@JaxonH As the saying goes, "There are economic decisions, and then there are economic decisions," and this port of Skyward Sword says, "Breath of the Wild 2 won't be out for at least a year, so we need a 'new' Zelda game to maintain consumer interest in the franchise. What can we do that's fast and cheap?" and, well, here's your answer. I have no opinion about whether this was a good decision or a bad one, I'm just telling it like it is.
It's okay to admit it. Nobody will ask you ti turn in your Nintendo fan club card. Trust me, I still have mine.
@JaxonH "To be fair, it's actually not lazy in the slightest."
Look at it this way: Touching up the graphics and implementing new controls is certainly lazier relative to creating a new game from scratch, and it's done for purely economical reasons, because it gets a "new" game on the shelf at minimum expense. And I say that as someone who happily bought Mario Kart 8, Super Mario Bros U. Deluxe, Pikmin 3, Super Mario 3D All Stars, Super Mario 3D World, and will jump at the Metroid Prime collection (assuming the damn thing is ever released). I may get Skyward Sword at some point. I haven't decided yet.
@blindsquarel "It is no lazier than the Wii U ports and the Wii U Zelda games."
Alternatively, it's just as lazy. Look, I'm not bagging on Nintendo since I've bought several of their lazy ports myself, but let's at least tell it like it is.
Yes, the worst thing about Space Jam 2 is that the filmmakers may have misidentified a Game Boy as a Game Boy Color and not the fact that the movie stars a narcistic jackass.
@mereel "How many times have you seen a 3DS with a messed up circle pad?"
Personally? Never. That was with my whole family owning 3DS systems, and my three kids were very rough on them. My youngest daughter's was literally held together with tape, but the damn thing still worked.
Interesting how the first dude talks about how reliable the parts are and then gives himself an out by saying, "I mean, obviously every part will fail at some point..."
Just more "industry insider" BS. Some analyst or other insisted that the OLED Switch only cost $10 more to manufacture, and therefore Nintendo was gouging its customers by charging $50 more. Of course we all know how knowledgeable supposed "industry insiders" really are.
Right, and how many "industry insiders" promised us we would be basking in the glow of a Switch Pro right now? Seriously, how many times are you guys going to fall for this "insider" ruse?
Won't be getting an OLED Switch because I'm perfectly happy with the Switch I already have, but that Steam Deck is certainly tempting because it's actually a mini-PC that can be used for more than just gaming. Not to mention the unbeatable software library.
"The YouTuber also notes how their own drifting Joy-Con have been working fine for around two months now..."
And? I've had Joy Cons repaired by Nintendo that worked perfectly for over a year before exhibiting any problems. Two-months isn't nearly long enough to declare this a permanent solution.
$2000 for a digital watch that needs to be connected to a phone? Oof. That's pretty steep. I can sort of understand a precision built mechanical watch selling for that much, but not a digital watch.
Nintendo has only ever obliquely admitted that Joy Con stick drift even exists. At least in North America, they still repair Joy Cons for free. I think that's as close as they've ever come to a direct acknowledgement that it's a problem.
@Fifth313ment This isn't a "new" Switch, and it was never intended to be a "new" Switch. This is nothing more than the "old" Switch using some new components, primarily the screen, likely because previously used components are no longer available.
So if they have this cool, scalable game engine, why not make simply make an original racing game that is inspired by F-Zero? I don't understand these developers who seem to simply give up on an idea just because they can't get the rights to a certain IP.
@DeclanS98 Again, you're looking at averages, which is a flawed way to examine the issue because of the reasons that even the Forbes article you linked to previously clearly explains: women, on average, make different career decisions than men which leads to women, on average, being paid less than men.
@Phostachio And what if enough people of the "preferred" demographic haven't applied, but you have a stack of resumes from qualified applicants with the "wrong" diversity? And now your boss is breathing down your neck to fill the position? Do you hire the less qualified person because he or she meets the quota, or do you hire the qualified person? This is the flaw inherent to any "diversity" requirement.
@DeclanS98 You might be able to link to articles, but you apparently can't read them. From the link you provided:
"First, women may be more likely to look for jobs that possess certain non-wage benefits. To illustrate, imagine a woman working part-time, finding a job with a shorter commute, asking to telecommute or requesting flexible scheduling. These non-monetary benefits could be useful to a worker who has greater family responsibility obligations. These responsibilities tend to fall more on women, especially mothers.
