Nintendo's relationship with EA has been a subject of much speculation as of late. It's been unclear whether or not the publisher considers the Wii U part of the next generation of home consoles alongside Sony's Playstation 4 and Microsoft's Xbox One, and some of EA's major titles seem to be skipping Nintendo's Wii successor (notably, its sports titles).
EA label president Frank Gibeau has spoken out to clarify the situation. Speaking to Polygon, Gibeau insists that EA does consider Wii U a next-gen platform, but that they do not plan on having any games out for the console this fall:
We have a good partnership with Nintendo. We released four games on the platform over the last year and we're pretty proud of Need For Speed, and Madden, and FIFA and Mass Effect. We have guys that our looking at the Wii U in the studio system right now as an opportunity for the future, but we have no publicly announced Wii U games that we're going to release this fall.
When asked about the Wii U's standing as compared to other next-gen consoles, Gibeau had this to say:
We're really excited about the Xbox One and the PS4 and that's a pretty big endeavor in and of itself. We have four titles out on the Wii U that are active right now, so looking at how things unfold, that's where our focus is right now.
It's good to know that EA considers Wii U part of the next generation of consoles, but unfortunate for Wii U owners that there doesn't seem to be any of the publisher's titles on the horizon.
What do you think about the rocky relationship between EA and Nintendo? Let us know in the comments.
[source polygon.com]
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Don't we already know EA hasn't got anything in development for the Wii U? Or am I missing something?
Damn!!! Not even a Fifa 14 port!!! Even Wii got pants versions yearly!!
We already know EA sux, yes.
Not too worried about lack of EA games. They aren't that good anymore anyways. Mostly all sequel re-hash anyways. Japanese developed exclusives brought west will fill in nicely with a breath of fresh air. I've got a feeling this will be the NES all over again with people flocking to these "strange new games" from Japan. Wii U will be fine. They said the same thing about the 3DS, and to be honest, the 3DS is cranking out a tonne of sweet games right now. It's on fire. Wii U will be a year from now. Pretty sure you'll see the Wii U deluxe @ 299 as well. Nintendo will spin it as it not being a price cut, as the Basic will be gone, and they will drop Deluxe off the end of the name, so technically it will be a new SKU.
If it's because of poor sales, EA should just come out and say it already. They're not clear on anything concerning this.
EA keeps on wasting opportunities.
They stated the Wii U doesn't support their "frostbite" engine. Once sales for Wii U reach "acceptable" levels I'm sure they will magically be able to port games over to Wii U and hopefully have them look and play just fine. It's all about the $
Luckily, I don't like sports games. As long as the next Star Wars game comes out on all consoles, I am satisfied. If not, then anybody is free to join me in my very own angry mob (pitchforks and torches not included).
I just want Fifa..
You mean we're not going to get dozens of games that are just annual updates of their previous games with only slightly better graphics and slightly altered gameplay? WhatEVER will we do?
</sarcasm>
I would off liked to see Mass Effect 1 & 2 get ported across and maybe even the other Mass Effect 3 DLC. But I suspect that the DRM policy employed by M$ on XB1 and the fact Wii U has none is the real reason EA don't want to know with the Wii U
@Farmboy74 That reason never crossed my mind. :<
"We have good partnership with Nintendo". What kind of partnership is that?!
ea games are bad,, i think i speak for the majority of us nintendo fans,,, WE DONT CARE
please watch the profanity. k8smum
@ SilentHunter382
It's one reason I can think off. But I've been thinking more that if EA really wanted to they could just bring their games to eshop only, everyone would have to buy a new copy of the game and there would be no pre owned sales for them to worry about.
XBOX 1 looks stupid ,,and im not a playstation fan, we mite not be getting fifa or army of two,, but we have smash bros,mario,zelda so truth is im not boverd
He says 'no publicly announced games' - what about unannounced games?
You forgot EA calling X1, PS4 and WiiU generation four consoles...
I have no announced EA games I plan to buy.
Maybe bioware put a " sir but we already have dragon age 3 running on wiiu" and criterion has a few wiiu games up for it?
@BJQ1972 Star wars? Mirror edge 2?
