The games industry is all about cycles – perhaps more so than any other sector of the tech business. The constant evolution of gaming hardware means that gamers have become accustomed to upgrading their consoles every five-or-so years, putting aside the glorious memories of one generation in exchange for the promise of improved visuals and myriad enhancements that come hand-in-hand with the relentless march of technology.
As one of the longest-serving companies in the world of video games, Nintendo has danced this merry jig on multiple occasions; its fans have therefore witnessed many hardware epochs, with crude 2D visuals giving way to slick 3D graphics and physical cartridges being replaced by optical storage media – before Nintendo's recent systems saw them return to favour. As is to be expected, Nintendo hasn't negotiated each of these generational leaps with the same degree of assurance; while it transitioned between the 8 and 16-bit eras with relative ease, it struggled to bridge the gap between the SNES and the N64 – in purely commercial terms, if not critical – and the less said about the disastrous Wii U, the better.
We now find the company at another of its 'high points', thanks to the incredible success of the Switch. Given how well the system is selling, it might seem premature to even consider what lies beyond its (hopefully elongated) lifespan, but it's also worth keeping in mind that we're almost two years into that lifespan and that Nintendo will almost certainly be thinking about how best to navigate its next hardware transition – especially as the Switch will soon be the company's sole piece of gaming hardware, given that the 3DS is on its last legs. There's a lot resting on the shoulders of this one console.
The company has a few options on the table, and sitting here at the dawn of 2019, it's relatively easy to suggest that it sticks with the winning formula of the Switch and ride the concept over at least the next decade. The Switch has found a sweet spot in the market that no other company appears interested in exploring; by offering both home and portable play – and appealing multiplayer capabilities, thanks to those Joy-Con – Nintendo has done what it does best. It has fashioned a sector of the market all its own, and one which didn't really exist prior to the launch of the console.
Fast forward a few years, however, and could Nintendo potentially find itself at a crossroads – a crossroads it previously reached towards the end of the Wii era? That system would eventually find itself in over 100 million households all over the world, but towards the end of its life the Wii's unique selling point – its accessible motion-based gameplay – became something of a novelty, a fact which Nintendo appeared to anticipate when it began development on its successor, the Wii U. While it retained the Wii's primary controller – the Wii Remote – the selling point was the GamePad, which offered potentially groundbreaking 'asynchronous' gameplay.
It was a bold move and one that on paper made some degree of sense. The Wii had tremendous brand recognition but it was clear that motion control was rapidly losing its appeal; therefore, a console which offered HD visuals and new gameplay possibilities while retaining ties with the original Wii was, it could be argued, the best way to bridge that particular generational gap. With the benefit of hindsight, we can say it was anything but that; the Wii U is perhaps Nintendo's most costly hardware failure, despite playing host to some stunning software (the best of which is thankfully enjoying a new lease of life on Switch). It failed to capture the imagination of the public, was poorly marketed and lacked third-party support.
Could we therefore see a more cautious Nintendo this time around – the same Nintendo which iterated the creaking Game Boy hardware across the best part of a decade? It's certainly possible; Switch itself feels like a culmination of everything the company has learned over the past few years. It has the touchscreen of the DS, the motion controls of the Wii and the (largely unfilled) portability of the Wii U GamePad. The Joy-Con also serve as a vital connection to the days of the NES and SNES, thanks to their 'pass-around' nature and familiar button and pad layout. It's like all of the best bits of Nintendo's past hardware have been thrown into a melting pot to produce the company's most versatile system yet.
Having said that, there's obviously a limit to how far the Switch can be pushed, both in technical terms and as a concept. Given that the Nvidia hardware inside the machine had already been available on the market for some time before Switch even launched, it's obvious that some kind of upgrade is required to ensure that the console can maintain pace with its rivals. While developers like Panic Button have done an amazing job of porting AAA titles like DOOM and Warframe to Switch, once the PS5 and the next Xbox arrive on the scene, that becomes an entirely different challenge. A more powerful Switch will obviously be required to offer some kind of parity with next-gen consoles, but how does Nintendo go about creating and releasing such a platform?
Both Sony and Microsoft produced enhanced, mid-cycle systems this hardware generation, with the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X maintaining full compatibility with the older hardware while adding in bells and whistles, the most notable being 4K support. It's an approach that even Nintendo itself has embraced in the past, with the New Nintendo 3DS offering a modest spec bump over older 3DS models. Could it take the same approach again, as has been rumoured? Perhaps we will see a 'Switch Pro' in 2019, a hardware iteration that comes with modest improvements that allow the console to keep up with the competition. One easy win would be a 1080p screen on the console itself, and a performance boost which allows games to run in 'docked' performance mode even when played in portable form.
However, as we found with the New 3DS, such an approach doesn't always yield satisfactory results. A tiny selection of games made use of the increased power offered by that console, presumably in fear of fracturing the market and alienating those millions who owned the older 3DS and 2DS systems. Were Nintendo to release a more powerful Switch – one which packs the newer Tegra X2 chipset, perhaps – how would it, and third-party developers, make the most of that increased power without cutting off those who already own the existing unit?
One option is to follow the lead of Apple, which releases more powerful phones and tablets each year but maintains an impressive degree of compatibility between them; an iPhone from four or five years ago is still capable of running pretty much any app or game that 2019's iPhone XS can, although it obviously won't run them as quickly or smoothly. Games could be optimised to take advantage of a new Switch model's increased power, but they'd still work on the original machine, albeit with a lower resolution, frame rate and other graphical cutbacks. Adopting this strategy would allow Nintendo to turn the Switch into a product like the iPhone or iPad; it could be updated almost indefinitely, with new models introducing fresh features as the years roll by, and thereby maintaining a consistent stream of revenue as people upgrade every few years. However, this does mean committing to the Switch concept in the long run, and as we know, Nintendo isn't a company that likes to be in the same place for too long; it loves to innovate when it comes to hardware. It also loves to confound expectation and do the exact opposite of what is anticipated.
With that in mind, if Nintendo were to take a different route and ditch Switch after five or so years, what would potentially come next? Could we see the firm move into the realm of VR, a sector which has enjoyed modest growth but is arguably waiting for a firm like Nintendo to take it – as it did with touch and motion control – and sell it to the masses? Nintendo has consistently stated that it is looking into VR but will only enter that area of the market when it is confident it can make it 'fun', but with PSVR showing the way with titles like Beat Saber and Astro Bot Rescue Mission – the latter of which looks, feels and plays like it came right out of Nintendo's Kyoto development labs – surely that time is approaching?
