Nintendo's latest Switch revision is just a few months away from release, with the super-slick Switch OLED model hitting stores on 8th October. Naturally, it'd make sense for gaming fans to hope that the new revision includes updated Joy-Con controllers that finally do away with the issue of Joy-Con drift, but Nintendo's latest statement on the matter isn't giving us any confidence.
As we already know, Nintendo has previously announced that the Joy-Con included with the Switch OLED "are the same as the controllers currently available." While this could be interpreted as being exactly the same, including everything from their appearance right down to the bothersome parts that cause Joy-Con drift, it could also mean that the new controllers are simply compatible with all of the same things, working in the same way as the originals but with potentially improved parts doing the job.
Perhaps that second possibility was just wishful thinking, though. The Verge – along with Wired, Polygon, GameSpot – put the question of Joy-Con drift to Nintendo; the question-dodging nature of the company's response probably tells us everything we need to know.
"Joy-Con controller configuration and functionality did not change with Nintendo Switch (OLED model)."
The Verge says, "...We didn’t ask about the 'configuration' or 'functionality,' as it was pretty clear from Nintendo’s announcement that the controllers would be the same. We asked about drift, which is a reliability issue. And when we asked the question again in an even clearer fashion, we were referred to the same statement."
It's not exactly a surprise, but if you were hoping for the new Joy-Con to finally be a bit more reliable, we're afraid you're probably out of luck.
Thanks to AJ1 for the tip!
[source theverge.com]
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They don't say it because it doesn't. Just get yourself a pro controller for all joystick intensive games and you're all set.
No chance they changed anything, the whole console is about minimal upgrades.
Average life span before Joy-Con drift is 2 years. I’ve got through two sets of Joy-Con with my second pair now beginning to suffer. The amount of people this affects is pretty horrible. My Switch doesn’t get massive amounts of action, either. They should really be doing something to rectify this …
I have had my Switch for less than a year and I now have upwards drift on the stick, which has utterly ruined my Pokémon Snap play. FFS Nintendo.
@SigmaNoire But doesn't playing with the Pro Controller imply that you are planning to play the games on TV which somewhat defeats the point of the OLED model since that one only improves the handheld-mode experience over the original model but not the docked-mode
Nintendo wouldn't mention if the new ones fixed Joy-Con drift even if they did because it would result in Nintendo losing the lawsuits about Joy-Con drift.
The problem will either be fixed silently or not at all.
It looks like sales from joycons are going to keep decreasing, as more and more people realize that they aren't worth it for 2 years, and that's if you're lucky to have good joycons.
In other news, the sky is blue.
@Diddy64 actually they sell a whole lot of them and thats why they are not going to fix them
@ottospooky Happened to me in first 6 months, so I guess I am especially "lucky".
@mariomaster96 I understand that, I would love to play in Handheld mode more, but playing Smash or a lot of other action games just wrecks the Joycons so fast. Imo because the handheld mode relies on Joycons, OLED model is just not worth it, even as a new buy.
I got about a year of drift free joy cons. That was without a pro controller for docked play. Now I just use compressed air and contact cleaner to keep my joy cons just about working. Still wouldn't use them for anything needing accuracy.
Doug Bowser sir, if you are listening, if you make a new revised Joy-Con without drift I promise to buy 10 copies of Mario Golf. Make this happen please Mr. Doug and I promise you won't be disappointed.
Lol.
Nintendo: They’re the same.
Games journalists: Are they different.
Nintendo: They’re the same.
Games journalists: But different, yeah?
Nintendo: They’re the same.
Games Journalists: Cool. We’ll go run an article and say that they could be different, because… that’d be nice.
I hope all of this bites them in the ass in a huge way someday. A company shouldn't be able to get away with this. It's criminal, and I don't need to wait for a judge's ruling to know that for sure.
That is unfortunate, but not at all surprising. They already announced that the new system uses the exact same Joy-Con controllers; why would they somehow, magically, be any different? Oh yeah... they wouldn't. I am not too concerned because I almost exclusively use Pro controllers, and to this day I have never experienced drift on any of my own Joy-Cons.
Not suprised, but my Joy Cons don't drift anyway.
-however my Pro Controller does. Nobody is safe!
I hate drift! 4 joy-cons got drift of which 2 were hardly used which was surprising. They were fixed by nintendo with new parts and returned......within a few weeks 2 got drift again so I gave up.
