I don't really care about the portable aspect, but I really want that portable local multiplayer, having things like Mario Kart, fighting games, or something like Worms would be fantastic, portable gaming is not about playing solo anymore, is about sharing it with someone else, that's why Switch would really benefit a lot from having mainstream games like FIFA and Madden.
@Yorumi Mmmmh... I think you're seeing this in a very wrong way. Amiibos are like a season pass for several Nintendo games, and they give you a piece of plastic (the amiibo itself) too! That for me, is a great deal.
Most DLCs or Season Pass from other games are at the same price as an Amiibo figurine and give the same content or even worse, content that works with only 1 game btw.
Amiibos have something that no other DLC or extra content for any other game has, you can use it in different devices with different accounts, meaning you don't need to own all of them if you have friends with different amiibos, and what's even better, you can sell them.
@Gorlokk don’t get your hopes too high about the textures, remember Pokémon is one of the biggest games ever, it needs A LOT more than 721 models, each one of them with their own animations, textures and more, they really need to sacrifice something to pull that off.
The bigger the Pokedex, the more impressive these games become, I still don’t know how they manage to make a game that looks better than a GCN game (Take a lot at Greninja’s model and compare it with any other pokémon model from Gale of Darkness) in such a small card with all those assets, all that information, that huge world, sound, music, and more and make it run in a 3DS, it’s amazing what they do.
@Damo Come on... Every gaming site puts at least 1 or 2 articles a week about NX, Nintendo has only “censored" one article, ONE, the article even stated that Nintendo requested the site to remove that specific question, there’s a HUGE difference between censoring and requesting. You’re overreacting.
There’s a very obvious reason as to why they requested to remove that part of the interview, the Nintendo guy messed up, badly, he was assuming things by saying “Nintendo will MOST LIKELY hold a Nintendo Direct”, that could have led to a lot of misinformation, they need to keep things as clear as possible, leaving no room for "assuming guys".
I thought NintendoLife didn’t write tabloid articles.
The only thing that happened here, is that that Nintendo of Canada representative screwed up in a big way, they don’t want to misinform people, that’s all, otherwise all press would be censored by now, you said it yourself, ”... it's abundantly clear that the gaming media is gagging to learn more about the mysterious console.” And how do we know the media if eager to learn more? Because they haven’t censored any other person, they only have censored their own stupidity, geez, calm down.
I kinda see what Nintendo is doing here, I bet NX will be revealed next week, here’s why.
Not just Guillemot has said that Nintendo learned a lot from Wii U, but also did Iwata, Miyamoto, Reggie and Kimishima, they all said that the Wii U message was wrong, and people didn’t have time to try it out for themselves, “But they missed E3 and TGS and blablabla”, there’s a bigger, better event to showcase the NX, the New York Comic Con, that is the perfect place to let regular people, not just press, to try out the console, that’s what they need, attract all sorts of people to NX, not just the “hardcore” audience.
If they miss Comic Con, then you can say they haven’t learned anything but I think I’m onto something here.
@ThanosReXXX In this economy, in this market, there’s no room for a third “Real” console, specially with so many competitors out there, it’s not just Microsoft or Sony, PC manufacturers are also in, I can buy an Alienware console that completely destroys PS and XBox in terms of power, catalogue, and price.
Nintendo NEEDS to be different this time if they want to succeed, they need to appeal to a bigger market, no just the shrinking console crowd.
I think they’ll at least try to be on par with PS4 in terms of power, the PS4 slim is 299, so a 299 Nintendo console should do.
What I think they could do to mask the price of the console, if the hybrid thing is true, is to make the portable part as powerful as a Wii U (or more), that way they could sell it for 200$, while the dock, that powers up the portable part to be superior to PS4 but not powerful as Pro, could be sold for 100$ as a separate component, or buy both things in a single package for 250$.
@Ralek85 Nintendo has been pretty innovative with almost all of their consoles, with a few exceptions, those being Gamecube, Wii U (It’s just a bigger version of a DS in a poorly executed way), Gameboy Color, Gameboy Advance and 3DS.
Nes introduce the controller.
SNES introduce an upgrade controller with more buttons, R & L being the most important of them all.
Virtual Boy, it was a nice try xD
N64 introduced the joystick, C buttons and a single button that helped Ocarina become what it is today, the Z button (You want a truly hard Zelda experience? Play without Z targeting).
Without Wii, motion controllers wouldn’t be as popular as they are (Every phone has a gyroscope for no reason at all).
Game & Watch, more a toy than a gaming console, but it was the first step.
Gameboy, the truly first portable gaming console. (Atari’s Lynx was superior but well, you know how it goes, it came a few months later than Gameboy, sorry Atari)
DS, dual screen and more important, the touch screen.
Yes, we had some of those things before, but they were poorly used or poorly developed, innovation does not equals invention, equals using something in a different way.
Every company is doing what they think is the right thing to do.
Microsoft is doing a "true next gen console” with Scorpio, while Sony is using his marketing powers to make people believe PS4 Pro is powerful, when it isn’t, the 4k is fake, it's just using rendering techniques to make games look prettier (they even said that during the conference masked with a lot of technicalities), PS4 Pro is an useless console with no real purpose whatsoever, it’ll have no exclusives, it’s expensive, and it ’s using outdate technology meaning it’ll last for 3 years (it’s a 400 dollar DSi or New Nintendo 3DS), meanwhile you can expect Scorpio to live at least for 8 years or so if it’s as powerful as a high end PC.