Nintendo president Shuntaro Furukawa has already voiced the opinion that Nintendo could, in the future, move away from home hardware development and potentially become a software-only company; in a recent interview, he said that Nintendo will "continue to think flexibly" about how to deliver its games to players "as time goes on," and that "in the long-term, perhaps our focus as a business could shift away from home consoles – flexibility is just as important as ingenuity". While we can't imagine that is on the table quite yet, it goes without saying that Nintendo (and its rivals) would have no option but to embrace multi-device streaming platforms if the industry really does move in that direction, as Guillemot and others predict. After all, a world where every person who owns a smart device – be that a phone, tablet or TV – is a potential player and source of revenue is the dream for every entertainment company, Nintendo included.
Whatever Nintendo has up its sleeves, it's always sobering to look back at the company's history and see how much things can change – and how quickly. The firm began making playing cards before moving to children's toys and electronic gadgets – it even dabbled in the world of seedy 'love hotels', snacks and taxis, lest we forget. Given Nintendo's advanced age, its foray into the realm of video games is comparatively recent, and since the 1970s it has enjoyed amazing successes and a few dismal failures. This time 10 years ago, it was seemingly unstoppable thanks to the amazing performance of the Wii; fast forward half a decade and it had fallen from that position thanks to the noble misstep that was the Wii U. A single hardware generation can turn the tables and it's vital to remember that even though Switch is selling in handsome numbers, Nintendo's highest point saw it selling 154 million DS consoles and 101 million Wii consoles in the same generation; it's unlikely that we'll ever see a video game hardware manufacturer hit those numbers again in the same hardware cycle.
Nintendo, for its part, seems to be comfortable with that; it arguably sacrificed potential revenue by consolidating its home and portable interests in a single console this time around, but the risk has paid off because the hybrid nature of Switch makes it totally unique when compared to other consoles and even smart devices. The question that Nintendo has to answer next is how unique that approach will be when moving into the next hardware cycle; can Switch possibly sustain the company for the next decade, and if not, what comes after?
As ever, we'd love to know what you think so feel free to post a comment and vote in the poll below.
What would you like to see Nintendo do? (390 votes)
- Keep the Switch going for years to come with new SKUs and regular upgrades53%
- Create an entirely new console after Switch has run its course19%
- Create an entirely new console after Switch has run its course, but with a typical Nintendo-style gimmick (VR, perhaps?)10%
- Move into becoming a software-driven company that supports the supposed 'streaming' future of gaming1%
- I honestly don't care, I'll follow Nintendo whatever it does17%
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Switch is an almost perfect concept as is imo. Just give me a more powerful one with a couple new features that corrects any issues every few years and I will be good.
The Tegra X2 isn't THAT much more powerful than the X1. I dunno why people keep expecting nintendo to chuck an X2 in the switch and suddenly come out with a next gen system.
Don't even want to think about what's next. Honestly the Switch has by far the best gimmick of any Nintendo platform yet, so I would rather they just do revisions every few years and add more horsepower, better screens, battery life, QOL stuff, etc. The Switch is absolutely my favorite console and handheld since the SNES and GBA.
Feels kinda early to be talking about this but I do hope that Nintendo iterates on the Switch design.
While I don’t think a Switch Pro will come out so soon, I’ll be happy to see the Switch brand grow over the next few years.
@Frenean god I love the game boy advanced. What a fantastic handheld. So many hidden gems on the thing as well. Embarrassment of riches.
Only One i need from Nintendo...
Please STAY at your business as 1st party developer and DON'T turn into 3rd party , Nintendo !!
I'm really excited for the future of Nintendo and gaming. I imagine Nintendo will continue to push the switch for years and make upgraded iterations like the 3ds. And at that point VR technology should be advanced enough to be mainstream and it would be very interesting to see what Nintendo could do with their characters. We've already seen VR Mario Kart
so Nintendo is definitely headed in the right direction.
Even though the appeal of portable gaming is lost on me, Nintendo would be fools to deviate from the blueprint.
I'd be shocked if they did anything other than iterate the Switch brand. Release a Switch Pro this year or early next and call it a day for a few years.
Nintendo have always been a duel prong system company so I do wonder if they will try to replace the 3ds with something else whenever they call time on it. Maybe a download only handheld which you can download legacy content or are they seeing mobile phone gaming as the second prong in the future.
NEW Super Nintendo switch U XL 64 mini perhaps?
Just kidding, but I'm pretty sure it will just be an upgraded version while they make an ACTUAL next console, just like their other succesful consoles.
I really feel like Nintendo can ride on the Switch for a long time. They just have to make sure future Switch systems or hardware revisions share the same architecture. They could milk bi-annual system upgrades that arent mandatory for most games and I think most would be fine with that (as long as we keep getting excellent game, that is).
But hey, that's just a though. Who knows what they'll do 🙃
The switch is a great console but the idea and concept of the switch is outstanding my other consoles feel strange to me now as I have gotten older and less time for gaming and family responsibilities work and other commitments the switch fits my lifestyle I just hope Nintendo stick with the concept but perhaps make the next version a little more on par with the other consoles available
Whatever Nintendo chooses — please Nintendo, PLEASE don’t revert back to having 2 consoles in the same generation (one home console and one handheld). Even for people who treat the Switch as just a home console or just a handheld, they’re still benefiting from having all of Nintendo’s output and games on one system. It will be a HUGE regression if we go back to the days of the 3DS/Wii U, where one system received games while the other one floundered due to lack of support.
I could see them pursuing an upgrade to the Switch in the same way the 3DS was to the DS — another gimmick/new way to play but still keeping the trademark feature of the previous generation. But from here on out I hope they only make one console per generation — a home/handheld hybrid — or else it will be a clear regression no matter what new way to play they add in.
Nintendo showed already with the 3DS, that they will only do small upgrades, but develop for the smallest in power with it's sku, see the new 3rd and count the games that are exclusive for that particular So I version to see where the switch is headed.
The switch has other qualities and now has a big install base. I think the more obvious move for Nintendo might be to make the 3DS walk the plank and offer / port over some titles to this system.
I really love the Switch, is a perfect concept and a perfect fit for me, but I will keep following Nintendo whatever they do, just becouse they never disappoint me, even when I have doubts and when I am sceptic.
Now that there's a decent install base, a cut-down (i.e. cheaper) portable-only Switch would be a good idea. I for one only ever use it on the move. Digital downloads (like it or not) are taking over, so increased default memory would be a plus. Nintendo really needs to sort out on-line gaming as well.
Basically, just incremental improvements to the Switch, much like the yearly iPhone upgrades. I think it's got a life cycle of much more than five years.
I would like switch 2 in about 4 years. Basically more power and a bit of tweaking here and there. I don’t think that’s gonna happen though. They will probably surprise everyone like they usually do and I will probably be just as hyped as I usually am 😂
I can play at home...
I can play on the go...
I can play anytime, anywhere, with anyone...
...but I can't play whilst I'm ASLEEP! (not yet, anyway! )
Introducing: The Nintendo Dream Boy - play all the time, everywhere, with everyone!
