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So why not go to NOE or Nintendo Japan and push your games with them?

I mean dude says its easier for indies with them... go talk to them. Less talk more action.

@MarcelRguez I mean, I wouldn't care about screws on a cartridge but then again I'm not a serious collector who would notice such a thing.

If you are a collector of anything, you're suppose to know every detail of what you're collecting. Otherwise you're just a casual hobbyist that is not very knowledgeable about what you're buying.

@Deathwalka Ah yes, I forgot about Corpse Party. And I guess the SMT games are on the creepy side too.

But man, if it wasn't for Steam, I would've missed out on a ton of horror games.

I really hope Switch gets a lot of them. I might double dip with Outlast on Switch. And especially if ALIEN ISOLATION gets released on it.

I mainly played on a handheld when it came to Nintendo platforms in gen 8. That means that I had almost zero to play in terms of horror games on the 3DS.

I mean there was Resident Evil Revelations (not scary except for the Maydaaaaay! part) & Dementium Remastered (it was OK but a bit too old school to be scary). And I think that was it on the 3DS.

Hopefully we get more quality horror games on Switch.

@JHDK He turns you on THAT much, eh?

@Ichiyama It's "ACKNOWLEDGED" not recognized, you Simpson n00b.

@AlphaJaguar I immigrated from the PC gamer scene.

Pls recognize

@Hordak The game didn't fail you... you did.

Git gud or git out

@KryptoKrunch Especially the salty responses from users who haven't touched their Switch "in years and years". Those are a nice.

Indies having success on the Switch... nah we can't have that.

Gotta love the armchair Nostradamus who claim Nintendo has nothing prepared for the Switch in 2018, tho. No Metroid, no Smash and no Animal Crossing (3DS version outsold THE LAST OF US so its not an insignificant IP).

@patbacknitro That user is VERY resistant to the idea that the 3DS can have a relevant life at retail in 2018.

But the facts are that the 3DS didn't have a bad a year in 2017 as many had predicted. Especially after they pushed the narrative that the Switch would replace that handheld. It didn't.

And we have the numbers to prove it. Here's how many units the 3DS sold in the US market alone by year.

2011 - 4.1 million
2012 - 3.6 million
2013 - 3.8 million
2014 - 2.6 million
2015 - 2.4 million
2016 - 2.5 million
2017 - 2 million

The drop in sales has not been as huge as many thought it sould be. Fact is, the 3DS is still a healthy platform (especially in Japan). And Nintendo will support it with new games in 2018 and beyond.

@Alikan My PC is at a point where it will be soon obsolete for modern gaming. And looking at how much it will cost to replace or update it... yeah, costs went up a LOT lately. Apparently thanks the cryptocurrency craze. So my gaming options might suffer a bit if things do not change on that front.

Anyway... yeah the Switch is a lifesaver for sure.

@UmbreonsPapa But you could say the same about uber popular platforms like NES and Snes that are infamous for having emulators running on just about anything with a screen or a cpu. And you can also find NES, SNES games on eshop, ios and on android devices.

And yet Nintendo can still make bank on them (see NES/SNES minis). With no problems or issues about the market being saturated with them at all.

IMO, ppl are selling the Mega Drive/Genesis short. Some dude here even said to me that its library of games was basically unimpressive because you could play many of its games on the SNES. Which is an inane argument since that logic also could apply to the SNES, and yet that didn't stop said platform from being such a magnet for gamers with the SNES mini.

@iMarkU "In the game industry UK is indeed the leader in Europe"

Yeah that was my point.

In regards to this being an UK based site that primarily caters to the UK... its certainly a site that caters mostly to English speaking countries (as in the UK and the US).

@therealgamer Nah, it's because Switch owners want MEAT.

@ThanosReXXX Well form factor is subjective. The Dreamcast's control pad wasn't exactly very ergonomical. But again, subjective stuff.

What is not fanfiction tho, is that the Wii U had games that were not only as good as anything produced for the Dreamcast but even better games as well.

Hell, one of its games is currently GOTY for over 150 gaming/non-gaming publications.

But yeah, DC was one of the greats of its generation BECAUSE OF ITS GAMES.

