In just two days, early 3DS adopters will have the chance to download 10 free NES games from the eShop with an additional 10 Game Boy Advance titles to follow later in the year. We announced the Japanese Ambassador titles earlier, and now Nintendo has published the North American list as well. No surprises here; in fact, the selection is completely unchanged. For the record, that's:
- Super Mario Bros.
- The Legend of Zelda
- Ice Climber
- Balloon Fight
- Donkey Kong Jr.
- Wrecking Crew
- NES Open Tournament Golf
- Yoshi
- Metroid
- Zelda II: The Adventure of Link
Which games are you looking forward to downloading?
[source nintendo.com]
Comments 166
Yeah, I expected this from the comments in the other article about NoA's Twitter account. Still, I'd have rather had Super Mario Brothers 3 or Punch-Out!! or what have you...
But, it's free, so I'm good with it.
P.S. (in response to the question at the bottom of the article) Can't I download all of them? 'Cause if so, then I am.
YESS!!!!! BAM BELIEVE ME THIS IS A MIRICLE!!!! ZELDA II!!!!!!! faints
im getting ALL of them, duh.
I guess we can expect Europe to be the same.
Meh...
It's at this moment I realize I somehow don't actually own a copy of the original Metroid in any form. Well, that won't last long.
Overall a pretty cool list. Can't wait to see the GBA titles.
they should have given us kid icarus because of the upcoming kid icarus.
@Milkman-123 Word!
Now please hurry up with the Restore Point update so I could play those hard Zelda titles.
@Milkman-123 Oh yeah! I forgot about that! That would have been awesome!
Only 4 of these games are worth actually paying money. See Nintendo's strategy here?
@hatty475 And which four would those be?
Ice Climber, Wrecking crew, Golf and Balloon fight are Meh.
The rest will do I guess.
All of them seem to be pretty good. Can't complain about free games!!! these will keep me busy till the new professor layton comes out.....
Super Mario Bros, Metroid, Zelda and Zelda 2 are the only ones I want.
Nintendo of Europe will probably announce our games in November or something. Maybe we'll have the Ambassador Tool by then!
@SuperLink SMB, Metroid, Zelda and Zelda 2.
Ugh. I hate golfing games. I'm happy for the rest of them, though.
@SuperLink Only Mario Bros, Metroid and Zelda 1/2 would be worth paying for. The other 6 are laughable. Give away what you can't sell, seems like a good enough idea.
I hope there's a good reason Super Mario Bros. 3 isn't there.
And with a good reason I mean I'm hoping they're gonna make it to a 3D Classic.
@Project-L You're gonna need those on Zelda 2
This is a good list, I would alter it slightly, other than NES Open I will download them all. Wait, this means will get 2 copies of Metroid.
@19robb19
yupp, i hope so too.
KInda weird not seeing mario 2/3, maybe they're holding out on that for a 3d classics remake?
Europe's the same as well from what EuroGamer said
I'm really exited for the Zelda games and Metroid. Plus, it's all free. Thanks, Nintendo!
I'll take the lot!!
sweet I like the list, besides I dont have about half of them on my wii, so ill play them on the Go
YOSHI!
M. Bison: "YES! YES!"
Just like I already said in the other thread...
I'll happily take all of them. What I'm most excited for is Super Mario Bros. - The original will always be the best. (with 3 and World), and The Legend of Zelda and Zelda II. I have never played the original LoZ's so I guess I'm in for a treat, eh?
Ice Climber doesn't look too bad.. Balloon Fight as well. Wrecking Crew looks AWESOME!
I really like this list and I'm so glad we are getting these 10 free games in a couple of days. AMBASSADORS UNITE!
Eh, would've replaced Metroid with a Zero Mission release on GBA and putting in Punch-Out!! in its place, but I'm fine with the rest.
I'll download all of them, have a 8gb card so i have all the space. Can't wait till the first
Great ones, if you ask me. I'm excited about Balloon Fight on the go...definitely one of Nintendo's best early games. (Though I guess this disqualifies it as an eventual 3D classic. That much is a shame...)
Average NL rating for these games: 6.4 (or 6, if you want to round it even)
Considering I would have never bought any of these, getting them for free is like... Winning a free lottery ticket, only to win another free lottery ticket, only to win another free... ...in the end it's just a bunch of nothing. (For me anyways. I'm well aware these are great games for others...)