Make it happen, Nintendo!
@TeslaChippie I was thinking the same. I’m sure Nintendo could optimize their design and performance but would a “ switch Pro” really be dramatically different to warrant an upgrade? And with software companies chugging out titles for new Xbox and PlayStation that are bound to happen soon will worthwhile 3rd party support continue?
@Anti-Matter they are not going third party after the success of Switch. it would be a dumb move for Nintendo to do it now. so i wouldn't worried to much about that yet.
i would like to see a Switch Pro in about 2021-2022 (since Switch will be 5 year old by 2022.) as for a successor, how can you make it better than the Switch? although if it's one thing, it's Nintendo bring some good ideas to the table for a worthy switch successor.
@NaviAndMii This is what we need next!
I would love to see the Switch concept continued in some fashion and possibly with, while not necessarily needed, a power upgrade. I also wouldn’t be opposed to an entirely new console with a new concept or gimmick, whatever you want to call ot
I still think Nintendo should make a handheld only console with games that are forwards compatible with the Switch. That would satisfy people who want a small, portable-only console without dividing Nintendo's games market since anybody who wants access to all the games will be able to play them on the Switch.
Nintendo may not interested right now due to prices, but I'm fairly certain the Switch's successors will have 4K and VR support.
Handheld-only and/or console-only Switch SKUs aren't happening anytime soon, if ever.
I think the switch will have a fairly long life span, like the 3DS Nintendo could very well be determined to keep it around for a solid decade!
I like the idea of eventual upgrades but keeping software compatible on older Switch systems. Every few years or so, upgrade to the latest model Switch. Eventually something totally new will have to take its place but I definitely think the Switch concept can more than sustain Nintendo and gamers alike over the course of a decade if upgrades are made.
All in all, as I'm not the biggest fan of the Switch (it's a good idea, it's got good games, but for some reason, I can't really find myself getting into it, which comes from the small controls in my part...even with a pro controller), I'd love to see them continue the system, but they'll probably do a new console in another 3 years from now. The system already has a massive amount of games, Smash and Mario Kart are already out, just waiting on a few more that seem to always make their way over to a new nintendo console (Animal Crossing, Pikmin, Yoshi and a Paper Mario)...also, even though nintendo doesn't compete with them, Microsoft and Sony are rumored to have their next consoles ready for 2020 or this year, which means, the indie developers will be cramming over to them, and depending on those two's graphics and capabilities, it could me a drought in games for the Switch, or we'll get those cheap indie games that started to pour out for the Wii U. Nintendo has some good games coming out this year, and they seem to be planning them out in good orders to not have a drought, but eventually, the system will look outdated, and eventually, it'll start to lose it's momentum, just like any other console does. I hope they do keep their next console the same, and keep it as a handheld/console, they seem to be doing it good now with almost all of their teams only working for one console, but for some reason, I honestly hope a new console comes from them in either 2021 or a little beyond. As for VR, as much as I love Sony's VR set (and yes, I felt like I was playing a nintendo game too with Astro Bot...truly amazing game none-the-less), I don't really want to see nintendo try it just yet, unless they do it something great. Every time I pick up sony's VR headset, I just imagine what Pikmin would look like with it, and Astro Bot really got me wondering more with it...plus, the possibilities of a Kirby or Mario title too that uses it, but I don't see nintendo trying it after the loss of the Virtual Boy. Right now, go for updated graphics, compete nintendo with the other consoles...you can definitely put Microsoft out of the console wars and give Sony a run for their money, but take your time with the next console and don't rush...get a good game line up (eh, I remember the Gamecube, N64 and even the Wii's line up...or even worse, the 3DS's line up) and do good!!!!!
" ..titles like Beat Saber and Astro Bot Rescue Mission – the latter of which looks, feels and plays like it came right out of Nintendo's Kyoto development labs"
Well, I don't agree with that at ALL. It looks decidedly plasticky and clinical, and has literally nothing of that Nintendo feel, which always oozes charm and causes an almost childlike pleasure. Even if I wouldn't have known that this was a Sony game, I would have easily recognized it as at least not being something made by Nintendo.
Now that I actually know that it is, it looks more like Sony trying to get that Nintendo feel and failing to do so...
But more on topic: personally, even though I'm absolutely in love with my Switch, I'd like Nintendo to stay Nintendo, and just come out with something that's completely new and will once again surprise and enthuse people. They thrive on innovation and delivering enjoyable experiences with that unique and specific Nintendo feel, and they should simply keep on doing that. And let's be honest: a Switch 2 wouldn't really be all that much of an innovative surprise, now would it?
@TeslaChippie indeed. At most, it would be more optimized both operational and in battery usage/battery life, but of course, they would not just add a better CPU, but also other improved components, so perhaps we should see it as the Switch version of the New 3DS, if Nintendo is truly planning to do this.
@Anti-Matter I don't think that will happen for many many long years and generations down the line. They have plenty of money to keep them going, it's just so long as the fanbase is still with them...if they had numerous consoles in a row that do as great as the Wii U did, then they'd probably think about it...literally, could you imagine how much money they could make out of selling just one of their IP characters?
We posters at NL probably got a Switch Year One if not Day One. But PLENTY of families around me are just got a Switch for the 2018 holidays. I'm just starting to see kids (other than my own) with Switches in the wild. So my hope is for Nintendo to GIVE IT TIME AND SUPPORT IN THE FORM OF BIG N AND AAA GAMES!! And fun new imaginative Joy Cons like those Game Cube ones the internet convinced us existed.
@TeslaChippie 'Cause it's the internet, and people think they can foretell the future. Oh, and technology is magic.
I hope the keep the switch concept and just tweak it a bit (power) for their next machine.
This article belongs to 2022.
To be honest I don't really want a new cycle of home consoles anywhere soon. Innovations are to be made within the games, not the hardware in my opinion.
With the pressure of the marked it would be better for the users if there was one console type that has a store/app from each of the big companies. (Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft)
It's weird to have this conversation when, for example, the home lights on the Joy-Con and on the Pro Controller aren't even being implemented yet. The only time I got to see them light up is when I connected them to my PC to use on Steam. (They have a nice hue, by the way.) xD
(And what about the USB 3.0 support? Whatever happened to that? It's not a big deal, per se, but it's...weird.)
I think Nintendo will stick with the Switch, but they will add some new touches into the mix.
It's honestly way to early to see where Nintendo will go. But I hope they keep the Switch going for a good few years with regular updates and amazing games.
According to a news article I read recently on some website (Nintendo Loaf or something like that), Nintendo will stop making home consoles and will focus on mobile gaming in the near future. Or maybe it was just fake news.
The real question is what is next for both Sony and Microsoft. Neither of the mid generation machine upgrades set the sales world on fire.