Nintendo, on the other hand, is the only company that is adapting to the current mobile era, they showed exactly that during the Apple Keynote, making it the strongest company of the three, they also understand how the gaming industry is currently working, in the past you could see announcements of games that would come out two years after their unveiling, now it’s not the case, most of the current games are announced 4-6 months before their release, people is impatient, as some have proven saying Nintendo is doomed if they do not announce NX soon, so an early October or late September reveal sounds about right, specially with TGS distracting people for a while.
Sony, as some experts have claimed, has a 78% chance of going bankrupt in the next 2 years, while Nintendo has 22%, and I’m pretty sure those numbers have increased and decreased respectively after yesterday’s announcements, Nintendo is doing the right thing as a company, some of us might not like it, or even understand it, but it’s the best thing to do nonetheless.
Mario Run looks pretty fun, and I was extremely surprised by that. The animation and the mechanics they added were pretty spot on and add a layer of depth to your usual runner game, and that competitive "gotta grab all coins" seems like a nice extra mode to play.
Mobile market is killing the console market, that’s not a fact, but it’s almost a fact, Sony has sold 40 million PS4s, Nintendo 13 million Wii U’s and Microsoft around 10 millions Xbox One (at least some sources claim that is the actual number), that’s 63 million consoles sold in 11 years (combining the life of all 3 consoles as to date), last generation in 9 years (3 years each console) sold almost 120 million consoles total with Wii, PS3 and 360... that’s twice the quantity, something is wrong in this generation, and that’s the increased popularity of mobile gaming.
As a company Nintendo can’t compete at all with mobile devices, everyone and their mothers have a smartphone, you can’t kill that it’s impossible, so they actually acknowledge that the only way to survive in the chaotic market is to adapt and join the enemy, so they are doing exactly that. How does that help us, the niche market? By expanding the brands and gaming to everyone increases the chance of people buying a dedicated gaming platform, just take a look at 3DS and Pokémon sales after the huge success of Pokémon Go.
If Nintendo manages to actually turn gaming, “REAL” gaming (RPG, complex open worlds, and that stuff), into a mainstream thing, we’ll be seeing the best gaming era ever. Imagine that every single person you know owns a dedicated gaming platform, the possibilities are endless, this are exciting and uncertain times indeed.
It also shocked me to see Miyamoto and Bill in big Apple stage, this could mean huge things for the “hardcore” gaming industry, Nintendo and Apple might join forces together and create the biggest and best gaming platform ever, or maybe something even better, I don’t know, this opens so much possibilities, it’s overwhelming.
Lol... Nintendo 3DS was a success, and still is. Nintendo made huge mistakes with Wii U, yes, but the company can’t take all the blame, they actually tried to do something for it, Wonderful 101, Bayonetta 2, Star Fox, Pikmin 3. You know what all those games have in common? All great games but didn’t sold well. Whose to blame there?
If Nintendo goes mobile, is what all we deserve for not supporting the company, as simple as that. But you know what, they won’t do that, we’ll get a new brand console... they still believe in their fans... Nintendo is really, really stubborn.
@Yorumi
Nintendo’s future is secured because of this decisions.
We’re gonna get Zelda BotW, a game that has took almost 7 years to develop, a game that might not even sell a million copies, we are also getting the most ambitious Pokémon game yet, if that is not pleasing their fans, I don’t what it is.
This generation we got so many games, and so many games that didn’t sold well, like Star Fox, the ones giving the back to Nintendo are their fans, but yet they’ll still gives us the, probably, best Zelda ever, even though no one is grateful of what Nintendo gave us this generation, Splatoon, Bayonetta 2, Wonderful 101, Smash for 3DS, great Pokémon games, Mario 3D World, Mario Kart 8, Fire Emblem and so much more.
Mario runner is a handicapped Mario... yes it is, and also Pokémon Go is handicapped (VERY handicapped) Pokémon game.
This is to create brand awareness, this is Nintendo making the industry bigger, something it desperately needs. Why all the melodrama, people really need to chill and learn to adapt, this is not the SNES era anymore, this is the Mobile era, deal with it.
First of all, a Nintendo Direct should be a must, we need magnificent beards, puppets, non-specific action figures, and Bill Trinen eating donuts, BUT, this should be showcased during a live event. Instead of having the usual live press conference, have the audience watch the Direct in a huge screen (Maybe with Reggie live with some opening and closing lines), this way everyone will be seeing the exact same thing at the exact same time with great production value, so, What’s the point of having a live event then? Simple, after the NDirect ends, people at the show could simply stand up and get ready to play what they just saw in the screen.
If NX has some sort of gimmick that needs to be played to understand, the Direct should close with “You’ll be able to try the console during this time at this locations”, with regular events here and there for people to try NX.
A Treehouse after the Direct could explain games and features even further to get the message right this time.
@ThanosReXXX The problem with those technologies is that they are far from being useful, they need a lot of development, even VR needs a lot of polish still, the price is also a problem, they aren’t cheap.
The problem I see with merged reality is that it still puts you in danger, you can still hit things that are not within the sight of the camera, it also can’t detect height levels, that’s a big issue. We need something like Sword Art Online VR, put your headset and sit somewhere else or just lie in your bed, that’s the only way I see VR working.
AR and Hololens are actually far more useful, is uses the room you’re in to play, it just puts some AR stuff here and there, you don’t necessarily need a dedicated space nor it puts you in danger since it is using the space you’re in, the problem is, you’re confined to a single room, if you get out of it, Hololens needs to recalculate EVERYTHING, destroying your experience.
