"I agree a Wii U version would make sense, btw. The only reason for no current plans is we've got too much work already. I <3 Nintendo."
Notch just said on Twitter (along with, before that, "I am not aware of any plans to release a Wii U version of Minecraft."). so I guess that lays this to rest, absolutely.
I was just able to redeem a $50 eShop card on the WiiU Shop, then buy Knytt Underground, but it won't let me download it right now, it keeps erroring. It bought it just fine though, I guess I'll have to wait and download it another time.
I...don't think we should take this as anything more than rumor, but when questioned semi-recently about why Minecraft wasn't on WiiU, Notch said something like "Why not?" so maybe their previous stance of "very unlikely" has become somewhat more likely. Who knows?
Oh, so there IS a problem like that. I was wondering (was trying to get into the Uplay stuff on Rayman Legends in order to redeem a code for a special character and it took a few tries). Not to mention it kept reporting network services not available... which was causing the Uplay to error out actually, I think.
Well that wasn't a surprise. I realize that they probably thought they'd get more funding if they uses that name, but really...that was dumb. "Hey guys, we have no rights to this name, but we'll use it anyway! No game company has ever gotten angry with that! There's also not a part of copyright that a company must defend their copyright or lose it! No sir!"
I dunno...whenever I see things like this it just makes me curious as to what it tastes like. I'm way more curious about this kind of thing than I should be.
So they were written by the same person? If you're going to say things like 'Nintendo is doomed' (basically) you could at least not insult me by being incredibly wishy washy about it.
The Post takes a dim view of it? But it's a clear cut case of copyright infringement. It may have come out in the eighties, but they still OWN it. I mean, it's probably not hurting them all that much, it's true, but it really is their IP, their copyright. It's not like the creators of this didn't know that.
"Our games aren't selling on the WiiU?" "I know what will help that...make the WiiU version to be inferior by not including things like online play, or DLC!"
Oh man. I've...spent a lot on Kickstarters recently, haha. There's been so many interesting ones (maybe I'm just passionate about games... somehow I feel like I can't help myself sometimes). I'll have to think about this one too.
That's the thing though right....there is nothing making you buy these games early. Just so long as games are well marked as being 'early access' then I don't see the problem.
@element187 that's good if they do, I'd rather just have the unified account though. That's better than call customer service and hopefully they don't give you a hard time.
I think it's pretty important fixing up their account system. I like getting digital stuff, I'd feel better about it knowing that if my system explodes tomorrow, I can still log in with my account and get all that stuff on a new one.
I don't know. I'm sure they can be creative and whatnot, that's not why I distrust them. In their defense though, the money they're asking for really isn't a lot in terms of game development. If you think it's way more than they need, do some research...you'll be surprised how much game dev can cost.
I really love Yoshi's Island, and I'm trying to give this one the benefit of the doubt, but hm. I really hope it lives up to my expectations, but I don't know if it can really.
Huh, so is this like the WiiU eShop version of selling the alpha or beta of a game then? I don't mean this in an accusatory way, or anything like that, just thinking out loud.
I have to admit I'm interested in this but I'm not so sure about buying it given the stuff that really should be in this version. Maybe if they reduce the price since (despite what they say) the WiiU version is the cut down version. Maybe it looks good, maybe the game is good, but it's kind of hard to swallow that.
@polynomer you didn't read the FAQ I quoted, eh? Oh well, whatever. We don't agree, we aren't going to agree. I'm glad you believe in them so (apparently?). Hopefully that trust is not misplaced.
@polynomer they do, if that's how your project on IndieGoGo is set up. It's a moot point, given they didn't use IndieGoGo and we don't know what they'd have chosen if they did.
"What if I don't reach my funding goal?
If your campaign is set up as Flexible Funding, you will be able to keep the funds you raise, even if you don't meet your goal. If your campaign is set up as Fixed Funding, all contributions will be returned to your funders if you do not meet your goal. Flexible Funding campaigns that meet their goal are only charged 4% as our platform fee, whereas campaigns that do not meet their goal are charged 9%."