However, my Pro-controller and Hori-split pads have been my go to and saved my Switch experience. Such a shame the Joy-cons are a heap of trash
Got my pre-order in today.
I know for sure I got drift on my first set of controllers, my second set is having moments, but its not fully there yet.
Seems like an odd setup, must be making more money from selling joy-cons than losing in lawsuits.
@Crockin Most are probably from kids parents, but even that won't last forever. Edit: I think that they purposely didn't fix it to evade losing the joycon lawsuit.
I like my switch but I am seriously getting fed up with the attitude of Nintendo on the two following issues :
@Kimyonaakuma Sage? What does being wise has to do with this?
Nintendo won’t admit Drift is an issue. By saying that they addressed it with this new configuration would be to admit there is a problem.
Nintendo will never publicly acknowledge whether JoyCon drift has been fixed or not as long as they are being litigated over it.
If they fix it without a full ‘Joycon 2.0’ design then it’s them admitting that it actually is a problem that requires fixing meaning they’re probably liable to fix any and all joycon.t we’ll probably have to ignore it until ‘Joycon Pro’ is released which completely redesigned innards
Joy cons are the worst main controller for any console I've ever owned and by far the least reliable and this is dating back to the Atari 2600 in the 80's which is still working perfectly
Full disclaimer, I never owned an Atari 5200 so I'm not including that 😛
No comment = 100% No fix then...
@Diddy64 if they stopped selling with momentum, they would have fixed it. The lawsuits are nothing for them, they are built into the losses. If they could make them even cheaper, they would. I promise you joycons will continue to be easy money as long they are releasing must have software.
Edit: plus they would never say there was something wrong with their product even without the lawsuits
My launch day Switch had joycon drift straight out of the box.
The console itself had cracks in the casing and the SD card reader didn't work.
This was a BRAND NEW console that has numerous faults.
I was without my console for 2 months while they fixed it.
I only got to play my new console for 2 weeks before I found all these faults and Nintendo has done nothing to convince me they have fixed any of these issues with this new version.
Until they do they're not getting another cent out of me in regards to hardware.
I Got the hori split pad pro, does the trick just fine, I can't play games with a single joy con, but who wants to do that?
I also can't take the joy cons out and place my switch far away, but somehow I think I will survive.
I gave up on joy cons long ago, and I don't really want to spend money on them again.
Nintendo, I love you, but you really ought to be ashamed of yourselves on this one. It's fine if you have trouble fixing it I guess, but do not dance around the issue like it's not even there.
Respect -10
@Crockin Oh well, I'll just continue using third party joycons.
Imagine Nintendo doing anything but the bare minimum... That'll be a blissful day...
I don't even use joy con much at all and yet I have had them drift at points, though fixable. And my launch pair had the SL/SR buttons and the rail LEDs break too, so that's fun.
Wish the handheld experience was more comfortable. Then I would actually play it more, instead of doing so maybe once a week if that for like half and hour. Somehow I find the DS and 3ds way more comfortable to play despite them being literal rectangles and super small? Then with switch it never feels right to hold the thing handheld. I don't understand how they managed that.
Nintendo - great software, terrible everything else
This is not something unique to Nintendo, it's worth pointing out, it's also not unique to Joy-Cons. This happens to Pro-Controllers too and the PS5 Dualsense has widespread issues with it as well. It's the components and their complexity and it's unlikely to be fixed any time soon.
The only solution they can do really, all of them, is to build controllers that allow for easy removal and replacement of certain components such as the analogue sticks. It's relatively easy to do with a JoyCon, but they could make it a lot easier and they don't sell official replacements. But even then that opens up a whole bunch more potential other breaking points.
It's easier for all of them to offer the repair service and settle a few lawsuits here and there. Especially as most will not think much of it and just buy a new controller.
Maybe Nintendo should adapt to the analog stick technology of the past, but that would require bulking up the Joy Cons. They'd have to redesign it from the ground up, remove the flawed components, and design a new frame to hold it all in. I mean, why do you think people prefer Microsoft and Sony over Nintendo, to a point of buying Xbox Series X/S and PlayStation 5 from Scalpers? I mean, Xbox has Halo and Rare, while PlayStation has Ratchet & Clank!
Still had no issues with any of my joycons, even on the launch model, I still feel this is a dust issue more than anything else, I always put my spare joycons away in a draw when not in use, and always put my Switch in a carry case charging with a usb-c cable, then dock or play as needed.
