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@dereq

Q: How many Vietnam vets does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

A: YOU CAN NEVER KNOW!! YOU WEREN'T THERE, MAN!!

@Nin10doh

As mentioned many times before, those previous demos/videos all took place in empty environments with very few enemies. This is the first time we have seen the game with multiple (large) enemies on screen in a detailed environment, and the frame rate was suffering because of that.

@G-Boy

Comparing the frame rates of a 20 year old N64 game to Wii-U Zelda as if that's not a problem?

Some of you people make me shake my head at 240fps

@OorWullie

5000baht? That's long-time pricing!

@Wolfgabe

No, I mentioned the fact that Watchdogs had slowdown and was a sales failure because I didn't understand the point you were trying to make by bringing that game up in comparison in the first place.

That Watchdogs had slowdown and was a crappy game somehow excuses Zelda from having bad frame rates on the Wii-U??

It's as nonsensical as you bringing up how 3DS games look bad on YouTube when we are discussing the Wii-U 😂

@Phin68

I don't think any official Switch footage has been shown yet. The screens in the reveal promo were simulated.

@Wolfgabe

Ya, it's consistently slow.

Also, Watchdogs 1 (don't know anything about the second game) got roundly criticized for its poor frame rate and didn't meet sales expectations either. What was your point exactly? That other games exist which run at 20fps and are unpopular?

@Wolfgabe

"Rewatching the footage I can't really notice any major dips and the framerate seems fairly consistent for the most part"

@Wolfgabe

More mental gymnastics! Love it!

Why are you comparing a Wii-U game to how a low-res 3DS video appears on YouTube? Those things have nothing in common.

Mario Kart 8 videos looked nice and smooth in Nintendo promos on YouTube. As did SM3DW. And DKC:TF.

This game looks like it is chugging in comparison to those.

And who here is saying that the Switch version won't run better than the Wii-U one? I don't see a single person saying that, and I'm sure most people (myself included) believe it it will run better on the Switch. It has too, right?

But again. Running better on the Switch doesn't absolve Nintendo of the fact that 13 million Wii-U owners appear to be getting the shaft when it comes to their version of this game.

But hey, don't take my word for it. I'm sure tomorrow there will be many articles on various gaming sites (maybe even this one?) pointing out the shockingly unacceptable frame rate.

@Wolfgabe

Of course you are. You are excusing Nintendo for putting out this game on the Wii-U when the system itself appears to be unable to handle it.

When Ubisoft or other developers release games like this they get shredded, but you give Nintendo a pass? Gimme a break.

I feel bad for the guys making this game, who are having their vision handcuffed by inferior hardware.

It has nothing to do with 'stream quality' either. It's an offical promo video made by Nintendo. They aren't going to show a game running at 15-20fps if they could have shown it at 30fps instead.

That would be like a Burger King television commercial showing the Whopper like you would order in real life. All mashed up with wilted lettuce and grey meat.

@Wolfgabe

Ya...it's kind of silly to expect that the console the game was originally designed for the past 3 years, runs the game in slo-mo. What is everyone thinking?!

The mental gymnastics you take to defend Nintendo at all costs is truly mind boggling.

How could Nintendo think showing the Wii-U running this game in such a poor state would be a good idea??

@IceClimbers

Haha keep believing that! They have been working on the game for 3+ years already. They don't spend all that time producing a game at 15-20fps then in the closing months punch in a few lines of code and magically bump the game up to 30+fps while retaining the same game size and graphics which were causing the slowdown.

Remember when Nintendo kept putting out videos of this game months ago that only featured 1 or 2 small enemies on the screen in barren environments and told us it was 'because we want to keep surprises'? Well now we know the truth. The game runs like crap when there are several medium/large enemies and detailed environments on screen.

@OzHuski

It wasn't a livestream. It was a slick Nintendo produced promo video. No technical hiccups.

The game looked like it was being played underwater. Shockingly slow. I honestly can't believe what I just saw. I pray the Switch version runs much smoother...

@KirbyTheVampire

I was just about to say this!

The official trailer looked great and showed a 'living' world for the first time, with various characters and towns shown. It got my hopes up!

Then I just watched some new gameplay on IGN...wow...it looked like it was chugging at 20fps or less. No wonder all the previous videos Nintendo showed took place in barren wastelands with 2-3 small enemies. It looks like this game is pushing the Wii-U to its technical limits and it doesn't look good at all.

Hopefully the Switch version runs this better, or it will be very disappointing.

@Emperor-Palpsy

Reggie 'my body is ready' Fils-Aime is one of the most awkward public figures working for Nintendo, and that says something.

@ricklongo

Reggie isn't and never was a CEO for Nintendo. His current position with Nintendo is the ambiguous title of 'executive officer' for Nintendo of America, a job that he is annually reappointed to, which means he's expendable.