This technologies look promising and amazing, but they need a lot of work still, the VR and AR race is putting things that aren’t ready to be in the market for us, the consumers, to test. Nintendo learnt a lot from Virtual Boy and 3DS, they’re not going to use experimental technology in one of their systems.
New technologies aside, Will using cartridges for games mean that they can put DLC right in the card instead of the console?
@rjejr You are just assuming those games were coming to Wii U, but as far as I can see, Pikmin was design with a 2D environment in mind and it looks pretty darn awful (let’s be honest, it looks graphically horrible compared to Mario Kart 7 or Smash), this Pikmin, Mario Sports, and all the new stuff look like easy/fast to make games.
To me, these are things to get rid of all the consoles they have in stock, simple but attractive games that will make some heads turn, you may say that it’s not needed, specially with a new Pokémon generation coming out around the same date as those other games, but Pikmin and Mario Sports fill a niche that Pokémon can’t, so they will attract a lot more people during the next few months. Also, the awful graphical quality of all the announced games made me think of something else, NX.
Again, those games I can assure were made in 6 months or less, that’s not a bad thing, great games not necessarily take years to make, but it seems like Nintendo is putting the real effort somewhere else. The question is, where? It’s obviously not Wii U, and the only game shown that looks like a bigger budget game was Ever Oasis, so, the only answer is NX. Nintendo is not taking Wii U’s games from it and giving them to 3DS, they are just focusing in something else, and trying to make a little more money out of the 3DS. Wii U, if you’re not waiting Paper Mario, is pretty much dead... actually is been dead for almost 8 months now.
This is why I hate Nintendo Fans, they really, really, never try something new.
Metroid Federation Force is JUST a spin-off and should be treated like it, people complaining and saying “This is not a Metroid I’m not gonna buy it” are acting like a spoiled kid. The game is definitely not a Metroidvania style game but that’s ok, Samus is not even the main character, so why complain? Because it says Prime in the title and is killing your nostalgia?
Federation Force is an experiment that tries to expand the Metroid universe (There’s more than Samus out there) into places we haven’t seen before, it was a nice try, it was far from being perfect, but a sequel would fix all the problems of this... wait for it... NEW franchise, but thank you Metroid “fans”, you killed the possibility of having more games based on the rich Metroid history.
I'll leave you with a question, Isn’t expanding the Metroid Universe and using it more often is something you actually wanted and even dreamed of? Well... ... ...
I still don’t get why Pokémon Go is a huge success amongst Pokémon fans. Why would I play a dumb-down version of the game where I can only catch 146 Pokémon, can’t IV train, can't breed, gyms are just overpowered things to keep you grinding, and with a extremely silly battle system? Probably I’ll never know.
Nah, pokémon go will never have the Pokémon of the latest gen. The Pokémon Company and Nintendo want more gamers and more attention, if you play Pokémon Go but not the Pokémon games, but you know someone that does or simply Google “Pokemon”, you’ll be seeing a lot of this new creatures you won’t be able to get, so you’ll end up buying a 3DS and a Pokémon game to please your collector needs.
Why everybody is so scared about a two year old chip? If you own a PS4 or Xbox One you’re using 6 year old technology... maybe 8 year old
Tegra X1 is nearly as capable as an Xbox One, AND Nintendo has always used custom chips for their consoles, this will make it nearly as powerful as a PS4. It also makes sense if they’re truly trying to aim for the casual market, pricing is important.
What I hope they do:
Announce NX as a portable powerful machine that will run Breath of the Wild even better than Wii U for a 250$ price.
They’ll show come crazy trailers with people playing in a café or restaurant, two guys with one console, "Who pays the bill?" Let’s decide it in a Smash game! (If the 2 controllers thing is true, is the selling gimmick, imagine people playing FIFA or things like that in an office or whatever, it will also make people’s heads turn for sure, remember Nintendo really likes the mouth to mouth publicity).
They’ll show how you can play Pokémon Go and Miitomo, also Animal Crossing and Fire Emblem (the mobile games coming out this year), with more social aspects than never, street pass and whatever other crazy stuff they come up with.
Many people, specially all those salty “hardcore” gamers, will be unhappy with this, so they’ll announce a special dock that will make the console as powerful as a PS4 neo, you can buy separately for 150$, it’ll come with a pro controller.
But come on Nintendo, we want those things together, we want a full console, worry not, there will be a full package that includes the portable machine, the dock, a game and a pro controller for 350$, so everybody will end up buying the full thing, Third Parties won’t have to worry about people not having the dock, so they can make games for it.
This makes a lot of sense coming from a Nintendo that has been monitoring the mobile market, add ons and upgrades are not rare this days, BUT the only thing that does not makes sense is, if you put your console on a Dock, with what exactly you’ll be playing with? I bet that those detachable controllers are the answer, but... how? If they merge and become a pro controller I’ll be speechless.
Well... let’s see. N64, GCN, Xbox One, Vita, powerful consoles that were dedicated to hardcore gamers, none of them sold very well, yes, I’m including One, that thing has sold 20 millions or so, and the upgrade is coming pretty soon, it will sell 5 more millions probably.
Wii, DS, consoles that everyone said will fail miserably... those are two of the three best selling consoles of all time.
There’s no way the current “hardcore” market can sustain 3 different home platforms, we’ve seen this during the GC, PS2, Xbox era, and now in this current generation, just check X Box One sales and compared them to 360 sales, in 3 years the 360 sold almost twice as much as One, the industry is changing, you adapt, or you’ll eventually be left behind.
