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This is absolutely, utterly incredible—And simultaneously gut-wrenching.

I mean Super Metroid is forever the best but I also gave Prime 1 and Zero Mission a 10.

Yeah, there's nothing wrong with the setting being in the game at all--It's the fact that it's allowed in public, online play that's ridiculous. It'd be like if you could play Street Fighter ranked matches and let an AI fight for you.

@manu0 Lol I think you're vastly overestimating how much music is in the game, and underestimating how much can fit on a single disk.

It's nice and I'll probably nab it, but what are with these stupid "sound selection CDs" they're so fond of. Is it not feasible to get the full soundtrack for Pete's sake?

Every single game released on the console should have ProCon support lol — Would be 100% inexcusable to not have it.

Agree with the others in this thread. The fact that you can't initiate a full power-down with the controllers is absolutely insane.

@Qun_Mang I'd be down for that. Their fee for the paid subscription is so cheap, who cares.

Was initially scared because Inti Creates but this actually looks pretty good. Interested in the reviews.

"...the firmness of Nintendo's wording makes us suspect this may end up being something of a non-issue; it could be that some form of cloud storage for save game data will form part of the company's online subscription service, which launches in full at the close of this year."

I think you're over-estimating them lol. This is Nintendo. Knowing them, there will be no save data solution, and if you lose your system/the system breaks — Tough luck. Start from scratch, valued customer!

@thomasbw84 Thanks for the preview, I do have a question:

One thing that concerned me about initial gameplay footage was the fact that you could pause and eat at any time--Even during combat. I hate it when action RPGs do this. A good example is the original NieR on PS3. That game is so mind-numbingly easy because any time you ever get low on health, even during a boss fight, you can simply pause and heal. You never die.

This seems to be the same in BotW as well, and yet I hear many outlets calling it the most challenging Zelda since the NES era. If you can heal at any time, how can this be?

Dang, his parents must have been freaking loaded lol. They have good taste though. The games they got him of their own volition were better than the ones he asked for.

@allav866 I know, I was pretty disappointed in NL as well. Got on the hype train wayyyyy too fast.

@Lucina Well I mean that's kind of stating the obvious. It's a Nintendo console. Of course we'll eventually get a 3D Mario. Of course we'll eventually get Mario Kart. It's just that they may end up looking nothing at all like this concept footage shown in this trailer.

Cannot believe people are even surprised/shocked/disappointed by this. People like @Lucina are just in complete denial of the facts, lol--Bethesda came out publicly and said the footage was only conceptual and they had no Switch titles to announce at this time.

I was under the impression everyone knew this was a concept reel--I took none of these games (save Zelda, obviously) as anything more than pre-rendered examples. Couldn't believe it when sites started reporting THESE 5 SWITCH GAMES CONFIRMED.

@dres My Vita and 3DS XL fit into my pockets very easily, lol. You don't need a bag for either.

@dres Succeeds the 3DS, okay. So are you and everyone else gonna lug a tote bag around for your Switch? Versus the 3DS/Vita/smartphone which easily fits in your pocket?

@Caryslan No, we're not looking at another Wii lol. The Wii's success rode on a gimmick--A phenomenon we'll never again see repeated. Granted, I love the Wii and its library. I'm just stating the facts.

I see what you're saying about how does Nintendo set themselves apart from Sony and MS and all that. I really do get it--But at the same time, I don't really see how Switch does the job either. All it is, when you really look at it, is an underpowered console that you can pop off a dock and take places. I think when most people really stop and think, they'll find that they actually have little use for such functionality.

@Caryslan Again, it's not about smartphones being better than dedicated gaming consoles. It's about Switch not having the portability people think it has. It can't fit in your pocket. You want to carry a doggone bag everywhere you go just so you can tote your Switch around?

@Nintendian Yes, gameplay does drive Nintendo consoles--But that doesn't mean they can't accomplish that and have relevant power inside the console. They got so close with Switch. All they needed to do was screw the portability aspect and they would have been golden. Instead, we have to compromise so you can take it off that stupid dock once every 6 months for 10 minutes.

@invictus4000 Again, I don't think they're necessarily comparing the two as much as they're saying:

"You can fit a smartphone (or even a portable console) in your pocket. You can't fit Switch in your pocket."

It has no convenient portability, and people aren't going to be bothered to take it with them versus any other portable device.