Hey! Like the Wii U. 😁

@ThanosReXXX Well I wasn't implying that the Dreamcast had the exact same problems and issues that plagued the Wii U. Only that they both failed to catch on.

I was a gamer back then and I remember the excitement the Dreamcast generated around my friends. Similar to when the Wii U first hit. I then saw both consoles quickly fall from grace. Each for different reasons, of course.

I do remember how everyone thought the DC would beat the PlayStation 2. Since it had amazing games. But then the PS2 became a Dreamcast port station (at least initially). So much for that.

In regards to what could've been for Dreamcast... well, that's fanfiction territory. Its the same as going "if Nintendo and Sony had joined forces, we would be playing Mario on a Playstation at present". We just don't know for sure.

@TJM I have no idea what your on about.

But you sure need to simma down, man.

@JasmineDragon Well that may be true. But we're not seeing the UK being replaced as 'the face of Europe' any time soon in the videogame scene (politically or economically that's a whole 'nother ballgame).

The reason for that is that a good chunk of the videogames industry was born in the UK. No one can erase that. And I doubt that it will change soon.

Not unless the gaming markets in Germany, France or Italy get better organized in making themselves known. You barely hear about them unless its about how x game wasn't translated or because it was censored.

In terms of Nintendo, I think said company has better support in most European countries. Better than in the UK. Since retail stores in the UK traditionally ignore Nintendo products.

@thesilverbrick I think current Nintendo fans are of the older variety, actually.

Kids these days? They won't play on Nintendo consoles. They want GTA, Overwatch and all the M rated games.

Meanwhile, older gamers are coming back to Nintendo. We see it with the Switch and especially with the success of retro consoles like the NES/SNES minis. And even Pokemon. Kids that grew up with that are in their mid 20's or even older.

I mean iconic Ninty IP's are all in their 25/30's such as Metroid, Mario and Zelda. Who plays these games? Mostly adults. Because kids want some of that sweet mahture action.

So yeah, I do think most of the gamers that are called "Nintendo fans" these days will gravitate to something like Dark Souls.

No love for the Master System

Funny how Dreamcast is most popular w/voters considering that it tanked 'Wii U style' when it came out. The Mega Drive / Genesis was way more popular and produced more Sega classics.

@Gorbash333 That game by Viseral was scrapped and cancelled because it was too focused on being a single player experience. EA demanded that it be more online multiplayer friendly. But that forced the dev team to spread itself too thin trying to make two games at the same time.

The one you're talking about is an open world game. A game that will be more of what EA demanded from Viseral.

@KIRO Well if you have a HUGE backlog of games, maybe investing time GETTIN' GUD with a game like this might not be fer you.

But its something you can talk about your grandkids about, tho.

I mean old Nintendo gamers are already telling their grandkids that only play GTA of how it was back in the days for them. When they only had enough money to buy ONE game every 3-6 months. Because cartridge base games were sold for as much as $80 bucks. So they had to get as much mileage as possible from every game.

Thus why buying a hard as nails game in the NES era was the best option to get more bang from yer money.

@yuwarite Exactly. Old Nintendo fans that have played Ninja Gaiden or classic Castlevania will appreciate Dark Souls a lot more.

While new Nintendo fans who have only played Wii Bowling or Ubisoft's IMAGINE shovelware games, they will probably will find the gameplay too challenging.

@Cosats I like XENOsaga more but XENOblade is fine too.

BTW, I don't hate Germany, France or any other European country not from the UK. I actually think those countries are awesome places.

Just not for videogames, tho! 😙

@Gorbash333 The only Star Wars game from EA that I wanted to play was cancelled.

Battlefront 2 has a craptacular story mode (in terms of story - the gameplay is fine). If we get that I guess it will be ok. But not really ideal, IMO.

@gatorboi352 Well I meant SW support has taken a hit in 2018.

VR needs "meaty" games ala Resident Evil 7.

I don't see more of that any time soon.

@Gorbash333 People keep mentioning Star Wars game(s) from EA.

There really is only one. And it's not really that good.

I'm pretty sure most want FIFA (in Europe) and Madden (in the US).

