You should include Sonic Frontiers on this list. I get your '6/10' rule, but considering the recent site reading rankings of the sonic games suggests your readers feel very differently than the reviewer did on that game.
It really depends on how much I paid for it, and if I will replay it or not. If I paid $5 and got 2-3 hours out of it, I'm happy and wouldn't feel like the game was 'too short'. However, if I paid $60 and only got 2-3 hours out of it, then, yes, the game is too short.
However, if a game is 2-3 hours long, but I really like it and I replay several times, then it is fine.
@Bryon15 As the IP owner, Bandai Namco can do whatever they want and Monolith doesn't get a say. Most likely Bandai Namco would have another studio develop it. However, if a hypothetical new game would be a switch exclusive, then Monolith could develop it.
@The-Chosen-one Did you ever play Punch-out Wii? Very solid and fun game. My only compliant was that it was more of a remake of the NES and SNES Punch-out games.
@ThanosReXXX I have never understood this line of thinking. There are lots of reasons to move on from a job/employer you like working for. More money, better benefits, new job is in a better location, spouse got a job elsewhere in the country, 'dream job' opened up, or even just ready for a new challenge.
@wollywoo There is evidence in some of the released artwork that a fifth guardian was planned, possibly an aquatic one. Considering the town and how empty the Southeast corner is, it is a good bet you are correct.
@AtlanteanMan Even if both Metroid Prime 4 and BOTW 2 came out next year (possible for BOTW 2, unlikely for MP 4), it would not be anywhere near the biggest year for Nintendo. The launch year of the Switch had Odyssey (around 14 million), BOTW (around 12.5 million), and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (around 16.5 million). That triple punch will be hard to beat.
Contrary to the belief of many, Metroid does not sell a lot of units. The highest selling Metroid of all was the first Metroid Prime on the Gamecube with 2.8 million units. Zelda, while selling well, is also not the heavy hitter that 2D Mario or Pokemon is. The biggest Zelda title is BOTW at around 12.5 million (I think it is over 13.5 million once you consider the Wii U version). The best selling Zelda title sold about as much as the worse selling Pokemon games.
Frankly, the Pokemon games coming this year will be bigger than BOTW 2 and MP 4 combined.
@ReaderRagfihs No. I wish it was. Obviously, actual court proceedings are nothing like what you see on games and TV. Several parts are rather boring and tedious, actually.
@waluigifan1 I wish people would stop claiming Metroid is a system seller and 'needed' to sell the switch and blah, blah, blah....
Metroid has never been a system seller. The best selling Metroid game is Metroid Prime which sold 2.8 million (on the Gamecube). Looking at the Wii, Metroid Prime 3 sold 1.79 million units (note-- MP3 is the third best selling Metroid Game). Whereas the following Lego games on the Wii outsold it (and I am only using sale figures from the Wii versions): Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga, Lego Batman, Lego Harry Potter: Years 1-4, and Lego Indiana Jones.
Honorable mention: Lego Star Wars: Episode 3 tied the sales numbers of Metroid Prime 3.
So unless multi-platform licensed Lego games are also system sellers, Metroid is certainty not a system seller.
@NintyNate Metroid has never been a big seller (for a Nintendo franchise). The highest selling game was Metroid Prime on the Gamecube and sold 2.8 million. The worse selling Super Smash Bros. game was on the Wii U and that sold a little over 5 million (not including digital sales).
Put into perspective, the best selling Metroid game sold about half what the WORSE selling Super Smash Bros. game sold. Super Smash Bros. shifts units, Metroid does not.
@Tsurii I thought I was the only one that thought that. In fact, 'incredibly average' is more praise than I would give it. I thought it was horrible-- lots of blood and swearing doesn't make a series good.
@ramu-chan You completely ignored US taxes. One of the reasons I dislike such comparisons-- our European friends conveniently forget to take the fact that one price includes tax and the other does not.
As such, your comparison and criticism are invalid.
@johnvboy Thank you for pointing this out-- I see the claim that Metroid (Metroid Prime 4 recently) will move some consoles. I have decided that the 'gaming journalists' and a vocal minority online don't realize that Metroid is not a big seller, never has been. But in their little world Metroid is a system seller (which it isn't) just because they like it.
I wish it was a huge seller, I love Metroid (especially the Prime games), but I also know that they don't sell much. I know that each Metroid game released could potentially be the last game due to somewhat low sales.
