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That's simply incorrect. The mobile environment is a flawed, unfriendly, crowded space where making real money it's more hard than it seems, and it could very well be counterproductive in the long run. Just look at japan, which is the country with the second best revenue from app store in the world (https://techcrunch.com/2016/01/20/china-poised-to-overtake-u-s-japan-in-ios-revenue-within-the-next-year/) and still that's not enough (http://www.siliconera.com/2017/05/19/100-smartphone-games-terminated-service-japan-just-first-four-months-2017/). Also looking at math: how many of those 650 million of GO players even made an in-app purchase? Isn't a steady secure entry price point a better revenue model than a freemium tier that may or may not ensure revenue? GO has been probably the most downloaded game of all times with 650 million downloads, let's say that every one of those downloads spent a dollar (which they didn't) the game would have made the same cash that SM's sales did (16-ish millions x 40 dollars). It's also hurting devs and IPs. because it's watering them down without actually bringing any new real money in. The mobile space is so flicke, tumultuous, rapid and inconsistent, how the hell can it be considered a better investment over traditional games it's out of my comprehension. It's not. And if devs don't start to treat their IPs better they're going to hurt in the long run.

@JubilifeRival It may not be P2W but it's surely questionable. It's buggy, laggy and lacks any gameplay. It's more like a Pokémon themed fitness app (and not even a good one, because that could have been a neat idea if the app was a proper fitness app, which it isn't) . And worst crime of it all it's just Ingress with Pokémon in it, there is nothing, and I mean nothing, that remotely resembles real Pokémon titles on GO. To add insult to the injury the entire business plan has been disastrous (slow rollout of later generations, no events, no legendaries, no incentive to play in the long run, no trade which was an essential part of why Pokémon became what it is now during its earlier days) and it's the quintessential "fluke everyone played for a weekend and now few barely remember it" app. I wish devs would get over mobile, it's clear that it isn't worth it. Really the best thing that one can say about GO is that it isn't even half shilling as other mobile titles, which is hardly a compliment.

Can we have proper pokémon spin-offs back instead of this bonanza of questionable pay2win mobile titles?

@chardir I don't want to move my arms period. I get that the mode is fun and I can see myself busting out the Switch with some friends and play it together like that, but if they're going to have a serious competitive scene they need real controlling inputs. Period. I've read that the game is definitely compatible with the pro controller, but I haven't read anything about the joy-con yet. It seems logic that if the game is compatible with the pro you could play also with the joycons, but the lack of mention makes me scared that joycon force you to use motion controllers. Which I get, it's fun. But it's also imprecise and tiring.

I'm usually not big on fighting games but this looks rad and I'm considering getting it, only one question: can I play with normal joycons, right? I'm no mood to flap my arms around alone in my room like during the Wii era, especially since the game main mode is the ranked online play.

Making the Switch a success is really easy
>kill 3DS
>bring mainline Pokémon and Animal Crossing to the Switch
>convince all the DS-3DS big franchises / dev to move on the Switch (Monster Hunter, Level 5 games..)
>sell dockless Switch for 199$

Then there is no way it isn't going to print money.

I'll never understand people (mainly reddit and r/nintendoswitch) freak out about the Switch power. Apparently people wanted a tablet powerful like a PS4 Pro with a 1440p screen that could play all the boring multiplat titles with a ever lasting battery. I don't care about any of that and I think you people are misreading the Switch. All I want from the Switch is a decent powered HD handheld that can be hooked up to the tv to play all the Nintendo exclusives in one place (no more buying 2 consoles!!), with the usual nintendo handheld 3rd party support (Atlus, Level 5..), the indies and, if everything goes my way, all the japanese exclusive that currently the Vita has (alas, the weebo games). Who cares about the big AAA titles, there are PS4/XBONE/PC for those..

This was obvious. They need to show the true potential of the Switch, having all Nintendo's eggs in one basket. It's going to be called Pokémon Prism though.

As many, I've already played the games, and trust people, they're worth it.
And in honor of my avatar, I think we must all thank Youkai Watch for these splendid games. After the rushed and bland generation VI, I thought that Pokemon was going in a bad direction, but YW's success really made the people at Game Freak step up their games. Better yet, they took the best element of YW (the deep sense of immersion) which also happens to be a correction of the biggest flaw and disappointment of generation six.
Kudos to you, Game Freak, you've got my trust again. Now if only you let go the stupid idea that 80ish new pokemon for each generation are enough, because they're not. Also bring cross generation evolution back.