"Second, due to career disruptions, women have greater difficulty building up their experience and other soft factors. Motherhood is a common source of disruption, where a new mother will be more likely to take time off from work than a new father. Or because they took parental leave, a mother is less likely to strive for a promotion (or less likely to get it)."
So just like I said, women, on average, make different career decisions than men when leads to women, on average, earning different wages than men.
@Phostachio Inclusion and diversity is a good thing. It's forced inclusion and diversity — but let's call it what it really is: bigotry — that is a bad thing.
@DeclanS98 I believe what the data shows: that traditionally, women, on average, make different career choices than men which means that, on average, they tend to earn less than men. The data also shows that when all other things are equal, women, in fact, earn the same as men.
More simply, a woman who takes a decade off to raise a family can not expect to simply reenter the workforce and earn the same pay as a man who spent the last 10-years on the job advancing his career.
@JaneBear '...internal biases ... Such as skipping a candidate because their name sounds “too ethnic”, or skipping over a candidate because of where they come from, or if I saw them with a same-sex partner on social media, saw that they were a certain religion, etc.'
That's not internal bias, that's straight-up bigotry, and you should be fired if you are not capable of making a hiring decision without prejudice. The problem is that hiring quotas don't solve the problem, they simply tell you which candidates you are obligated to discriminate against based on arbitrary "diversity" criteria. It is, in effect, sanctioned bigotry.
@DeclanS98 If a hiring manager is passing up the best candidate for a job simply because he doesn't want to hire a woman or black person then that's a problem, and the solution, of course, is to fire the hiring manager. Implementing a policy that forces hiring managers to pass up qualified candidates in favor of less qualified candidates who meet arbitrary social criteria is stupid.
@JaneBear As I said, if it was simply a matter of hiring the best candidates for the job, then "diversity" and "inclusivity" would never even be a consideration. The only reason those policies exist is to force a company to consider less qualified candidates who happen to be the "right" demographic.
@nessisonett Arguing over the supposed pay gap based on averages is silly. Here in the US, while women, on average, are paid less than men, an individual woman with the same qualifications as a man will receive the same pay as her male counterpart. The reason averages don't tell the whole story is because women, on average, make different career decisions than men (for instance, choosing to leave the workforce for a decade to be a homemaker) which leads to wages, on average, being lower for women than for men. There's absolutely nothing sinister going on.
@Dogorilla "Where does the statement say they're going to hire unqualified people?"
That is the inevitable result of diversity policies. Suppose you have a position where nine men with excellent qualifications and one woman with a less than stellar resume submit applications. If the company doesn't have "enough" women on the payroll, then the unqualified woman will get the job instead of one of the much more qualified men.
@JaneBear If it was a matter of simply hiring the best person for the job, then we wouldn't need this "diversity quota" nonsense. Unfortunately, these kinds of policies force companies into making poor hiring decisions simply because the candidate has the "right" skin color, or the "right" genitals.
@DeclanS98 "Unqualified" means lacking the skills and experience necessary to do the job. I'm not sure why people think diversity quotas are a good thing, because you're essentially telling someone that they are incapable of succeeding on their own and need special treatment.
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Re: Random: That Zelda: Skyward Sword Bamboo-Slicing Minigame Is Easy Now
@JaxonH As the saying goes, "There are economic decisions, and then there are economic decisions," and this port of Skyward Sword says, "Breath of the Wild 2 won't be out for at least a year, so we need a 'new' Zelda game to maintain consumer interest in the franchise. What can we do that's fast and cheap?" and, well, here's your answer. I have no opinion about whether this was a good decision or a bad one, I'm just telling it like it is.
It's okay to admit it. Nobody will ask you ti turn in your Nintendo fan club card. Trust me, I still have mine.
Re: Techland Is Reportedly Bringing Dying Light: Platinum Edition To Switch This October
@huyi "your choice I guess"
Thank you for your permission.
Re: Techland Is Reportedly Bringing Dying Light: Platinum Edition To Switch This October
@huyi I'm not interested in other platforms.
Re: Techland Is Reportedly Bringing Dying Light: Platinum Edition To Switch This October
Complete game with DLC on a cart for $49.99? This sounds too good to be true.
Re: Random: That Zelda: Skyward Sword Bamboo-Slicing Minigame Is Easy Now
@JaxonH "To be fair, it's actually not lazy in the slightest."
