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This very much looks like a nifty concept for buggering about with but won't deliver a decent gaming experience outside of a lab.

Essentially, if a game ever lags it's rubbish but normally games won't lag if the neighbour starts drilling on the wall near your router.

@tillyboo aye, I got mixed up because the article saying it's off Switch games and consoles when actually it's off everything over £25 (t&cs notwithstanding).

@RupeeClock I re-read the post after going to order and realised that the prices that Nintendo Life are listing are with the BIGTHANKS code applied.

@JR150 same here, the pixel art thing leaves me totally cold.

@Toadie There's already Farfetch'd holding a leek for Wales.

@justin233 "Please don't let Grookey's final form look awful..."

Yeh, tell me about it. Bloody Serperior..

@JaxonH quote from the Team Cherry blog post:

'As a backer, your support made this happen, so you’ll of course be receiving your copy of Hollow Knight: Silksong 100% free.'

@nintendo_idiots it's exclusive to that particular console. At most I'd say a little misleading but not actually wrong. Unlike your comment about it coming to Switch later than PC/Linux/Mac which is entirely wrong

@nintendo_idiots they said PC/Linux/Mac/Switch initially and possibly others later.

Nice of them to keep it free for Kickstarter backers too, with it being a full game they could quite easily have not done that. It looks absolutely brilliant, I cannot wait.

@Thumbsofsteel never mind Switch games, I've put more hours into this since my party of level 99s in Final Fantasy 7 some twenty-odd years ago. It truly is something very special.

Best Valentine's Day ever.

@Grumblevolcano I take comfort from the fact that physical books have had a resurgence from ebooks and hope the same thing will happen with console games. If I'm buying a book or game I want my children to be able to inherit it.

Oh good lord I'm out.

@Lionyone I would kill or die for Hollow Knight amibos.

@Geobros I think Team Cherry cancelling the previous release is a good sign that they want to do it properly.

10+.. That probably explains the concerns of my six year old son's teacher when he was telling her about his favourite game where you hit monsters with a sword and steal their souls.

@SwitchForce I'm afraid I don't understand what you're getting at despite the EMPHASIS on certain words.

I think that's why the 'fair and open competition' approach of the welsh government is good - the people doing the pre-interview sift and scoring don't see name, age or any other biographical info. It's not perfect as certain things can still be implied but it's a step in the right direction.

@bloodycelt o/ from Wales, arguably the original home of the bloodycelts

I think there's certainly something to be said for the value of the experience of people from diverse backgrounds. People from many backgrounds will have had more trouble achieving the same level of qualifications and skills as others and that is a consideration. I'd be more inclined to employ an oxbridge graduate from a minority group than the alternatives because their achievements demonstrate a lot more resilience and dedication.

Though the minority argument does somewhat break down when you're talking about women but if you have a man and a woman with identical skills and experience, the woman has worked harder to get there.

@JasmineDragon lol, that last paragraph of his post did make me think it was an acutely-observed parody.

@Dezzy I think that was sort of the point I was making but it doesn't account for the amount of conditioning that happens before the aforementioned diverse biochemical environments emerge.

@Not_Soos I think it's just a weird semantic thing, like 'black people' compared to 'blacks' or 'jewish people' compared to 'jews'. I am tediously politically-correct so I may well be out of step with majority views.

@Dezzy the arguments regarding physical potential (I say that rather than strength and speed because I am weaker and slower than a hell of a lot of women) are obviously ludicrous because of the drastically different biochemical environments that men and women live in post-puberty. On balance I think, particularly in young children, environment and social biases affect behaviour far more than biology but that's based more on my own experiences and observations rather than any serious research into the topic.

@Not_Soos funnily enough, yes. I wouldn't say it's a double standard particularly through as 'males' aren't subject to the same level of discriminatory pressures, if any.

@Dezzy my son and my daughter were being treated differently by the people around them from birth, cultural biases and expectations crop up instantly.

@Not_Soos I can let you off for simply mirroring the language of the article. It's one of those weird quirks, like 'gay people' sounds alright but 'gays' sounds less alright. I can't particularly explain why other than English is weird.

'females' always sounds a little weird. Could be a translation artefact in the article, less so in the comments.

@AndreaF96 yep, it's absolutely an aesthetic thing for me. What I've played of Celeste has been fantastic, I'd just be slightly more likely to keep going back to it if the art style was different.

@AndreaF96 aye, I know I'm in the minority but I don't feel the nostalgia in quite the same way. The example I'd cite is Hollow Knight - quite classical mechanics but with lovely art. It drew me in far more than nostalgic pixel art can. And I'm definitely the age that should like pixel art.

I think with Celeste I'd find it massively more compelling if the game looked like the menus. The running animation during loading is lovely.

@Aslanmagic I've only done the first few levels and found it tough but not annoyingly so. Your respawn is nice and quick so it doesn't become a drag. There's also the Assist Mode which lets you alter the difficulty. I've not resorted to it yet but I'm sure I will.

The thing that annoys me with a lot of indie games is the pixel art. Do some drawing you guys.

I don't really understand what the limiting factor is with regards to netflix and other things appearing on it. Presumably Nintendo just rubber stamp things rather than say what can go on there so I'm not sure why the apps haven't been developed. Seems like it would be pretty trivial.

@ReaderRagfish it's totally different, the logo is orangey at the bottom while the Rayman Legends one is more orangey at the top.

That is an incredibly niche product.

Oh that's such a shame, they made lovely books. I suppose the shift to games not being a static thing was bound to render guide books redundant but it really is a shame.

£17.99 on Amazon UK:

http://amzn.eu/d/do1lP1K

@Quarth the mind boggles. The people arguing are like some sort of performance piece about terrible gaming people. It's a new magazine not a new psychic brain parasite.

What the bloody hell is going on in this comments section?

@RadioHedgeFund whole sections where you're battered by an indestructible Nanny appearing at random.

I can still sing the theme tune for Count Duckula to this day.

Come on, Ronnie!

It's psychology research, you're not supposed to take it seriously.