@OnBeingHuman @Franklin It is a little more than nothing, they are fun to play around with for starters. Some of the conversations with Luigi and Bowser change depending on the conversation.
In the game some of the outfits are required to unlock levels and areas. However, I find several of the outfits fun to play around with. And considering the point of games are to have fun, I find them to have some value.
@Ralizah True, but such a list would be unpractical and time consuming for almost no benefit. There are over 100 games across 3 consoles on sale right now. Some weeks (especially in the latter Wii U days) there were a few hundred titles on sale at any given time.
If they did what you are asking, these posts would just be a list of hundred (or more) games that most people don't care about. The link is there for anybody interested, and is a much better option.
This site generally reports when some noteworthy publishers have sales, so they have found a happy medium.
@Jayvir @Rika_Yoshitake Jayvir-- I had to laugh when you said alpha/beta males don't exist. If you weren't kidding, then I must commend you for showing everyone else what a beta male sounds like.
@StarSurfer Development could have started during E3, it could have been in development for the past 10 years. We don't know when it started-- we don't even know who the developer is.
It could possibly have been developed (and finished) for the Wii U, and Nintendo is just working on porting it over to the Switch (unlikely, but possible).
@manu0 Concerning translations-- they can't just ask anybody if the translation is fine. Legally, businesses have to pay people who provide services to them. Translations would fall under this-- it is one of the reasons websites use google and such to translate such things.
@SirRandall it would actually be the other way around. I have used both Android and apple products. Android devices, if you get it from a decent manufacturer, beats Apple any day. Any feature on an Apple device or phone can be found cheaper (and usually better) on an Android device. Plus, I can expand the memory on my Android devices, which I couldn't do on my Apple devices.
Apple is better in that I can buy an Apple product and not worry about the quality. When buying an Android device one has to be very careful and make sure they are buying a quality product. Lots of crappy Android devices on the market.
@AcesHigh
You are incorrect (in the US at least, I can't speak to other countries or specialty markets, which Video Games are not a specialty market). Producers can not dictate to retailers how they sell their product. If Walmart, target, etc. wants to offer preorders there is nothing that can be done about that. Producers can't refuse to sell to retailers due to such things (runs afoul of antitrust laws). Reread my post-- Nintendo generally sells to big distributors and they sell to the retailers-- Nintendo can't tell the distributors not to sell to any given retailer. Again, Nintendo got themselves in legal trouble back in the 1980s and 1990s for similar practices.
You are also incorrect that contracts can be broken with no legal recourse. That is what the courts are for in the US-- contracts (despite what some may claim about having 'good lawyers') are incredibly hard to break.
edit: here is a link to an article from 1991where Nintendo settled their price fixing case (Nintendo told retailers what price they would sell things at, and Nintendo would refuse to ship product to any retailer who refused to go along with it-- exactly what AcesHigh and others are claiming Nintendo has a right to do which they don't in the US): http://www.nytimes(dot)com/1991/04/11/business/nintendo-to-pay-25-million-in-rebates-on-price-fixing(dot)html
@AcesHigh Actually, Nintendo can not dictate things like no preorders, or that retailers only sell one per customer in the USA. Nintendo got themselves into legal trouble in the 1980s and 1990s for similar practices. Dictating such terms to retailers is illegal in the United States.
Besides, Nintendo does not sell directly to retailers (usually). They sell to large distributors, and those distributors sell the product to retailers.
@sdelfin Nintendo has no say in if a company offers preorders or not in the USA. It is illegal for Nintendo to tell/force companies not to offer preorders, or even how much to sell their products for (MSRP is just the suggested price, retailers can sell the products for any price they want).
Most likely the reason for preorders not occurring is that it is unclear how much stock will be available, or the FCC hasn't finished testing it.
@uel, those cutscenes were horrible! I actually do not replay this game because of those cutscenes (I hate watching most cutscenes, but Sunshines were really bad).
If they would get rid of the cutscenes (or at least make them so that I can skip them), get rid of the blue coins (those were boring and horrible to collect), and increased the number of fludd-less levels (and let me replay them without Fludd), this would have been a 10/10 game.
It is still a good game, but I feel that Sunshine is the weakest of the Mario games. It almost feels like SMB2, in that it was originally another game and Mario characters were inserted later.