I certainly think it's more about DRM than lackluster WiiU sales at this point w/ all the MS clarifications this past week and Sony's deafening silence on the matter. The WiiU will probably sell this holiday w/ the new first party titles and the price advantage it will hold over PS4 and X1 so that won't really be a legitimate excuse any longer.
Nintendo also seems a little slow on the DLC uptake and I think there is something going on there as well. Maybe Nintendo doesn't like "unlockable" DLC. ie stuff that is already on the disc but you have to pay to play it. Or maybe Nintendo just doesn't like EA
Why does it have to be a conspiracy? Wii U hardware sales are low, but 3rd party games sales are ridiculously bad. Most Wanted U got so much praise but was a huge bomb and lost them a lot of money.
As for 'magically' getting Frostbite working once sales are up, they never said it couldn't run it. They said it was running pretty bad, not a crazy statement considering how different the Wii U architecture is. Everyone knows they COULD get it running, but right now they would not sell enough copies of the game to make back the money they spend optimising it.
It could also be the case of needing to educate the Nintendo gamer that occasionally great games can be published and produced by third party devs such as EA and not some of the shovelware crap that plagued the original Wii
ACTUALLY, EA DID make a fair amount of money with a fair few Wii games (especially FIFA) but not to the levels of PSBOX consoles. However, that statement seems to indicate they're waiting till the Wii U sells in bigger numbers reading between the lines). At least they consider Wii U same gen as PS4 and Xbox One unlike the makers of the Unity engine.
For me personally, no FIFA 14 on the WII U is a big blow and very annoying.
"so looking at how things unfold, that's where our focus is right now."
so they are waiting to see how well people recive the xbox one, if its good, theres no need for wii u, but if it isnt... we need games that sell....
@BestBuck123 not all, i do buy it as a primary reason but i love other 3rd party games too...
Shrug.
@X-Factor LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Though I'm sad we're missing out on the next Need for Speed, I'm still holding out hope we get Mirror's Edge 2. A gamer can dream
Oh man, now we have to miss all the Sports titles that come out every DARN year that come out for every DARN system! /sarcasm
No seriously, I'm not too worried. I mean, we've still got that one Need for Speed, so I'm set, unless there's some big surprise they've got, though I doubt it.
Now, if there's someone we need for Wii U, it's Valve. I'd love something from them on Wii U, perhaps a TF2 port or something...
High possibility of Shaq-Fu: Enforcer of Justice slam dunkin' its way to VC soon
EA a month ago: "Frostbite 3 can't run on Wii U"
EA now: "Wii U is a next-gen console and we hope to make games for it after this year (obviously paraphrased)."
MAKE UP YOUR MINDS EA!!!
At least this shows that Nintendo and EA have mended their relationship (or at least somewhat), which is good. Because as much as I don't like EA games, millions of people do, and having third party support is vital to the Wii U's success.
They've already announced that they're going to partner with microsoft, which probably had something to do with XBox One's cancerous DRM.
Point is when WiiU starts getting first-party support EA will start porting yearly installments to it as well.
Good news, it would be a better world without ea..
Most Wanted U is an old port. It sold as much as it could as most people already played it. If it wasn't for the GamePad features, nobody would have bought it. So it's thanks to Wii U features that it sold what it did.
Where is NFS MW in the shops? I've not seen a copy on the shelves yet.
It's rediculous to claim poor sales when the games aren't readily available.
I had to download my copy, and I ain't going through that wait again with any other games.
no one will buy the wii u if ea are out who wants not to play fifa,madden,woods,nba,dead space,medal of honour,the list goes on the most played game on my u is fifa 13.
IRead this itteration and this http://nintendoenthusiast.com/18473/ea-wii-u-is-an-opportunity-for-the-future-believe-wii-u-is-same-generation-as-competition/ and you get more insight on what EA are trying to do.
The DRM restrictions on Xbone and Ps4, once announced/leaked, means most gamers, apart from the Hardcore Fans will be reluctant to jump on the Xbone/Ps4 Train.