I don't think the reaction is so surprising.

Maybe the investors wanted, gee, I don't know, an actual home console to actually compete with the PS4 and One? Is that so much to ask?

Once again, Nintendo dumps their whole dev budget into creating an underpowered device with a silly gimmick rather than creating a powerful gaming platform that isn't years behind its competition. The "take it anywhere" gimmick of Switch isn't as great as people are making it out to be--It only takes some very basic critical thinking to realize this.

I realize people are cringing about the smartphone comment because "ew, smartphones" and I agree, I hate smartphone gaming too. But I think you guys are missing the point. It's not so much that "Angry Birds is better than Mario" but more that people aren't going to carry a doggone iPad with controllers stuck to the side around with them. If they have 10 minutes to kill out and about, they're not packing the Switch for that, they're gonna pull their smartphone out and play a quick round of something, or if not gaming just hang out on Twitter/Reddit or something. In my case, I would pull out my 3DS--Another pocket device that easily fits in my pocket and can be conveniently carried anywhere.

I know some people have lifestyles where the Switch will be useful, but for me personally, I can't think of a single situation where Switch's portability will be convenient. I have a 30 minute daily work commute by car, and I do most of my gaming at home. Even my portable consoles get mostly used on my couch at home. And when I do take them out of the house, they go in my pocket. I'm not taking my backpack everywhere just to tote my Switch around.

Even say, the Japanese, who you would think this would work really well for--When I think about it, I'm not even sure they're going to like this. I lived in Japan for a short period last year, and the trains were always lined with people playing on a smartphone or a 3DS/Vita. I'm not sure even they're going to want to carry around a clunky device they can't fit in their pocket. Granted, the Japanese like to carry bags a lot more than most Westerners do, but even still, why bother when they have phones or portable consoles already?

I just don't get it. I just don't get why Nintendo can't make a modern, high-spec console that's a true-blue console.

Lol at people thinking this can coexist alongside consoles. Why would Nintendo make quality console games when they can make billions of this?

@TrueWiiMaster Not really. I don't really call linear, individual missions "exploration." This game really has almost nothing from Metroid's core at all.

@TrueWiiMaster You essentially say yourself that the heart of Metroid is the exploration. This game doesn't revolve around exploration in the slightest. It's a mission-based co-op shooter. Even Hunters had some openness to it.

@shaneoh "...it's not an exact match for what I had in mind, but I can live with that."

That's really the key phrase right there. If you like the game, that's great. But I think if you're really honest with yourself, you know that a game about the Federation could have been something much, much more than this.

@Aurelis I'm not a huge Other M fan, but it's most certainly a Metroid game. A weak Metroid game, with an unfortunate portrayal of Samus, but a Metroid game nonetheless with a few redeeming qualities.

@TrueWiiMaster Comparing Mario and Metroid isn't really fair lol. Mario is a goofy, cartoon-esque series that can be whatever you want it to be without sacrificing any kind of image or lore. Mario is great whether he's fighting 1000-year-old demons or playing golf.

Metroid is sort of this "holy grail" series made up of a handful of legendary titles. Even Mario has his bombs. Every Metroid game ever made (except maybe Other M) has been immaculate and has set a very high standard. They've also laid down a very serious and sensitive lore and image for the series.

Sorry, taking a series like that and suddenly making it a cartoon-y, bland, co-op game on a whim is a slap in the face no matter how you look at it.

There are a lot of people saying things like, "DON'T HATE THE GAME BEFORE YOU'VE EVEN PLAYED IT," etc. etc. And there's a lot of merit to what they're saying. Because, they're right--In a sense, I think there are a lot of times where you really can't truly judge a game unless you've played it first.

That being said, what I think those people fail to realize in this case is that this game should have never been a Metroid game. Even if it is a halfway decent co-op shooter (and I'm sure it is), it should had never borne the Metroid name. No Metroid fan wanted this, and if you're honest with yourself you'll realize that all this was, was an attempt to make a new IP sell better by slapping "Metroid" on the front. Which is, quite frankly, super lame on Nintendo's part.

So it's not so much about trying to paint this game as "THE WORST OF ALL TIME" or some nonsense. It's that this is an irreverent and cheap use of a legendary franchise. No one asked for Baby's First Metroid: Chibi-Force.