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That's from IndieGoGo's FAQ page, by the way.
@polynomer Ok, on the PC thing I do think I perhaps read that wrong on reading the article once again (if the court indeed verified that the PCs were wiped that's that). It still doesn't seem 100% clear to me if that is what they are saying but ok...I'll just give you that one. Also, hey, it's good that they say they are going to refund the ones on their website, I hope that they do. The thing is...that's nothing but their word. As I said, on Kickstarter you're protected without a doubt on that much at least because there is a third party. Also, by the way, they could have went with IndieGoGo if they were having trouble with Kickstarter instead of making something that looked like Kickstarter. For a minute I honestly thought that it was some kind of embedded version of Kickstarter.
Anyway, again, as I said already...even if things did seem totally awesome to me, I don't think this is going to work out and thus wouldn't give them money. Like @WesGrogan I'm done with debating this since it's far out lived any kind of useful debate we could've had. Good luck, I really do hope they prove me wrong.
@polynomer here's a shocker for you, ready? It's my opinion! Just like what you're saying is your opinion! I'll grant you that the thing with the PCs isn't something anyone could ever prove (since it's their word). If none of it seems shady to you, great! That said, I wouldn't give money to something that to me seems pretty shady (that 'hey we're doing crowdfunding on this thing that's like Kickstarter but oh wait it's our website really' bit didn't help either...for a bit I actually thought that it WAS Kickstarter. At least on Kickstarter, I know you will definitely not be charged anything should it not meet it's goal..on their site I honestly have no clue).
Anyway, even if I didn't feel that way, I don't think that a team led by Denis Dyack can pull something like this off. It's clear that SK isn't what they were at one time, and this company staffed with a lot of SK people, also isn't what Silicon Knights once was. I think you misunderstand me, however...I'd love for them to prove me wrong on all of this, but I'm not going to donate my money towards something I don't feel is ever going to come out any way (seems like a bad investment, which again is what Kickstarter more or less is).
In the end, I don't agree with you and that's really all there is to it. Feel free to disagree, just don't expect to convince me.
@polynomer Oh my god man, I already did. If you're going to argue with me about this at least try to actually read what I'm posting. To re-iterate in the plainest of terms: At this point, I really don't trust any company with Denis Dyack in a directing/producing/management position to deliver a game that I would care to play (if they finish it at all). If you want any more details than that, try reading please. I'm done with talking about this, it's clear you're here only to argue about this (are you Precursor Games indeed...).
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Re: Rumour: Minecraft Is Already In Development For Wii U, GamePad Said To Be The Focus
"I agree a Wii U version would make sense, btw. The only reason for no current plans is we've got too much work already. I <3 Nintendo."
Notch just said on Twitter (along with, before that, "I am not aware of any plans to release a Wii U version of Minecraft."). so I guess that lays this to rest, absolutely.
Re: Nintendo Acknowledges Network Issues and Suggests Patience
I was just able to redeem a $50 eShop card on the WiiU Shop, then buy Knytt Underground, but it won't let me download it right now, it keeps erroring. It bought it just fine though, I guess I'll have to wait and download it another time.
Re: Rumour: Minecraft Is Already In Development For Wii U, GamePad Said To Be The Focus
I...don't think we should take this as anything more than rumor, but when questioned semi-recently about why Minecraft wasn't on WiiU, Notch said something like "Why not?" so maybe their previous stance of "very unlikely" has become somewhat more likely. Who knows?
Re: Nintendo Acknowledges Network Issues and Suggests Patience
Oh, so there IS a problem like that. I was wondering (was trying to get into the Uplay stuff on Rayman Legends in order to redeem a code for a special character and it took a few tries). Not to mention it kept reporting network services not available... which was causing the Uplay to error out actually, I think.