Look at it this way: Touching up the graphics and implementing new controls is certainly lazier relative to creating a new game from scratch, and it's done for purely economical reasons, because it gets a "new" game on the shelf at minimum expense. And I say that as someone who happily bought Mario Kart 8, Super Mario Bros U. Deluxe, Pikmin 3, Super Mario 3D All Stars, Super Mario 3D World, and will jump at the Metroid Prime collection (assuming the damn thing is ever released). I may get Skyward Sword at some point. I haven't decided yet.
Re: Random: That Zelda: Skyward Sword Bamboo-Slicing Minigame Is Easy Now
@blindsquarel "It is no lazier than the Wii U ports and the Wii U Zelda games."
Alternatively, it's just as lazy. Look, I'm not bagging on Nintendo since I've bought several of their lazy ports myself, but let's at least tell it like it is.
Re: Random: That Zelda: Skyward Sword Bamboo-Slicing Minigame Is Easy Now
@blindsquarel To be fair, Skyward Sword actually is a lazy $60 Wii port. Doesn't mean it's not still a good game, but let's not deny the obvious.
Re: Random: The Internet Is Dunking On Space Jam 2's Game Boy Cameo
Yes, the worst thing about Space Jam 2 is that the filmmakers may have misidentified a Game Boy as a Game Boy Color and not the fact that the movie stars a narcistic jackass.
Re: Valve's Steam Deck Hopes To Avoid Switch's Joy-Con Drift Issues
@mereel "How many times have you seen a 3DS with a messed up circle pad?"
Personally? Never. That was with my whole family owning 3DS systems, and my three kids were very rough on them. My youngest daughter's was literally held together with tape, but the damn thing still worked.
Re: Valve's Steam Deck Hopes To Avoid Switch's Joy-Con Drift Issues
Interesting how the first dude talks about how reliable the parts are and then gives himself an out by saying, "I mean, obviously every part will fail at some point..."
Re: Nintendo Denies Claims It'll Make Increased Profits With Switch OLED, "No Plans" For Other Model
Just more "industry insider" BS. Some analyst or other insisted that the OLED Switch only cost $10 more to manufacture, and therefore Nintendo was gouging its customers by charging $50 more. Of course we all know how knowledgeable supposed "industry insiders" really are.
Re: Rumour: Metroid Prime Trilogy For Switch Ready To Go, According To Industry Insider
Right, and how many "industry insiders" promised us we would be basking in the glow of a Switch Pro right now? Seriously, how many times are you guys going to fall for this "insider" ruse?
Re: Poll: So, Will You Be Getting A Switch OLED Or Valve Steam Deck?
Won't be getting an OLED Switch because I'm perfectly happy with the Switch I already have, but that Steam Deck is certainly tempting because it's actually a mini-PC that can be used for more than just gaming. Not to mention the unbeatable software library.
Re: Valve's Steam Deck Might Be The Closest We'll Get To A Switch Pro In 2021
Biggest advantage of the Steam Deck over the Switch is the unbeatable software library. Thousands of games "out of the box".
Biggest disadvantage: no Animal Crossing.
Re: Samurai Warriors 5 Demo Allows Players To Transfer Progress To The Full Game
Might be worth getting if it runs better than Age of Calamity.
Re: Octopath Traveler Teases Sequel On Its Third Anniversary
I'd love to see a game in the style of Octopath Traveler that offers real choices and consequences and a branching storyline.
Re: Someone Thinks They've Resolved Nintendo's Joy-Con Drift Problem With An Incredibly Simple Fix
"The YouTuber also notes how their own drifting Joy-Con have been working fine for around two months now..."
And? I've had Joy Cons repaired by Nintendo that worked perfectly for over a year before exhibiting any problems. Two-months isn't nearly long enough to declare this a permanent solution.
Re: Tag Heuer Reveals Limited-Edition $2,150 Super Mario Watch
@lovesushi It's unlikely that a "smart watch" will increase in value.
Re: Tag Heuer Reveals Limited-Edition $2,150 Super Mario Watch
$2000 for a digital watch that needs to be connected to a phone? Oof. That's pretty steep. I can sort of understand a precision built mechanical watch selling for that much, but not a digital watch.
Re: Nintendo Won't Say Whether Switch OLED Joy-Con Fixes Drift, So Don't Count On It
Nintendo has only ever obliquely admitted that Joy Con stick drift even exists. At least in North America, they still repair Joy Cons for free. I think that's as close as they've ever come to a direct acknowledgement that it's a problem.
