awwe when going through the comments i feel like a lot of the people didn't really enjoy this game too much which is a shame because it does have its own really fun moments. It certainly might not be the best Zelda made, but it does have some interesting dungeons and if the motion controls would be reworked i think the gameplay wouldnt be much of an issue as well. The Artstyle and Story are quite solid as well in my opinion(especially your interaction with Zelda) and don't forget the awesome music. Of course there are some Issues like the rather boring flying around or revisiting the same or very similar areas sometime as well as Fi maybe annoying you about low batteries...( Oh and lets not forget a certain boss) But overall its pretty solid, especially if you are going for the more classic zelda things you might have missed in botw like me(e.g. music and dungeon designs).
@buggysdad that really does sound annoying. At the very least they are fixing it for free i guess, but its hit or miss if your problem gets solved or not. for me it did, but looking through the comments it seems that you are either lucky or unlucky depending on where you are sending it in
I am actually a bit confused now, so xenoblade is not open world but hyper light drifter is?So open world is basically when you can access the whole world from the beginning or after the tutorial, have i got that right?
@Shepdawg1 which really makes sense to me. Not caring about the console as long as this becomes reality sometime. I hear a lot of good things about suikoden and would gladly spend a bit of money on the final product
The E3 is always great fun, all those many games coming out, packed into one big event is a lot more convenient than picking and waiting for every little piece of information nintendo is feeding us
I am looking forward to this game, as mentioned before i would also support by buying the game and not by funding the kickstarter though. It will be a great chance to get into the suikoden series myself
@TheWingedAvenger Zelda is fun, absolutely and without doubt. The Combat works well and is easy to learn, my point was that Zelda is more button mashing than Xenoblade and not a button mashing game per se, the combat is just not very deep, fun yes but not too deep is all i am saying. Ultimately, it comes down to personal opinion and i probably agree with the fun gameplay part here. However, if you want a more complicated but rewarding fighting system, i still consider xenoblade to be above Zelda which does not feature a lot of strategy usually.
@rockodoodle same, i actually love it for a lot of multiplayer gaming. sad that most games did not fully realize the potential i think. However, these were still great games so no wonder most of them get ported now
@KishinLink old comment but have you tried the bayonetta games? They are quite similar to Astral Chain after all.
Since you don't have too much time, you might wanna try:Crypt of the Necrodancer(since you played Cadence), Katana Zero, Fury, Hyper light drifter, Undertale, Ori and the blind forest, Hollow knight for a slightly longer experience. I feel like these short indie title are really fun and don't take too long, plus they are really cheap. You might also wanna try Animal crossing, i havent played it but you can put in loads of time but don't have to be too invested in it, meaning you can play it pretty casually i guess. Since you played botw, maybe you like Xenoblade 2 or 1 as well, although i would recommend 1, since it is a lot easier to get into and like than 2 in my opinion. Its a very long game though and the combat takes time to get used to, meaning it is not an action adventure like zelda. Hope those still help
@TheWingedAvenger okey, this is an old comment and i cannot speak for most of these games but i would consider botw to be more button mashing than the actual Xenoblade. Xenoblade is just harder to get into, but the combat in botw is spamming the b button in flurry rush or spamming the b button after you hit the enemy with your sword, of course it is also not a pure button mashing game but xenoblade requires you to select the right move in its right order and combine it with many other abilities. If you get into the combat though, it does feel rewarding if you know what you are doing and well... not button mash every attack without knowing what it does. You are not alone, cause it adds to the strategy, it makes the combat more complicated yes but also more deep. I can see why xenoblade 2 is poorly regarded combatwise because you still get some tutorials after 40 hours in the game, but it really is no button mashing
@batata While i absolutely love Xenoblade and am still playing through it, it is still a remaster for sure, same as Crysis and Catherine:Full Body, they are great for me since i have not played them but the only actual new games are paper mario and animal crossing. this year is not over yet though, Nintendo could still have something big for Christmas and some various smaller things beforehand
@Dodger It is pretty fun, especially since you can view the topic under many different viewpoints(e.g. sales, personal opinion, disappointments and so on)
@Ultrasmiles Although i also don't think that 2020 is not that bad we gotta be a bit more realistic... Xenoblade is a remaster as good as it is, shin megami tensei is set for 2021 and Metroid 4 is in development since 2019 after it got initially scraped, zelda botw 2 would also be quite the shadow drop if it still comes this year(very unlikely for zelda). Not saying that those games cannot happen, it just does not seem too likely
@LilMuku I am not sure if ACNH not being big before is a good argument, it is big now so it is a major selling title this year right? Also, one may argue that Tokyo mirage sessions may not be a big franchise compared to paper mario as well.