Re: Nintendo of Europe Confirms Upcoming eShop Discounts
Whoa. I feel like Europe has better promotions than the US, heh.
Re: SpillPass-Pi Could be a Clever Workaround for All The StreetPass Hits You Need
Actually, uh...you don't need a Raspberry Pi for this. You can do it with most routers, really. That's about all I'll say about that, heh.
Re: Proposed Ghosts 'N Goblins Reboot Is Cancelled Following An Intellectual Property Dispute
Well that wasn't a surprise. I realize that they probably thought they'd get more funding if they uses that name, but really...that was dumb. "Hey guys, we have no rights to this name, but we'll use it anyway! No game company has ever gotten angry with that! There's also not a part of copyright that a company must defend their copyright or lose it! No sir!"
Re: 3DS System Update Adds Nintendo Network ID, Miiverse and Unified eShop Funds
@Clavis Huh? They worked fine for me...have not one but TWO underscores in my NNID. It entered in just fine.
Re: Nintendo Download: 5th December (North America)
Ooh yeah, Mystical Ninja!
Re: Weirdness: UK Store GAME Creates Christmas Dinner In A Can
I dunno...whenever I see things like this it just makes me curious as to what it tastes like. I'm way more curious about this kind of thing than I should be.
Re: SEGA Working on Second Round of 3D Classics
I'm not much interested in Super Hang-On 3D, but Space Harrier 3D is fantastic. I can't wait to see what else they might do.
Re: The 3DS YouTube App Has Finally Gone Live
It's SOOO awful. It looks and feels like something they made in a weekend because Nintendo kept bugging them about making a Youtube app for 3DS.
Re: Investment Site Motley Fool Executes Spectacular U-Turn By Claiming Nintendo Will Win This Christmas
So they were written by the same person? If you're going to say things like 'Nintendo is doomed' (basically) you could at least not insult me by being incredibly wishy washy about it.
Re: The YouTube Wii U App Update is Now Live
I might use it now, since we can view videos on the Gamepad. It's also working better for me than the old version so far.
Re: Fan Campaign for Bayonetta Wii U Release Kicks Into Gear
I'd definitely buy it, I know that.
Re: These Three New Kickstarter Projects Are Trying To Fund Their Way Onto Wii U
@ueI That's weird, I could have sworn someone posted something like that.
Re: These Three New Kickstarter Projects Are Trying To Fund Their Way Onto Wii U
'only the last one has potential'. 'none of the 3 sound promising'.
I personally think they could all be interesting.
Re: Long Awaited YouTube Application Coming To 3DS Later This Month
Time to watch Maru on my 3DS!
Re: Ubisoft Launches Assassin's Creed IV Black Flag Companion App
We all know three screens are better than two!
Re: Wii Fit U Update Resolves Data Transfer Issues
Oh good, that's what that was for!
Re: Former Video Game Destination Blockbuster Video Closes Its Doors In The US
Huh, I thought they'd done this already.
Re: Nintendo Will Be "Careful" About The Artistic Direction Of Zelda In The Future
Personally I've liked all the styles they've tried (for different reasons, all).
I actually want a grown up Link this time...the kind of more 'hard edged' looking Link design in Smash Bros has got me wondering what that'd be like.
Re: Phantasm Studios Seeks To Resurrect Ghosts 'N Goblins With Or Without Capcom's Blessing
They...probably shouldn't be calling it that if they don't yet have the permission.
Re: Feature: Where Is Your Wii Balance Board?
Under my bed currently...I like to keep it handy as I enjoy doing the Yoga stuff (more than anything).
Re: Nintendo Wants To Close Down This Open-Source Web Version Of Super Mario Bros.
The Post takes a dim view of it? But it's a clear cut case of copyright infringement. It may have come out in the eighties, but they still OWN it. I mean, it's probably not hurting them all that much, it's true, but it really is their IP, their copyright. It's not like the creators of this didn't know that.
Re: GamePad High Capacity Battery Available Now in Europe
if I got this...in conjunction with my Nyko Power Pak or whatever it's called...hmmm...
