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Koichi Hayashida Explains Absence of NES Remix 1 & 2 on 3DS

Posted by Liam Doolan

Extra grunt of Wii U made it preferred platform

During an insightful exchange with IGN, NES Remix 1 & 2 Director Koichi Hayashida has explained how previous work with Super Mario 3D World, along with the power of Nintendo’s Wii U – and his own familiarity with the system's architecture – led to the development of the classic compilation remakes on the home console.

According to Hayashida-san, the Wii U offered Nintendo the power required to deliver the true “effect” it had envisioned of NES Remix since it was conceptualised.

“In order to accomplish what we wanted with NES Remix, and get the effect we wanted out of it and the value that we wanted it to have, we needed some more machine power,” he said.

I think the Wii U offered that up for us pretty easily, and it just would have been more difficult to do it for the 3DS...it's just that the Wii U had the machine power we were looking for in order for us to build the software we envisioned from the get go.

Bundling so many Nintendo classics in such a high-quality compilation, it perhaps comes as no surprise that maybe a little bit extra was needed. That said, considering some of the games we've seen that show the reasonable capabilities of the 3DS, perhaps familiarity with the system's architecture was the more prominent reason than raw power; the portable does seem to handle NES titles just fine on its Virtual Console, too.

While you wait for the release of NES Remix 2 later this week on the Wii U eShop, let us know in the comments if you would like to see the series make an appearance on 3DS.

[via au.ign.com]

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User Comments (43)

Sylverstone

#4

Sylverstone said:

I'l be up for a Game Boy Remix.

After all, it is the 25th Anniversary of the tried and true grey brick!

bofis

#5

bofis said:

But why isn't NES Remix 2 available as DLC to the original NES Remix?!

Retro_on_theGo

#6

Retro_on_theGo said:

Idk, the fact that the games could be portable is alone more than enough reason to put this on the 3DS imo. I just don't like playing these type of games on home consoles anymore.

TheWhiteFalcon

#7

TheWhiteFalcon said:

There's also the part where the 3DS has plenty of titles at the moment, and the Wii U needs more.

Obito_Tennyson

#9

Obito_Tennyson said:

This could all be avoidable if Nintendo would stop taking money from Youtube and prevent region locking. I don't understand Nintendo's probably with only games that were originally in that country. (Devil World; Fire Emblem) This would get more Youtubers to share the public how good Nintendo games are while making money, hence the viewers buying consoles also.

In return, I expect everything that Japan gets, only in English. This includes all the same global releases, Pokemon distributions, Virtual Console titles including MSX, and all the upcoming games published by Nintendo that would normally only be released in Japan. I don't care about the games by SEGA or Capcom, they could do whatever they want. I just want "YOUR" games, Nintendo.

MAN1AC

#11

MAN1AC said:

It seems like Nintendo is leaving money on the table with not having cross-buy/play available for some of these eShop titles. But who knows, maybe they have plans for remixes for the 3DS too.

sinalefa

#13

sinalefa said:

I actually prefer to play this on a big screen. I would love to have a unique portable series of Remixes on 3DS, as @OdnetninAges suggests.

But I guess that GBA Remix, if it gets done, will also go with Wii U.

BinaryFragger

#14

BinaryFragger said:

It's an understandable decision, but they really should have added multiplayer. It's a strange omission considering that Nintendo has always been at forefront of the local multiplayer experience.

I'll still be getting Remix 2, though. The first one was a lot of fun.

StephenYap3

#15

StephenYap3 said:

Nah, NES Remixes are good enough on Wii U. I'd rather see, as one user suggested, portable remixes on the 3DS.

JQuest

#16

JQuest said:

@MAN1AC it would certainly seem like it, but at the same time, folks like me don't help for the push for cross buy. I ended up spending 10 bucks on SMB3 for both platforms.

I think even if they didn't want to go the full cross buy route they could adopt a similar system like the Wii/Wii U where you get a discount for buying a game on one platform if you already bought it for the other.

Giygas_95

#17

Giygas_95 said:

@OdnetninAges GBA remix too! Of course the 3DS would probably need GBA VC first...That's more likely to happen to the Wii U now, but a GB/GBC remix would be great!

Rafie

#18

Rafie said:

I love NES Remix and think it's a well made game of our favorites. However, I'm calling b.s. on it "needing" the Wii U's power. Seriously?! It's an 8 bit game that I'm sure the Gamecube, or even the Nintendo 64 could do. The 3DS is helming games like the new Zelda, Fire Emblem, etc. Please tell me that he was joking about the 3DS version being more difficult. It's an 8bit game darn it!

The Wii U is MORE than capable of any 8, 16, 32, 64, 128bit, etc game and/or remix of one. Come on. Sorry for the rant. I just didn't like his statement about needing the Wii U's power for a game like this.