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Re: Review: Pokémon Legends: Z-A - Nintendo Switch 2 Edition - Stellar Battles, But A Step Down From Arceus
@roy130390 I use to say that as well, but such statements ignore reality. In reality, sales is the ONLY objective measure of a game's quality.
Re: Review: Mario + Rabbids Sparks Of Hope: Rayman In The Phantom Show - Enjoyable And Brisk But Rayman Deserves Better
This review was either plagiarized or is the victim of plagiarism:
https://gameishard.gg/news/review-mario-rabbids-sparks-of-hope-rayman-in-the-phantom-show-enjoyable-and-brisk-but-rayman-deserves-better/76387/#:~:text=Ultimately%2C%20Rayman%20in%20the%20Phantom,recycles%20old%20enemies%20and%20encounters.
Re: Poll: Rate Your Favourite Switch Games Of The Year 2022
You should include Sonic Frontiers on this list. I get your '6/10' rule, but considering the recent site reading rankings of the sonic games suggests your readers feel very differently than the reviewer did on that game.
Re: Talking Point: How Many Hours Is A 'Short' Game For You?
It really depends on how much I paid for it, and if I will replay it or not. If I paid $5 and got 2-3 hours out of it, I'm happy and wouldn't feel like the game was 'too short'. However, if I paid $60 and only got 2-3 hours out of it, then, yes, the game is too short.
However, if a game is 2-3 hours long, but I really like it and I replay several times, then it is fine.
Re: Bandai Namco Just Registered Trademarks For The GameCube Exclusive Series Baten Kaitos
@Bryon15
As the IP owner, Bandai Namco can do whatever they want and Monolith doesn't get a say. Most likely Bandai Namco would have another studio develop it. However, if a hypothetical new game would be a switch exclusive, then Monolith could develop it.
Re: For The First Time, A Super Nintendo World Promo Image Has Teased A Non-Mario Franchise
Obviously this means only one thing......Pikmin 4 confirmed in 2021!
Re: Poll: Rate Your Favourite Nintendo Switch Online SNES Games
@The-Chosen-one Did you ever play Punch-out Wii? Very solid and fun game. My only compliant was that it was more of a remake of the NES and SNES Punch-out games.
Re: Gallery: New Screens Show Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition's Gorgeous Environments
@Savino Xenoblade chronicles 2 is a great game, you should pick it up. I haven't played the first one, but 2 is in my top 10 games.
Re: Fitness Fanatics Are Now Paying Ridiculous Prices Online For Ring Fit Adventure
@Investor9872 Nintendo has no control over how many things people buy. Only the store can put those limits on their customers.
Re: Nintendo's Lead Localisation Producer Leaves The Treehouse After "10 Incredible Years"
@ThanosReXXX I have never understood this line of thinking. There are lots of reasons to move on from a job/employer you like working for. More money, better benefits, new job is in a better location, spouse got a job elsewhere in the country, 'dream job' opened up, or even just ready for a new challenge.
Re: Random: Zelda: Wind Waker's Outset Island Is Apparently In Breath Of The Wild
@wollywoo There is evidence in some of the released artwork that a fifth guardian was planned, possibly an aquatic one. Considering the town and how empty the Southeast corner is, it is a good bet you are correct.
Re: A Full Sequel To The Legend Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild Is Now In Development
@AtlanteanMan Even if both Metroid Prime 4 and BOTW 2 came out next year (possible for BOTW 2, unlikely for MP 4), it would not be anywhere near the biggest year for Nintendo. The launch year of the Switch had Odyssey (around 14 million), BOTW (around 12.5 million), and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (around 16.5 million). That triple punch will be hard to beat.
Contrary to the belief of many, Metroid does not sell a lot of units. The highest selling Metroid of all was the first Metroid Prime on the Gamecube with 2.8 million units. Zelda, while selling well, is also not the heavy hitter that 2D Mario or Pokemon is. The biggest Zelda title is BOTW at around 12.5 million (I think it is over 13.5 million once you consider the Wii U version). The best selling Zelda title sold about as much as the worse selling Pokemon games.
Frankly, the Pokemon games coming this year will be bigger than BOTW 2 and MP 4 combined.
Re: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trilogy Switch eShop Listing Reveals April Release
@ReaderRagfihs No. I wish it was. Obviously, actual court proceedings are nothing like what you see on games and TV. Several parts are rather boring and tedious, actually.