Re: Assassin's Creed IV DLC Looks Set to Sail Past Wii U
"Our games aren't selling on the WiiU?"
"I know what will help that...make the WiiU version to be inferior by not including things like online play, or DLC!"
Re: Legend of the Lancer Bound for Kickstarter, Wii U Stretch Goal Planned
Oh man. I've...spent a lot on Kickstarters recently, haha. There's been so many interesting ones (maybe I'm just passionate about games... somehow I feel like I can't help myself sometimes). I'll have to think about this one too.
Re: Hyper Light Drifter Receives Official Wii U Stretch Goal
I really hope this happens, I backed this game a while back when Wayforward mentioned it on the Half-Genie Hero page. It looks super cool.
Re: Two Tribes Confirms Details of Three Titles in Wii U Classics Range, All Hitting This Year
@Nintenjoe64 I vote Castlevania Rebirth as well. It's pretty freakin' awesome.
Re: Two Tribes Confirms Details of Three Titles in Wii U Classics Range, All Hitting This Year
Ooh, those are some good prices. All are great games too.
Re: Extended Nintendo Network and Miiverse Maintenance Confirmed for 30th September
That would be interesting. I'm curious to know what might be in that update.
Re: SnowCastle Games Keen on Public Beta Testing and In-Game DLC Purchases for the Wii U eShop
That's the thing though right....there is nothing making you buy these games early. Just so long as games are well marked as being 'early access' then I don't see the problem.
Re: Dan Adelman - Nintendo is "Very Much Aware" of Demand for a Unified Account System
@element187 that's good if they do, I'd rather just have the unified account though. That's better than call customer service and hopefully they don't give you a hard time.
Re: Dan Adelman - Nintendo is "Very Much Aware" of Demand for a Unified Account System
I think it's pretty important fixing up their account system. I like getting digital stuff, I'd feel better about it knowing that if my system explodes tomorrow, I can still log in with my account and get all that stuff on a new one.
Re: Review: Carps & Dragons (3DS eShop)
So...DOES it have dragons in it?
Re: Denis Dyack - "Actions Will Speak Volumes" as Precursor Games Seeks to Build Trust
I don't know. I'm sure they can be creative and whatnot, that's not why I distrust them. In their defense though, the money they're asking for really isn't a lot in terms of game development. If you think it's way more than they need, do some research...you'll be surprised how much game dev can cost.
Re: Giana Sisters: Twisted Dreams Aiming For August Arrival on the Wii U eShop
Oooh, cool. I'm sort of glad I never did end up buying it on PC then, I'd rather play it on my TV with something like the Gamepad.
Re: Rumour: Earthbound Set for the Wii U Virtual Console Today
$9.99? That's kind of...well...BS. I can't say I won't buy it anyway, but that's kind of a trick (assuming that it IS true and not just some mistake).
Re: FarSight Studios Aiming To Have The Pinball Arcade Released This September On Wii U
Oh my god, finally they've given some info. @_@ Thank you, I look forward to it.
Re: First Impressions: Yoshi's New Island
I really love Yoshi's Island, and I'm trying to give this one the benefit of the doubt, but hm. I really hope it lives up to my expectations, but I don't know if it can really.
Re: New 3DS Firmware Update 6.0.0-11U Now Live
It's still a good thing sans cloud, you couldn't back that stuff up seperately before.
Re: Spin The Bottle Will Adopt A Unique Pricing Structure For Wii U eShop
Huh, so is this like the WiiU eShop version of selling the alpha or beta of a game then? I don't mean this in an accusatory way, or anything like that, just thinking out loud.
Re: Platinum's Hideki Kamiya Gives Smash Bros. Fans Both Barrels
Haha, I don't blame him...people bother him endlessly on Twitter, usually with stupid questions/the same question over and over again.