MamaLuigi

#20

MamaLuigi said:

They don't really need to bring the NES Remix games to 3DS; everything controls perfectly on the Gamepad. :)

Action51

#21

Action51 said:

This is why Nintendo is failing!!!!!

Just kidding, but it does seem like a weird statement, maybe it wasn't translated very well or he wasn't articulating his idea very well.

Also, Gameboy Remix FTW!

SetupDisk

#23

SetupDisk said:

While it would be possible some of the effects in the first one would be harder to pull off on 3DS. It's not just a 8 bit game, that's just the base visual presentation.

3DSLUIGI

#24

3DSLUIGI said:

I will agree with what some have said about a GAME BOY Remix for the 3DS. For some strange reason, I was thinking about that before when I saw one of the first trailers for NES Remix 2 after it was announced in the last Nintendo Direct we had I think back in February. The only problem is if a GAME BOY Remix was done based on GAME BOY games only, what games would you be able to add next to Super Mario Land , Tetris , Dr. Mario and Kirby's Dream Land. In closing, I will say it would have been nice to see both NES Remix and NES Remix 2 show up on 3DS also. But maybe with Nintendo , they're aiming with those kind of games just for the consoles seeing as they were all console games and not portable games.

DualWielding

#26

DualWielding said:

I don't know about game development, but find hard to believe the 3DS could not be able to hang what is basically an NES Rom Hack, this is about as believable as Game Freak's claiming 3DS was not powerful enough to run x/Y graphics in 3D

Rin-go

#28

Rin-go said:

I don't think he said that the 3DS isn't powerful enough, just that what they wanted was easier to do on the Wii U. If they had a specific concept in mind, why not go for the device that makes that concept possible?

And why would it need to be on the 3DS anyway? The 3DS could get remixes based on handhelds.
First people want more games for the Wii U and then it's like "Why isn't it on 3DS, too?!", but if it would be on 3DS, too, it would be like "Guess, they don't want to sell any Wii Us" or "They've given up on the Wii U".

tanasten

#30

tanasten said:

Nintendo loved up things really bad this gen with clumsy hardware. I hope they learn definitively the lesson for the next gen. They're going to suffer by low sales the years to come due to this.
Please watch the profanity — TBD

ULTRA-64

#31

ULTRA-64 said:

Really stupid way to show why Wii u was used for these!! The 3ds is obviously powerful enough as it has Segas 3d classic games on the go already. Now if he said " we were desperate to get some releases out soon and it's quicker/easier to develop for the Wii u " I would believe him !
I prefer them on the Wii u so no gripes from me

eviLaTtenDant

#33

eviLaTtenDant said:

While it would be sad if the NES Remix games only were on the 3DS and not the Wii U the gameplay and Miiverse features would be a perfect fit for a portable system. And since you can also download a lot of NES games on the 3DS it would be stupid not to offer the Remixes on the 3DS one day imo.


I agree that "Game Boy Remix" games could be awesome and i'd also love to see some co-op levels in future "Remix" titles. Maybe as DLC?
A competetive mode where you play the same levels side-by-side wouldn't hurt either. Yes, even online.


Now if we could get something like this for all the fine third party classics it would feel like a hell of a celebration of some of the greatest games ever made.

MAB

#34

MAB said:

Well it's not surprising to me at all... The 3DS is more comparative to a Leap Frog device ;)

WaLzgiStaff

#35

WaLzgi said:

@bofis Why would it be? It has enough content to be a separate entry. You could just download it and pretend it's DLC ;)

WaLzgiStaff

#36

WaLzgi said:

@Obito_Tennyson Except some titles are download-only, which would still be region-locked on a download service. PSN is also region locked.

rdrunner1178

#37

rdrunner1178 said:

@3DSLUIGI I agree that the console games fit better on console, and a Game Boy Remix would be cool for 3DS. There are lots of other games they could use too besides those you mentioned: Donkey Kong, Metroid II, Wave Race, Baseball, Golf, Kirby Pinball, Link's Awakening, Yoshi, Kid Icarus 2, Radar Mission...

unrandomsam

#39

unrandomsam said:

@Unca_Lz Yeah but with the PS3 you can have accounts in all three regions on the same console. With the Vita you just need to change memory cards. (Vita situation being a bit more annoying but still quite practical other than lots of the Japan only good PSP stuff is not on PSN yet.) Plus with it being account based you don't have the issues if something goes wrong trying to get it repaired. (Can just buy a new one simply). Very low risk.

Henmii

#42

Henmii said:

"it's just that the Wii U had the machine power we were looking for in order for us to build the software we envisioned from the get go"

Nonsense! We are talking about mini-games based on NES titles. Every console/handheld that is as strong or stronger then a NES can handle it!

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