@noobish_hat,
How do you explain the fact this does not affect everybody.
@Ogbert,
Yes gamers demand more precision from the joysticks, then complain they are more sensitive to external factors etc, you just have to be more careful with your tech.
The way Nintendo answer and their attitude is shameless, pedant, disrespectful and rude. That second answer...
But hey, they don't have time for fixing faulty hardware, they are too busy marketing their next full-priced port. I hope that they lose all the joy-con lawsuits.
@SigmaNoire You could probably buy a Spilt Pad Pro in order to play Switch portably without worrying about drifting Joy Con, or this controller if you want to use controllers both portably and on the TV could work too.
I have a theory that drift is more likely to present after a period of inactivity, just going by personal experience. Anyone else found this?
Once again.....new model ≠ new controllers. I don't think it'll ever coincide with the release of a newer console model.
@noobish_hat not exclusive to Japan at all. Apple is WAY worse about this. Literally any big company that sells consumer goods is doing this. Drug companies, construction, food, auto parts, software, electronics, on and on.
Nintendo has only ever obliquely admitted that Joy Con stick drift even exists. At least in North America, they still repair Joy Cons for free. I think that's as close as they've ever come to a direct acknowledgement that it's a problem.
@Archius9 without a radical redesign, any redesign, whether in this generation or next, could still be used against Nintendo to prove that they understand what the issue is and how to fix it.
At least one of the suits against Nintendo alleges that they have engineered and released a product with a faulty design that they know has an elevated failure rate compared to previously released designs, so that they can profiteer from their customer base having to purchase multiple sets of Joycon in order to continue using Switch as a handheld device.
The ratio of Joycon to Switch console sales will prove particularly damning, when they are forced to provide the information in court. They won't be able to deny that they knew there was a problem. Their greed has clearly got the better of them this generation, and if they don't pay heavily for it in forced recompense, they certainly will in reputation.
The left joycon on my switch was unusable due to drifting. I applied some wd-40 on it and now it’s working perfectly. Give it a try
@johnvboy following your logic, I've become increasing convinced that robberies and muggings don't exist. Also murders. I've never had any of these things happen to me, or anyone I know, so people are probably just inventing stories for attention. Also, I do look where I'm going when I'm out and about, so if those things do happen to others, they're likely just being careless. Or maybe dust has something to do with it, I don't know.
I still have my launch Switch Joy-Con, and they still don't drift.
But the point is, this is normal wear and tear for these controllers. They have a set amount of times you can use them. And how you handle them. For instance if you don't regurally clean your sticks, dust will get into them which decreases their lifespan.
This is perfectly normal and absolutely not illegal.
Also this problem exists on any controller with analog sticks. PS4, PS5, XBOX ONE, XBOX Series, Switch, Switch Pro Controller, etc. It all comes how well you treat your hardware.
how do we get governments involved in investigations? Nintendo is selling a known defective product thats at least as common as the xbox 360's RROD, if not more common.
Nintendo always fixes mine for free so I don’t have a whole lot to complain about. I will say it is stupid to not fix the issue.
@sanderev "Also this problem exists on any controller with analog sticks. PS4, PS5, XBOX ONE, XBOX Series, Switch, Switch Pro Controller, etc. It all comes how well you treat your hardware."
Utter nonsense. I've owned nearly every modern console. I've only ever had drift with joycon. And not even just one pair. It happened to both pairs of joycon that I own. Never with any other controller on any other console
@Mando44646 I've never had the problem on Switch. But I did have the problem with a DS4 controller.
@sanderev joycons are substantially less durable that any other controller out there(not including third party). Sure it's normal wear and tear, but it's wear and tear on something that is intentionally flimsy. I don't think an argument could be made that the PS/Xbox controllers are just as bad. That would be false.
@Crockin Except that it's 100% true.
(Dutch) https://www.xboxnederland.nl/techniek/microsoft-aangeklaagd-voor-stick-drift-problemen/
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/the-xbox-controller-drift-lawsuit-has-entered-arbitration/
https://www.ign.com/wikis/playstation-5/What_To_Do_If_Your_PS5_DualSense_Controller_Drifts
and that's only after 1 second of googling.
It happens. ON. EVERY. CONTROLLER.
The drift has even made Animal Crossing annoying to play. I haven't been playing as much ever since, and I refuse to buy new ones, because a controller should last way longer than that. I've never had one break on me. Even my controllers from 20-25 years are still in a good condition.