They could probably stand to patch out to be safe, but I agree with @FatherChesz — The Sonic cast have always made those weird grunts in their games. I still remember my parents flipping out because Knuckles in Sonic Heroes makes this sort of "SHI" sound every time he starts a combo.

@C-Olimar Not even a Nintendo game, technically. Nintendo doesn't own the Pokemon IP, and they didn't internally develop this game. It's just some nostalgia-preying, cash-grab mobile game that couldn't even be bothered to implement an actual Pokemon battle system.

Dang Damien, I expect more of you. Endorsing garbage like this.

@Sn0wCrack Thank you guys so, so very much for doing such a good deed for the community, free of charge. Preserving the game's original form, and making it available to us who aren't fluent in Japanese is really something. Please ignore the idiots in this thread who attempt to discredit your work, or assert that you are some kind of pervert/fanatic.

You guys are appreciated! Keep fighting the good fight!

@Jin15 Says the guy with a MLP avatar hoooooo boy.

@Jin15 By just assuming that everyone wants to de-censor it so they can have a pedophile fap-fest, you're the one who's sexualizing it in that way.

@Camilla

@Camilla Whewww someone's triggered that they were wrong. Dang lol.

@BulbasaurusRex If you think this game's main target demographic is young teenagers then boyyyy do I have a bridge to sell you.

@MadAdam81 You seriously think more people are going to buy it because they took out the bikinis/breasts and re-wrote some dialog? Man, you are seriously blind lol.

@Wexter I understand the "risks" lol...I'll take my chances.

@Camilla You're still not listening to me, what are you five? Watch this video, since you obviously can't read.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhSRGH5PVdk

@Wexter I know what a EULA is, "mate." I also work in IT — Not that that's relevant, since everyone under the sun (IT or not) knows what a "EULA" is. And guess what? People violate them and get away with it all the time lol.

Oh no not my warranty. I'm so scared.

@Camilla Lol well they upped Tsubasa's age to 18 in the US release, and still censored her anyway, so that logic doesn't really apply. Plus, the "black smoke" I'm referring to is in relation to a grown woman character in #FE who has a rack the size (maybe smaller, even) as Camilla, but it's censored out by black smoke. So, again, You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

Also, your "petting wafu thing shouldnt been in the game in the first place" comment just furthers shows your "fanboy-istic" naivety. Nintendo could put Bayonetta in a long skirt and blouse, make her speak like a church organ player, and change the angels/demons to lawn gnomes and you'd still probably defend Uncle Ninty to the death.

@Wexter No one that does this ever gets banned from NN lol. You don't know what you're talking about. It's like how emulation or torrenting is "technically" against the law, but nothing ever happens to anyone who practices it.

In any case, if they did actually want to ban me — Let them. I'll take my games in their original states over playing MK8 on Nintendo's sucky network any day.

@Camilla You do you.

Btw, does seeing Camilla's rack make anyone else wonder why, despite all the things they ripped out/censored in Fire Emblem Fates, Camilla didn't get black smoke covering her boobs eternally? Or a nice V-neck sweater?

@Camilla Clearly you didn't read the article, because it says that if you don't do it properly (which you wouldn't if you were following instructions, so what's the issue?) then you might mess up your save data for #FE, if you already have some. Says nothing about bricking your Wii U.

And the hackers save the day once again. Suck it, Nintendo.

@Wexter I had heard that Nep Nep Rebirth 1 had a pretty rough English translation. But I didn't hear anything about censorship or cut content on it.

Also, when it comes to voicing our complaints to Nintendo, who are the people you recommend e-mailing/tweeting?

Yeah, that does it. Canceling my pre-order. Why should I pay $80 for a butchery when I can play an actually well-localized RPG in my backlog like Persona or Nep Nep?

@BRAINFOX

Wow. Interesting find on those posts. Good job, Nintendo, What a joke.

@Adamario Literally no one in this thread is complaining about the age change lol. It's people like you that poison "gamer culture" in the first place.

@DarkKirby I never said it was completely on Atlus--In fact, I know for a fact that Nintendo is forcing this stuff down their throat. Just a shame that they're sitting there and taking it.

@DarkKirby Sure they have the "right" to do it. There are a lot of scummy, d-bag things I can do in this life that are legal lol.

@ROBLOGNICK Let's not be ridiculous.