Of course they're. The Switch is their next main and only platform, they're going to close business on 3DS too by next christmas.

I get it Nintendo, the Wii U it's a sadly misunderstood great piece of overpriced electronics with a lot of good games on it, but on that day of March when the Switch is finally going to be on the shelves, having also 3 (somewhere still 5) models of the 3DS and the Wii U there is going to hurt sales and confuse people picking up Breath of The Wild. It's over, just let it go already.

I must say that after the utterly disaster that XY and ORAS were from the point of view of a longtime pokémon fan (for different reasons, though) I wasn't hyping Sun and Moon, but this summer Game Freak showed so many good ideas that it is really difficult not to hype the game right now. But there are also Rhythm Heaven (can't wait for this one), Shantae and Stardew Valley, so these are my votes.
Still hyping Yokai Watch 2 more though (if only we had a EU release date..)

I call codswallop on this. Enough with these "the handheld market is dead because casuals have left for smartphones", it doesn't make any sense. The people playing with their smartphones (myself, and I think everyone else included) do so because.. well everyone's got one. It doesn't change that it's a chaotic, cashgrabbing and meaningful market with very few actually decent games. Everyone that wants to really play a videogame without being annoyed by in-app purchases and minimal depth knows that they're going to need a good PC or a console. The videoludic market shrinked because we're still in the midst of the worst economic crisis since the 30s, and it's inevitable in the second phase of an economic crisis, the rebounding, that entertainment and leisures lose steam, especially when in most countries the rebound has been financial only (which means that the stock market rebounded to pre-crisis level, the rich are richer and the rest is poorer).
A single console in line with eurogames reported is a tremendous idea for Nintendo (but again, they really should try to find a way to sell at least one configuration of the machine for 199 dollars, the magic number under which electronic becomes mainstream), because is about putting Nintendo main strenght, meaning their franchises, in one place. A single console with the next mainline Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, Metroid and Animal Crossing may not become a staggering success as the DS or the Wii were, but is going to sell well enough to keep Nintendo going and happy. The only real market that has been eroded is kids, because parents now let their kids play with their smartphone instead of buying dedicated devices but there are ways around that:
>advertise in tv, a lot
>push with the "there's no need for a credit card, buy a game and let your children play" narrative, there have been countless cases of children taking their parents' smartphone and spending fortunes on in-app purchases, parents are afraid
>push with the idea that Nintendo owned games are bright, family friendly and fun
>invite as many japanese and independent studio as possible, push the idea that the NX is a good machine with a lot of good games (it worked for the 3DS, despite all the technical difficulties)
The market is there and it's more than enough. If mobile gaming really was going to be the doom of handheld, it should have happened with the 3DS, it's not going to happen now that the smartphone market is not going to grow anymore and everyone's already got a device, alas smartphones can become an asset, with small gateway games to push people into the real deal

But how is movement going to work on smartphone? Finger on screen? Buttons? Price? What the trump is Level 5 doing, I love the attention for details and creativity that they put in their games, but this new smartphone/3DS plan is unclear (and probably stupid, don't cross that line Level 5, DON'T, we don't want new Konamis).

How is this coming on smartphones? Botched in a free game with buyable in-game puzzles? Or are they going to put a 40$ game on App Store? Or even worse, are they going to pretend 40$ for the 3DS version and 10$ for the iOS one, and then proceed to be pirated like a 2004 pokemon game on Android? This is stupid.
Level 5, do you want a Layton game on Mobile? Great, I do too. But a this point, take the Nintendo approach and just develop a new one that can survive in the mobile environment, and leave the real games to the real gaming machines.

Q1 is always the quietest quarter for gaming companies.. not many big releases during late spring, plus Nintendo has basically pushed their last efforts (everything else is now on NX, this much is pretty clear) on 3DS and Wii U obviously during the fall, so not many surprises here..
But I keep thinking that on a financial standpoint not announcing NX until September is a terrible idea. Announcing NX at E3/now would have reassured the investors, then they could have concentrated their fall's efforts in on the 3DS/Wii U price cut for christmas season, the last round of 1st/2nd party games, the new mobile games and maybe some new amiibos (at this point it's time for the nuclear option: pokémon amiibo cards). Announcing NX in September means that NX will steal everyone else's thunder, price cut or not people will want the NX after the announcement, and the problem is that the NX won't be so far. Price cut or not, why buy a 3DS/Wii U? At least the 3DS can count on kids thanks to the price cut, but the Wii U is pretty much doomed. This is another GBA/GC/DS situation, when Nintendo said that the DS was a "third pillar" and not a sub for the GameBoy line, and then...
P.S. If NX is really an hybrid as described by yesterday's sketchy rumors, what do you guys think of the Nintendo 7 name? Seven is by far the easiest number to publicize, it would finally stick to people as a new console (no more Wii/Wii U confusion, that was one of the biggest mistakes Nintendo has ever done), plus the 7 can symbolize the fact that NX is the seventh family of Nintendo mainstream consoles (1: Famicon family; 2: GameBoy family; 3:Nintendo 64; 4: GameCube; 5: DS family; 6: Wii family)