@sanderev yea sure it happens on some. It happens on every joycon eventually
Edit: and that's not to say it won't get worse for PS/Xbox, just that the joycons is substantially cheaper quality and overall deteriorates at a way faster rate
@Mando44646 Nintendo are already facing action from government bodies, certainly France, who have deemed selling a product with the failure rate of Joycon illegal there, and also at least one EU wide consumer protection body.
I might be blessed, two years and zero drift.
But, well, I do clean all my controllers with a can of compressed air and a drip of IPA at least once per month, also I do avoid leaving them outside catching dust, always kept them on a case or a drawer when not in use.
@Crockin My 4-year old Joy-Con still don't drift. And every other Nintendo Switch related controller I bought since (including the Switch lite) also don't. So no, it doesn't happen on every controller.
Except for normal wear and tear. Which is, like I said, absolutely normal. Because that happens to every. single. controller. All these analog sticks use the same technique, and most of them even use the same parts.
You should take great care of your expensive devices. Clean them regurally. Don't throw them in a bag or closet. Don't crush them. Use a carry case created by Nintendo. And you will have great working controllers until at least the time to replace the system with the next generation.
@Grumblevolcano Exactly, as long as litigation is ongoing, Nintendo will not even recognize the existence of this "issue".
@sanderev I promise you it is not normal wear and tear, it is absolutely 1000% part of the business model. You're right about other controllers getting this drift issue, but this is not a wear and tear problem.
@WhiteUmbrella,
It personal experience, not suggesting for a second people are making their issues up, but as to how actually widespread the issue is, we just do not know, no real data to suggest either way.
It 100% won't fix the driftcons. I love the Switch and Nintendo hardware in general but this is poor from the Big N.
@Crockin They are basically like switches on a mechenical keyboard, rated for millions of usages. Because, yeah, if you have moving parts they will wear down over time.
And yeah, unless Nintendo starts using solid state analog "sticks" (capacitive touchpads like on the Steam controller) you will always have some form of this issue.
Becuase it's a normal law of physics. It's the same as having to replace the tires on your car.
Drifting and other faults like: SR/SL not working, only syncing in pair (not separated), poor signal.
Every game controller with an analog stick will drift if it gets dirty enough. Nintendo never did anything about my N64, Gamecube, Wii or Wii U sticks drifting so why would they bother with switch?
It's real easy to fix yourself even if only a temporary solution with some contact cleaner spray under the plastic flaps beneath the sticks. If it starts drifting again give it another squirt. Real easy. No repair needed unless it's beyond simple drifting issues.
Nintendo is not going to spend the time or money to revise the controllers when they could just get you to buy another one or send your screwy one to them for a replacement.
After four years, my right joy-con started drifting hard to the right. I was fighting it constantly. This article helped: https://www.nintendolife.com/guides/how-to-fix-a-drifting-nintendo-switch-joy-con-analog-stick. Recalibrating helps short-term but I just got some contact cleaner.
It doesn’t b/c Nintendo is focusing on ghosting things with this model. Another fail..
luckly me and my counsin Switch still have not sufered the dreadful Joy-Con Drift(me for my extended battery Switch and my counsin for his launch day Switch).
very disapointing, Nintendo still don't regonize the dreadful Joy-Con Drift, many of my friends Switch suffered the dreadful Joy-Con Drift, this is not the Nintendo know for the quality/durabilty of it hardware.
In other words why would we fix the drift when we have suckers like you who will just buy more when it has drift issues
@SigmaNoire considering the Lawsuit is still going on, I can imagine Nintendo is not allowed nor would be dum for them to announce or denounce any fault on the drift by reporting they fixed them or not.
Looks like my personal boycott of Nintendo products continues.
I mean, if Exxon can get away with publicly admitting lobbying against climate change legislation and manufacturing "forever chemicals" which are wrecking our bodies and the environment, and all that with pretty much no consequences or even push back, well, then I guess no, Nintendo isn't likely to solve this slimy situation anytime soon.
@fbnaulin I have all most of the issues, but those issues are limited mostly to few joycon.
It uses the same joycons, so no, there's no reason to believe a fix exists in the new version if it hasn't been fixed already.
At least unlike Lite, you can replace them and/or repair them easily.
Nintendo won't answer this question outright because they are in the middle of a class-action lawsuit. If they change something and own up to the issue they will lose the lawsuit.