On the flipside, if we only go by games that have released that year without looking at its quality, yeah we also got a new paper mario, a new fire emblem, a new metroid, a new mario party and a new Star fox in 2016 so it is probably really gonna be much better than 2020. It might depend more on personal opinion than i initially thought
Lastly, i guess the year is only halfway over, so does it really make sense to compare these two years, especially with all that silence right now?
@rushiosan since you mentioned all the games i would recommend this year seems to be very grim for you... but they might still release something, probably hollow knight: silksong and bravely default 2 if you are interested. there must be at least one other first party game right?
@BenAV did you forget donkey kong country returns or is that in decent releases? other than that i probably have to agree: 2010 was not really too exciting
I would only pay that much for the Nintendo flagship games like Zelda botw or a really long game like xenoblade where i know i actually use the time... even then i might wait for a price drop unless i really want it now
These numbers are really good for switch games, i didn't expect them to be this good. Especially Mario kart 8 deluxe is crazy, considering this game released 6 years ago for the first time(base game i mean)
@OorWullie unless you lived in japan that time, there was no tokyo mirage session for you though, as far as i know it released 2016. I agree though that overall 2016 was much worse
@LilMuku I actually don't think those were that bad. 2010 we got Mario galaxy 2, Pokemon black and white, donkey kong country returns, metroid other M if you like and xenoblade. 2011 was maybe a bit thinner with mario kart 7, super mario 3d land, Zelda skyward sword... personally there was the last story too which i love
@TheFrenchiestFry looking back at the lineup i probably wholeheartedly agree with you. The only game which was interesting for me that time was Pokemon Sun. Color Splash was mediocre at best, Star fox zero was a disappointment, Metroid prime Federation Forces was a joke, don't even remember Mario party Star rush anymore... I was probably too hyped about the breath of the wild trailer that time. This makes me not want to complain about this year anymore, especially when it is not even done yet.
The Shin megami tensei reveal was very nice. It is still next year though so it was definitely underwhelming. I expected axiom verge 2, hollow knight:silksong or bravely default 2. At least some interesting third party game before christmas? I get that there are still more to come but its still a shame big sigh
I mostly don't know many of the lesser known indie titles and just check out the sales, then if something strikes my interest i check for it online and if i like it i buy it. Its very rarely that i actually wait for a game to go on sale.
That is a shame, the style of game i actually like. Being a mod who controls the chat messages and seeing how the story plays out. Maybe let us play the game first and then decide how bad or good it is at least? It is a modern topic after all and there are countless movies and games that can be labelled questionable if this can
@SyFyTy I am not sure how good you can compare those two. First of all: There is more to a game than story, there are also mechanics, which are usually more the focus of many games and even setting, atmosphere, music and direction of it all. Also there have been attempts at putting proffesional novel authors behind a games story like in Fire emblem fates and the story was hated a lot. Big authors like Steven King of course would also need to want to participate and they might need to adapt to suddenly writing an rpg story, along with several constrictions for the age rating. There are still some good stories in games every now and then and there can just be good directors as well like yoko taro(Nier Automata). Finally, the market for good stories is not that high actually, most people wanna have a good time after all
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Re: Nintendo Indie World Showcase Announced For Tuesday 18th August
Ohh, love this! makes me excited for new little gems
Re: Rumour: Is The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword Taking To The Skies On Nintendo Switch?
awwe when going through the comments i feel like a lot of the people didn't really enjoy this game too much which is a shame because it does have its own really fun moments. It certainly might not be the best Zelda made, but it does have some interesting dungeons and if the motion controls would be reworked i think the gameplay wouldnt be much of an issue as well. The Artstyle and Story are quite solid as well in my opinion(especially your interaction with Zelda) and don't forget the awesome music.
Of course there are some Issues like the rather boring flying around or revisiting the same or very similar areas sometime as well as Fi maybe annoying you about low batteries...( Oh and lets not forget a certain boss)
But overall its pretty solid, especially if you are going for the more classic zelda things you might have missed in botw like me(e.g. music and dungeon designs).