Honestly, the only thing that comes to mind is a major GPU upgrade - for instance the new NVIDIA raycasting compatible lighting chips. Very expensive and very power hungry.
They could also try a cloud based 3rd-pillar console ... Something much cheaper to produce.
As for Nintendo... This is just the beginning for hybrid consoles. Apart from the obvious iteration ... Would they introduce a 5G device sometime? A smaller switch that could double as a phone?
Are they more worried about pressure from mobile gaming, or other competitors?
Like I've said before, the concept behind their hardware is nearly perfect. I hope they just iterate on it from now on. Where they need to focus all their innovation now is software.
To be quite honest with you, I find this article and talking point to be the most inane thing I’ve read on this site...
The switch just finished being the most successful console of the year and Nintendo’s best work in over a decade . They are finally in the stronghold as the #1 console, after a decade of being behind Sony (And often Xbox), and you are pondering Nintendo’s next move???
I think you just didn’t have anything of true value to write about this early in the year so you conjured up this piece’s inspiration from out of nowhere (not in a positive sense), but I find it more troubling that your editor hit the submit button on this piece
The switch as another 5+ years of development, and we just saw them scratch the surface with LABO
So just relax and slow down, and let us enjoy 2019.....THX
What’s next after Switch? Switch 2? 🤔
Nothing. The graphics are about as good as they're ever going to get (the jump between hardware generations has gotten smaller and smaller every time, such that there's more difference between Gamecube and N64 than between Gamecube and Switch). There was a time when video games would hurt your eyes, they don't anymore. I would rather they just keep making good games and selling Switches until every household (and eventually every individual) has one, as they promised to do, than to have to buy another $400 box in another 5 years. They've finally gotten it right this time, and should be proud.
I can't help but think that anything other than just a more powerful Switch for the next console generation would be disappointing, the Switch to me is the evolution of portable and home console gaming and I can't see them topping it. I just want one that is more powerful with a nicer screen and better battery life, that's all.
I hope Nintendo doesn't ruin the perfect storm by dividing the userbase with another switch before its time. Let the current switch shine and let the software and the switch's unique hardware capabilities do the talking.
Nintendo knows they own some of the most beloved franchises and characters. They just need to continue flexing their first party muscles and keep delievering hits while also breaking new ground by exploring new experiences and characters as well as as taping into old characters and franchises.
Though unlikely imagine if they managed to nab exclusives like left 4 dead 3, half life 3, and Resident evil Outbreak 3 and took the extra step to make the exclusives unique by adding optional motion controls, hd rumble, and local wireless(and of course localsplitcreen).
There's still so much left for them to do and learn on the current switch before jumping into the next version too early like create fzero, animal crossing, pikmin, mother, golden sun, kid icarus, metroid, and star tropic sequels everyone has been dying to have.
"there's obviously a limit to how far the Switch can be pushed, both in technical terms and as a concept. Given that the Nvidia hardware inside the machine had already been available on the market for some time before Switch even launched, it's obvious that some kind of upgrade is required to ensure that the console can maintain pace with its rivals."
This is by no means a end to Switch upgrade. The smaller you put a bigger GPU inside the Switch Console there will be growing pains. You don't just slap a higher GPU Tegra X(what) and expect higher performance. This needs engineered cooling to coincide before a 4K or 1080p portable Switch can be had by the rest of us. I can wait until 2021 at least 5 year time table to decide. As I also doubt they will make one costing $400 that would be shooting themselves in the foot instead. I think they seen that in the xbox x1 and ps4 pro sales lag in comparisons to their lower version counterpart. But in the case of the Switch the portable nature has a great appeal to those on the go and then dock and keep playing. That isn't something to snicker at since the xbox and ps4 can't do.
I want Nintendo and NVidia to build on the Switch, like they built up the home console from the NES. So moar powah! Analogue triggers. Better analogue sticks. Oh...and bring back light gun games somehow. I'm really missing them.
If you leave it up to me, which is not realistically a grand idea but... lol, I would be fine with the Switch as is forever, but I know that the march of technology waits for no one. As I have already done with iterations with the Gameboy, DS, and 3DS lines, I've upgraded when the "jump" was significant and would do so again if the Switch were to show me that, mid-life upgrade or no. Power is a no brainer, whether we're talking CPU or GPU (don't care how unrealistic numbers like 30fps locked, 1080P portable/4K docked seems, I still WANT it), but little things like Bluetooth headphone capability and longer battery life can get my attention quickly for the oft talked up "Switch Pro".
The Switch so far has been that system that I've dreamed about since being a kid-- A single console I can play on the TV or anywhere. But on the subject of where the Switch goes from here... that's up to how well Cloud gaming takes over the Western world as it's starting to do now. After this next generation, we may no longer even HAVE the proverbial "console" as we know it. Fantastic, fascinating, and flabbergasting times we live in.
The Switch has not even begun to reach its true potential. The hybrid concept has been the best gaming innovation since the home console and I hope Nintendo runs with it indefinitely.
This system has the potential (and already is showcasing) to be the place that houses a vast library of gaming history...from Nintendo IPs past and present, to the retro additions I thought I'd never see on a Nintendo system (Final Fantasy series, Crash, etc), let alone the indie titles and system exclusives. Having those at your fingertips at all times is worth more than increased CPU, 4K, and the fetishization of tech specs. If there is one thing gaming history has taught us, it's that power does not equal quality or longevity (this is why we remember the Game Boy and not the Lynx).
Sony and Microsoft can keep the "streaming" model. Network throttling, constant connection required, no ownership of titles, indefinite dependency on their service, etc are only a few of issues plaguing that idea, which only benefits these corporations and ISPs.
Nintendo has many cards left to play on the Switch, including its legacy content, and I hope they continue to run with this system, which this article correctly observes, bridges their hardware and conceptual history in a brilliant way.
They must do something about legacy games!
@LilDoggo48 Your avatar's getting me all kinds of confused about myself
I had a friend this morning, who is by no stretch a gamer, tell me that she finally sees what all the positive buzz is about the Switch after playing Mario Odyssey for the first time.
The Switch is a great console with great games and great visibility. Nintendo would be very not smart to capitalize on that longer.
Why fix what's not broken? Sony and Microsoft have stuck with the same formula and have been successful in just upgrading their products and adding newer stronger faster tech! Nintendo has dominated for years in the handheld department but (arguably) since the n64 it has struggled to keep ahold of the console market. The switch does both sides so perfectly they'd honestly be fools to not use this going forward. Just upgrade the processor, graphics etc to play more demanding games in both handheld and docked modes, maybe some more functionality and aesthetic improvements and call it a day! Switch 2, Switch 3, Switch 3 S, Switch 3 S XS!
If the pattern holds, the next console won't be as successful as the Switch.