Why are we STILL making assumptions here? They don't say it because they don't want to acknowledge drift. At all. This does NOT give us an answer of whether drift has been fixed or not. It gives us the answer of whether Nintendo is poorly trying to hide a huge ***** up on their part.
@Bleubird2 I was writing just that when I saw you already did. Nintendo won't say "sure, we fixed it", even if they did, because that would be publicly admitting their joy cons had issues, and would lose them probably millions. Understandable. Evil, deceitful, capitalist corporate everyday business, yes, but understandable.
Why bother upgrading the handheld experience with a nicer screen when the sticky ruin playing in handheld.
Lol, what do you expect...
Take care of your Joy-Cons. Take care of your Joy-Cons. Take care of your Joy-Cons. Take care of your Joy-Cons.
Also, Nintendo, Change companies! If their sticks are that fragile, then change companies!
@johnvboy I did the same thing, I never treated them poorly. I play almost exclusively docked with a usb remote and they drift anyway. I’ve cleaned them with canned air, tried recalibration, everything. I promise you it’s not the customer’s fault that joycons are unreliable. The reason it doesn’t affect everyone is because there’s not really quality control imo. Also Nintendo is a company targeting kids and their remotes should be able to hold up to wear and tear better than this anyway. If I, a very careful 18 year old get drift, how is a young kid supposed to take good enough care of their remotes? It’s really sad and ruins the experience for tons of people.
@Zeldafan79 the cleaner doesn’t fix the fundamental problem which is the flimsy contacts.
@kducky11,
Sorry to hear you are having issues, so far none at all, as to how many people affects out of the 85 million or so users is unclear.
@Crockin I have a ***** og xbox controller that was kept in a dusty ass box for years that still functions to this day. No drift at all. This is a Switch (and ps5) specific problem for sure.
@johnvboy enough for a class action lawsuit lmao. Demand better products my guy. 🤷♀️ We don’t have to accept these bad controllers or defend them. There’s clear evidence that they’re not reliable. I use the Hori split pad whenever I decide to use the switch in handheld and it’s great.
@kducky11,
Again this can still be a small number relative to the total amount of units out there, and not defending them, just stated I had no issues myself.
And perception of reliability is very much based on ones own personal experiences, you get a joycon that drifts and think the quality is poor, you have no issues and feel the quality is fine.
@johnvboy ''The problem does not affect me therefore it does not exist, other people just don't take of their joycon and blow up this issue''.
That is how you sound.
Joy-con drift is a real issue. Not every product (Nintendo) a company launched is perfect and that is okay. Nothing is perfect. However acknowledging a fault is also normal to do and has been done by many other companies. Look at car companies for example.
I still have a perfectly working gamecube controller that is 16 year old, why do joy-con drift within half a year of usage?
Because it's a faulty product.
Even the president of nintendo of japan said sorry for joy-con drift.
There are many customer associations all over the world that started an investigation regarding this, they don't do it for fun.
Stop being a die-hard Nintendo fan that says that people are at fault.
@SigmaNoire That’s what I did, so I agree that buying a Pro Controller is the best option... it’s just lame that Nintendo is essentially selling the controller separately this generation. (An expensive one at that... basically making the Switch a 370 dollar system.)
@BrintaPap,
Never said that, just stated we have no idea how widespread the actual problem is, and i have had no issues myself, so not sure why you are taking that tone.
And as for the Nintendo president saying sorry, this is pure PR.
@kducky11 he does have a point in that this drift problem is not exclusive to the switch. It is happening to PS4, ps5, xboxsx as well. But I don't buy that it only happens if you treat your controllers poorly. Ive gotten drift on two sets of joycons less in than 6 months and they literally just sit in the little cabinet where my switch is. There hardly any dust, and I don't even play absurd hours. It's a defect they knew about, and didn't fix it because it is more profitable to sell replacements and eat the losses on repairs/lawsuits etc. There's no way that Sony and Microsoft aren't taking notes. If Nintendo could make these even flimsier, they would in a heartbeat
Why is it so hard for them to just change the damn sticks so they don't drift?
The joycons are stupid anyways. They sacrifice the playability of the entire system for those rare opportunities where 2 people are actually going play with a single joycon set. Who actually does that? What sane person wouldn’t just buy a 2nd controller? I’m sure there’s a few kids out there who’s parents won’t buy them a 2nd controller and they’re forced to split the JoyCons, but that number has to be incredibly low and the rest of us suffer for it. Joycons suck.
Then its a no buy from me.