The WiiU will end up there, or there-abouts selling the same as the Xbone/Ps4 as people will opt to stay with thier Ps3's, 360's or concentrate more on Pc gaming or opt for Drm freindly WiiU.
With the Attitude EA have shown towards WiiU/Nintendo and how the reaction to Xbone's Drm handling has been recieved by the public and media EA are now having to backtrack and try to re-establish thier relationship towards WiiU owners and Nintendo.
Yes there's no games comming this year, but thays because they abandoned the WiiU at the end of last year, only letting games already in development be finished, well game, that being NFSMW.
I said months ago EA would be up the creek the way thier attitude is(was) and sure enough they are.
You expect all Ps4/Xbone titles released by EA in the latter half of next year to also be on WiiU, all new games they start development on will include a WiiU version, the trouble his how much damage have EA caused themselves in terms of WiiU owners actually willing to give EA any of thier hard earned money towards games they do release on WiiU.
Its worth adding after everything EA have to be carefull on how they word press statements in thier return to supporting WiiU, They are not going to out right say look guys, we've been greedy arseholes and now realise people won't buy into restrictive drm managment offered on Xbone and Ps4, so although we have said most games we are making for Xbone and Ps4 won't work on WiiU they in reality will.
What a surprise!!!
@Peach64 Seems ignorant to dismiss all possibilities, "conspiracy" or otherwise. I agree that these decisions are driven by money, but I don't think it's a stretch that this situation is probably more dynamic than that
...Sooo, wait...first they say they're making any games for the Wii U, then say that was wrong, and now this...? Wat?
Nintendo should announce that EA isn't allowed to put any of their games on the Wii U until they start making better games.
I don't care about EA at all. The only thing they're good at is releasing the same mediocre garbage every year. Same goes for Activision. I have been boycotting such companies for many years now...
That's good, I'm not planning to buy EA titles on any of the 5 current platforms I own.
This is all bs! Last month they stated that they have something in development for the wii u and now they don't. They just flip, flop. I wish nintendo sites would stop posting about them. There are some news not worth knowing about.
Warning: EA & Microsoft may have Reputation Managers posting on this very site.
Plus the only EA game that I would've gotten (traditionally) this year was Madden 25, but they got rid of create-a-team so screw that.
@Davidiam007 EA is flip-flopping more than Mitt Romney, they just can't get a consumer clue.
@Zup Star Wars will definitely come on the Wii U whether EA wants it or not. Disney is intent on supporting the Wii U as the Wii primarily targeted families, Disney's intended audience. I just hope EA does not screw up the game though for the Wii U or do something else stupid... hard to hope
I'd like to see the megapublishers gone. Smaller developers need to start self-publishing their games through digital services.
Honestly I don't care... last EA game I bought was Tiger Woods in '08. I look at this more like an opportunity for another developer to step up and break the monopoly EA has held. Hell, Nintendo could seek to license the various NHL, NFL, NBA etc... and create some collaborations with their own IPs also! Who wouldn't love to see the 49er's, the Heat, or the Blackhawks go against the Koopa Kingdom...
EA hasn't done anything with its games this generation anyway. Only one that I can think of would be the 1st Dead space other then that they just add new "paint".
@d_rock That would be great!
I'm sorry; I never really liked sports games. The best Sports game I've ever played Was NHL HITZ!
I really don't care about this or that third party aside from Koei-Tecmo, however, if EA does anything else for Wii U on par with the quality shown in Need for Speed I'll at least give it a look.
This has been headlined differently as it should of been.
My Prev post has link which gives better indication of its a story of EA trying to get themselves out of thr Anti-WiiU hole they've dug themselves.
Example.. Not long ago EA quoted as saying WiiU is Not considered Next-Gen by them, Now they are saying they Consider it as Next-Gen along side Xbone and Ps4.
EA hasn't made a game worthy of praise in years and given what they're doing with Sony and MS I hate this company with a passion and would love to see it just go away.
@nilcam
That's the only way we know for sure that devs will get the money for their hard work and I'd be fine with that. It's much better than the scumbags at EA leeching off these devs and controlling how people use games they spent their hard earned cash on.