Don't see myself playing too much Golf or Yoshi. 8 quality games makes me very happy.
I'm soo exited for SMB, Zelda, Metroid, and Ice Climbers. The rest (Including Zelda II) are meh.
This is terrible I don't want any of these, and the ones I did want I already bought. I was hoping for atleast Punch-out, Kid Icarus, or Super Mario 3.
@everyone
look closer at the question. it says 'which games are you looking forward to buying?' not 'which games are you going to get?'
why dont some like zelda 2 is it unfairly hard or just hard?
Glad it's confirmed!
@daznsaz
i wouldnt know, since i wasnt born in the 8-bit era, but according to hardcore fans online, its apparently hard as sh*t. i guess we'll have to find out.
@daznaz It is probably the most difficult Zelda. Dont let that stop you from playing it. With the save states, you can just cheap-shot through the game xD
As for the choices, I love them all except Yoshi.
I would have prefered Kid Icarus and Punch Out over some of these other games. Yoshi, Wrecking Crew, Ice Climber and Donkey Kong Jr. aren't that good...
Plus, I'd prefer Zero Mission over the original Metroid, since Zero Mission actually had the original Metroid on it.
Glad to know I'm not the only person who thinks Balloon Fight is great - the 'Balloon Trip' music is really memorable too. I hope it is playing at the correct speed though, and that we dont get '50Hz' style emulations in Europe.
@daznsaz
i read that when you die in a temple in zelda II, you have to walk ALL the way to the temples from zelda's corpse.im glad we have a save feature XDXD lol, im so stupid
Golf isn't too exciting as I already own a DSi golf game and Lets Golf 3D but the rest of them I might play. I actually don't own Zelda II in any working form anymore so that's nice. A few of them like Ice Climbers, Balloon Fight, and Wrecking Crew I've never played and would never have bought but as they are free I'll give them a try. Maybe I'll end up liking them. Also I've never played the original Metroid so now I have an excuse.
Still disappointed that Kid Icarus isn't one of the games. Otherwise I look forward to the Europe announcement and the games themself.
@42 i was playing in 8bit but on sega systems so missed it @43 will definately be getting it.guessing it was pain because you had to start from scratch each time
Not bad, but not great either. The only one's I'm looking forward too are Super Mario Bros., Wrecking Crew and Balloon Fight.
I'm looking forward to having these available on my 3DS. A nice collection.
;A; Oh my god. <3
@cheetahman91 You're not looking forward to Zelda? I or II?
I really want to know what the GBA games are.
The European games were already announced.
http://gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=160135
@49 Well, startting from the beggining isnt that bad, considering the overworld isnt that big. you can walk every single pixel in under 10 minutes (minus monster encounters). The boggest pain inn the game are the bosses. They are immensly difficult, except for dark link. If you stand in the corner, he cant hit you. whcih is sad, because in OoT, he was the hardest miniboss
YES!
started zelda games with oot64 played all since that.looking forward to getting the free zeldas also been playing links awakening not far off finished.
all right i was hoping for aol (not my favorite zelda game but a good game) really ill probally get all of these.
I only own 3 of those games- 2 with very limited access and Balloon Fight and Ice Climber, where I may be missing certain cards to scan on the e-reader.
Whatever. It's freaking free, and I finally get to try Wrecking Crew
Well, beggars can't be choosers. I'm looking forward to playing them.
I'm fine with all those but Wrecking Crew. I dread it based on reputation alone. Although, it's awesome we're also getting Zelda II with it, so I'll forgive it and give Wrecking Crew a fair shot. Who knows? I might like it.
All are fun titles. I am another who actually ENJOYED playing Balloon Fight back in the day. My brother and I would have a fun time trying to knock each other out of the sky. All are worth a download, especially for free.
Man, I would die for a 3D Classics Balloon Fight
I was hoping Punch Out would've made it. Still a cool list though yezzir!!
For people who don't want to look at nintendolifes 10 review pages seperately, these the scores:
Super mario Bros: 9/10
Legend of zelda 8/10
Wrecking crew : 8/10
Zelda 2: 7/10
NES open tournament golf : 7/10
Baloon fight 6/10
Metroid 6/10
Ice climbers 5/10
Yoshi 4/10
Donkey kong jr 4/10
Several absolute turds here then. It gets even worse when the Multiplayer modes in some of them which were highlighted as pluses won't work for now on the 3DS
There's no way I'm complaining, though I will say it would of been awesome to have Punch-Out!!, Kirby's Adventure, and Kid Icarus in place of some of the worse-sounding titles.