Re: EA Is Bringing Another Legacy Edition Of FIFA To Nintendo Switch
Legacy edition? More like "EA bringing another slap to the face to Switch owners."
Re: Nintendo Switch OLED Model - Price, Release Date, Specs, Battery Life And Where It Leaves 'Switch Pro'
@Fifth313ment This isn't a "new" Switch, and it was never intended to be a "new" Switch. This is nothing more than the "old" Switch using some new components, primarily the screen, likely because previously used components are no longer available.
Re: Among Us Has Been Localised Into Irish
@Splodge Then I guess Hollywood has lied to me.
Re: Nintendo Switch OLED Model - Price, Release Date, Specs, Battery Life And Where It Leaves 'Switch Pro'
"So What Happened To The Switch Pro, Then?"
Nothing happened to it. The Switch Pro has only ever existed in rumors. Why do some people have such a hard time understanding this?
Re: Among Us Has Been Localised Into Irish
Isn't Irish just English with an incomprehensible accent?
Re: Upcoming Gollum Game Gets New Trailer To Show Off Stealth-Parkour Gameplay
"Gollum is no traditional hero."
He's not a hero at all. He's a scoundrel.
Re: After Months Of 'Switch Pro' Rumours, Nintendo Officially Unveils The Nintendo Switch OLED Model
"The OLED Model also has a redesigned dock, which comes with a built-in LAN port so you can enjoy low-latency wireless gaming."
Um... are you guys sure you know what a LAN port is?
Re: Finally, Nintendo Officially Unveils The Switch OLED Model, The 'Switch Pro' We've Been Expecting
Switch Pro confirmed.
Re: Sonic The Hedgehog's Voice Actor Reassures Fans He's Here To Stay
"Oh, I'm glad to hear that," said no one.
Re: EarthBound YouTube Videos Keep Getting Flagged For Copyright By Sony
Flagging copyright violations for an album that is long out of print and effectively impossible to purchase is just stupid.
Re: Crysis Remastered Is Getting A Physical Version On Switch
If it's the full and patched game on a cartridge, then this may be worth getting.
Re: We Could Have Had A New "Ultra-Realistic" F-Zero On Switch, But Nintendo Turned It Down
So if they have this cool, scalable game engine, why not make simply make an original racing game that is inspired by F-Zero? I don't understand these developers who seem to simply give up on an idea just because they can't get the rights to a certain IP.
Re: Random: Behold The World's Cutest Nintendo Switch Cartridge Case
@tntswitchfan68
https://www.amazon.com/Butterfox-Switch-Nintendo-Storage-Holder/dp/B08D3HN81Z/ref=sr_1_13?dchild=1&keywords=butterfox&qid=1624980201&sr=8-13
Re: Random: Behold The World's Cutest Nintendo Switch Cartridge Case
Cute but impractical. I have a standard case around the same size that can hold 3x as many cartridges.
Re: Nintendo Underlines Its Commitment To Diversity And Inclusivity
@DeclanS98 Again, you're looking at averages, which is a flawed way to examine the issue because of the reasons that even the Forbes article you linked to previously clearly explains: women, on average, make different career decisions than men which leads to women, on average, being paid less than men.
Re: Nintendo Underlines Its Commitment To Diversity And Inclusivity
@Phostachio And what if enough people of the "preferred" demographic haven't applied, but you have a stack of resumes from qualified applicants with the "wrong" diversity? And now your boss is breathing down your neck to fill the position? Do you hire the less qualified person because he or she meets the quota, or do you hire the qualified person? This is the flaw inherent to any "diversity" requirement.
Re: Nintendo Underlines Its Commitment To Diversity And Inclusivity
@DeclanS98 You might be able to link to articles, but you apparently can't read them. From the link you provided:
"First, women may be more likely to look for jobs that possess certain non-wage benefits. To illustrate, imagine a woman working part-time, finding a job with a shorter commute, asking to telecommute or requesting flexible scheduling. These non-monetary benefits could be useful to a worker who has greater family responsibility obligations. These responsibilities tend to fall more on women, especially mothers.
"Second, due to career disruptions, women have greater difficulty building up their experience and other soft factors. Motherhood is a common source of disruption, where a new mother will be more likely to take time off from work than a new father. Or because they took parental leave, a mother is less likely to strive for a promotion (or less likely to get it)."
So just like I said, women, on average, make different career decisions than men when leads to women, on average, earning different wages than men.
Re: Nintendo Underlines Its Commitment To Diversity And Inclusivity
@DeclanS98 "The data, does not show that."