If people are really wanting to have this conversation less than 2 years into the Switch's life cycle, then they must already be getting bored with the Switch.
I told my wife we can have kids after the switch runs its course in the market so..........long live switch baby! 10 more years!!!!!!!
Nintendo make exclusive Nintendo games. And something to play them on. That something is a console which connects to a screen and has controls.
As long as Nintendo make exclusive games they will make something to play them on.
Nintendo's innovations can also be its Achilles heel, and that is the controller.
As long as we get a pro controller and a base console we will carry on playing Nintendo games. And a handheld device with built on controls and we can play on the go.
The Switch has become a hybrid console that favors the handheld side, leaving TV play wanting. Already I see the Switch as the new handheld device, but less portable than the 3ds. For third party games played on a TV in high end graphics, the PS5 will be the way to go.
Nintendos innovations like 3d are also it's Achilles heel. The only 3d games machine in the world and it looks like Nintendo are about to abandon it.
"The question that Nintendo has to answer next is how unique that approach will be when moving into the next hardware cycle; can Switch possibly sustain the company for the next decade, and if not, what comes after?"
I think they should keep the concept and IMPROVE it. Sony has done little to nothing in terms of HW innovation for 20 years, and still managed to sell 450 millions units.
Do the same Nintendo, but invest the SAME in your FP studios and SERVICES, like Sony did
It feels a bit early for this discussion, but I suppose there's nothing wrong with it.
Ibelieve the Switch fulfills quite an interesting niche and think that Nintendo should focus on churning out games and the occasional hardware upgrade/revision every once in awhile. I do think it was wise of them to merge their console/handheld divisions.
I think keep making more powerful Switch systems but have them be every 4-5 years rather than the theory some have about a Switch Pro in 2019.
More power. That is all
I’m happy with the Switch for the foreseeable future but I hope they stick with the hybrid formula with any new consoles.
@Mallow "Sony and Microsoft can keep the "streaming" model. Network throttling, constant connection required, no ownership of titles, indefinite dependency on their service, etc are only a few of issues plaguing that idea, which only benefits these corporations and ISPs."
Don't forget Steam isn't free you have to still buy the games. And like Steam/COG(if I got that right) are free but you still have to buy and then comes the ISP. ISP you must pay to have internet that's also not free and some are throttle if you exceed your allotment or they deem it necessary(very suspect here) to throttle your internet. And other things with Online Steam you need to be Online to game unlike the Switch the game is Digital downloaded or Physical and you can play anywhere and anytime without or without internet. And if you need internet most have SmartPhone that one can make into HotSpot to connect you Switch to update without problem. I've done that as a test and it works.
@Mallow "Nintendo has many cards left to play on the Switch, including its legacy content, and I hope they continue to run with this system, which this article correctly observes, bridges their hardware and conceptual history in a brilliant way."
Nintendo has always been to innovate outside the box(sarcasm)(pun). I think they thought long and hard to figure this one out as they most likely used the tech in the WiiU main controller with the portable nature of the 3DS XL as a bases to start with.
Stick with the Switch concept, it’s been proved that Nintendo can’t keep two systems going at once, Sony couldn’t manage two systems at once.
I can’t see no reason while Nintendo can’t keep refing the Switch concept and keep churning them out for generations to come.
@Farmboy74 "Stick with the Switch concept, it’s been proved that Nintendo can’t keep two systems going at once, Sony couldn’t manage two systems at once."
What are you ranting about they have two systems going and have no problems supporting them. Clearly someone drinking too much koolaid here.
@Farmboy74 "I can’t see no reason while Nintendo can’t keep refing the Switch concept and keep churning them out for generations to come."
What concept are we talking about they already have a production system called Nintendo Switch. Sounds like not much reading about the Switch but to much spouting of nonsense here.
I figure sooner or later we get someone Trolling when something is More Successful than the couch based consoles.
Nintendo will probably consolidate their handheld and home console line exclusively into hybrid consoles like the switch. The switch succeeded in large part because it doubled as a handheld - a market Nintendo has always been successful at.
Even if the Switch didn't connect to a TV it probably would've sold similarly, but the perception that the Switch is both a handheld and home console was very strategic. It allows the profitable DS line to finish its' natural life, justifies the price, and will benefit Nintendo later by attracting consumers from the handheld and home console markets before the differences are nominal.
We are no longer really seeing situations where games released on home consoles are not possible to port to handheld consoles - instead we are more often seeing situations where the framerate / resolution .etc are adjusted. Maybe Nintendo will bridge this gap some day, but in the meantime making the system smaller with a longer battery life and incremental improvements to the hardware will be their focus I think.
I think Nintendo's next console should just be a more powerful Switch (ala NES > SNES, N64 > GC). I don't think there should be any need to do anything particularly crazy or kooky (well I hope not anyway). Unlike the Wii and Wii U, the Switch isn't based on a gimmick whose novelty quickly wears off and just becomes an annoying burden, instead it's based on a gimmick that's actually very practical (thus isn't really going to wear off).
And also, while I could see some sort of Switch Pro at some point within this generation, I don't think the Switch necessarily needs to worry too much about its power being cutting-edge because it was never cutting-edge in the first place. That was never its appeal.
A lot of rubbish written here. Furukawa never said Nintendo will become a software-only company, he was pushed in the interview to say that "maybe" in the future, console manufacturing will not be Nintendo's main business. I don't think we can consider the PSVR a complete success, when you have 3 million units sold, in a market that has already almost 100 million PS4's out there, VR is still expensive to produce and to sell. And streaming it's still light years ahead, companies wants us to think that's the way it should go, but not even in the US streaming for games is stable, there's always lag, and do you believe the experience with online games will improve with streaming? The Switch will last for 10 years,no revisions at all.
The Switch is perfect imo.
The easiest and best thing they could do is keep releasing a new Switch SKU around the time a new generation launches to keep up somewhat in parity with the Stronger consoles.
This is Nintendo though and I doubt it will
Switch is too good to pass over next generation.
I suspect they’ll continue to innovate, but not at the expense of Switch. It will stick around and a backbone and pillar of stability, while they branch out into something new on the side.
The idea that it's too soon for this conversation is interesting when Nintendo has probably had people working on ideas for a successor six months after the thing came out or less. No rest in the industry as they say.
Since Nintendo seems to start with the gimmick, (my lord, how many times did I hear them pump up the joy-con aspect of this blasted thing rather than the actual games), I see suggestions of VR as not quite tech plausible yet to make really good games but if I could come up with the next clever gimmick I would probably be working for one of these companies I dunno.
Just a correction, that should be ‘with slick 2D visuals giving way to crude 3D graphics...’ 😉
In the future no one makes console anymore, only then will Nintendo create a proper console with high end specs because: blah blah blue ocean strategy.