"is going to help the industry to continue to grow and to take lots more casual players back in the industry” This doesn’t mean focusing on casuals as some have pointed out, this mean industry growth which is something consoles need to stay in the market, Nintendo understands this, that’s why they are aiming for an E rated console... meaning it’s for everyone (not just for hardcore or casuals, both are included in the E, think Mario Kart, or Smash, both E, both perfect for casual fun, both great for competitive play), just like DS and Wii were, those two being in the top 3 best selling consoles of all time.
If you remember the DS era, there were those games call Touch Generation, have you ever wondered why that label disappeared? Nintendo understood that labeling things was a way to separate the market, it was a huge mistake, that’s why it was removed, since Nintendo’s current goal is to unify the market. Can you imagine a world where mobiles gamers joined consoles gamers and viceversa?
My guess is that NX will use mobiles devices in several fun ways. Imagine a Pokémon Stadium game where you can transfer your Pokémon Go creatures into an HD world to watch them battle in and amazing stadium, and also transfer your creatures from Pokémon Sun & Moon, unifying both worlds of gaming into a single platform. Same goes for something like Zelda BotW, instead of having a gamepad, you can play it with a regular controller, but also, have the map available all the time in your mobile device of choice. There’s no need for a dual screen console if you manage to connect everyones cellphone into a single device, you can have multiple screens with their own power to create all kind of crazy games without making people expend a single extra penny. That’s what Nintendo is trying to do, and that’s what Pokémon Go and BotW told us, casual fun game VS a hardcore amazing deep world where you can spend hours.
@Zool that’s not the Zelda I expected at all, its actually far better.
The thing with Breath of the Wild is that it removes every single invisible wall giving you complete freedom, that’s something I’ve never seen in any game before, you can literally go anywhere in anyway you want, that’s insane. Also, the physics engine is amazing, look at how a rock rolls after you pushed it, how link rolls after being falcon punched in da face, the way everything interacts with everything is truly beautiful, and it does not feel floaty, like in some other open world games.
@Yorumi, Nintendo’s “fans" suck for real, look at Kid Icarus Uprising sales, look at F-zero’s sales, Metroid, Pikmin, and more. Nintendo fans have shown that they only really care about is Mario and Pokémon, not even Zelda sells all that well, that’s the message we all give to Nintendo, that’s why they can trust us to keep the company afloat, that’s why they need to shift their market, it’s all our fault.
@ThanosReXXX Get your facts right... Just Dance in mobile does use gyro, it actually requires you to have a smart TV and a cell phone. Motion control will be in NX in some sort of way, Wii Remote compatibility, mobile integration, new controller, I have no freaking clue.
I just pointed out something, I did not say that motion was the new gimmick, it might have something to do with it, or maybe not. With all the patents Nintendo has registered lately it might be some sort of laser beam that goes right into your skull every time you die in a game, or maybe NX will make pancakes every time you gain a life, I truly don’t know, and to be honest I couldn’t care less until official information comes out, again, I just pointed out something that everybody ignored, something important that could mean a lot of things, like a Wii VC ready by launch, or a... ... ... Cooking Mama sequel, who knows.
We know something for sure, NX will use some sort of motion controller, Why I’m so sure about it? Just dance will release in NX, that game relies entirely in motion controllers, so NX will either have its own crazy controller (camera, who knows), or the Wii Remote will be compatible with the next console, ( I’m really curious as to why the entire vg press haven’t noticed that), so it might suggest that this crazy secret has something to do with motion, or... maybe not.
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Re: Nintendo And Game Freak's Latest Patent Hints At A New Direction For Pokémon On Switch
This looks a really fancy TCG.
Re: Feature: Exploring The Dual Worlds of InnerSpace On Nintendo Switch
I just noticed NL's Instagram icon at the botom of the page looks like an upside-down pokeball.
Re: Nintendo Celebrates Thanksgiving With Some Neat Breath of the Wild Art
@UK-Nintendo Canada and Mexico are part of North America, you meant US.
Re: EA Executive Clarifies Scope of Nintendo Switch Support, but is Cautious of Its Prospects
I don't really care about the portable aspect, but I really want that portable local multiplayer, having things like Mario Kart, fighting games, or something like Worms would be fantastic, portable gaming is not about playing solo anymore, is about sharing it with someone else, that's why Switch would really benefit a lot from having mainstream games like FIFA and Madden.
Re: Feature: Catch Up With the Animal Crossing Direct and New Leaf's Fresh Features
@Yorumi
Mmmmh... I think you're seeing this in a very wrong way.
Amiibos are like a season pass for several Nintendo games, and they give you a piece of plastic (the amiibo itself) too! That for me, is a great deal.
Most DLCs or Season Pass from other games are at the same price as an Amiibo figurine and give the same content or even worse, content that works with only 1 game btw.
Amiibos have something that no other DLC or extra content for any other game has, you can use it in different devices with different accounts, meaning you don't need to own all of them if you have friends with different amiibos, and what's even better, you can sell them.
Re: Say Hello to the Nintendo Switch, a New Concept for Gaming
Love the new “-“ and “+” buttons, they look awesome xD
Re: Say Hello to the Nintendo Switch, a New Concept for Gaming
Guys, is it just me, or Skyrim looks a lot better after the guys docks the tablet?
Re: Poll: What Do You Think of Pokémon Sun and Moon: Special Demo Version?
@Gorlokk don’t get your hopes too high about the textures, remember Pokémon is one of the biggest games ever, it needs A LOT more than 721 models, each one of them with their own animations, textures and more, they really need to sacrifice something to pull that off.