If this is true (and cheap), it will be a winning idea. Handheld is Nintendo turf, and they can count on:
>at least 3 decades of Nintendo dominance in the sector, with the huge library that comes with. If all the people that have been developing for DS/3DS jump on NX, it will be huge
>their own franchises, not divided anymore. People this is huge, because all NX game will be on NX. This means Mario, Pokemon and Zelda all on the same hardware, plus Animal Crossing, Metroid, Fire Emblem..
>they place themselves as a niche and not in competition with Sony/Microsoft

@DarkSynopsis Are you american or European? If you're American, wait the end of September, skip the first and play the second. If you're European, pick up the first. I've got a feeling that they're gearing up for a December release in Europe, which is 8 reasonably months after the first came out (against the 10 in US), and a month away from Pokémon Sun and Moon. The first one is a great game once you get into the groove (so once you realise it has almost nothing to do with pokémon and its charm lies in its humor), but the 2 fixes almost every problem of the first, plus is way bigger (and mind, YW is already a pretty big game). It's up to you. The first has no online functions, which is probably the main point against it, and it's terribly RGN based. But it's fun nonetheless, I had way more fun playing YW than I had playing both Pokémon X and Alpha Sapphire. It's an incredibly detailed, funny and charming RPG.
@kamikazilucas Why. In proportion to the population the game was and is more successful in countries that are more prone towards Japan culture like France, Italy and Spain, that it has been in the US. It was never not going to release here, the only question is when.

@TheWPCTraveler It's just two days though. That 1,2 million of YW2 were sold in a week. Not that YW3 is going to double its numbers in a week, but it's still pretty much a great success. There are other circumstances to take into account. YW mania was at its peak in 2014, now is old news. Japanese economy is in much worse shape, especially the gaming industry. I mean, if Level5 though to top the YW2 numbers they're delusional, and I don't think so since 40% of the inventory means they produced a million and something copies so far, which is what YW2 sold in a week. The franchise is still pretty huge, no game as sold nearly as much in 2016 in Japan, but I do think that they need to let it breath. But apparently they think so too, since they've 3 big free updates planned for YW3 but no YW4 in sight. The franchise needs to breath and find its footing worldwide. I'm confident that Level5 has learnt its lesson in milking franchises too quickly. Plus anime and mercha are still going strong. Also maybe launching when everyone is talking about Pokemon wasn't the best idea, not that they could have known that. But given the state of the industry in 2016, I'm pretty confident that Sun and Moon won't sell as much as XY either. The pre orders are already lower than XY's ones (another exciting proof that GO won't matter anything). Also making main line games at the end of a console lifespan isn't exactly the best idea.

@BensonUii Yokai GO would make way more sense than Pokemon GO. It's basically the exact same premise as the main franchise, only with smartphone instead of watches.

Man from what I've gathered online so far (thank god YW is developing a niche following in the west), YW3 looks even bigger and deeper than the 2, which was already big and deep enough. Now if they want the franchise to last, to seriously last like Pokemon, they need to slow down with the main entries and let the west catch up. 3 main series games in 3 years is just nuts, especially when even Busters was such a success.
For the sales drop.. I guess that Yokai Watch mania already peaked. Plus the Japanese gaming industry is in much worse shape than it was in 2014. Plus probably a lot of people decided to wait because last time L5 took everyone by surprise announcing Shinuchi and maybe people decided to wait this time around (even if L5 already said that there is no third version and no YW4 in sight and that they want to use 2016/2017 to let the franchise breath, which is a pretty unusual statement from gotta-go-fast-level-5).
Anyway, can't wait for YW2 in the west, I just wish they would release a date for Europe already, but I'm afraid we're going to wait a lot, because the US date is too soon and then there's Pokemon Sun and Moon in the fall. They're not going to release YW2 around Sun and Moon. It's probably going to be the beginning of next year ..

