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getting upset over people criticizing the price is an insane thing to do and equates to "don't criticize anything ever"

yes people are allowed to criticize the products a company puts out and how they are priced

@electrogeist Wow. "No u". Amazing response. Your Pulitzer Prize is in the mail.

@electrogeist VR already works fine now. You're delusional.

@N64SNESU Wow, I didn't know you were a psychic.

@FNL "Alt right"? Okay, I've heard some serious stretches for things people like to claim PewDiePie is but that is a totally new one.

@BlackenedHalo "Another"? What was the first proof?

This is great news, the fact that anyone is sad about this is ridiculous. So you don't play on PC, whoop-dee-doo. Be happy for the people who do that now get to play this game.

This is great news, the fact that anyone is sad about this is ridiculous. So you don't play on PC, whoop-dee-doo. Be happy for the people who do that now get to play this game.

@joey302 The DLC is not $5. $15 for Rebirth, $11 for Afterbirth, $10 for Afterbirth+. $36. That is the Steam version, of course. The PS4 version isn't comparable because it doesn't have AB+ yet, but the DLC would cost the same on there anyway. The cost is justified.

@iGen Oooookay, let’s just look at this whole thing here.

First off, I can get where you’re coming from with the “common sense” thing. Hell, I’ve taken that route in the past. Yes, I’ll acknowledge the fact that most people who use emulators are gonna play their games illegally. That’s always been a truth of emulators, and no one’s ever going to stop it. And playing illegally downloaded games is generally morally wrong, in a sense.

But since you’re talking about “common sense”, let’s go that route for a second. Let’s disregard the law. Imagine you own a game, and download a ROM of said game online to your computer so you can play it on there with an emulator. Illegal? Yes. Any morally different from using a game copier device yourself? Not really. The end result is the exact same. So, yes, it’s illegal, but there’s nothing inherently morally wrong with it. Legally wrong and morally wrong is an important distinction.

So, in that sense, that adds to the list a lot of people that use emulators for perfectly moral purposes. However, there aren’t many other uses for an emulator on the Xbox One aside from piracy. But that leads me to a question.

What does this emulator allow you to do that you can’t do with any other emulator on most other platforms? Answer: Nothing. Your outrage over this is a bit… late to the party, so to speak. Frankly speaking, this emulator is a piece of crap, and most people would be better off using one on their phone or PC. Even a crap PC could emulate N64 better than this. The actual percentage of people in the emulation scene who will actually use this regularly is quite low, partially because it’s a piece of crap, and partially because of the $10 price tag. There are free alternatives on most other platforms that would work just as well, if not better.

Like I said though, you’re late to the party. Paid emulators have existed for quite a while, mostly on phones. Now, the point I’m about to make here doesn’t really apply much to this specific emulator, but it’s still a point. Emulators take work to develop. There’s nothing illegal about asking for money for your non-copyright breaking work. And your wording is quite unfair to say the least. Emulation is not a “tool for pirating N64 software”. Emulation has never been inherently meant for that specific purpose alone. I’ve heard “game preservation” thrown around a lot. Sure, Nintendo releases some games on Virtual Console, but what about the ones they don’t? Do you really expect someone to pay $115 just to be able to play Conker’s Bad Fur Day? (Yes, I know that game has been re-released in the Rare Replay collection, it’s just an example.)

What about romhacks? There’s nothing illegal about those. The Super Mario World romhacking scene alone is freakin’ huge. Yet, without an emulator, there’s no way to play those without having one of those SNES flashcarts you can play game backups off of. And at that point, there’s not much difference between that and using an emulator.

But, back to what you were saying. You say I’m not in a position to tell people how to react? No, I’m not. And I haven’t done so any more than you have. But I do have the right to call them idiots for it. But what about Nintendo? Am I in a position to tell them how to act? No, I’m not. And again, I haven’t done so. What I am in a position to do is state the objective fact that they have no legal ground to take this down. You want to know why? Do some research on Bleemcast. Remember that whole thing? There’s a reason Sony lost that case. Despite being an emulator, a tool that allowed people to play Playstation games on the Dreamcast, even pirated games, when Sony filed a lawsuit against them, they lost. Yes, Bleemcast went out of business because of the legal fees, but Sony still lost. Because it was established that emulators are not illegal. That applies even if the emulator cost money. If they were illegal, the many paid emulators on Google Play would have been taken down by now. Especially that Nintendo DS one that costs a whopping $7.

And, wow, you kinda fell apart at the end there. “What I said doesn't even have anything to DO with you.” Okay? How dare I defend people on the internet. Whether or not I know them has nothing to do with it. You don’t know them any more than I do, get out of here with that high-and mighty stance. Especially with that comment on profanity, that alone makes you lose some of your credibility if you really think profanity is any judge of someone’s character.

@iGen What exactly are you trying to say here? That emulators are inherently illegal? Because they're not. This is literally no different than an emulator existing on your phone or PC. Even that Nintendo page you linked says nothing about emulators being illegal, only ROMs. And even then, it acknowledges the exception to that rule where making your own backups from games you physically own is legal. However, this is only an emulator, and as such, no one, not even Nintendo, has any legal ground to take it down. Please learn actual facts before taking on your high and mighty/condescending tone.

"Traitors", my ass. You're in no position to throw around words like that.

Anyone who thinks this is illegal or should be removed, or that Nintendo has any grounds to have it removed, is an idiot.

@NImH your comment is what gives off the "self-righteous" vibe, not the hackers

@Seanmyster6 Judging from the way you talk, you could probably do without explaining it to anyone else.

@Detective_TeeJay "No anime characters in smash ever. Why? Because I say so. I don't have to explain crap to you."

@Utena-mobile Zero Escape is the name of the series, not a game. Which one are you talking about?

@smashbrolink There's not really much else to say to that other than "too bad". This is the way things are, and it's not changing, regardless of anyone's personal opinions on how unethical emulation is.

@AlternateButtons See? I called that! I I knew it would happen, and I called it.

@Kalmaro Nintendo saying something hardly makes it illegal, you know.

Dang, this is some cool stuff. Inevitably, some people are going to come in here and whine about this, though. Happens with every post about CEMU.

@Kalmaro Emulation has a legitimate purpose in preserving a console's library. Even outside of that, some people are completely content with just buying the Wii U games in physical form and then playing them with this emulator, eliminating the need for a Wii U. Funny enough, that's not even illegal.

@Zach777 "Something" actually has been said, it was confirmed there are no plans to bring it to the west.

@Bowser908 Yes, the PC version is the definitive version, but you have no way of knowing KSP on consoles is a "mistake". It's not even out yet.

@Donutman This isn't criminal behavior, lol.

Jeez, you people, it's like you want everybody's 3DS to be as limited as possible.

@VR32F1END You mean aside from the amount of money it costs to put something on the eShop? And also, "People who think they're developers"? "Experimental garbage"? I'm sorry, but it's incredibly obvious you know nothing about the homebrew industry.

@Sinister Yes, but that's pretty much unavoidable. It's gonna happen regardless of if this exploit gets released. No point in complaining about stuff that can't be changed.

@Sinister Piracy isn't even possible with this exploit.

Whoops. It's been taken down.

Does this have multiplayer?