Will we be getting Four Swords on Thursday as well?
i've read a few complaints about nintendo including wrecking, yoshi and DKjr. but i really think those games are great choices because they represent quite well what games were back in the day, not everything was as innovative as metroid or zelda but arcade type puzzles are the spine of the videogame industry.
Good list. I imagine more (though not free) NES games will be available at a later date. Either way, looking forward to these on Thursday!
On Nintendos homepage, it shows how to download them & I think the games will be separated for 1 a week.
Search up "3ds ambassador program" and click the 1st one
@73
thnx :D
Pretty sure the GBA games will make up for this lineup for most disappointed people
I have a 32 GB SD card to fill up so I guess I'll download 'em all.
Roll on the GBA line-up! All these NES games are games I've played before/never wanted to play in the first place, so it's not exciting at all ... but that GBA line-up is totally different personally.
@milkman-123
Yes, I emulated the game and I use the state saves like crazy to try and survive it, STILL can't finish it though, the game is ridiculous, though I am looking forward to playing it with actual controls instead of a keyboard (made playing Majora's Mask easier when I got it on VC instead of Project 64), also, I love this list, kinda 'meh' about the golf game but I'll get it anyway
http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/3ds/en_na/3dsambassador.jsp?menu=games&submenu=ctr-ht-amb-download-games
:D
@superlink: No way. I hate the original Zelda. As for the sequel, I guess I'm kinda interested in it.
@78
im gonna get 'em all. i never know if i'll like 'em!
Well they are free, but Im not really interrested in any of those
Somewhat disappointed this means no SMB DX for GB VC? Kid Icarus? How about a curveball like Doki Doki Panic or Earthbound? MM5? Glory of Hercules? Anything but Yoshi.
I am suprised at no Kid Icarus. Seems very odd. Some fluff there. Some gold. Couple of games I already have on my Wii VC or GBA but what the hell, thanks.
But why did people think Super Mario Bros 2 or 3 would be on there? Surely if they were to give those games away, they'd give us the superior GBA versions with SNES graphics and save features [they were known as Super Mario Advance and Super Mario Advance 4]?
Didn't know there were so many fans of Kid Icarus...
Absolutely loved Zelda 2 when it came out. I played it through more times then any other games. I guess you could say I made speedruns on Zelda 2 before the word speedrun was even invented. With me being 14 bqck then or something.
Never played Wrecking Crew, Yoshi and Golf, so I will be very happy to give them a try. And I remember Donkey Kong Jr. from the arcades. it's just about highscore, but I guess a game like that will be really nice to play on the go.
I loved all the other games as a kid and some (SuMari, Z1, Metroid esp.) I still love today.
Not sure about Ice Climber, played it some time ago and it really felt outdated. I'll give it ago anyways...
And all that stuff's for free? Great job, Nintendo!
No NES Duck Tales, nnnnooooo!!! Curse you Nintendo, Capcom and Disney!!!
Clap Clap great!
@87
why the f--- do you want duck tales?>
Looks good. I'm so glad Metroid is included.
87. sykotek 30 Aug 2011, 15:55 PDT
No NES Duck Tales, nnnnooooo!!! Curse you Nintendo, Capcom and Disney!!!
I am shocked that DuckTales wasn't included
I have a question: How does the 3DS's battery hold up when playing Virtual Console games? Is it the standard 3-5 hours when playing 3DS software or is it longer because of older graphics needing less power (e.g. DS games give you 5-8 hours)?
The US list looks pretty good. Yoshi's not bad, but I would have preferred Dr. Mario (yet, I figured it wouldn't be on the list because a version is already available on DSiWare. Call it "Nintendonomics").
question, we get a total of 20 games yes? 10 nes AND 10 gba?
