So now I'm not invested at all in thoses quests. I'm like "yeah this dude is cool and he's totally right to think that way. Buuuuuuut I want his Asterisk so I'm gonna screw him in the end ! oh well..."
By original you mean the japanese version of Bravely Second or Bravely Default ?
I'm not yet to the part where you get to redo thoses quests. but from what I've seen until now there nothing interesting past the choice. No real consequences, so I don't really now if they actually remove something but if they did it looks like it wasn't worth the time anyway...
I'm currently playing Bravely Second and I think the localisation is pretty good.
Thoses quest are stupid anyway.
Because the choice you make isn't about the story, it's about the Asterisk ( an item that give you acces to new classes ) you want to unlock.
Basically you choose a side then get to fight the OTHER guy and take his asterisk. And because thoses are Asterisk of the previous game you already know which one you prefere.
So in order to get the asterisk of a guy you have to side AGAINST him (it feels so wrong).
So whatever the narrative outcome, it's a messed up system anyway.
I'm glad at least the character are fine with the choice you make. if on top of it all I had to listen to the characters whining about how bad the choice I didn't really made was, it would have make the whole thing far worse.
If you buy a physical game, would it make sense to give you a discount on digital games ?
Cause I don't realistically see how they could give you discount on physical games.
You could say it would be better than nothing but if today you buy physical games only I guess it's for a reason (whatever that is) and having a discount on digital games wouldn't make you buy more digital game.
Except of course if you only buy physical game because of the lower price at retail. But if that's the case then this new system will suits you well because by going digital only you'll get a lot of discount and should ends up spending more or less the same amount than before.
Anyway I think it's time you guys get on with the time. Games are digital things, they should be sold digitally.
I've embraced digital only gaming on PC since forever and never once felt like I didn't own my games, I can still play 20 years old games on my brand new PC with or without internet connection.
All my 3DS games are also eShop purchase, only my Wii U game are still physical mostly because the Wii U sucks and doesn't have much storage (no I don't want to add an external DD).
I mean look at how games works today:
If today you buy Smash 4 on disc. The game is version 1.0, several major updates behind the current state of this game. Same with Splatoon, Mario maker and pretty much any updated game. And it's even worse for third party developpers because for whatever reason they can't figure out how to have a working day 1 game, so basically most of physical copy of modern game are broken as shit if you don't apply the day1 patch.
With digital game you don't have any of thoses issu, you always buy the latest version of the game.
I don't care about physical reward to be honest. When it comes to nintendo I care about their games. I buy games I got discount on games that's what it should be.
Of course you could argue that we should be able to have the choice between games and physical goodies but it's not the same.
With physical stuff the overhead cost is much much higher. You have to produce the thingy, manage stocks of the thingy, ship each thingy to wherever. Basically it's a huge waste of ressources for everyone. If you want to sell physical goods you're much better off selling thoses in regular retail store at regular price without tying them to a fidelity program.
With digital goods it's much simpler, you just charge less. End of story.
What I'm trying to say is that if Nintendo would be to offers physical goods with this system they would have to make everything pricer.
I'd rather have better digital only deals than having the choice between physical and digital but at a worse discount rate.
I like the concept, But ! No virtual button ! I'm pretty sure nintendo know that. I could see this as the bottom half of a 3DS. displaying informations on controls and menus.
You guys must keep in mind that this system is mainly tailored for the NX. It's also an internationnal system.
In Europe we didn't have much of a reward system. I had to register my entire Wii, Wii U and 3DS library just to get an exclusive yoshi plush. I mean it's better than nothing but I'm not seeing much value here.
@Xenocity Aaaaactualllly.... I made some quick math using thoses numbers (which are a bit flawed due to conversion rate, etc....)
Using the 60$+ purchases you get 80 gold point, that's a 1.33 conversion rate from dollars spent to gold point earned.
Then using the Zelda Majora's Mask 3D discount of 40% for 130 gold points you got a discount of 16$ for 130 a conversion rate of 0.123 gold point spent to dollars earned.
All in all you get a something like a ratio of 0.163 dollars spent to dollars earned.
In other words you gain roughtly 16 % of extra money with this system.
Keep in mind that I'm using thoses two particular examples, I picked them becauses they're the one for regular full price games. I did not check for others.
@RainbowGazelle Seems like Nintendo sees Europe only as a bunch of filthy casual. Not an important market for a Fire Emblem games... But we should rejoice ! Instead of a brillant sequel to an already great game like Fates we have the privilege of having the cheaply made sequel of Bravely default ! Houra !