@The-Chosen-one Same, but... probably not much of a surprise. Only people with too much money and would waste it on an incremental upgrade like this. I could even see spending the 350 on a new Switch (talking current owners here), if it were 1080p, but... I think they purposely held back on that for their real next gen console. This expensive OLED Model is here just to take advantage of the crazy demand for Switches... demand that can’t last TOO much longer. (Couple years tops?) Then we’ll get something that will be worth buying for us current owners.
@Crockin @Shambo I've had the issue crop up. I have replaced my joy-con shells, so I just replace the analog sticks when needed. Fortunately they are cheap, but it is annoying that I have to do it at all.
@ottospooky took my switch lite half a year before it started up.
Imagine buying Ford Pinto with a joycon drift. It would probably have the same repercussions cause you might accidentaly kill someone throwing the switch out the window. FIX THIS, NINTENDO!
@Justaguest the Ford Pinto was basically the joycon drift of cars, and those used to explode
@Mando44646 yes your purely anecdotal evidence of not getting it on your other controller means it must be untrue!
Here's the thing, it also depends what kind of games you're playing, how much you're playing and how long you play for each session. The PS5 has widely reported issues of it just months after release and the majority of those cases were people who were playing longer sessions of intense shooters like CoD. There's are studies into it, there are videos literally breaking down the controllers and components showing the issues and what happens. The components are plastic, they wear, they grind, tiny bits break off and get stuck or result in precision loss and drift.
This is definitely disappointing, but with only a 50 dollar price difference it was definitely expected. Still disappointing though!
@Ogbert both sets of joycon failing within the first year of ownership could be coincidental, you're right that its anecdotal. But the pro controller and the Lite have not generated the same problem for me.
Additionally, this has been widely reported online and there is a class action lawsuit because its so severe. I promise you that a global corporation does not need you to defend it. They'll be just fine on their own.
Unless you're going to also claim that the RROD issue with the 360 was overblown and poor Microsoft was suffering from just some bad PR, you don't have a leg to stand on here.
The joycon failure rate is unacceptable. You know it, I know it, and Nintendo knows it. Thats why NoA replaces them for free (like the RROD, again). If it was a normal failure rate, they'd charge to fix anything out of warranty.
As far as PS5 goes, I do think there may be a similar controller issue there, but I have not yet seen enough evidence to say one way or the other. Which is disappointing, considering how reliable the PS4 controller was and how reliable the Xbox controllers are
@ok1
EB Games here in Australia.
I was so excited when I got it but after I had to wait while they fixed it I lost a lot of my excitement sadly
Really opened my eyes and not in a good way unfortunately.
@noobish_hat,
Never downplayed anything,you keep putting words into my mouth, all I said was I had no issues, and we do not know how many people this issue affects, if people want to take this the wrong way, then that's up to them. And not sure where I suggested anybody had said that joycon drift affects everybody either.
It's tough to debate with you when you suggest people are somehow stupid, for just offering a counter opinion to all this, or do you just want an echo chamber of mutual discontent.
@SigmaNoire The pro controller gets drift so this is bad advice. In fact for US-based players this advice is even worse because the pro controller doesn’t have the same warranty coverage. If I get drift with a joy con I can send it in free of charge to Nintendo and they’ll send me a replacement in a little over a week. I’ve done it twice now. There is nothing comparable for a pro controller
@carlos82
With a d-pad on the left joycon and without the drift, I think they would have been great
I could have told u this, before they responded.
@Firesnake they would definitely be hugely improved with those changes, for me personally they are just too small and I don't find them that comfortable to hold
4 sets of joycon, no drift. None of my friends report any either. Day 1 set included.
But the internet would have you believe this is a chronic problem affecting everyone within weeks of purchasing.
@SigmaNoire But the pro controller has a garbage D pad so they both have issues :/
@Heavyarms55
The advent of social media and the success of the Switch itself will amplify any issue that people may face.
For example, if 0.5% of Switch owners are experiencing JoyCon drift, that's ~450,000 people affected, which is a lot. Many of them will post about their issues on Facebook/Twitter/Tik Tok/etc and the news will spread like wildfire online.
My household owns three switches. All three were year-one models. All three are stored and completely clean and stored responsibility. One was sent back to Nintendo and repaired, only to drift again. One pair I repaired. The contact wears out causing the drift. My problem with the pair I repaired is that the replacement pair lasted even less and felt cheap. The third pair is also drifting. I've just stopped buying new games and my play time has drastically went down. I've been gaming since the early 80's. I've never experienced a controller failing like this before.