The bigger the Pokedex, the more impressive these games become, I still don’t know how they manage to make a game that looks better than a GCN game (Take a lot at Greninja’s model and compare it with any other pokémon model from Gale of Darkness) in such a small card with all those assets, all that information, that huge world, sound, music, and more and make it run in a 3DS, it’s amazing what they do.
Re: Weirdness: Desperation for NX Details Even Makes an Old Forum Post Interesting
@Damo Come on...
Every gaming site puts at least 1 or 2 articles a week about NX, Nintendo has only “censored" one article, ONE, the article even stated that Nintendo requested the site to remove that specific question, there’s a HUGE difference between censoring and requesting. You’re overreacting.
There’s a very obvious reason as to why they requested to remove that part of the interview, the Nintendo guy messed up, badly, he was assuming things by saying “Nintendo will MOST LIKELY hold a Nintendo Direct”, that could have led to a lot of misinformation, they need to keep things as clear as possible, leaving no room for "assuming guys".
Re: Random: Nintendo Censors Canadian Interview For Daring To Mention NX
I thought NintendoLife didn’t write tabloid articles.
The only thing that happened here, is that that Nintendo of Canada representative screwed up in a big way, they don’t want to misinform people, that’s all, otherwise all press would be censored by now, you said it yourself, ”... it's abundantly clear that the gaming media is gagging to learn more about the mysterious console.” And how do we know the media if eager to learn more? Because they haven’t censored any other person, they only have censored their own stupidity, geez, calm down.
Re: Ubisoft CEO: "Nintendo Has Learned from the Wii U"
I kinda see what Nintendo is doing here, I bet NX will be revealed next week, here’s why.
Not just Guillemot has said that Nintendo learned a lot from Wii U, but also did Iwata, Miyamoto, Reggie and Kimishima, they all said that the Wii U message was wrong, and people didn’t have time to try it out for themselves, “But they missed E3 and TGS and blablabla”, there’s a bigger, better event to showcase the NX, the New York Comic Con, that is the perfect place to let regular people, not just press, to try out the console, that’s what they need, attract all sorts of people to NX, not just the “hardcore” audience.
If they miss Comic Con, then you can say they haven’t learned anything but I think I’m onto something here.
Re: Nintendo NX Will "Change The Concept" Of Home Console And Handheld Gaming, Says Pokémon Company President
@ThanosReXXX
In this economy, in this market, there’s no room for a third “Real” console, specially with so many competitors out there, it’s not just Microsoft or Sony, PC manufacturers are also in, I can buy an Alienware console that completely destroys PS and XBox in terms of power, catalogue, and price.
Nintendo NEEDS to be different this time if they want to succeed, they need to appeal to a bigger market, no just the shrinking console crowd.
Re: Animal Crossing: New Leaf's Fall Update Will Handle The Weeding So You Don't Have To
Isabelle is probably hiring Shiba Kari (Legend of Kusakari) for this job.
Re: CoroCoro Reveals Rockruff's Evolution & New Ultra Beasts for Pokémon Sun and Moon
Ash now looks like he's 7yo. Curious Case of Ash Ketchum.
Re: Talking Point: Unique and Affordable - Nintendo's NX Needs to Avoid Direct Competition With PlayStation and Xbox
I think they’ll at least try to be on par with PS4 in terms of power, the PS4 slim is 299, so a 299 Nintendo console should do.
What I think they could do to mask the price of the console, if the hybrid thing is true, is to make the portable part as powerful as a Wii U (or more), that way they could sell it for 200$, while the dock, that powers up the portable part to be superior to PS4 but not powerful as Pro, could be sold for 100$ as a separate component, or buy both things in a single package for 250$.
@Ralek85 Nintendo has been pretty innovative with almost all of their consoles, with a few exceptions, those being Gamecube, Wii U (It’s just a bigger version of a DS in a poorly executed way), Gameboy Color, Gameboy Advance and 3DS.
Nes introduce the controller.
SNES introduce an upgrade controller with more buttons, R & L being the most important of them all.
Virtual Boy, it was a nice try xD
N64 introduced the joystick, C buttons and a single button that helped Ocarina become what it is today, the Z button (You want a truly hard Zelda experience? Play without Z targeting).
Without Wii, motion controllers wouldn’t be as popular as they are (Every phone has a gyroscope for no reason at all).
Game & Watch, more a toy than a gaming console, but it was the first step.
Gameboy, the truly first portable gaming console. (Atari’s Lynx was superior but well, you know how it goes, it came a few months later than Gameboy, sorry Atari)
DS, dual screen and more important, the touch screen.
Yes, we had some of those things before, but they were poorly used or poorly developed, innovation does not equals invention, equals using something in a different way.
Re: Analysts Expect Nintendo NX Reveal by Early October and Make Bold Super Mario Run Predictions
Every company is doing what they think is the right thing to do.
Microsoft is doing a "true next gen console” with Scorpio, while Sony is using his marketing powers to make people believe PS4 Pro is powerful, when it isn’t, the 4k is fake, it's just using rendering techniques to make games look prettier (they even said that during the conference masked with a lot of technicalities), PS4 Pro is an useless console with no real purpose whatsoever, it’ll have no exclusives, it’s expensive, and it ’s using outdate technology meaning it’ll last for 3 years (it’s a 400 dollar DSi or New Nintendo 3DS), meanwhile you can expect Scorpio to live at least for 8 years or so if it’s as powerful as a high end PC.