This is a good list for me. Who doesn't like The original SMB? Its a classic and a masterpiece. I've never played Zelda 1/2 or the original Metroid for more than 30 seconds so I'm very excited for those because of what everyone says about them. I own Yoshi and Balloon Fighter on Wii VC already so I like those well enough and its nice to have them portable. I've never played Ice Climber, Donkey Kong JR, Wrecking Crew, and Golf either so those are nice and i'm looking forward to trying them. So yeah, pretty good list. I kind of would rather have Punch-out, Mario 2/3, or Kirby rather than a couple of these. I kind of find the lack of Kid Icarus weird. I thought the pending release of Uprising guaranteed that game a spot. Oh well free is free. Thanks Nintendo Now about those GBA games...
@Ryon: Yes, these NES games are out this Thursday and the 10 GBA games (of which we only know of 5) will be out before the end of the year.
Ill take it. Anyone else play Battle of Olympus, man I wis that would have at least came to Wii VC
Again, as I have said:
PEOPLE ARE STILL COMPLAINING ABOUT FREE GAMES?!?
32 gig card = 250,000 blocks... hahah they better fill me up
!!
What I get from reading this posts some games are widely accepted (SMB, Zelda, Metroid) and other dividing opinions (Balloon Fight, Ice Climber), but I think we all agree the Golf one is garbage. I know they are free games, but dont forget we are getting this as an apology to loyal gamers for droping the price, so I think that gives us every right to complain.
Those games better not come out ONE WEEK AT A TIME!.
(ahem)...If that's the case, then I am going to destroy everything...that's right...everything.
I like the choices for all the games, but I think they should've replaced Yoshi with Kid Icarus
@99: I don't think that "NES Open Tournament Golf" game is garbage. I think it is the best Golf game on the NES. Maybe you people mistake it with Nintendo's other, earlier NES golf game that was simply called "Golf".
Okay choices, but, again, the inclusion of Golf in the batch is questionable at best IMO.
So does Europe get the same line-up as everyone else and when do tbey become available, I think Thursday?
@102: didnt mistook it, maybe its my paradigma that 99% people finds golf really boring. Seems a missed slot for SMB3, Kirby, Punch-out, Cluclu, Kid Icarus, Dr Mario... hck even Tennis!
So here's a question, how long is this going to last? Can I not download these and just save them for other time
YES!!!! Zelda 2, SMB, Zelda, DK Jr, Metroid, Ice Climber my youth!
For the bitter ppl who have commented, Ice Climber ROCKS!
Face it Nintendo not goin to give out the good games for free. When they do come out we will have to pay for them in the eshop. Nintendo know what they wanting to be free games or not. Wish but we can't change them, my guess is take them or leave it!
96. zionich 30 Aug 2011, 16:19 PDT
Ill take it. Anyone else play Battle of Olympus, man I wis that would have at least came to Wii VC
Funny you should mention Battle of Olympus, I recently got the NES Gme Pak and playing it on my NES now. Cool game, would be a good a game for the VC but Brøderbund is defunct so I don't know who "owns" there games (Deadly Towers. The Guardian Legend, Legacy of the Wizard, etc.). Spelunker came out though on the VC so I suppose there is a chance.
Eh. I'm getting all of them just because they're free. Even though Yoshi got a 4...
But really I'm just glad Metroid appeared on the list. That's enough to shut me up. Can't wait to download Fusion!
P.S. I wrote this comment whilst listening to Metroid Metal. Escape, to be exact.
@Ryno: The Guardian Legend is a Compile game so the company who put Zanac (also a Compile game) on the VC could put The Guardian Legend on the VC. As for Legacy of the Wizard, that one's a Falcom game so they could put that one on. Not sure about Deadly Towers though.
We're all complaining about the golf game but I just checked NL's score for it and it got a 7/10. Maybe it'll be decent.
Todaty's value of the whole bundle might be around 1€ if any, if Nintendo's intention was to compensate, better they think what to do with the other 99.
yes zelda super mario bros awesome
writing this on my 3ds
Awesome. I am so happy for Metroid and Zelda II. I am surprised at how many people are so "meh" about FREE games...can't please everybody, i guess.
Getting about 6 games of this list. Super Mario Bros., both Zelda's, Wrecking Crew, Metroid, Ice Climbers, and either NES Open or Ballon Flight.
@SuperLink - This games WON'T come out one at a time. you can download them all at once.
@marsgreekgod I hope that you're right ...for everyone's sake >:3
UK will probably get 10 versions of the controller settings/setup ROM, right?
I didn't buy a 3DS to play Mario and Zelda games.
