@MrCerulean7 Because Sakurai said so? You know it's possible for him to lie.
"(Nintendo promoted upcoming titles that contained the Joker IP such as the port of Tokyo Mirage)"
There is no "Joker IP", and if you are talking about Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE, is Nintendo trying to market that game now? No. Now it's Pokemon & Animal Crossing.
"Publishing rights to the definitive edition and ports as well as other things"
From Dragon Quest 11's producer, the Hero is broken in Smash Bros. because "Sakurai likes Hero so much".
"due to a deal with Minecraft"
...
"Support from future SNK titles such as Samurai Shodown and the addition of the SNK library"
Because yeah, Nintendo wants to sell you $7 arcade ports of all the titles they have available on the eShop. Why?
"Nintendo's newest IP that sold 2 million that for some reason they keep sending out codes for the game as prizes in tournaments"
I can buy it second hand today for 8 USD. If they're giving it away, then clearly how much money can you actually make with the game today?
“It’s emblematic of the approach that Mr. Sakurai and the team are taking with the DLC. He wants characters that are unique, different, to bring them into the Smash Bros. environment. So it’s going to be tremendously exciting.”
EA: We want to bring more games to the Switch. Me: Cool, even the next Madden? EA: Oh but not that. Me: The Mirror's Edge games? EA: What the--? Are you crazy? Me: Can I just have SSX Tricky? Just port it. That or one of the Simpsons games. EA: I hate Nintendo.
What is Arms? What is Nintendo? What is a video game console? How is Arms played? Who is <character>? What are <character>'s moves? What is the stage? DLC Mii outfits. "Nintendo" chose the DLC.
@AnnoyingFrenzy "Except it is isn't it, cause they did it."
They did it, which makes as much sense as Sakurai putting a fork in his toaster. You can, but does that mean you should? LOL The point of guest characters is so that you can sell the game to more people outside your current fanbase. That is how companies like Capcom, Namco, Tecmo Koei, SNK, NetherRealm and others make money with their fighting games. The DLC isn't just for the Smash die-hards.
"Look, I dont care about your hatred for Banjo or Microsoft, but crying about it 1 year later is a bit asinine dont you think?"
Then there's no need to have this article either. For a DLC character to get an "anniversary" is so hokey.
@AnnoyingFrenzy Because they're pouring money down a bottomless pit. The only company that benefits is Microsoft. The only fans who wanted this character were only going to spend $6 on it. That's not how guest characters work.
@quinnyboy58 "you sir are a Numpty! Banjo Kazooie is amazing and was revered by most people who played it for a reason. Hell there has even been several user created levels and a level editor created by it’s community."
Around the time Banjo-Kazooie was on the N64, you had Tomb Raider which was a far bigger success, and it had a level editor created by the developers for PC players.
"If Microsoft had any sense they would use their Rare IP it still holds a lot of value. Nuts and Bolts was just never the right idea, it would be like Zelda’s next mainline game being a Lego building game or something."
That's exactly why they wanted Banjo-Kazooie in Smash Bros. so that if they made another game again they'll know you'll buy a Series X. Bravo Nintendo.
I like how people praise this as a great achievement for Banjo-Kazooie. This character only panders to a vocal minority of fans that already owned the Smash Bros. product.
He's treated in the Nintendo bubble like he's Sonic the Hedgehog, yet records have indicated that he hasn't even sold no less than 7 million copies globally since 1998. These same fans even admit they refused to buy Nuts & Bolts.
Dragon Quest sold over 80 million copies as a franchise, so that's business as usual.
@graysoncharles It's been a means to get casual gamers and mobile owners to consider purchasing dedicated Nintendo consoles. Also, all their games are free to download. Now that the Switch has exceeded expectations, their support for mobile is dwindling. It wouldn't surprise me if Super Kirby Clash was also going to be a mobile game before it was moved to the Switch.