@Ubercho because if you love Melee and esport thoses stories are incredibles. The Smash Brothers documentary is a great exemple of why melee is unique and why esport is entertaining.
It looks like Nintendo has developped a very solid business plan for the futur. Its global, internationnal, it starts small and ramp up overtime, every pieces should fall in place one after another.
Also, expect a major communication event (new Nintendo direct ?) somewhere between today and february 17th. If they want regular people to know about the launch of My Nintendo and Miitomo they need to communicate to the masses about it. My money is on the 17th, so they can say "You can register and download the application right now !" and profit from all the buzz and talk post Nintendo direct.
@Protocol_Penguin Nintendo doesn't see mobile (IOS/Android) as a dedicated gaming plateform nor should they, it's not. They believe there's a market for a dedicated gaming device which is not the same as mobile users.
So no, they won't abandon their handheld business with NX in favor of mobile. Nintendo on mobile will be its own thing. BUT you are kinda right on one point. Handheld business will be much closer to their home console business.
Don't be butt hurt guys. The Wii U has weird hardware architecture compare to other plateform, and it's also not that powerfull So because Indivisible is running on a proprietary engine they would have to port the engine to the plateform. And let's be real, because of the weak install base and more than gloomy futur, the Wii U is not worth the investissement.
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Re: Nintendo Issues Statement On Side Quest Changes In Bravely Second
@RGnsd
I know right ? It doesn't make any sense.
So now I'm not invested at all in thoses quests. I'm like "yeah this dude is cool and he's totally right to think that way. Buuuuuuut I want his Asterisk so I'm gonna screw him in the end ! oh well..."
Re: Nintendo Issues Statement On Side Quest Changes In Bravely Second
@dr_lugae
By original you mean the japanese version of Bravely Second or Bravely Default ?
I'm not yet to the part where you get to redo thoses quests. but from what I've seen until now there nothing interesting past the choice. No real consequences, so I don't really now if they actually remove something but if they did it looks like it wasn't worth the time anyway...
Re: Nintendo Issues Statement On Side Quest Changes In Bravely Second
I'm currently playing Bravely Second and I think the localisation is pretty good.
Thoses quest are stupid anyway.
Because the choice you make isn't about the story, it's about the Asterisk ( an item that give you acces to new classes ) you want to unlock.
Basically you choose a side then get to fight the OTHER guy and take his asterisk. And because thoses are Asterisk of the previous game you already know which one you prefere.
So in order to get the asterisk of a guy you have to side AGAINST him (it feels so wrong).
So whatever the narrative outcome, it's a messed up system anyway.
I'm glad at least the character are fine with the choice you make. if on top of it all I had to listen to the characters whining about how bad the choice I didn't really made was, it would have make the whole thing far worse.
So I'm okay with this localization.
Re: Feature: Breaking Down the My Nintendo Loyalty Economy
@MoonKnight7 @VanillaLake
If you buy a physical game, would it make sense to give you a discount on digital games ?
Cause I don't realistically see how they could give you discount on physical games.
You could say it would be better than nothing but if today you buy physical games only I guess it's for a reason (whatever that is) and having a discount on digital games wouldn't make you buy more digital game.
Except of course if you only buy physical game because of the lower price at retail. But if that's the case then this new system will suits you well because by going digital only you'll get a lot of discount and should ends up spending more or less the same amount than before.
Anyway I think it's time you guys get on with the time. Games are digital things, they should be sold digitally.
I've embraced digital only gaming on PC since forever and never once felt like I didn't own my games, I can still play 20 years old games on my brand new PC with or without internet connection.
All my 3DS games are also eShop purchase, only my Wii U game are still physical mostly because the Wii U sucks and doesn't have much storage (no I don't want to add an external DD).
I mean look at how games works today:
If today you buy Smash 4 on disc. The game is version 1.0, several major updates behind the current state of this game. Same with Splatoon, Mario maker and pretty much any updated game. And it's even worse for third party developpers because for whatever reason they can't figure out how to have a working day 1 game, so basically most of physical copy of modern game are broken as shit if you don't apply the day1 patch.
With digital game you don't have any of thoses issu, you always buy the latest version of the game.
Re: Feature: Breaking Down the My Nintendo Loyalty Economy
I don't care about physical reward to be honest.
When it comes to nintendo I care about their games. I buy games I got discount on games that's what it should be.
Of course you could argue that we should be able to have the choice between games and physical goodies but it's not the same.
With physical stuff the overhead cost is much much higher.