@thesilverbrick Name calling?

I called you an armchair psychologist because that's exactly how you were behaving.

Anyway my main point: because of you missing out on that specific period of time (NES at its peak) you obviously didn't get why Dark Souls would be something old Nintendo gamers would find it attractive.

@clvr aw, c'mon... vgchartz? Seriously?

That site has the reputation of Breitbart, the National Enquirer and Buzzfeed.

But I will say that thanks to the Switch's eShop best seller lists from specific countries, that we're now getting a better idea what sells outside of the main 3 videogame markets.

@ieatdragonz Someone needs to buy Treehouse's ppl a Switch.

@MoonKnight7 My phone is VR capable.

And unless I'm in a hurry to play a VR game (99.9% of the times a tech demo not named Resident Evil 7), I'm not interested in playing dat.

VR is at this point a pointless gimmick.

Maybe in a few years (decades) it will be a good gaming option.

1st/2nd party 3DS games from Nintendo being released in 2018.

Yes... That is still a thing.

@clvr Where are those weekly non UK charts?

I wonder why they rarely show up on a gaming site.

@thesilverbrick You're reading my public info on a website. Notice that I didn't did that to you. Why would I? That would be creepy.

I only said you were not old enough to play NES games. And you went ballistic about me implying that.

Nothing to be ashamed of.

@quinnbad Well this site has to throw the other EU countries a bone, now and then.

Less they feel left out.

But Perfect Dark was a better FPS on the N64.

@thesilverbrick You read my post history?

So you're now stalking me.

Wonderful.

@Cosats When was the last time we had a best seller list from Germany, France, Spain or any other EU country?

We have those from the UK almost every week or so.

I rest my case.

@Equinox Germany is a leader is censoring games.

Remember those bots in those Turok games?

@Cosats Dude, I'm talking about it in terms of market for videogames.

The UK is the capital of Europe in that scene. Always was.

@gatorboi352 But VR already fizzled out, tho.

And this year we'll see even less stellar games than last year. And last year it was basically Resident Evil 7 just for one VR platform (thanks to Sony moneyhattin' that game).

@thesilverbrick ah, now you're going into armchair psychologists mode.

Typical reaction from someone who was in diapers when most Nintendo fans were sentient and playing Ninja Gaiden.

So you're feeling like you missed out, uh? Most did. So don't feel sorry for yourself.

@Cosats But the UK market is the only part of Europe that matters.

Even after Brexit, the capital of Europe is still the UK.

@Pichuka97 You could've just printed the box art and stuff that in a case.

But then again that's not how we're gonna pass Bamco's tests, right?

@thesilverbrick Ah, so you weren't yet fully "operational" when Nintendo fans were playing those h@rdc0r3 games. Thus you were too young to understand how DS would be something THOSE type of Nintendo fans would probably like to play.

Got ya.

@Agramonte There's always time to play Tetris or Pac-Man. It's not like you have to set aside even an hour for it. A couple of minutes is usually enough to get a quick fix.

You'll still have a ton of time to play Battlefront II or OW.

@thesilverbrick Ninja Gaiden for the NES is 29 years old. I wonder how far you played it when it came out.

@Agramonte Some people like to play Pac Man at present... not just wear Pac Man characters as avatars 😉

@thesilverbrick I think the AVGN is older than you, tho. He's almost 40.

@thesilverbrick Nintendo fans have been around before you were given form.

So it could be something for OLD SCHOOL Nintendo fans that grew up on Ninja Gaiden, (non Metroidvania) Castlevania games and other "cheap" games that made AVGN throw his controllers against a wall or blow up a cartridge. That's what they probably meant.

@Agramonte - Souls on Switch... another reason not to turn on your PS4.

@Supadav03 but you would've needed an extra battery pack for Switch pulling double duty, tho.

I actually did play this at the arcades back in the day.

Didn't click with me even then. Not my cup of tea. The gameplay just doesn't do anything for me.

But for collectors I guess this might represent a buy. As a player, I'll pass.

@ogo79 but no online option for friendless wonders or "proper levels" (LOL I guess Zelda 1 never had those) and stuff.