P.S. Selling >600k copies in 2 days is struggling now?

@arrmixer Like the Wii U was such a success because the Wii was a phenomenon? I'm sorry but hard data count more. Games on App Store / Google Play, burn brighter (because, I mean, we're talking about a 3 billion devices user base) and die quicker. In 6 months GO will be a 100th-ish-in-the-top-charts app with only the usual pokemon nerds playing. The Wii example is exceptionally correct because even if the console was absurdly popular, it brought nothing to Nintendo popularity in the long run. For a gaming company the mobile environment isn't ready to be the future yet. If and when Apple and Google Windows10-fy their OSs, and console truly become something more on the line of XBox-play-anywhere, maybe we can talk again. In the meantime I hope Nintendo is smart enough to focus on NX and understand that mobile gaming as of now is a toxic, dangerous environment.

lol at "thanks to Pokemon GO", the point isn't Pokemon GO. Nintendo has a minor role in the project and makes less cash than Apple and Google from it.
The investor frenzy is more on the line of "wake up Nintendo, you're the company with the most recognizable and saleable set of characters not named Disney, it's time to break the shell and conquer the world, and we want profit from that!", investors probably want movies and tv shows and theme parks and stuff.
But everything will be forgotten when in 4 months nobody will have GO on their phone anymore, Wii U and 3DS will be the least sold console during christmas period and Nintendo still won't announce none of the above because well, it's Nintendo (in the meantime I fully expect the NX to be just another gimmick and more cashbait of the one-month-at-the-top-of-the-app-store type instead of real games).

EDIT: Again, for the people that begin to jump at me every time I express my disdain for Pokemon GO. Of course here, on a site for Nintendo nerds, you're hyped as hell for it and especially the oldest of you are beginning to think that it is Pokemon Mania 2.0
It's not. The mobile market is a feeble jungle. If you pay 40 box for a game, you stick with it. You convince friends it's awesome, because you want to play with them. A free game means that as soon the first group of people will declare it uncool, the game is going to die quickly. Look, almost 10 years of App Store brought to the gaming industry a grand total of maybe a couple of franchises that have enjoyed prolonged success, and tons of frenzy-of-the-month that have died quickly. Remember when everyone was playing Flappy Birds? C'mon. That's not gaming. It's bathroom gaming, it's good for five minutes for a week, then the fun dies. I just hope that Nintendo isn't really stupid enough to consider GO a proof that they need to bet on mobile. They never should have crossed that line to begin with.

@LegendOfPokemon People are generally stupid
@TheWPCTraveler so?
@Kroko excuse me, making fun of what? it's not a matter of playing something else, if I see my favourite hobby going downhill I won't stand for it

>Nintendo shares soars with the success of a mobile cashgrab and amputee nostalgiabait microconsole
>not because people want to buy, play and have fun with actual Nintendo hardware and games

Gaming is truly dead

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No cartridge space is not a problem. This thing isn't made for Nintendo nerds. This thing is made to cash on the hip 90s nostalgia and christmas microconsole buyers, and it's going to do exactly that, but some limitation make it absurd from my point of view (absurd for the expert consumer, common folks aren't going to have any problems).
>no eShop
Is as simply as that. No eShop, no possibility of buying other games.. 30 games in the box..it's like a product from another era.
Just imagine:
>New Nintendo Famicon/NES
>as powerful as a SNES
>no game in the box
>internet connection
>8 giga of memory
>eShop
>2,99 for GameBoy games; 4,99 for NES games; 7,99 for GameBoyColor games; 9,99 for SNES games
>49,99

Now this would have flied out of the shelves. They could have even rode the GO mania since pokemon is on VC. A proper console, just cheap and not so powerful, but with all the games that VC has to offer. Man they could even let people develop for it, but no, Nintendo is stuck in 1999 as usual.

These Japanese live action trailer are genius. They should make them for every country, the kids see what pokemon is really about (playing with friends) and we can remember fondly of when we were those kids and we had our gameboys instead of a 3DS. It's a perfect nostalgia operation.
Regarding the new features, I see that Pokemon keeps taking from Yokai Watch, witch is cool I guess, Pokemon needed some competition, GEN VI was a disaster.
I kinda wanna buy a lot of those N3DSXL and go smash them in the face of all the alleged "super pokemon fan" that have popped up this week screaming go play a real game you butt

4 months before the release and they've already shown so many Pokemon so either (a) this is just ORAS syndrome and they're going to spoil everything before the release, which would be a bummer or (b) in accord with the odd generations rule there's a huge dex, addressing my main problem with X (the ridiculously small Kalos dex, now if they only would fix the terrible pace, the cringeworthy writing and add some postgame also...).
Plus I love just how much character and personality all the mons of this generation have so far. They've really understood Yokai Watch's lesson.