I couldn't care less about EA or their games so I don't really give a damn if they make games for the Wii U or not. Wii U is doing perfectly okay without that money hogging company.
Because of the DRM all EA can do for the most part is insult Nintendo's Wii U.. sorry it's not Nintendo's fault that they happen to be a company.. and need to make profit and as thus make profitable systems,.. Your DRM scheme is a insult and slap in the face to the consumer.. and frankly.. EA.. your biggest apps are games that just get a yearly upgrade in Graphics and Rosters.. and perhaps teams... it's a terrible thing that you have not in this day and age of DLC and downloading in general have not just made one physical copy of any given game (Say Maddens Football) and just give a yearly patch or expansion that will upgrade everything you need to make it Maddens 2014 or whatever for about 20-30 bucks max.. EA for the most part has ripped the consumer off.. for to long now.. Sorry but really Nintendo does not need you that bad.. EA. Actually for the most part.. we are better off without you.. and your little rip off and DRM schemes..
I don't really care about EA, but I do wish they'd make up their damn minds already...
What he meant to say was...we are really excited about drm and xbone and the ability to rip you off.
I think the bad relations had something to do with the old EA president. Things could be different with the new guy, not that it matters for most because EA hasn't been releasing much good lately.
EA is still around!? After SimCity, I thought they just rolled over and gave up.
Does anyone have any links that prove Nintendo refused to use Origin, because I'm just coming up with rumors for the most part.
that's not clarification, that's backtracking.
maybe they would also like to backtrack on how many console generations there are as well?
And not a single thing of value was lost.
It is disappointing. And also a huge problem for Nintendo and the Wii U.
EA's sport games are very important for the future of the Wii U. These games generate a lot of sales, and a lot of people will skip the Wii U, because these games are not coming for the platform.
Some people in here are way to optimistic. I am also not very interested in many EA games, besides the annual Fifa version witch i really like and play allot through the year. But i know how important these sports games are for a lot of people.
Here in Europe, Fifa is really important. So many people buy Fifa over here. Sadly, I can't see the Wii U generate a lots of sales in Europe without Fifa in its lineup. So even if you don't care for EA's sports games, it will effect the sales of the Wii U, and have a huge impact on the general game lineup in the future.
I will just have to buy better games then... It's a hard life being a gamer
I don't care for Fifa, Madden etc but in Europe & North America these games sell as many consoles as COD.
Even if you don't like EA games such as Crysis 3, Sims and the rest you need to understand that if Wii U is to survive in this competitive market, it needs EA, Activision and other big publishers. The only other way for Wii U to grab some new users is to bring out some new IP's.
Losing EA is a financial bomb, let's hope they change their mind or this could be a very bad year for our new console.
Xbox One and PS4 will have the biggest selling games franchises at launch including COD Ghosts, Battlefield 4 and Fifa/Madden, these games sell consoles and lots of them at that. I hope Reggie and the boys bring some big, big guns with them tomorrow to help sell the U.
I'm just sad because that means no Plants vs. Zombies!
Good old EA keeping their cool.
Just more of EA doing what EA does best. Duplicity and double talk. There's really no need to dig into details when you can go through the years on how they've handled Nintendo, and also how they played this similar card with Sega when they got fed up with them too and helped Sony bury Sega and their Dreamcast which was also a less powerful system along with the new generation of stuff as is how the WiiU kind of is now.
When Sony closes their console dept due to heavy losses, and nobody wants to buy the XboxZero... then EA will come crawling back to Nintendo. EA hasn't made a game that I cared about in at least 10 years anyways, and they are suffering financially, so whatev.
Isn't this old "news?" We are already over it. After seeing XBOXone's conference, I'm even happier with my Wii U. I am also going to be even more happy when I own both a Wii U and a PS4.
And I will be even more happy when I have Destiny for the PS4. Then I will be ultimate happy.
Ya know what? I am thrilled that Nintendo said no to their Origin crap...has anyone tried to get that stuff to run? I know we have Mass Effect 3, it would have been nice as a trilogy. I don't care if EA puts any games out on the Wii U, I won't support this company. I do love my Wii U though!!
@K964 You have a computer right? Go play PvZ on it...
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