Re: "Too Early" To Talk About Updates For Sniper Elite V2, Says Developer Rebellion
I have to admit I'm interested in this but I'm not so sure about buying it given the stuff that really should be in this version. Maybe if they reduce the price since (despite what they say) the WiiU version is the cut down version. Maybe it looks good, maybe the game is good, but it's kind of hard to swallow that.
Re: Shadow of the Eternals "Unlikely" To Be Released If Funding Methods Fail
@polynomer you didn't read the FAQ I quoted, eh? Oh well, whatever. We don't agree, we aren't going to agree. I'm glad you believe in them so (apparently?). Hopefully that trust is not misplaced.
Re: Shadow of the Eternals "Unlikely" To Be Released If Funding Methods Fail
@polynomer they do, if that's how your project on IndieGoGo is set up. It's a moot point, given they didn't use IndieGoGo and we don't know what they'd have chosen if they did.
"What if I don't reach my funding goal?
If your campaign is set up as Flexible Funding, you will be able to keep the funds you raise, even if you don't meet your goal. If your campaign is set up as Fixed Funding, all contributions will be returned to your funders if you do not meet your goal. Flexible Funding campaigns that meet their goal are only charged 4% as our platform fee, whereas campaigns that do not meet their goal are charged 9%."
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That's from IndieGoGo's FAQ page, by the way.
Re: Shadow of the Eternals "Unlikely" To Be Released If Funding Methods Fail
@polynomer Ok, on the PC thing I do think I perhaps read that wrong on reading the article once again (if the court indeed verified that the PCs were wiped that's that). It still doesn't seem 100% clear to me if that is what they are saying but ok...I'll just give you that one. Also, hey, it's good that they say they are going to refund the ones on their website, I hope that they do. The thing is...that's nothing but their word. As I said, on Kickstarter you're protected without a doubt on that much at least because there is a third party. Also, by the way, they could have went with IndieGoGo if they were having trouble with Kickstarter instead of making something that looked like Kickstarter. For a minute I honestly thought that it was some kind of embedded version of Kickstarter.
Anyway, again, as I said already...even if things did seem totally awesome to me, I don't think this is going to work out and thus wouldn't give them money. Like @WesGrogan I'm done with debating this since it's far out lived any kind of useful debate we could've had. Good luck, I really do hope they prove me wrong.
Re: Shadow of the Eternals "Unlikely" To Be Released If Funding Methods Fail
@polynomer here's a shocker for you, ready? It's my opinion! Just like what you're saying is your opinion! I'll grant you that the thing with the PCs isn't something anyone could ever prove (since it's their word). If none of it seems shady to you, great! That said, I wouldn't give money to something that to me seems pretty shady (that 'hey we're doing crowdfunding on this thing that's like Kickstarter but oh wait it's our website really' bit didn't help either...for a bit I actually thought that it WAS Kickstarter. At least on Kickstarter, I know you will definitely not be charged anything should it not meet it's goal..on their site I honestly have no clue).
Anyway, even if I didn't feel that way, I don't think that a team led by Denis Dyack can pull something like this off. It's clear that SK isn't what they were at one time, and this company staffed with a lot of SK people, also isn't what Silicon Knights once was. I think you misunderstand me, however...I'd love for them to prove me wrong on all of this, but I'm not going to donate my money towards something I don't feel is ever going to come out any way (seems like a bad investment, which again is what Kickstarter more or less is).
In the end, I don't agree with you and that's really all there is to it. Feel free to disagree, just don't expect to convince me.
Re: Shadow of the Eternals "Unlikely" To Be Released If Funding Methods Fail
@polynomer Oh my god man, I already did. If you're going to argue with me about this at least try to actually read what I'm posting. To re-iterate in the plainest of terms: At this point, I really don't trust any company with Denis Dyack in a directing/producing/management position to deliver a game that I would care to play (if they finish it at all). If you want any more details than that, try reading please. I'm done with talking about this, it's clear you're here only to argue about this (are you Precursor Games indeed...).