@graysoncharles Everyone owns a computer already. The mobile games they offer are not even that deep. Pocket Camp and Mario Kart Tour are very shallow games compared to the games they are modeled after on Nintendo's own hardware.
Hotel Mario & those Zelda games you must be talking about were the Phillips CD-i, which is a game console.
@graysoncharles Yeah, the only way Microsoft is going to do that is if they see it an an opportunity to benefit at Nintendo's expense. Gamers can't afford more than one system? Yeah, that's true, but is it worth it to Nintendo? Do they need Banjo-Kazooie? ...
@rockodoodle That's not Nintendo's philosophy. They made it clear that the only games they want people to play are on platforms they can control 100%. They remove fan-made computer games for the same reason; it keeps fans from buying and playing on their own hardware.
@BabyYoshi12 Minecraft was a multiplatform game before Microsoft bought the company, so they have continued multiplatform support or else only limiting the support to XBOX platforms would defeat the purpose of why they bought Mojang in the first place.
@graysoncharles None of the XBOX fans clamor for Zelda or Mario on XBOX. If they want to play those games, they simply get the console that have those games. If you want Banjo Kazooie, why not get an XBOX? That's the hypocrisy.
@graysoncharles They can sell their games on the eShop if they want like Cuphead. Then they'll have to compete with every other developer by selling games instead of services.
"And I don’t see the problem with that. And if Nintendo haven’t done the same for some of their franchises to gain more interest in the Switch and their own games, they are missing out."
Let's put Breath of the Wild and Smash Bros. Ultimate on X Box One & see how Nintendo fans feel.
@graysoncharles "Nintendo can negotiate with MS to recieve a kickback if they buy a game on game pass and xcloud to be used on the Switch."
You don't buy games on Game Pass. You buy the subscription and the game is free for a limited time. Developers only make money by having their games on Game Pass when Microsoft pays them a fixed amount of money at the start.
""Also, MS philosophy is changing. They are more focused now on selling softwares like azure and office, which are also compatible with Mac and android instead of forcing us to buy windows machines. They know that selling software on various machines and OSes is better in the long run"
They've been doing that for a long time. Their older games are also on Steam and Mac. Those old Halo games on Steam are simply designed to get gamers to crave Halo Infinite.
@mesome713 Joker doesn't belong to a console competitor. He also had a game that got wide exposure & praise from the game community recently. I can argue how that helps Nintendo sell Smash Bros. and Switch to new customers. Banjo doesn't do that.
I was never for Banjo Kazooie in Smash Bros. either. A terrible decision that only helps Microsoft. They're going to make BK3 for XBSX now & that will cause those crazed Banjo fans that spent $6 for DLC to spend €400+ towards their company now.
Any semblance of an XBOX service where you play XBOX games on Switch would be devastating for Switch developers. If more gamers opt to use Game Pass over buying games at the eShop, that would cause Nintendo & its third parties to lose a ton of money, & then you have Wii U all over again. This would only be good for Microsoft considering that is who consumers would be constantly giving money to; not even for games, but services.
For that matter, Microsoft isn't going to put Banjo Kazooie or Rare Replay on Switch. They'd rather have you buy their system in order to play such games. That wouldn't make sense for them either.
"Beyond the admittedly impressive cinematic connection (which, lest we forget, may well be lost on younger Mortal Kombat fans), we get the impression that some players might find him a little, well, dull."
Like no duh. It's Robocop, a character for Robocop fans. Why would you assume that DLC is made just for competitive players?
@Varkster "There have been many reported times when Sakurai didn't have a healthy sleeping schedule and was working crazy overtime hours to pass his deadlines."
From his own words.
"Instead of working on a new IP or something HE wants, Sakurai has been put into the Smash Bros hole for many years now."
He can simply choose not to. Super Smash Bros. Brawl started without him.
"but it's clear the man wants to start something from scratch."
Nothing's stopping him. He just wants to be sure that Fire Emblem is crammed down our throats every Smash iteration.