Nintendo, on the other hand, is the only company that is adapting to the current mobile era, they showed exactly that during the Apple Keynote, making it the strongest company of the three, they also understand how the gaming industry is currently working, in the past you could see announcements of games that would come out two years after their unveiling, now it’s not the case, most of the current games are announced 4-6 months before their release, people is impatient, as some have proven saying Nintendo is doomed if they do not announce NX soon, so an early October or late September reveal sounds about right, specially with TGS distracting people for a while.
Sony, as some experts have claimed, has a 78% chance of going bankrupt in the next 2 years, while Nintendo has 22%, and I’m pretty sure those numbers have increased and decreased respectively after yesterday’s announcements, Nintendo is doing the right thing as a company, some of us might not like it, or even understand it, but it’s the best thing to do nonetheless.
Re: Poll: Share Your Thoughts on Super Mario Run and the Delays to Animal Crossing and Fire Emblem on Mobile
Mario Run looks pretty fun, and I was extremely surprised by that. The animation and the mechanics they added were pretty spot on and add a layer of depth to your usual runner game, and that competitive "gotta grab all coins" seems like a nice extra mode to play.
Re: Nintendo Appears at Apple Conference to Announce Super Mario Run
Mobile market is killing the console market, that’s not a fact, but it’s almost a fact, Sony has sold 40 million PS4s, Nintendo 13 million Wii U’s and Microsoft around 10 millions Xbox One (at least some sources claim that is the actual number), that’s 63 million consoles sold in 11 years (combining the life of all 3 consoles as to date), last generation in 9 years (3 years each console) sold almost 120 million consoles total with Wii, PS3 and 360... that’s twice the quantity, something is wrong in this generation, and that’s the increased popularity of mobile gaming.
As a company Nintendo can’t compete at all with mobile devices, everyone and their mothers have a smartphone, you can’t kill that it’s impossible, so they actually acknowledge that the only way to survive in the chaotic market is to adapt and join the enemy, so they are doing exactly that. How does that help us, the niche market? By expanding the brands and gaming to everyone increases the chance of people buying a dedicated gaming platform, just take a look at 3DS and Pokémon sales after the huge success of Pokémon Go.
If Nintendo manages to actually turn gaming, “REAL” gaming (RPG, complex open worlds, and that stuff), into a mainstream thing, we’ll be seeing the best gaming era ever. Imagine that every single person you know owns a dedicated gaming platform, the possibilities are endless, this are exciting and uncertain times indeed.
It also shocked me to see Miyamoto and Bill in big Apple stage, this could mean huge things for the “hardcore” gaming industry, Nintendo and Apple might join forces together and create the biggest and best gaming platform ever, or maybe something even better, I don’t know, this opens so much possibilities, it’s overwhelming.
Re: Talking Point: The Scale of the Mobile Industry Makes it an Important Market for Nintendo
@Mahe
Lol... Nintendo 3DS was a success, and still is.
Nintendo made huge mistakes with Wii U, yes, but the company can’t take all the blame, they actually tried to do something for it, Wonderful 101, Bayonetta 2, Star Fox, Pikmin 3. You know what all those games have in common? All great games but didn’t sold well. Whose to blame there?
Re: Nintendo Appears at Apple Conference to Announce Super Mario Run
@Yorumi
If Nintendo goes mobile, is what all we deserve for not supporting the company, as simple as that. But you know what, they won’t do that, we’ll get a new brand console... they still believe in their fans... Nintendo is really, really stubborn.
Re: Nintendo Appears at Apple Conference to Announce Super Mario Run
@Yorumi
Nintendo’s future is secured because of this decisions.
We’re gonna get Zelda BotW, a game that has took almost 7 years to develop, a game that might not even sell a million copies, we are also getting the most ambitious Pokémon game yet, if that is not pleasing their fans, I don’t what it is.
This generation we got so many games, and so many games that didn’t sold well, like Star Fox, the ones giving the back to Nintendo are their fans, but yet they’ll still gives us the, probably, best Zelda ever, even though no one is grateful of what Nintendo gave us this generation, Splatoon, Bayonetta 2, Wonderful 101, Smash for 3DS, great Pokémon games, Mario 3D World, Mario Kart 8, Fire Emblem and so much more.
Re: Nintendo Appears at Apple Conference to Announce Super Mario Run
Mario runner is a handicapped Mario... yes it is, and also Pokémon Go is handicapped (VERY handicapped) Pokémon game.
This is to create brand awareness, this is Nintendo making the industry bigger, something it desperately needs. Why all the melodrama, people really need to chill and learn to adapt, this is not the SNES era anymore, this is the Mobile era, deal with it.
Re: Talking Point: What Approach Should Nintendo Take With Its NX Reveal?
I think they should do a mix of those strategies.
First of all, a Nintendo Direct should be a must, we need magnificent beards, puppets, non-specific action figures, and Bill Trinen eating donuts, BUT, this should be showcased during a live event. Instead of having the usual live press conference, have the audience watch the Direct in a huge screen (Maybe with Reggie live with some opening and closing lines), this way everyone will be seeing the exact same thing at the exact same time with great production value, so, What’s the point of having a live event then? Simple, after the NDirect ends, people at the show could simply stand up and get ready to play what they just saw in the screen.
If NX has some sort of gimmick that needs to be played to understand, the Direct should close with “You’ll be able to try the console during this time at this locations”, with regular events here and there for people to try NX.
A Treehouse after the Direct could explain games and features even further to get the message right this time.
Re: Poll: Did the 3DS Nintendo Direct Boost Your Hype for the Portable's Line-Up?
Bill’s beard was the best from this direct.