You have to produce the thingy, manage stocks of the thingy, ship each thingy to wherever. Basically it's a huge waste of ressources for everyone. If you want to sell physical goods you're much better off selling thoses in regular retail store at regular price without tying them to a fidelity program.
With digital goods it's much simpler, you just charge less.
End of story.
What I'm trying to say is that if Nintendo would be to offers physical goods with this system they would have to make everything pricer.
I'd rather have better digital only deals than having the choice between physical and digital but at a worse discount rate.
Re: Rumour Buster: Let's Have A Good Look At That "Leaked" NX Controller
I like the concept,
But !
No virtual button ! I'm pretty sure nintendo know that.
I could see this as the bottom half of a 3DS. displaying informations on controls and menus.
Re: Feature: Breaking Down the My Nintendo Loyalty Economy
You guys must keep in mind that this system is mainly tailored for the NX. It's also an internationnal system.
In Europe we didn't have much of a reward system. I had to register my entire Wii, Wii U and 3DS library just to get an exclusive yoshi plush. I mean it's better than nothing but I'm not seeing much value here.
Re: Feature: Breaking Down the My Nintendo Loyalty Economy
@Xenocity Aaaaactualllly.... I made some quick math using thoses numbers (which are a bit flawed due to conversion rate, etc....)
Using the 60$+ purchases you get 80 gold point, that's a 1.33 conversion rate from dollars spent to gold point earned.
Then using the Zelda Majora's Mask 3D discount of 40% for 130 gold points you got a discount of 16$ for 130 a conversion rate of 0.123 gold point spent to dollars earned.
All in all you get a something like a ratio of 0.163 dollars spent to dollars earned.
In other words you gain roughtly 16 % of extra money with this system.
Keep in mind that I'm using thoses two particular examples, I picked them becauses they're the one for regular full price games. I did not check for others.
Re: Rumour: Beyond Good And Evil 2 Is Being Developed As A Nintendo NX Exclusive
Please be true.
Beyond Good and Evil is one of my favorite game of all time.
And my favorite Ubisoft game by a country mile.
Re: Tomodachi Life Sales Reach Two Million in Europe
@RainbowGazelle Seems like Nintendo sees Europe only as a bunch of filthy casual. Not an important market for a Fire Emblem games...
But we should rejoice ! Instead of a brillant sequel to an already great game like Fates we have the privilege of having the cheaply made sequel of Bravely default ! Houra !
Re: Video: METAGAME Is A Movie About The Wild World Of Competitive Smash Bros. Players
@Ubercho because if you love Melee and esport thoses stories are incredibles. The Smash Brothers documentary is a great exemple of why melee is unique and why esport is entertaining.
Re: Fire Emblem Fates Becomes Fastest Selling Release in Franchise History in the US
Yeah We're ready to shatter record here in Europe too...
Will you please accept our money Nintendo ?
I swear the euro is as good a currency as any dollar or yen.
Pretty please...
Re: Nintendo Outlines Future Plans for 3DS and Promises That "Several Strong Titles" are Planned
It looks like Nintendo has developped a very solid business plan for the futur.
Its global, internationnal, it starts small and ramp up overtime, every pieces should fall in place one after another.
Also, expect a major communication event (new Nintendo direct ?) somewhere between today and february 17th. If they want regular people to know about the launch of My Nintendo and Miitomo they need to communicate to the masses about it.
My money is on the 17th, so they can say "You can register and download the application right now !" and profit from all the buzz and talk post Nintendo direct.
Re: The Official Fire Emblem Fates Site is Now Live in North America
How about givin us European a release date ?! God that's infuriating !
Re: Analysis: Assessing Why NX Needs to Take Over From Both the Wii U and 3DS
@Monkey_Balls which signs ?
Re: Analysis: Assessing Why NX Needs to Take Over From Both the Wii U and 3DS
@Protocol_Penguin Nintendo doesn't see mobile (IOS/Android) as a dedicated gaming plateform nor should they, it's not. They believe there's a market for a dedicated gaming device which is not the same as mobile users.
So no, they won't abandon their handheld business with NX in favor of mobile. Nintendo on mobile will be its own thing.
BUT you are kinda right on one point. Handheld business will be much closer to their home console business.
Re: Wii U Version Of Indivisible Not Possible, But NX Is Up For Consideration
Don't be butt hurt guys.
The Wii U has weird hardware architecture compare to other plateform, and it's also not that powerfull So because Indivisible is running on a proprietary engine they would have to port the engine to the plateform. And let's be real, because of the weak install base and more than gloomy futur, the Wii U is not worth the investissement.