"It is a little disheartening that you're claiming directors have worked on "much bigger" games than this without providing any proof or experience. Seems like you just wanted to throw a jab at Sakurai honestly."
The only reason why people give him sympathy is because he constantly clamors for it. You herald how hard he works but, oh, he also says he played a total of 250 or so Playstation games in the past year? Enough.
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Re: Smash Bros. ARMS Presentation To Take Place From The Comfort Of Sakurai's Home
@MrCerulean7 Because Sakurai said so? You know it's possible for him to lie.
"(Nintendo promoted upcoming titles that contained the Joker IP such as the port of Tokyo Mirage)"
There is no "Joker IP", and if you are talking about Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE, is Nintendo trying to market that game now? No. Now it's Pokemon & Animal Crossing.
"Publishing rights to the definitive edition and ports as well as other things"
From Dragon Quest 11's producer, the Hero is broken in Smash Bros. because "Sakurai likes Hero so much".
"due to a deal with Minecraft"
...
"Support from future SNK titles such as Samurai Shodown and the addition of the SNK library"
Because yeah, Nintendo wants to sell you $7 arcade ports of all the titles they have available on the eShop. Why?
"Nintendo's newest IP that sold 2 million that for some reason they keep sending out codes for the game as prizes in tournaments"
I can buy it second hand today for 8 USD. If they're giving it away, then clearly how much money can you actually make with the game today?
Re: Smash Bros. ARMS Presentation To Take Place From The Comfort Of Sakurai's Home
@LightningDragon So in other words, it's Sakurai's decisions.
Re: Smash Bros. ARMS Presentation To Take Place From The Comfort Of Sakurai's Home
@LightningDragon You must have missed this part.
“It’s emblematic of the approach that Mr. Sakurai and the team are taking with the DLC. He wants characters that are unique, different, to bring them into the Smash Bros. environment. So it’s going to be tremendously exciting.”
Re: Smash Bros. ARMS Presentation To Take Place From The Comfort Of Sakurai's Home
@LightningDragon He said it right during the Game Awards 2018.
Re: Smash Bros. ARMS Presentation To Take Place From The Comfort Of Sakurai's Home
@LightningDragon Reggie said that Sakurai chose the DLC characters.
Re: Smash Bros. ARMS Presentation To Take Place From The Comfort Of Sakurai's Home
Can we stop kissing up to Sakurai for once? The guy is nothing special, just a self-loving director.
Re: EA Wants To Bring More Games To More Platforms - Including Nintendo Switch
EA: We want to bring more games to the Switch.
Me: Cool, even the next Madden?
EA: Oh but not that.
Me: The Mirror's Edge games?
EA: What the--? Are you crazy?
Me: Can I just have SSX Tricky? Just port it. That or one of the Simpsons games.
EA: I hate Nintendo.
Re: Square Enix Officially Confirms Kingdom Hearts: Melody Of Memory For The West
Look at that great font from 2003.
Re: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate's ARMS Fighter Will Be Revealed In Livestream Next Week
The stream in a nutshell:
What is Arms?
What is Nintendo?
What is a video game console?
How is Arms played?
Who is <character>?
What are <character>'s moves?
What is the stage?
DLC Mii outfits.
"Nintendo" chose the DLC.
Re: EA Is Bringing Seven Games To Nintendo Switch Over The Next 12 Months
SSX Tricky is practically the only game from EA I want. It was like the Overwatch of snowboarding games.
Re: Community: Found A Real Gem On Switch eShop? We Want To Hear From You
Sent one for Strange Telephone.
Re: Kingdom Hearts: Melody Of Memory Announced For Switch, Launches This Year
Cue HMK posting an hour long video.
Re: Robbie Lakeman Is Apparently The New Donkey Kong World Record Holder
The King of Kong 2020.
Re: It's Been One Year Since Banjo-Kazooie Was Revealed For Smash Bros. Ultimate
@TA66 Click "reply" under my comment, so that next time people will know that you are replying directly to me.