Re: Guide: How To Fix A Drifting Nintendo Switch Joy-Con Analog Stick
@buggysdad that really does sound annoying. At the very least they are fixing it for free i guess, but its hit or miss if your problem gets solved or not. for me it did, but looking through the comments it seems that you are either lucky or unlucky depending on where you are sending it in
Re: Guide: How To Fix A Drifting Nintendo Switch Joy-Con Analog Stick
I just send my joy con and nintendo repaired it for free, i thought that is a thing now, since it is a design flaw?
Re: Best Nintendo Switch Open-World Games
I am actually a bit confused now, so xenoblade is not open world but hyper light drifter is?So open world is basically when you can access the whole world from the beginning or after the tutorial, have i got that right?
Re: Bullet-Hell Shmup Crimzon Clover Is Heading To Switch, According To New Rating
@TG16_IS_BAE hahaha, i was never able to survive too long in pacman as well. Now how shall i interpret the difficulty of this one
Re: Bullet-Hell Shmup Crimzon Clover Is Heading To Switch, According To New Rating
Bullet hell games sure look hardcore
Re: Talking Point: Have You Missed E3 This Year?
@Not-Geno your profile pic fits this comment perfectly
Re: Ultra Foodmess Brings Chaotic Multiplayer Shenanigans To Switch Next Month
It is Food wars!
Re: The Team Behind Konami's Classic Suikoden Is Creating A Spiritual Successor
@Shepdawg1 which really makes sense to me. Not caring about the console as long as this becomes reality sometime. I hear a lot of good things about suikoden and would gladly spend a bit of money on the final product
Re: The FunKey S Is A Handheld Console That Fits On Your Keyring
fun idea, but nothing where i would even seriously consider spending money on. It is terribly impractical after all
Re: Talking Point: Have You Missed E3 This Year?
The E3 is always great fun, all those many games coming out, packed into one big event is a lot more convenient than picking and waiting for every little piece of information nintendo is feeding us
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl: Duel #53 - Tetris
How can i vote for anything else than "Russia with fun"
Re: Review: Creaks - A Masterfully Told Dark Fairytale Packed With Clever Puzzles
@Grot I think it really looks pretty, but i rarely play puzzle games like these, what would you say is its best part or who would you recommend it to?
Re: Suikoden Creators Crowdfunding New JRPG Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
I am looking forward to this game, as mentioned before i would also support by buying the game and not by funding the kickstarter though. It will be a great chance to get into the suikoden series myself
Re: Feature: Games To Play After You've Finished Zelda: Breath of the Wild
@TheWingedAvenger Zelda is fun, absolutely and without doubt. The Combat works well and is easy to learn, my point was that Zelda is more button mashing than Xenoblade and not a button mashing game per se, the combat is just not very deep, fun yes but not too deep is all i am saying.
Ultimately, it comes down to personal opinion and i probably agree with the fun gameplay part here. However, if you want a more complicated but rewarding fighting system, i still consider xenoblade to be above Zelda which does not feature a lot of strategy usually.
Re: Poll: No, Really, What Was Nintendo's Worst Year?
@rockodoodle same, i actually love it for a lot of multiplayer gaming. sad that most games did not fully realize the potential i think. However, these were still great games so no wonder most of them get ported now
Re: Feature: Games To Play After You've Finished Zelda: Breath of the Wild
@KishinLink old comment but have you tried the bayonetta games? They are quite similar to Astral Chain after all.
Since you don't have too much time, you might wanna try:Crypt of the Necrodancer(since you played Cadence), Katana Zero, Fury, Hyper light drifter, Undertale, Ori and the blind forest, Hollow knight for a slightly longer experience. I feel like these short indie title are really fun and don't take too long, plus they are really cheap.
You might also wanna try Animal crossing, i havent played it but you can put in loads of time but don't have to be too invested in it, meaning you can play it pretty casually i guess.
Since you played botw, maybe you like Xenoblade 2 or 1 as well, although i would recommend 1, since it is a lot easier to get into and like than 2 in my opinion. Its a very long game though and the combat takes time to get used to, meaning it is not an action adventure like zelda.
Hope those still help
Re: Feature: Games To Play After You've Finished Zelda: Breath of the Wild
@TheWingedAvenger okey, this is an old comment and i cannot speak for most of these games but i would consider botw to be more button mashing than the actual Xenoblade.
Xenoblade is just harder to get into, but the combat in botw is spamming the b button in flurry rush or spamming the b button after you hit the enemy with your sword, of course it is also not a pure button mashing game but xenoblade requires you to select the right move in its right order and combine it with many other abilities.