They don't need to call it a Switch, and they can add different functions to it, but they're fools if they move away from the hybrid concept. There's no closing this box now that they've opened it.
I like the Switch as it is and would like for Nintendo to keep it alive and strong for as long as possible.
Just add some QOL improvements and some modest power bump (nothing that could split the user base but could make games run better for those who have the newest hardware) and I’ll be fine for years to come.
I’m not as obsessed with graphics as most of the PS and Xbox crowd seems to be (gameplay over graphics any day) so 4K and all that mumbo-jumbo doesn’t mean much in my view. Keep making great games and everything will be just fine.
Literally been out for two years we serious right now?
I just want them to improve the existing console with qol updates not a completely new system
I remember when life was about enjoying what you had and being appreciative of the experiences and memories you were making. Can't we just enjoy the Switch right now without worrying about what's next? It's not even two years into it's life cycle.
If history tells us anything then the next system will just be an upgrade of the Switch:
NES - SNES
N64 - GameCube
Wii - Wii U
Based on the Switch's success I can't see Nintendo wanting to change things too much anyway for the next system.
My wish is that Nintendo continues with the Switch for the foreseeable future. Unlike the Wii, the Switch concept is very useful and not just a gimmick. There are a lot of people, like myself, who just don't have the time to be tethered to their living room television for gaming. I love to game on a TV when I have a chance, but I do about two thirds of my gaming portably. Technology is moving toward being more and more mobile. It only makes sense that gaming makes the same transition.
I would like to see Switch upgrade every three years. That's about how long a lithium ion battery lasts, so it makes sense. Each new Switch should be fully backwards compatible and Nintendo should even consider keeping the core tablet the same dimensions and compatible with both the joycon and dock. They could even offer the option of upgrading the tablet alone to encourage upgrading.
I would love to see Nintendo make a smart phone, a slider with controls perhaps have a stereoscopic 3D optional screen like my beloved 3DS or I would love a new 3DS model with new updated specs all around. I love the clam shell design of 3DS, the two screens, the 3D effect which is phenomenal I'm a super fan of the stereoscopic 3D I even like the touch screen on the bottom . A new successor to the 3DS would be a fantastic thing in my opinion though I do believe the chance of that at this point is most definitely slim to none do to the nature of the Switch and I like my Switch but it's no 3DS by any means in my opinion .
i think they should stick with the same design for the next successor with dock mode for tv play but also make it alittle bit more powerful as well.
Nintendo had the right idea with the Wii and DS, and learned the hard way not to fix what isn't broken. And Sony proved you can release a more powerful version of a system without fracturing the market, games can be made in such a way to take advantage of extra power if it is there. PC gaming has been doing that since the 1980s.
Thus I think the best route Nintendo could take would be to retain the Switch, but with a better, newer chip, a screen that uses all the real estate right up to the edges, plays portable games as well as docked in 1080p, retains full compatibility with all Switch hardware, has at east 128GB internal storage out of the box, supports Bluetooth headphones and has at least 8-10 hours of battery life. And I would also add a second SD card slot, and move both SD card slots to the top of the console, alongside the game card slot.
Also Switch consoles should come with the Joy-con grip that has a charging port. Seriously.
I'd like to see them evolve the design of the Switch. The Switch's form factor is extremely versatile and future proof to the point where I don't want them to reinvent the wheel for a while. At the same time though, I also don't want to see them simply give us the same thing but with higher specs. Instead, they should add new features and gimmicks onto it. One big idea I had was maybe they could make the successor a clamshell design again, but in addition to being able to fold the screens, they could completely detach so that you can have a touch screen in docked mode or a friend could have their own screen while playing multiplayer. Beyond that, adding things like VR and scroll wheels would be the kind of improvements I'd look for. And maybe if they're really worried about consoles dying they could make a smartphone with that form factor.
I think Nintendo found its thing with the hybrid. So I hope its just another Switch after Switch.
Make a duel screen Switch with 3D capabilities. Call it the 3DSwitch.
@Romeo-75 "I would love to see Nintendo make a smart phone, a slider with controls perhaps have a stereoscopic 3D optional screen like my beloved 3DS or I would love a new 3DS model with new updated specs all around."
This is not going to happen regardless of what you want. The market has way to many SmartPhone already. You want to the go bankrupt don't you. That the only logical conclusion here. The New 3DS XL might've hit the peak in it's evolution unless Nintendo comes up with a New 4DS XL that sounds like the most plausible case. But your fascination with SmartPhone clearly shows the reason your not part of their R&D team.
@ryando "Make a duel screen Switch with 3D capabilities. Call it the 3DSwitch."
That's a possible revolution of the Display but that won't come that soon. But there will no dual screen the screen itself will be 3D display.
The way Nintendo is going is most likely going to follow the Switch evolution as this point since they found this innovation is a hot seller consider the portable gaming community want's untethered from their couch.
I'd like to see Nintendo continue on with the hybrid plan. They've always been the king of handheld gaming so bringing that success and using it to reinvigorate their console lineup worked and still works great. Perhaps call it the Switch 2, I don't know. I just know I don't want to go back to my Nintendo games being home locked again after this. Still, we have some time before we actually have to start thinking about this.
The Switch will be a 10 year system. Nintendo have found a new market, and will own it. Novelty won't wear off because, fundamentally, the Switch is a normal gaming machine. No gimmicks like waggle controls defining the system, so if any novelty wears off, it will be gaming itself that dies. I don't see this happening either. Obviously, the portable nature of the Switch means it won't be affected by any move to streaming games, so it will continue to own its segment of the market.
The only question is the iterations that will arrive. We already suspect heavily the 3DS will be replaced by a fixed Switch (integrated controls without the fancy tech) and likely a basic update of the standard Switch with better battery, screen, storage and design tweaks (notably to fix the flimsy kickstand). As to something more powerful, that's at least 3 years away, possible up to 5, and games will still be compatible across all iterations. Possibly Nintendo will release the base console (CPU and screen) for an easy and cheap upgrade. That's another design bonus of the system!
My guess is the New 3DS XL will have a revision since there are plenty of games still out there for it and for them to lose that market is a bad move to forget that. As I mentioned other post until they came out and announced no more 3DS family console then will know if another system will come to replace it or not. But I think once the Switch gets situated they will continue support for games on the 3DS but as of now Switch is the hot brand to go to.
@redd214 yes. If the next console isn't "Switch 2" I'm going to be incredibly disappointed. At least initially. I just want them to stick to this concept because it works so damn well.
@Thesharkfromjaws my thoughts exactly!
GameCube was just as much a costly failure as well. If it weren't for the strong GBA and DS titles, more would view it as the failure it was. It's also funny how one-sided articles about Wii U are, and they totally ignore facts. https://www.dailygadgetry.com/wii-u-finally-profitable-nintendo/4637
Whatever the next step after the Switch is, I think they should stick with the hybrid console concept. Going back to having a console exclusively tethered to a TV would feel like a step back(for me at least).