I'm passing on all of them.
@LordJumpMad You are seriously the best fake troll ever.
@LordJumpMad jou might as well get them, after all they are free!
Punch Out!! will make a terrific 3D Classics title!
Personally, I'm excited. I haven't played most of these games, and I'm getting them for free
@people_saying_that_they_will_only_get_some_of_the_games:
Technically, the games will be on your list of "already bought" games, so you will get them all.
I'm perfectly happy with the line-up of games that we are getting. I have no reason to complain anyway considering that I am one of the "lucky" ambassadors.
Meh titles
My only dissappointment here is not seeing Kid Icarus. Wish they would remove Zelda 2 and place him there instead. I probably haven't played half those games so they will be new to me.
@93 Thomas: We're not getting Dr. Mario for the same reason we're not getting Mario Bros. Both of those game are included in the GBA set.
Golf? Seriously? No Kid Icarus or Punch Out, or even SMB 2 or 3? Nintendo really doesn't get it...
@130: Um, free. Free. They get it. Free games. Enough said
131 well said. and i'll try them all, if i don't like one after i play it i'll delete it.
Actually just so we can maybe end the wave of complaints
The game was actually called "Mike Tyson's punch out" They'd have to change the game, and I don't know what Nintendo's rights are on that game. First party only folks.
I'll be downloading all of them. Because we get coins for them at ClubNintendo
@133: Nintendo already changed it. They took out Mike Tyson and replaced him with Mr. Dream. It is currently available on the Wii Virtual Console:
http://vc.nintendolife.com/games/nes/punch_out_featuring_mr_dream
Looks like I'm skipping this week's VC update as always...Zelda 1 is the only NES game I actually still care about in 2011 and I already own 4 other copies of it.
I'll only be excited when I hear NES and GBA games that are available to the general public, not just the ambassadors. Not that these are the most exciting NES games ever invented. But some classics that tweak nostalgia nerves.
Now...does anyone recall the silver tuna of all retro games: Astro Boy: the Omega Factor
@131: Technically this arent free games, its a lot of 20 games intended to be worth the extra 80 USD (most) early 3DS adopters paid only 5 months ago (even worse, the extra 2,500 MXN I paid on March 28 at a mexican legit retailer), which is why people like me complain.
@137: Quoting from Chicken Brutus "It's a matter of understanding that, at the time, you paid full price, and thought it was a good enough deal at the time in order to do so. You didn't expect you'd be getting free games, and now you're getting free games."
Technically they are free games. You did not pay for them. You only paid for the system itself.
I have never played:
So, this is a great lineup for me
YAY! I've never played a Metroid game! w0oT!
None of these games I would pay to download for 3DS. Either I have them on my Wii already or I don't want to pay for them. However, getting them for free means I can enjoy them without feeling bad that they are duplicates or bad/simple/dated games.
@lz20XX
But people also expected the system to be better supported. Several months in and the only real standout title for the system is a port of a decade old game. Having a system drop in price so quickly is almost completely unheard of as well.
Yes, people thought the original price point was good enough at the time, but Nintendo also completely failed to market and support the system properly. I'm not saying I agree with them, but "ambassadors" are well within their rights to feel ripped off and nobody should be telling them otherwise.
I like that they put Super Mario, LOL, too bad they can't put duck hunt.
@lz20XX: Would you agree if I say "indirectly paid" or "relatively free"? I think your statement is correct but incomplete, we didnt expect 32% price drop within 5 months. Plus apologizes, compensations &/or acknowledgements (like this games) are not given for free, usually you experience hardships (early huge price cut) as a reason for getting them (payment).
meh. its free so i get what i can get but i was hoping for cooler games. these are so standard fare.
YAY Wrecking Crew!!!
Haven't played eight of these games so looking forward to it.
These the most:
Legend of Zelda
Metroid
Legend of Zelda 2
The others might not occupy my time as much, but I hope to be surprised anyway.
For the record, I'm happy with the games we're getting, I'm sure I'll enjoy playing through them a lot, especially Zelda 1 and 2.