I'd classify myself as a softcore gamer

I thought he was demoted to janitor

@Henmii

It sure as hell didn't happen with the Wii-U. You could buy that thing anytime you wanted, even on launch day.

I should know, because I bought two and tried to sell the second one online. I got $20 over the retail price for it haha.

@PlywoodStick

Tom and Damo aren't the syncophants. It's the users in the comment section who are saying Nintendo would never intentionally limit supplies to increase demand (which they have done before) or those saying there is no way Nintendo could have known this would be a popular item.

Nintendo dropped the ball big time on this.

@cleveland124

Hahaha exactly.

Only a Nintendo sycophant could make the great mental leap to argue that retailers are actually happy NOT having to stock the NES mini as it saves them shelf/floor space!

It's like a movie theater not wanting to show the new Star Wars movie next month because they want to save screens for other releases. Absolutely absurd thinking on the part of several posters here.

They defend Nintendo as a company as if it is a confused old man who doesn't know what he's doing and every action can be explained away as an accident or 'not his fault'. Nintendo is a smart, calculated company that plans every action it takes months and years in advance. Not someone stumbling around a dark hallway making rash decisions.

@Peach64

Nah, you are wrong this time.

The NES mini was trending on Twitter and drawing far more online interest than those other niche games you mentioned (who anyone in their right mind knew were not going to be big sellers).

And I would hope that Nintendo also did some marketing and focus group studies to gauge people's intent to purchase and interest in the product. And again, checking online reactions, the response was overwhelmingly positive and massive. Almost at Pokemon Go levels following its announcement.

If Nintendo can sell tens of thousands of shoes with NES character designs on them, surely they are smart enough to produce a million or more of the Mini, a $60 impulse buy which would no doubt sellout during the Christmas season.

This product not only appeals to the current fans of Nintendo and gaming, but people in their 40's-30's who have moved on but would want one to relive the nostalgia, if only for a few hours use.

@Wolfgabe

I've had many girls over to my place and let them play with my Mini and haven't gotten one complaint yet about the length of the cord.

@Tsusasi

I would actually consider repurchasing this game if it runs smoother. I loved the Wii-U version but the load times and slowdown got a bit annoying.

Nice!

Hopefully the PS4 and Xbox versions don't run at 15-20fps like the Wii-U release

@Tsusasi

'Scalper' is a racially insensitive term that disparages Native American people.

@neufel

Sometimes a cute box is all someone is looking for

A Profound Waste Of Money

@RadioHedgeFund

"But where else can I get 4 controllers together and play anything as good as MK8, 3D World or Smash?"

The N64 and GameCube

Another great video by Heck-san

I can believe this.

In the past few years Nintendo has shoehorned their IP into several games in which it didn't belong as a way to boost software sales.

@KiWiiU_Freek

If someone pays $120 to buy Rampage, I will eat my own face.

@bolt05

I have a feeling that most Mini's will be played for a couple hours so someone can scratch their nostalgia itch on Christmas then will sit in a drawer for years after that.

@KiWiiU_Freek

You paid $330 for all of that?! What a ripoff!

90% of those games are crap that can be had for $2-10 each and an N64 can be bought for $60-80 on its own. Damn son, I wouldn't be bragging about that 'score'.

There's an excellent chance that this movie will be worse than this article

How many did the Woodi sell?

@Lucina

A 'full game experience' is not an endless runner where the only interaction the player has with the game is by pushing a 'jump' button.

That sounds to be about as limited a game experience as one could have.

@HappyMaskedGuy

Lowering the price a couple years ago when sales tanked wouldn't have hurt and you know it

@HappyMaskedGuy

Sure worked well for Nintendo by never lowering the price of the Wii-U!

I don't think the people saying "$10 for this game is too much" are doing so because that is a lot of money.

I think they are saying that because charging $10 for a game that only uses a 'jump' button is obscene.

@G-Boy

They will still get ad revenue from the free version I am sure. If they can sucker people into paying $10 for the full game, that's just extra wasabi on top.

Comparing the sales of a $400-500 console to those of a $50 'toy' as if there is any relevance? It's apples and oranges. One is a major investment which will require further purchases (games) and the other is a throwaway, one time buy.

"Considering the fact the Famicom Mini isn't even a 'new' system in the conventional sense, the numbers seem impressive."

Maybe you should consider the fact that the Famicom Mini isn't even a 'system'?

Would be a lot easier to just buy a raspberry pi3.

@gcunit

I'm just throwing the poor guy a bone. Let's hope this article hits 20 comments so he wont view it as a complete failure.

Good lord, you poor guys are hurting for articles

@Aaron09

How expensive is a Dreamcast? I see them online for $50-80 depending on their condition, and there are less of them available than the Wii-U.

I don't think in the future that Wii-U's will be worth any more than any other older console.

@chardir

Detailed videos and thousands of articles/websites about these 30 games already exist online. This is a fruitless and pointless endeavor on their part.