Re: It's Been One Year Since Banjo-Kazooie Was Revealed For Smash Bros. Ultimate
@AnnoyingFrenzy "Except it is isn't it, cause they did it."
They did it, which makes as much sense as Sakurai putting a fork in his toaster. You can, but does that mean you should? LOL The point of guest characters is so that you can sell the game to more people outside your current fanbase. That is how companies like Capcom, Namco, Tecmo Koei, SNK, NetherRealm and others make money with their fighting games. The DLC isn't just for the Smash die-hards.
"Look, I dont care about your hatred for Banjo or Microsoft, but crying about it 1 year later is a bit asinine dont you think?"
Then there's no need to have this article either. For a DLC character to get an "anniversary" is so hokey.
Re: It's Been One Year Since Banjo-Kazooie Was Revealed For Smash Bros. Ultimate
@AnnoyingFrenzy Because they're pouring money down a bottomless pit. The only company that benefits is Microsoft. The only fans who wanted this character were only going to spend $6 on it. That's not how guest characters work.
Re: It's Been One Year Since Banjo-Kazooie Was Revealed For Smash Bros. Ultimate
@quinnyboy58 "you sir are a Numpty! Banjo Kazooie is amazing and was revered by most people who played it for a reason. Hell there has even been several user created levels and a level editor created by it’s community."
Around the time Banjo-Kazooie was on the N64, you had Tomb Raider which was a far bigger success, and it had a level editor created by the developers for PC players.
"If Microsoft had any sense they would use their Rare IP it still holds a lot of value. Nuts and Bolts was just never the right idea, it would be like Zelda’s next mainline game being a Lego building game or something."
That's exactly why they wanted Banjo-Kazooie in Smash Bros. so that if they made another game again they'll know you'll buy a Series X. Bravo Nintendo.
Re: It's Been One Year Since Banjo-Kazooie Was Revealed For Smash Bros. Ultimate
@AnnoyingFrenzy Oh great! Yeah! Let's help Microsoft some more!
Re: It's Been One Year Since Banjo-Kazooie Was Revealed For Smash Bros. Ultimate
I like how people praise this as a great achievement for Banjo-Kazooie. This character only panders to a vocal minority of fans that already owned the Smash Bros. product.
He's treated in the Nintendo bubble like he's Sonic the Hedgehog, yet records have indicated that he hasn't even sold no less than 7 million copies globally since 1998. These same fans even admit they refused to buy Nuts & Bolts.
Dragon Quest sold over 80 million copies as a franchise, so that's business as usual.
Re: Talking Point: Six Burning Questions We'd Love Nintendo To Answer This Summer
"How is No More Heroes 3 / Bayonetta 3 / Bravely Default 2 coming along?"
How come Nintendo has the answer to this?
Re: First-Party Xbox Dev inXile Releases The Bard's Tale ARPG On Switch Next Week
Didn't inXile also work on Wasteland 2, which is also on Switch?
Re: Talking Point: The Time Is Right For Microsoft And Nintendo To Get Comfier With One Another
@graysoncharles Yeah, because somebody can purchase multiple games but they only ever need one console.
Re: Talking Point: The Time Is Right For Microsoft And Nintendo To Get Comfier With One Another
@graysoncharles But if I don't need a Switch then why should I buy one?
Re: Talking Point: The Time Is Right For Microsoft And Nintendo To Get Comfier With One Another
@graysoncharles So what PC games could they make that the Switch would not be able to offer?
Re: Talking Point: The Time Is Right For Microsoft And Nintendo To Get Comfier With One Another
@graysoncharles It's been a means to get casual gamers and mobile owners to consider purchasing dedicated Nintendo consoles. Also, all their games are free to download. Now that the Switch has exceeded expectations, their support for mobile is dwindling. It wouldn't surprise me if Super Kirby Clash was also going to be a mobile game before it was moved to the Switch.