You need to familiarize yourself with the data.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-gender-pay-gap-is-a-complete-myth/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/karinagness/2016/04/12/dont-buy-into-the-gender-pay-gap-myth/?sh=7952b9f62596
Re: Nintendo Underlines Its Commitment To Diversity And Inclusivity
@Phostachio Inclusion and diversity is a good thing. It's forced inclusion and diversity — but let's call it what it really is: bigotry — that is a bad thing.
Re: Nintendo Underlines Its Commitment To Diversity And Inclusivity
@DeclanS98 I believe what the data shows: that traditionally, women, on average, make different career choices than men which means that, on average, they tend to earn less than men. The data also shows that when all other things are equal, women, in fact, earn the same as men.
More simply, a woman who takes a decade off to raise a family can not expect to simply reenter the workforce and earn the same pay as a man who spent the last 10-years on the job advancing his career.
Re: Nintendo Underlines Its Commitment To Diversity And Inclusivity
@JaneBear '...internal biases ... Such as skipping a candidate because their name sounds “too ethnic”, or skipping over a candidate because of where they come from, or if I saw them with a same-sex partner on social media, saw that they were a certain religion, etc.'
That's not internal bias, that's straight-up bigotry, and you should be fired if you are not capable of making a hiring decision without prejudice. The problem is that hiring quotas don't solve the problem, they simply tell you which candidates you are obligated to discriminate against based on arbitrary "diversity" criteria. It is, in effect, sanctioned bigotry.
Re: Nintendo Underlines Its Commitment To Diversity And Inclusivity
@DeclanS98 If a hiring manager is passing up the best candidate for a job simply because he doesn't want to hire a woman or black person then that's a problem, and the solution, of course, is to fire the hiring manager. Implementing a policy that forces hiring managers to pass up qualified candidates in favor of less qualified candidates who meet arbitrary social criteria is stupid.
That’s as simple as I can make it.
Re: Nintendo Underlines Its Commitment To Diversity And Inclusivity
@Diogmites I find it interesting how people who demand tolerance seem to be the least tolerant of contrary facts and opinions.
Re: Nintendo Underlines Its Commitment To Diversity And Inclusivity
@JaneBear As I said, if it was simply a matter of hiring the best candidates for the job, then "diversity" and "inclusivity" would never even be a consideration. The only reason those policies exist is to force a company to consider less qualified candidates who happen to be the "right" demographic.
Re: Nintendo Underlines Its Commitment To Diversity And Inclusivity
@nessisonett Arguing over the supposed pay gap based on averages is silly. Here in the US, while women, on average, are paid less than men, an individual woman with the same qualifications as a man will receive the same pay as her male counterpart. The reason averages don't tell the whole story is because women, on average, make different career decisions than men (for instance, choosing to leave the workforce for a decade to be a homemaker) which leads to wages, on average, being lower for women than for men. There's absolutely nothing sinister going on.
Re: Nintendo Underlines Its Commitment To Diversity And Inclusivity
@DeclanS98 "Women being allowed into the workplace is more important than a 8/10 review turning into a 7/10..."
I find it interesting that you take it as a given that diversity policies will lead to a lower quality product, which would seem to support my point.
Re: Nintendo Underlines Its Commitment To Diversity And Inclusivity
@Dogorilla "Where does the statement say they're going to hire unqualified people?"
That is the inevitable result of diversity policies. Suppose you have a position where nine men with excellent qualifications and one woman with a less than stellar resume submit applications. If the company doesn't have "enough" women on the payroll, then the unqualified woman will get the job instead of one of the much more qualified men.
Re: Nintendo Underlines Its Commitment To Diversity And Inclusivity
@JaneBear If it was a matter of simply hiring the best person for the job, then we wouldn't need this "diversity quota" nonsense. Unfortunately, these kinds of policies force companies into making poor hiring decisions simply because the candidate has the "right" skin color, or the "right" genitals.
Re: Nintendo Underlines Its Commitment To Diversity And Inclusivity
@DeclanS98 "Unqualified" means lacking the skills and experience necessary to do the job. I'm not sure why people think diversity quotas are a good thing, because you're essentially telling someone that they are incapable of succeeding on their own and need special treatment.
Re: Nintendo Underlines Its Commitment To Diversity And Inclusivity
@DeclanS98 So you think an unqualified person should be hired simply because he or she checks off the "right" boxes on the diversity bingo card?