@westman98 I've seen no proof that it's even 0.5% of people.
I know it's an issue that exists. I don't doubt that and I've seen the proof of it existing. But every bit of evidence I've seen and what I've read online does not suggest anything remotely as close to the frequency people suggest. NL and many users on this site would lead you to believe that it's a universal problem and every joycon is doomed within days of opening the box. They claim it's a chronic problem that's inevitable. Frankly, I don't buy it.
Is this going to be bigger than what happened with the Xbox 360? Maybe, but unless Nintendo is willing to take a HUGE loss on their stock price AND take a whole lot of money out of their piggy bank, Nintendo is going to continue whistling past the graveyard until the next REAL model of Switch comes out.
@Heavyarms55
To be clear, that 0.5% number is just a hypothetical.
The point is that a tiny percentage of a huge number is still a lot.
@Gwynbleidd @UltraZelda64
Is the replacement mechanism for the Dualsenses out yet? One of mine has horrific drift on the right stick.
They are never gonna fix the drift. I’ve given up on them giving a damn about the systems hardware flaws.
@mariomaster96 you can use the Pro Controller while playing in handheld mode too
@SuperWeird I have to admit you do kind of have a point. Not sure how applicable it is in this case though since if they weren't detachable (like the Lite model), drifting sticks would mean having to replace the whole system instead of just essentially one half of a full controller. I wish someone would make a high-quality left Joy-con with a D-pad that also has vibration and its own rechargeable battery though. I'm tempted to by the one one that resembles a GameCube controller just for its left Joy-con.
@Nin10dood Sorry dude, looks like you got one that was dropped.
@SigmaNoire The analogs on the pro controller are very sensitive, and the buttons travel distance is too big.
If you have a defective product and you fixed it, you would be proud to say you fixed it. If you keep silent...well..we all know what it means.
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No Switch Lite with OLED screen?
Because that system would benefit the most due to the handheld only nature of the system.
@Col_e_h
Probably.
The worst thing is when I called Nintendo Australia they accused me of dropping it!
I was insulted.
I'm a collector.
I take extreme care of all my consoles and games, I still have my launch day N64, PS1 etc, all still work perfectly and they had the audacity to accuse me.
I subsequently lost my ****.
Thankfully I had taken pics of me opening my new Switch as I always do with new consoles (weird, I know 😁) so I had photographic proof that it was like that our of the box.
They have lost a lot of respect from me that's for sure
Sorry for the rant, it still angers me today, clearly.
🙄
I'm positive that if they were fixed that would of been mentioned, or would that then be an admission of guilt? They're the same joycons...so
Nintendo doesn't deserve its fans.
all you need to do is go on amazon and buy the binbok joycons trust you will never go and use the normal joycons again..
Had joy con drift on both my sets of joy cons but thankfully some electronic switch cleaner seems to have fully cleared it up!
Considering this revision almost changes nothing and improves almost nothing, what did anyone expect? This isn't worth anything to anyone who is an existing Switch owner. Especially, at a $50 price increase.
@sik187 o.O I do like the look of those binbok joycons. I may have to try them out when my drift gets bad.
Sounds like another good reason to NOT buy the Switch OLED!
Don't be a NintendSHEEP! Have the sense to show them that you're sick of their crap.
@BrintaPap How about you stop demanding people to stop being Nintendo fans just because you have a vendetta against Nintendo? Because that's how you're sounding right now.
Nintendo has fixed the drift on the joycon, just discreetly. Newer joycons aren’t very susceptible to drift.
I'm really looking forward to the day that Nintendo proves all the haters here wrong, which will come very soon. People who insult Nintendo and its fans just for liking the company make me sick, and those people will get their karma.
@Donkey-Kong-Fan vendetta? Nah, just annoyed by their vague responses towards (directly asked) questions even though I understand why. Saying that they fixed will result in a loss in court.
And I also get annoyed by people saying “taKe CaRe oF YouR jOy-CoN”
@johnvboy my comment probably came off strong but that was not my intention so sorry for that. Non-verbal communication can be a pain. I thought that you were denying drift first.
@BrintaPap,
No problems at all, I can understand people are upset over all this, it's I have just not experienced it myself, and of course there is an issue, hope you get yours sorted.
They've got the perfect chance this time. 'nuff said.
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