Re: Talking Point: The Time Is Right For Microsoft And Nintendo To Get Comfier With One Another
@NinjaWaddleDee No. That's not how Game Pass works. You don't pay for games on Game Pass at all. You pay Microsoft the money & those games come free.
Re: Talking Point: The Time Is Right For Microsoft And Nintendo To Get Comfier With One Another
@graysoncharles Everyone owns a computer already. The mobile games they offer are not even that deep. Pocket Camp and Mario Kart Tour are very shallow games compared to the games they are modeled after on Nintendo's own hardware.
Hotel Mario & those Zelda games you must be talking about were the Phillips CD-i, which is a game console.
Re: Talking Point: The Time Is Right For Microsoft And Nintendo To Get Comfier With One Another
@Doktor-Mandrake Why can't you play it on the computer?
Re: Talking Point: The Time Is Right For Microsoft And Nintendo To Get Comfier With One Another
@graysoncharles Yeah, the only way Microsoft is going to do that is if they see it an an opportunity to benefit at Nintendo's expense. Gamers can't afford more than one system? Yeah, that's true, but is it worth it to Nintendo? Do they need Banjo-Kazooie? ...
Re: Talking Point: The Time Is Right For Microsoft And Nintendo To Get Comfier With One Another
@rockodoodle That's not Nintendo's philosophy. They made it clear that the only games they want people to play are on platforms they can control 100%. They remove fan-made computer games for the same reason; it keeps fans from buying and playing on their own hardware.
Re: Talking Point: The Time Is Right For Microsoft And Nintendo To Get Comfier With One Another
@BabyYoshi12 Minecraft was a multiplatform game before Microsoft bought the company, so they have continued multiplatform support or else only limiting the support to XBOX platforms would defeat the purpose of why they bought Mojang in the first place.
Re: Talking Point: The Time Is Right For Microsoft And Nintendo To Get Comfier With One Another
@graysoncharles None of the XBOX fans clamor for Zelda or Mario on XBOX. If they want to play those games, they simply get the console that have those games. If you want Banjo Kazooie, why not get an XBOX? That's the hypocrisy.
Re: Talking Point: The Time Is Right For Microsoft And Nintendo To Get Comfier With One Another
@OscarHTX Because Nintendo fanboys never want to give; always receive.
Re: Talking Point: The Time Is Right For Microsoft And Nintendo To Get Comfier With One Another
@graysoncharles They can sell their games on the eShop if they want like Cuphead. Then they'll have to compete with every other developer by selling games instead of services.
"And I don’t see the problem with that. And if Nintendo haven’t done the same for some of their franchises to gain more interest in the Switch and their own games, they are missing out."
Let's put Breath of the Wild and Smash Bros. Ultimate on X Box One & see how Nintendo fans feel.
Re: Talking Point: The Time Is Right For Microsoft And Nintendo To Get Comfier With One Another
@BigBluePanda Ori & the Will of The Wisps will come to Switch when Ori 3 is about to release for Series X.
Re: Talking Point: The Time Is Right For Microsoft And Nintendo To Get Comfier With One Another
@graysoncharles "Nintendo can negotiate with MS to recieve a kickback if they buy a game on game pass and xcloud to be used on the Switch."
You don't buy games on Game Pass. You buy the subscription and the game is free for a limited time. Developers only make money by having their games on Game Pass when Microsoft pays them a fixed amount of money at the start.
""Also, MS philosophy is changing. They are more focused now on selling softwares like azure and office, which are also compatible with Mac and android instead of forcing us to buy windows machines. They know that selling software on various machines and OSes is better in the long run"
They've been doing that for a long time. Their older games are also on Steam and Mac. Those old Halo games on Steam are simply designed to get gamers to crave Halo Infinite.
Re: Talking Point: The Time Is Right For Microsoft And Nintendo To Get Comfier With One Another
@mesome713 Joker doesn't belong to a console competitor. He also had a game that got wide exposure & praise from the game community recently. I can argue how that helps Nintendo sell Smash Bros. and Switch to new customers. Banjo doesn't do that.