@OorWullie Because PlayStation is the main culprit in the establishment of the toxic western gaming culture. Meanwhile I've got nothing against Microsoft, I actually like Satya Nadella a lot and I think that among the Big3 of tech (Google, Apple, Microsoft) he is the only one with a clear plan of where he wants Microsoft to be in 10 years, and I quite like that plan.

@Ikramali Only PS2 had a long life span and only because the price dropped harshly when the 3 was released (and it was absurdly expensive). People kept buying tons of PS2 games, and thanks to the huge user base they kept making them.
PS3 is already dead.
I kinda like the PS4 exclusives more, compared to XBOne's ones, also because I'm a Japanese student and I could use the PS4 as an excellent weebo machine, but man I feel like betraying my country in getting a PS4.
I'm kinda more drown to the XBOne excellent smart tv capabilities, though.
Well my problem is that I don't have anything to play, I'd like playing something in Japanese to practice and I want a Smart TV. The PS4 should suffice at least 2 of these point, but I could just very well pick up #FE to pass time on my Wii U, a Vita to use as a weebo machine and an Apple TV. It should be the same money.

No Nintendo related deals here in Italy too, but I am on the verge of buying a PS4/Xbone. It would be the first non-Nintendo console of my life. Should I jump the shark?

As a longtime Pokémon fan that has actually got into gaming thanks to Pokémon, GO is absolutely the worst Nibelsnarfing thing that could ever happen to the franchise.

@FlameRunnerFast As if Nintendo doesn't already have a piracy problem. The pokemon roms are probably the most shared and downloaded of all time. Pokemon-piracy was so diffuse at some point, that it definitely eat into the sales of the game (and still, there is no pokemon game that has sold less than 5 million copies, which is absolutely outstanding). Plus piracy is naturally slowing down. People are getting used to pay for their entertainment more.

I do. I always ever owned only Nintendo machines, and I've been screaming against the toxic western gaming culture (more real! more graphic! more power! more blood! more guns! more boring sport simulators!) for years, but this does not mean that Nintendo is without faults. They're great at making games, but the console environment it's too changed from the one they were king in. #
Also because Nintendo is still talking about consoles, when PS4/XBone are just PCs mixed with a smart tv boxes. Nintendo is still talking about consoles, but they don't exists anymore.
As of right now, the only one with a slight idea of what they're doing in the gaming machines industry is Microsoft. They have a clear project and an idea. They know where they're headed. I wouldn't be surprised if they will soon begin to sell Windows 10 with the X Box interface to every OEM to make gaming machine with. That is a smart idea.
Even Sony keeps celebrating fake milestones, since they keep selling PS4 but none is buying the games, which is actually way worse of what happened with the Wii U.
The Wii U has no library and no user base, but everyone that owns one still buys more games than a normal PS4 owner. They can sell how many they want, if the only thing people are buying for it is the seasonal FIFA it's still not good.

@Dave24 That's not true. The point is how you market things. People are always going to be interested in good entertainment. VC had absolutely no recognition whatsoever. It never was a 3DS/WiiU selling point. But when they released the first generation of pokemon on it and with a lot of fanfare, the response was positive, despite the ridiculously high price. My idea of a Nintendo app should be marketed as a Nintendo celebration. The point is the whole. It's here, have all Nintendo. All of Nintendo. Even if I added the option to buy single games because they can't jump the shark too quickly, the point isn't creating a new Steam. The point is creating a gaming Netflix. Selling Nintendo culture and games. Selling the whole. It's a completely different approach what I'm talking about. I'm talking about a service with all Nintendo games in it, past and future. It has nothing to do with VC because the main point isn't Nintendo old game and it isn't Nintendo new games, the point is cashing a monthly fee for ALL Nintendo games. Let's pretend that NX is a codename for my idea. Of the 40 million owners of PS4, how many would pay 10 dollars every month to play Mario, Zelda and Pokemon? And what's better, every Mario, Zelda and Pokemon? It's not an approach that represents the future of gaming, it's something that only Nintendo can do because only Nintendo has a library wide and known enough to pull this off.