I've become more of a handheld gamer over the last 7 years or so. The pick up and play nature of the systems just makes everything more convenient. And it's great for the occasional power outages.
@SwitchForce, My fascination with the smartphone clearly shows why I'm not part of their R&D team ., Thats uncalled for are you the head expert at the R&D department ? LoL
@Romeo-75 that's the best a Troll can do. Might want to try harder.
I want a more powerful sku
I want to know more about the announced first party titles
I want SNES, N64 AND GCN games available in their online service.
@SwitchForce, You do understand what the concept and meaning of the phrase "internet troll" is right ? Hahaha . You are funny.
@Hikingguy couldn’t agree more
Ideally, all future Nintendo platforms should be console/handheld hybrids (i.e. tablet base + TV-dock + set of detachable controllers), with other innovations/gimmicks being sold as accessories (VR support? Non-traditional JoyCons?) rather than becoming the core selling point of the product.
The Gamepad being the core selling point of the Wii U (as well as its piss-poor marketing) ensured that it would never find success. The Kinect being a mandatory purchase with the Xbox One during its first few months stunted its initial growth.
On the other hand, Labo not taking off like Nintendogs/Brain Age/Wii Sports/Wii Fit didn't hurt the Switch, and the PSVR not taking off like the original Kinect/PS Move didn't hurt the PS4.
With PS and Xbox both doing pro versions, my guess is Nintendo won’t. They’re not into copying the competition.
I reckon they’ll bring out a new Switch in two years - it’ll have a major performance upgrade, a slight design tweak, and will be backwards compatible. Anything sooner leads to buyer remorse for early adopters, and later rules them out of the latest ports. And knowing Nintendo, it’ll be a marketing nightmare once they decide on the name ... SwitchU
First thing, I'm a old school guy so #£&@ Off "streaming only" future games. I like to Own what I purchased.
Second, I want to see how good the new Fire Emblem is, I need to see some gameplay for the new Metroid... I NEED a new mainline Zelda game.
There is so many new games coming, and this little guy (N Switch) is barely 2 years old to be thinking about his successor.
Thinking about the future is nice, but always keep the present in sight.
They just started to recreate masterpieces on quite arguably the greatest console of all time .... no reason for anything but desired future software masterpiece and new hardware accessories to compete or extend AR/VR games
Switch has more potential and a lot more power than most people are aware of
If they release a mid-generation version, I hope they don't follow Sony and Microsoft's current, slightly pretentious naming ideas of 'Pro' and 'X'. Go back to the glory days of NES and SNES and call it the 'Super Switch'!
Seriously, they should wait to offer a new version until they can provide a significant leap in performance for the same price. And by performance I mean battery life, passive cooling, sharper screen, that sort of thing. Full compatibility with the standard Switch, just boosted frame-rates and resolution on the Super Switch. (I'll keep calling it that until it catches on...) Put some extra processing power in the dock, so docked performance is a properly different experience. And use the great Wii U concept of a battery we can replace ourselves instead of the whole system being obsolete when the sealed-in one conks out.
Nintendo has created a marketplace for indie Devs that is without rival, they are shifting embarrassing numbers of quality 3rd party games on the switch compared to Sony, steam and Microsoft. PC gaming is up the proverbial creek due to nvidias greed and only Nintendo innovates. What they do need is a streaming service for legacy Nintendo classics from nes up to GameCube and a stable platform for continued new releases going forward. I would pay a nintyflix sub if they had a deep library of great 1st and importantly 3rd party classics, like Faxanadu. Gee Gimmie Faxanadu and wizards and warriors 3 down a HDMI cord already!
Don't keep the Switch going, just leave it and move onto new.
Just a box with way more power so we can have non watered down ports, more stuff can be done in games and make it cool lol
A GameCube 2...
@Aozz101x Not that I think they will, and I hope that they don't, but it isn't stupid for them to do that. Go out on top. If they have a lot in the bank it gives them more freedom as a third party as opposed to what happened with Sega. Recent interviews with the new president and Reggie show they only care about the money, so it is possible if the money is right.
@Heavyarms55 charging grip only really makes sense if you buy a second set. Don't get me wrong, I bought one, but that's because back then I kept the console in a case all the time, even docked. Normally you just attach your joycons to the system. But then again it cant cost that much to just put a usb port in it.
@Trajan Naw, even with only the one set. If you are sitting at home and didn't realize he battery was low, you'd be forced to play in handhald mode. While I consider the ability to do that to be a good thing, no a fantastic, core feature even, that doesn't change the fact that if I am sitting in my chair in front of my TV, I probably am gonna prefer to play on the TV, and any other controller could be plugged in to charge while playing. But with the current Switch, you'd not be able to do that.
It is a minor detail, but it is also a minor fix. How much more could the grip with the USB-C plug be than the one without? The one without still has the little LEDs that indicate which player the controller is. It'd be different if it were just some piece of plastic.
@redd214 Exactly. The portability is great. I really don't care about graphics since I feel the PS4 is fine (how much pixel perfect do we really need to get people?), Nintendo makes great games, 3rd party developers are getting on board. Just give me playable games that are fun.
This article has a really poor technical background.
Why would a 1080p screen be an easy win? Besides that you could argue whether there is much of a perceivable difference between a 6 inch 720p or 1080p screen, Nintendo's problem is power consumption.
They have to clock the SoC way down in handheld mode because otherwise the battery won't last long enough. So slapping a 1080p screen in there isn't going to make any difference.
Reworking the SoC so it can be produced on a smaller, more power efficient process is unlikely as well as the cost most likely won't outweigh the benefits.
Another poor suggestion is that they could do yearly refreshes same as Apple. Difference is Apple sells ~250 million devices a year at premium prices. SoC and product development is very expensive. Apple has the cash for that but even in the best of years a console will struggle to sell 20 million. That simply isn't enough to warrant such investments. Not to mention fragmenting your user base is not a good idea. Consumers won't like it and neither will devs. They have to deal with it on mobile devices but it just doesn't make sense for a dedicated gaming device.
The reality is that there isn't much Nintendo can do at the moment. There isn't anything mobile out there that is going to be close to the next gen consoles making a handheld that can run those games in some form is a pipe dream for the next couple of year so that is one reason a revision with better hardware doesn't make much sense at the moment.
Secondly Nvidia doesn't have anything much better than Tegra either at the moment. Whoever says X2, that by now is a 3 year old chip. Nvidia is heavily invested in the automotive sector so they don't have anything small, cheap and efficient that would work for Nintendo at the moment.
Hopefully Nintendo will keep doing well and then they can commission Nvidia to do a semi-custom chip for a Switch 2.0 that has enough power to run downgraded next gen games 1 ~ 2 years after those consoles are released.