Re: Pokémon: Let's Go Sales Hit 1.5 Million In US Alone, Super Mario Party Surpasses 1 Million
@jockmahon I have a hard time believing you follow Nintendo closely. 8 million switches is not the worldwide number, it is indeed the US only number.
In the last quarterly report (quarter ended September 30, 2018) Nintendo announced they had sold 22.86 million Switch units world wide.
Re: Analysts Believe Nintendo Will Fall Short Of Its Target To Ship 38 Million Switch By March 2019
@waluigifan1 I wish people would stop claiming Metroid is a system seller and 'needed' to sell the switch and blah, blah, blah....
Metroid has never been a system seller. The best selling Metroid game is Metroid Prime which sold 2.8 million (on the Gamecube). Looking at the Wii, Metroid Prime 3 sold 1.79 million units (note-- MP3 is the third best selling Metroid Game). Whereas the following Lego games on the Wii outsold it (and I am only using sale figures from the Wii versions): Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga, Lego Batman, Lego Harry Potter: Years 1-4, and Lego Indiana Jones.
Honorable mention: Lego Star Wars: Episode 3 tied the sales numbers of Metroid Prime 3.
So unless multi-platform licensed Lego games are also system sellers, Metroid is certainty not a system seller.
Re: Nintendo Switch Hits 22.86 Million Worldwide Sales, Has Now Outsold The GameCube
@NintyNate Metroid has never been a big seller (for a Nintendo franchise). The highest selling game was Metroid Prime on the Gamecube and sold 2.8 million. The worse selling Super Smash Bros. game was on the Wii U and that sold a little over 5 million (not including digital sales).
Put into perspective, the best selling Metroid game sold about half what the WORSE selling Super Smash Bros. game sold. Super Smash Bros. shifts units, Metroid does not.
Re: Rumour: Netflix's Castlevania Executive Producer Is Apparently "Working" On A Legend Of Zelda Series
@Tsurii I thought I was the only one that thought that. In fact, 'incredibly average' is more praise than I would give it. I thought it was horrible-- lots of blood and swearing doesn't make a series good.
Re: Pre-Orders For Nintendo Switch Online Subscriptions Go Live On Amazon
@ramu-chan You completely ignored US taxes. One of the reasons I dislike such comparisons-- our European friends conveniently forget to take the fact that one price includes tax and the other does not.
As such, your comparison and criticism are invalid.
Re: Nintendo Expects To Sell Another 20 Million Switch Consoles This Financial Year
@johnvboy Thank you for pointing this out-- I see the claim that Metroid (Metroid Prime 4 recently) will move some consoles. I have decided that the 'gaming journalists' and a vocal minority online don't realize that Metroid is not a big seller, never has been. But in their little world Metroid is a system seller (which it isn't) just because they like it.
I wish it was a huge seller, I love Metroid (especially the Prime games), but I also know that they don't sell much. I know that each Metroid game released could potentially be the last game due to somewhat low sales.
Re: Topper Hat And Topper Suit Added To Super Mario Odyssey
@OnBeingHuman @Franklin It is a little more than nothing, they are fun to play around with for starters. Some of the conversations with Luigi and Bowser change depending on the conversation.
In the game some of the outfits are required to unlock levels and areas. However, I find several of the outfits fun to play around with. And considering the point of games are to have fun, I find them to have some value.
Re: Nintendo Download: 12th April (North America)
@Ralizah True, but such a list would be unpractical and time consuming for almost no benefit. There are over 100 games across 3 consoles on sale right now. Some weeks (especially in the latter Wii U days) there were a few hundred titles on sale at any given time.
If they did what you are asking, these posts would just be a list of hundred (or more) games that most people don't care about. The link is there for anybody interested, and is a much better option.
This site generally reports when some noteworthy publishers have sales, so they have found a happy medium.
Re: Weirdness: Mario Tennis Aces Artwork Triggers An Unlikely Discussion About Luigi's Lunch Box
@Jayvir @Rika_Yoshitake
Jayvir-- I had to laugh when you said alpha/beta males don't exist. If you weren't kidding, then I must commend you for showing everyone else what a beta male sounds like.
Re: The Mega Man Legacy Collection 1 & 2 Are Headed To Switch On 22nd May
@sleepinglion You can buy the parts seperatly on the switch if you buy them digitally. Part 1 is $15 and part 2 is $20.