I love Nintendo's super silly humor.
Re: Wall Street Journal Reports That Nintendo NX Will Indeed Use Flash-Based Game Cards
@ThanosReXXX The problem with those technologies is that they are far from being useful, they need a lot of development, even VR needs a lot of polish still, the price is also a problem, they aren’t cheap.
The problem I see with merged reality is that it still puts you in danger, you can still hit things that are not within the sight of the camera, it also can’t detect height levels, that’s a big issue. We need something like Sword Art Online VR, put your headset and sit somewhere else or just lie in your bed, that’s the only way I see VR working.
AR and Hololens are actually far more useful, is uses the room you’re in to play, it just puts some AR stuff here and there, you don’t necessarily need a dedicated space nor it puts you in danger since it is using the space you’re in, the problem is, you’re confined to a single room, if you get out of it, Hololens needs to recalculate EVERYTHING, destroying your experience.
This technologies look promising and amazing, but they need a lot of work still, the VR and AR race is putting things that aren’t ready to be in the market for us, the consumers, to test. Nintendo learnt a lot from Virtual Boy and 3DS, they’re not going to use experimental technology in one of their systems.
New technologies aside, Will using cartridges for games mean that they can put DLC right in the card instead of the console?
Re: Yoshi's Woolly World Will Soften Up Your 3DS In 2017, Poochy amiibo Also Incoming
@rjejr You are just assuming those games were coming to Wii U, but as far as I can see, Pikmin was design with a 2D environment in mind and it looks pretty darn awful (let’s be honest, it looks graphically horrible compared to Mario Kart 7 or Smash), this Pikmin, Mario Sports, and all the new stuff look like easy/fast to make games.
To me, these are things to get rid of all the consoles they have in stock, simple but attractive games that will make some heads turn, you may say that it’s not needed, specially with a new Pokémon generation coming out around the same date as those other games, but Pikmin and Mario Sports fill a niche that Pokémon can’t, so they will attract a lot more people during the next few months. Also, the awful graphical quality of all the announced games made me think of something else, NX.
Again, those games I can assure were made in 6 months or less, that’s not a bad thing, great games not necessarily take years to make, but it seems like Nintendo is putting the real effort somewhere else. The question is, where? It’s obviously not Wii U, and the only game shown that looks like a bigger budget game was Ever Oasis, so, the only answer is NX. Nintendo is not taking Wii U’s games from it and giving them to 3DS, they are just focusing in something else, and trying to make a little more money out of the 3DS. Wii U, if you’re not waiting Paper Mario, is pretty much dead... actually is been dead for almost 8 months now.
Re: Metroid Prime: Federation Force Power Bombs in Japan
This is why I hate Nintendo Fans, they really, really, never try something new.
Metroid Federation Force is JUST a spin-off and should be treated like it, people complaining and saying “This is not a Metroid I’m not gonna buy it” are acting like a spoiled kid. The game is definitely not a Metroidvania style game but that’s ok, Samus is not even the main character, so why complain? Because it says Prime in the title and is killing your nostalgia?
Federation Force is an experiment that tries to expand the Metroid universe (There’s more than Samus out there) into places we haven’t seen before, it was a nice try, it was far from being perfect, but a sequel would fix all the problems of this... wait for it... NEW franchise, but thank you Metroid “fans”, you killed the possibility of having more games based on the rich Metroid history.
I'll leave you with a question, Isn’t expanding the Metroid Universe and using it more often is something you actually wanted and even dreamed of? Well... ... ...
Re: Random: Disgruntled Young Pokémon GO Fan Makes Satirical Game About Playing in the Suburbs
I still don’t get why Pokémon Go is a huge success amongst Pokémon fans. Why would I play a dumb-down version of the game where I can only catch 146 Pokémon, can’t IV train, can't breed, gyms are just overpowered things to keep you grinding, and with a extremely silly battle system? Probably I’ll never know.
Re: Take-Two Interactive President Praises the Success of Pokémon GO
Nah, pokémon go will never have the Pokémon of the latest gen. The Pokémon Company and Nintendo want more gamers and more attention, if you play Pokémon Go but not the Pokémon games, but you know someone that does or simply Google “Pokemon”, you’ll be seeing a lot of this new creatures you won’t be able to get, so you’ll end up buying a 3DS and a Pokémon game to please your collector needs.
Re: Report Points to Nintendo NX Manufacturing Ramping Up in Q4 2016
Why everybody is so scared about a two year old chip? If you own a PS4 or Xbox One you’re using 6 year old technology... maybe 8 year old
Tegra X1 is nearly as capable as an Xbox One, AND Nintendo has always used custom chips for their consoles, this will make it nearly as powerful as a PS4. It also makes sense if they’re truly trying to aim for the casual market, pricing is important.
What I hope they do:
Announce NX as a portable powerful machine that will run Breath of the Wild even better than Wii U for a 250$ price.
They’ll show come crazy trailers with people playing in a café or restaurant, two guys with one console, "Who pays the bill?" Let’s decide it in a Smash game! (If the 2 controllers thing is true, is the selling gimmick, imagine people playing FIFA or things like that in an office or whatever, it will also make people’s heads turn for sure, remember Nintendo really likes the mouth to mouth publicity).
They’ll show how you can play Pokémon Go and Miitomo, also Animal Crossing and Fire Emblem (the mobile games coming out this year), with more social aspects than never, street pass and whatever other crazy stuff they come up with.
Many people, specially all those salty “hardcore” gamers, will be unhappy with this, so they’ll announce a special dock that will make the console as powerful as a PS4 neo, you can buy separately for 150$, it’ll come with a pro controller.