Re: Talking Point: The Time Is Right For Microsoft And Nintendo To Get Comfier With One Another
@BabyYoshi12 Minecraft belongs to Mojang.
Re: Talking Point: The Time Is Right For Microsoft And Nintendo To Get Comfier With One Another
I was never for Banjo Kazooie in Smash Bros. either. A terrible decision that only helps Microsoft. They're going to make BK3 for XBSX now & that will cause those crazed Banjo fans that spent $6 for DLC to spend €400+ towards their company now.
Re: Talking Point: The Time Is Right For Microsoft And Nintendo To Get Comfier With One Another
I oppose ALL of this.
Any semblance of an XBOX service where you play XBOX games on Switch would be devastating for Switch developers. If more gamers opt to use Game Pass over buying games at the eShop, that would cause Nintendo & its third parties to lose a ton of money, & then you have Wii U all over again. This would only be good for Microsoft considering that is who consumers would be constantly giving money to; not even for games, but services.
For that matter, Microsoft isn't going to put Banjo Kazooie or Rare Replay on Switch. They'd rather have you buy their system in order to play such games. That wouldn't make sense for them either.
Re: Animal Crossing: New Horizons Player Recreates Entire Smash Bros. Ultimate Roster
"Entire"
Skips Isabelle.
Re: Review: Mortal Kombat 11: Aftermath - An Expensive Way To Get The Full Mortal Kombat 11 Experience
@Damo That doesn't change anything really.
Re: Amazon France Removes Listings For Mysterious Third-Party Switch Games
Persona 5 & Metroid Prime Trilogy of course.
Re: Review: Mortal Kombat 11: Aftermath - An Expensive Way To Get The Full Mortal Kombat 11 Experience
"Beyond the admittedly impressive cinematic connection (which, lest we forget, may well be lost on younger Mortal Kombat fans), we get the impression that some players might find him a little, well, dull."
Like no duh. It's Robocop, a character for Robocop fans. Why would you assume that DLC is made just for competitive players?
Re: Clubhouse Games: 51 Worldwide Classics Will Actually Feature A 52nd Game
You could call it Action 52.
Re: Neo Geo Pocket Color Title SNK Gals' Fighters Is Available Now On Nintendo Switch
So Sakurai couldn't put Mai in his E10 title but she's appearing here alright.
Re: EB Canada Reminds Us To Set Aside 24 GB For The XCOM 2: Collection On Switch
But it's worth it.
Re: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate's Sixth DLC Fighter Is From ARMS
So much for Nintendo trying to sell us Fire Emblem, right Sakur-lie?
Re: Masahiro Sakurai Says "It's A Total Blank Slate" After He Finishes Smash Bros. Ultimate's DLC
@Varkster Because when I read about nothing but how Sakurai is god's gift to video games, it's certainly not "salty biased drivel" by any means.
Re: Masahiro Sakurai Says "It's A Total Blank Slate" After He Finishes Smash Bros. Ultimate's DLC
@Varkster "There have been many reported times when Sakurai didn't have a healthy sleeping schedule and was working crazy overtime hours to pass his deadlines."
From his own words.
"Instead of working on a new IP or something HE wants, Sakurai has been put into the Smash Bros hole for many years now."
He can simply choose not to. Super Smash Bros. Brawl started without him.
"but it's clear the man wants to start something from scratch."
Nothing's stopping him. He just wants to be sure that Fire Emblem is crammed down our throats every Smash iteration.
"It is a little disheartening that you're claiming directors have worked on "much bigger" games than this without providing any proof or experience. Seems like you just wanted to throw a jab at Sakurai honestly."
The only reason why people give him sympathy is because he constantly clamors for it. You herald how hard he works but, oh, he also says he played a total of 250 or so Playstation games in the past year? Enough.