Re: Nintendo's Norwegian Site Triggers Speculation That Bayonetta 3 And Metroid Prime 4 Could Launch This Year
@StarSurfer Development could have started during E3, it could have been in development for the past 10 years. We don't know when it started-- we don't even know who the developer is.
It could possibly have been developed (and finished) for the Wii U, and Nintendo is just working on porting it over to the Switch (unlikely, but possible).
Re: Nintendo's Norwegian Site Triggers Speculation That Bayonetta 3 And Metroid Prime 4 Could Launch This Year
@manu0 Concerning translations-- they can't just ask anybody if the translation is fine. Legally, businesses have to pay people who provide services to them. Translations would fall under this-- it is one of the reasons websites use google and such to translate such things.
Re: This EA Star Wars Pitch Could Have Been The Rogue Squadron Reboot You Always Wanted
@iammikegaines You are aware that such petitions, especially online petitions, mean nothing.
Re: Super Mario Run's Big Update Has Started to Go Live
@SirRandall it would actually be the other way around. I have used both Android and apple products. Android devices, if you get it from a decent manufacturer, beats Apple any day. Any feature on an Apple device or phone can be found cheaper (and usually better) on an Android device. Plus, I can expand the memory on my Android devices, which I couldn't do on my Apple devices.
Apple is better in that I can buy an Apple product and not worry about the quality. When buying an Android device one has to be very careful and make sure they are buying a quality product. Lots of crappy Android devices on the market.
Re: Walmart Cancels All Super NES Classic Pre-Orders
@AcesHigh
You are incorrect (in the US at least, I can't speak to other countries or specialty markets, which Video Games are not a specialty market). Producers can not dictate to retailers how they sell their product. If Walmart, target, etc. wants to offer preorders there is nothing that can be done about that. Producers can't refuse to sell to retailers due to such things (runs afoul of antitrust laws). Reread my post-- Nintendo generally sells to big distributors and they sell to the retailers-- Nintendo can't tell the distributors not to sell to any given retailer. Again, Nintendo got themselves in legal trouble back in the 1980s and 1990s for similar practices.
You are also incorrect that contracts can be broken with no legal recourse. That is what the courts are for in the US-- contracts (despite what some may claim about having 'good lawyers') are incredibly hard to break.
edit: here is a link to an article from 1991where Nintendo settled their price fixing case (Nintendo told retailers what price they would sell things at, and Nintendo would refuse to ship product to any retailer who refused to go along with it-- exactly what AcesHigh and others are claiming Nintendo has a right to do which they don't in the US): http://www.nytimes(dot)com/1991/04/11/business/nintendo-to-pay-25-million-in-rebates-on-price-fixing(dot)html
Re: Walmart Cancels All Super NES Classic Pre-Orders
@AcesHigh
Actually, Nintendo can not dictate things like no preorders, or that retailers only sell one per customer in the USA. Nintendo got themselves into legal trouble in the 1980s and 1990s for similar practices. Dictating such terms to retailers is illegal in the United States.
Besides, Nintendo does not sell directly to retailers (usually). They sell to large distributors, and those distributors sell the product to retailers.
Re: Walmart Cancels All Super NES Classic Pre-Orders
@sdelfin
Nintendo has no say in if a company offers preorders or not in the USA. It is illegal for Nintendo to tell/force companies not to offer preorders, or even how much to sell their products for (MSRP is just the suggested price, retailers can sell the products for any price they want).
Most likely the reason for preorders not occurring is that it is unclear how much stock will be available, or the FCC hasn't finished testing it.
Re: Nintendo Switch Release Date And Retail Price Confirmed, Region Locking Is Out
Retailers set the prices in the US as well. MSRP is just the 'suggested' price. It is actually illegal to set prices in the US.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Switch To Start At £199.99 In United Kingdom, $329.99 In Canada
Manufactorers can not set prices in the US either. Manufactorers can only give a suggested price, retailors are free to charge whatever they want.
Re: Review: Super Mario Sunshine (GameCube)
@uel,
those cutscenes were horrible! I actually do not replay this game because of those cutscenes (I hate watching most cutscenes, but Sunshines were really bad).
If they would get rid of the cutscenes (or at least make them so that I can skip them), get rid of the blue coins (those were boring and horrible to collect), and increased the number of fludd-less levels (and let me replay them without Fludd), this would have been a 10/10 game.
It is still a good game, but I feel that Sunshine is the weakest of the Mario games. It almost feels like SMB2, in that it was originally another game and Mario characters were inserted later.