Before that I won't hold out for must of an upgrade on the SoC side. If Nintendo wants to do a refresh it would make much more sense to do things such as a bigger battery or larger screen. Both seem to easily fit in the existing chassis. And OLED screen to decrease battery usage a bit or maybe a glass screen or aluminum body.
@Ryu_Niiyama But rumors going that PS5 will be released in 2020. I doubt Ninteno will stick to Switch much longer...
Keep the switch with massive upgrades. Switch Pro, better RAM better Nvidia tegra chip, more memory space etc to keep up with the others.
I am still waiting for the NX
Ain't it a bit early to be talking about this?
@Romeo-75 you are the definition of a Troll. Your also funny yourself might want to become a comedian instead of posting.
@Heavyarms55 Actually thr charging grip only has one led which is next to the USB c port to indicate it is charging. The player number is just plastic tubes that transfer light from the sides of the joy cons.
Selfishly, I want them to make the next console(s) able to play current Switch games. Replace the 3DS with a smaller, portable only system that can play Switch games (obviously can't call it a Switch) in the next year or so. Then, a few years after that, a Switch-Pro with a glass 1080 screen, better processor, etc., but still able to play current Switch games and current Switches being able to play Switch Pro era games, a la Xbox One and One X. That's what I want.
What they'll probably do is stop building hardware. Once game streaming is good enough, that's what people will do. Spotify isn't really as good as CDs (and CDs aren't really as good as vinyl), but it's good enough and more convenient. Same with DVDs vs. Netflix. Games will go that direction too. Once people can stream games reliably, it's probably over for consoles, not just Nintendo's.
@Trajan Oh is that how it works? I never opened one up to see. A creative solution.
@SwitchForce Smart device doesn't have to be a phone though one would be neat.
That said, how about a Multi-Reality enabled 4DS that can be mounted on your head to become a VR device?
This 4DS device can also be taken with you as a handheld and also connect to a 4k Home Console working as a controller or a VR device if you so choose.
The 4k Home Console can also steam to the device making it essentially like a Wii U gamepad.
The previous sounds like a Nintendo type of innovation and the latter sounds like some sort of complete package.
I wouldn't bet on Nintendo doing a 4DS Smart device though I can get where @Romeo-75 is coming from.
A 4DS smart device would put them into another league of their own and would essentially be putting them in competition with Apple.
As an entertainment device, Nintendo competes for our time and as much as they won't admit it I and many others consider the Switch a competitor to the iPad.
They might not have productive apps nor a large app store but the aim of the Switch is to replace the iPad as the all-in-wonder entertainment hub...Netflix, we're still waiting for you.
A lot of people are saying the Switch is really "lacking" in some features and that further versions or updates will add these features.
So I wouldn't rule a 4DS that did the same thing out of the picture. Nintendo has the money to step-up its game and actually make a smart device.
They would also be wise to do so as the smart device area is a lot larger then their current state of affairs and we know Nintendo goes with the money.
Their recent statement about potentially leaving the home console market behind proves this. I think what he meant was that they would consider making more smart phone games as the market is larger and then roll out a device that fit into that mold.
Nintendo is not only a content provider but also a hardware maker.
They ARE partly the ones pushing for a streaming future with the whole Cloud-based only Japanese games.
I think the Switch will stand the test of time and sell more then people realise it.
I might be optimistic but depending on their games and list of surprises, I suspect their aim this year is 30-50 million (so 40 million) Switches for the FY of 2019, essentially doubling their install base.
2020 will continue this momentum setting them to overtake the Wii. What remains after that is unknown but basically the Switch has become mainstream by then and it all depends on what Nintendo can pull off.
Some people say that is the beginning of the end, it had a 4 year run by then and will go on the decline but the PlayStation 4 proves that isn't necessarily the case. If they can do it, so can Nintendo.
If Nintendo does this right, the Switch at least is here to stay.
There are so many possibilities with the Switch I don't think they are going to abandon it any time soon.
Home Console that Steam to the Switch (essentially making the Switch like a Wii U gamepad.)
Cloud-based and streaming games.
And so on.
Then there's also the chance that they might do a 4DS smart device sequel depending on how things go for them.
Remember that sales is also relative.
To Apple, 150 million sales is BAD. To Nintendo, 150 million sales is their dreams.
R&D costs are similarly reflected by this.
If Wii U can produce Miiverse, I'm sure Nintendo has the money to produce a sequel to the Switch that might be able to take them to a whole new level.
I think Nintendo serves a different sort of market one that is potentially growing by the numbers.
You might not make that comparison but I kind of compare the iPad to the Switch especially since I own both.
Apple might have a big app store filled with productive apps that the Switch lacks but how many people that have owned an iPad uses it for anything other then Netflix?
I rarely even browse the web these days let alone on a 6" device.
I've since donated my iPad to my mum, have even BEFORE the Switch came out and essentially, Nintendo has taken up remaining free my time when it comes to entertainment.
Meanwhile the Surface Pad is just WAY too expensive for most. Its a real commitment.
In that instance, Nintendo is winning and will continue to win.
The point is that the Switch has immense potential and most essentially is buying Nintendo time.
If by some miracle, in ten years, physical games moves on like CDs have, the Switch will still be around to stream games to it. Meanwhile the laggers will still be buying physical cartridges like CD are still doing the rounds.
They have a deal with nVidia for 20 years for a reason.
@nopowerinthevers I see what you did there.
Tbh, I think the only one to lose out in the console race will be Nintendo but even then we're been here before.
Microsoft is a software giant and they want to provide Windows (and Office) to everyone via every device. Not an easy feat and going to cost them a lot of money but they have it to burn. They are also in a strong position because of Windows even if PCs are on a decline.
Sony has no need to stay in consoles and is safe if something happens to it. If it crashed tomorrow they can just make TVs that stream games directly to it so I think they are the console market leader for a reason. Its a Blue Ocean Strategy thing, easy money for thinking different.
Nintendo meanwhile is in a risky position. The Switch is set to succeed but again they have shot themselves in the foot. Are they going to abandon Dual-Screen and Asymmetric Gameplay in favour of a more lasting device? Are they going to make this lasting device more lasting or are they going to iterate like a mad man?
I'm getting real sick of constant console revisions all in the span of one generation. New hardware comes out all the time, yes, but I don't want to have to buy a new console every single time. Imagine if PC gaming was like that; instead of just buying a new graphics card, you had to buy an entirely new computer every 4 or 5 years.
If Nintendo steps out of the hardware game, the Switch will likely be the last console I ever own. Microsoft has completely forgotten how to bring worthwhile exclusives to their system, and Sony's new attitude toward censorship is worrying.
Faaaaar to early for that. The Switch will be around for at least a couple more years.
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