@GamePerson19 No. Sega just began making games for other hardwares. I'm saying that Nintendo should take another route, an unexplored route. If there's a catalogue of games and IPs as venerable, replayable and big enough to make the Netflix of gaming that catalogue is Nintendo's hands. Man at this point it's clear that the alleged Nintendo's connections with the Japanese government and Yakuza are the only things that is keeping Nintendo in the hand of the Japanese, because Apple and Microsoft and Google, hell even Amazon and Disney's deep pockets would buy Nintendo set of IPs in a heartbeat. How valuable are they? Tons of games, recognizable characters and almost no efforts in licensing them. The IPs are not only valuable, they are also untainted (beside that dreadful and largely forgotten Mario movie). You could buy them and begin to make movies, tv shows, books, comics.. you could easily build something as big as Marvel in a heartbeat. I'm sorry, I love Nintendo, but it is clear that they've no idea of where gaming and gaming culture are headed. It's not just their refusal to seriously commit to online gaming, their brutal war against streamers, the ridiculous pace of the US/UE adaptation. Nintendo is a conservative Japanese company that still thinks that is 1995 and treats the rest of the world as an afterthought. In the ends of literally anyone else the company could make ten times the money they made during the DS/Wii era.

_{watch your mouth~ Undead}

DIFFERENT IDEA (please no bully):
>Nintendo ditches hardware
>Leaves the App Store/Google Play
>Builds an emulator/app simply call Nintendo
>Every 1st/2nd party Nintendo title is here, from the first Mario to Breath of Wild
>To Play you need the Nintendo Controller, a bluetooth controller that works with every bluetooth machine, even phones
>There's also Nintendo Motion Controller, to play Wii games and keep making new
>To play NDS/3DS/WiiU games you can use the tv and the phone as the second screen, also with the App
>You can buy single games
>You can stream them all for a number of dollar every month
>The games are organized by power needed and type of controller
>The streaming price varies by power of the machine (i.e. you have an Apple TV, a Level 7 machine, you pay 7 dollars and can stream games from level 7 and below)
>There are also free games with microtransactions which can shine into the app instead of getting lost in the sea of App Store/Google Play and thus lure people into the Nintendo app (and increase the chance they'll buy full flagged games or subscribe)
>The app is available for PS3/4, Windows (legacy+10, which means XBOX), iOS, MacOS, tvOS, Android and a number of the most popular oss for smart tv (firefox, tizen, webOS).

Then just watch the money pour in.

I'm not trying to be mean (love my Wii U a lot) but when has the Wii U schedule ever been busy?
Alas I'm waiting for:
>Dragon Quest VII: because I've never played a Dragon Quest game before 10 months ago and then proceeded to play 1-8 (except 7) on my iPhone, buyed the 9 for DS and now I'm waiting for 7 and 10. I know, went from ignorant to loving them
>Rhythm Paradise Megamix because we losers europeans always get nice things for last
>Pokemon Sun and Moon, because even if GEN VI sucked and was absolutely the worst, I can't give up on my favourite gaming series yet, plus all the things showed so far, except the legendaries, are kinda neat
>Monster Hunter Generation, because I've never played a Monster Hunter game before and it seems a nice starting point, if I get the money
>Phoenix Wright 6, obviously
>Shantae 4, obviously
>Shin Megami Tensei 4: Apocalypse if they actually bother to announce it for Europe

And at last, a side note. The game I'm currently looking for the most is absolutely Yokai Watch 2 (another one without an european release date), I've recently finally picked up the first game, and with many faults (terrible in-game map, terrible menu, the "let's recolor a mon and call it a new one, the japanese exclusive yokais, that one fantastic Pandanoko that is a nightmare to obtain for someone like me that knows absolutely none irl that plays YW..) it's so charming and down to earth and funny that I've been absolutely drawn to it. I've already clocked almost 100 hours and I'm having hella fun, something that I can't say about Pokémon X nor Pokémon Alpha Sapphire. I'm sorry, the games are not actually as similar as Nintendo says they are, but since the comparison it's there, I'm throwing my two cents. Between Yokai Watch and Pokemon X, that came out the same year in Japan, for me the clear winner is Yokai Watch and I'm way more looking forward for YW2 than Sun and Moon, right now.

Granted that they're really cool titles, where did they get Bony Spirits and Fleshy Souls from 元祖 and 本家?