But come on Nintendo, we want those things together, we want a full console, worry not, there will be a full package that includes the portable machine, the dock, a game and a pro controller for 350$, so everybody will end up buying the full thing, Third Parties won’t have to worry about people not having the dock, so they can make games for it.
This makes a lot of sense coming from a Nintendo that has been monitoring the mobile market, add ons and upgrades are not rare this days, BUT the only thing that does not makes sense is, if you put your console on a Dock, with what exactly you’ll be playing with? I bet that those detachable controllers are the answer, but... how? If they merge and become a pro controller I’ll be speechless.
Re: Sources Suggest That Pokémon and Mario Will Arrive on Nintendo NX in First Six Months
“Nintendo didn’t learn”
Well... let’s see.
N64, GCN, Xbox One, Vita, powerful consoles that were dedicated to hardcore gamers, none of them sold very well, yes, I’m including One, that thing has sold 20 millions or so, and the upgrade is coming pretty soon, it will sell 5 more millions probably.
Wii, DS, consoles that everyone said will fail miserably... those are two of the three best selling consoles of all time.
I’m pretty sure Nintendo has learned... a lot.
Re: Ubisoft CEO Says Nintendo NX Will Help Grow The Industry And Pull In Casual Players
There’s no way the current “hardcore” market can sustain 3 different home platforms, we’ve seen this during the GC, PS2, Xbox era, and now in this current generation, just check X Box One sales and compared them to 360 sales, in 3 years the 360 sold almost twice as much as One, the industry is changing, you adapt, or you’ll eventually be left behind.
"is going to help the industry to continue to grow and to take lots more casual players back in the industry” This doesn’t mean focusing on casuals as some have pointed out, this mean industry growth which is something consoles need to stay in the market, Nintendo understands this, that’s why they are aiming for an E rated console... meaning it’s for everyone (not just for hardcore or casuals, both are included in the E, think Mario Kart, or Smash, both E, both perfect for casual fun, both great for competitive play), just like DS and Wii were, those two being in the top 3 best selling consoles of all time.
If you remember the DS era, there were those games call Touch Generation, have you ever wondered why that label disappeared? Nintendo understood that labeling things was a way to separate the market, it was a huge mistake, that’s why it was removed, since Nintendo’s current goal is to unify the market. Can you imagine a world where mobiles gamers joined consoles gamers and viceversa?
My guess is that NX will use mobiles devices in several fun ways. Imagine a Pokémon Stadium game where you can transfer your Pokémon Go creatures into an HD world to watch them battle in and amazing stadium, and also transfer your creatures from Pokémon Sun & Moon, unifying both worlds of gaming into a single platform. Same goes for something like Zelda BotW, instead of having a gamepad, you can play it with a regular controller, but also, have the map available all the time in your mobile device of choice. There’s no need for a dual screen console if you manage to connect everyones cellphone into a single device, you can have multiple screens with their own power to create all kind of crazy games without making people expend a single extra penny. That’s what Nintendo is trying to do, and that’s what Pokémon Go and BotW told us, casual fun game VS a hardcore amazing deep world where you can spend hours.
Re: Feature: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild is Nintendo's Boldest Step Into Contemporary Game Design
@Zool that’s not the Zelda I expected at all, its actually far better.
The thing with Breath of the Wild is that it removes every single invisible wall giving you complete freedom, that’s something I’ve never seen in any game before, you can literally go anywhere in anyway you want, that’s insane. Also, the physics engine is amazing, look at how a rock rolls after you pushed it, how link rolls after being falcon punched in da face, the way everything interacts with everything is truly beautiful, and it does not feel floaty, like in some other open world games.
Re: Nintendo is Making a Subtle Shift in Company Focus
@Yorumi, Nintendo’s “fans" suck for real, look at Kid Icarus Uprising sales, look at F-zero’s sales, Metroid, Pikmin, and more. Nintendo fans have shown that they only really care about is Mario and Pokémon, not even Zelda sells all that well, that’s the message we all give to Nintendo, that’s why they can trust us to keep the company afloat, that’s why they need to shift their market, it’s all our fault.
Re: Nintendo NX Has A Core Idea Which Doesn't Just "Follow Advancements In Technology", Claims Miyamoto
@ThanosReXXX Get your facts right... Just Dance in mobile does use gyro, it actually requires you to have a smart TV and a cell phone. Motion control will be in NX in some sort of way, Wii Remote compatibility, mobile integration, new controller, I have no freaking clue.
I just pointed out something, I did not say that motion was the new gimmick, it might have something to do with it, or maybe not. With all the patents Nintendo has registered lately it might be some sort of laser beam that goes right into your skull every time you die in a game, or maybe NX will make pancakes every time you gain a life, I truly don’t know, and to be honest I couldn’t care less until official information comes out, again, I just pointed out something that everybody ignored, something important that could mean a lot of things, like a Wii VC ready by launch, or a... ... ... Cooking Mama sequel, who knows.
Re: Nintendo NX Has A Core Idea Which Doesn't Just "Follow Advancements In Technology", Claims Miyamoto
We know something for sure, NX will use some sort of motion controller, Why I’m so sure about it? Just dance will release in NX, that game relies entirely in motion controllers, so NX will either have its own crazy controller (camera, who knows), or the Wii Remote will be compatible with the next console, ( I’m really curious as to why the entire vg press haven’t noticed that), so it might suggest that this crazy secret has something to do with motion, or... maybe not.