However, I don't think it makes up for the mistakes Nintendo have made with the 3DS and while I blame myself for buying the system early, this is certainly not reassurance that the same thing isn't going to happen again with the Wii U, so in that sense it is a bit of a failure
Again, I think people are well within their rights to be complaining and I don't think their points should simply be met with "stop whining". That doesn't deflect their argument and is just immature. The bottom line is that Nintendo are in a very bad position now and a few free NES games does little to help.
and in related news NOE stated that they would be doing something soon. probably.
Never played a Metroid game before and now they're giving me the first one for free . That's a very good way to introduce me to the series. Bet Nintendo was like: "What, you still haven't played Metroid even though it's on the VC!? Dammit, we'll MAKE you play Metroid, like it or not!!!"
>I hope there's a good reason Super Mario Bros. 3 isn't there.
Erm, because it was a SNES game not NES?!!
@KitBliss No, it wasn't.
@Olaf-symbiote: I by myself got into Metroid about 1,5 years ago when playing Metroid Fusion. I had played original Metroid as a child but didn't like it that much (and it was too had for me). I'd say that if you don't like Metroid after testing NES Metroid, don't forget to try other Metroid games, they're better and also have a map which helps a lot. (Metroid 2 didn't maybe have a map, I haven't played it yet).
i own all the 10 games exept nes open golf so this is no big deal to me, but i still wish they included punch out, mario 3 and 2 and kid icarus, i dont care for DKjr, yoshi, metroid or wrecking crew.
@Nintendo Thank you.
Oh yeah, that was SMWorld on the SNES not SMB3. Doh!
@TheDarkness: Which of the five confirmed GBA games has Dr. Mario? I looked and I couldn't find it.
Thanks, by the way.
Still wondering about the Virtual Console's effect on battery life. Is it the same as any other 3DS software (3-5 hours) or longer because of less graphical and programming power required to run these games? I looked and couldn't find an answer either.
You can download them now, in NA.
Take these rather weird steps to enjoy:
http://nintendoeverything.com/72735/
Nothing in Europe though :/
@7A: I suppose "indirectly paid" is more appropriate for the situation. While that may be true, I hardly consider this a "hardship". At least they're offering something for compensation.
Also, who suggested Dr. Mario? There's a DSiware Dr. Mario that you can download
@Thomas: WarioWare Inc. has a somewhat disturbing version of Dr. Mario as an unlockable.
Meh...sucks that we still can't download these in Europe yet. Guess I'll just have to console myself by playing some more Xenoblade Chronicles on the Wii until they are available here
They're probably saving Kid Icarus and Punch-Out for 3D Classics. That's what I would do, anyway. especially seeing how the latter two 3D Classics have been considered overall meh.
I will download all of them, even Golf (if for no other reason than to collect my 200 nintendo points). Golf is going in the recycle bin, though. wRecking Crew and Ice climber play pretty slowly and certainly have a bit of learning curve to them. I am surprized they did not include NES Donkey Kong. Oh well. I've got an NES repro cart of the superior version, with the Cement level included. hopefully, they have save states with unlimited resumes, so I can abuse Metroid a bit. I never played any of the NES or SNES Zeldas, but am thoroughly enjoying LOZ:OOT 3DS, so I will give the NES Zeldas a try. I've no longer got an excuse not to now.
Man, to everyone saying only Mario/Zelda/Metroid are the ones worth playing... yes, those are amazing games. But explore the lesser-known titles a bit, yeah? Try an underappreciated game, maybe you'll like it. Play outside the box sometimes. If nothing else, to see how far we've come.
I'd say they didn't include Donkey Kong because the GB VC game kinda contains the first four levels too.
Hey guys no complaints but can somebody just answer me this:
Where can we, the people of the UK, confirm that we are an ambassador..?
I would very much appreciate an answer
@TwilightTV: That sounds like it could be fun! Thank you.
@CiaranKimberlin: As far as I know, the online confirmation tool for 3DS Ambassadors is not yet released in Europe. Keep checking NoE website, or just follow the steps on this article, if the games appear on your 3DS, then you are an Ambassador for sure. Hope this helps.
I have a question and I am really sorry if it was answered already. I know that we now have those NES games available and i know that there will be gameboy and (virtual games?) too later. My question is: Do you think that we will choose from more games that will come or the limit 20 games is actually set for all games that will be available now and in future.
@Justaguest: Nintendo picks the 10 NES and 10 GBA games we get for the Ambassador Program. I think that's all we're getting so far. Leastways, nothing else has been announced (to my knowledge).
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