If you get into the combat though, it does feel rewarding if you know what you are doing and well... not button mash every attack without knowing what it does. You are not alone, cause it adds to the strategy, it makes the combat more complicated yes but also more deep.
I can see why xenoblade 2 is poorly regarded combatwise because you still get some tutorials after 40 hours in the game, but it really is no button mashing
Re: N64 Prototypes And Source Code Surfaces - Super Mario 64, Zelda: Ocarina Of Time And More
Would have loved to have a two player Mario64 with Luigi when i first played the game
Re: Poll: No, Really, What Was Nintendo's Worst Year?
@batata While i absolutely love Xenoblade and am still playing through it, it is still a remaster for sure, same as Crysis and Catherine:Full Body, they are great for me since i have not played them but the only actual new games are paper mario and animal crossing.
this year is not over yet though, Nintendo could still have something big for Christmas and some various smaller things beforehand
Re: Poll: No, Really, What Was Nintendo's Worst Year?
@Dodger It is pretty fun, especially since you can view the topic under many different viewpoints(e.g. sales, personal opinion, disappointments and so on)
Re: Poll: No, Really, What Was Nintendo's Worst Year?
@Ultrasmiles Although i also don't think that 2020 is not that bad we gotta be a bit more realistic... Xenoblade is a remaster as good as it is, shin megami tensei is set for 2021 and Metroid 4 is in development since 2019 after it got initially scraped, zelda botw 2 would also be quite the shadow drop if it still comes this year(very unlikely for zelda).
Not saying that those games cannot happen, it just does not seem too likely
Re: Poll: No, Really, What Was Nintendo's Worst Year?
@rushiosan guess we really can just hope for the best, but don't be too pessimistic. Bravely default 2 at least was pretty much confirmed in 2020
Re: Poll: No, Really, What Was Nintendo's Worst Year?
@LilMuku I am not sure if ACNH not being big before is a good argument, it is big now so it is a major selling title this year right?
Also, one may argue that Tokyo mirage sessions may not be a big franchise compared to paper mario as well.
On the flipside, if we only go by games that have released that year without looking at its quality, yeah we also got a new paper mario, a new fire emblem, a new metroid, a new mario party and a new Star fox in 2016 so it is probably really gonna be much better than 2020. It might depend more on personal opinion than i initially thought
Lastly, i guess the year is only halfway over, so does it really make sense to compare these two years, especially with all that silence right now?
Re: Poll: No, Really, What Was Nintendo's Worst Year?
@rushiosan since you mentioned all the games i would recommend this year seems to be very grim for you... but they might still release something, probably hollow knight: silksong and bravely default 2 if you are interested. there must be at least one other first party game right?
Re: Poll: No, Really, What Was Nintendo's Worst Year?
@BenAV did you forget donkey kong country returns or is that in decent releases? other than that i probably have to agree: 2010 was not really too exciting
Re: Talking Point: Are You Prepared To Spend $70 On The Latest Games?
I would only pay that much for the Nintendo flagship games like Zelda botw or a really long game like xenoblade where i know i actually use the time... even then i might wait for a price drop unless i really want it now
Re: Japanese Charts: Paper Mario Loses Out To Ghost Of Tsushima On Debut
These numbers are really good for switch games, i didn't expect them to be this good. Especially Mario kart 8 deluxe is crazy, considering this game released 6 years ago for the first time(base game i mean)
Re: Review: Dex - A Compelling Cyberpunk Mash-Up
mhhm i wonder: should i get this game next, Furi or Katana Zero. Anybody in for a little subjective rating?
Re: Poll: No, Really, What Was Nintendo's Worst Year?
@OorWullie same sadly... which made 2016 even worse. But i just saw that Fire emblem Fates released 2016 at least
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (July 25th)
Still gotta finish Xenoblade chronicles, then its Catherine time
Re: Mega Man's Live-Action Movie Still Happening, Expect Big News Soon
When did a Nintendo live action movie actually ever work out to be great?
Re: Poll: No, Really, What Was Nintendo's Worst Year?
@LilMuku but the year is not really done yet and even by your list 2020 and 2016 seem to be at least the same level of bad
Re: Poll: No, Really, What Was Nintendo's Worst Year?
@OorWullie unless you lived in japan that time, there was no tokyo mirage session for you though, as far as i know it released 2016. I agree though that overall 2016 was much worse
Re: Poll: No, Really, What Was Nintendo's Worst Year?
@LilMuku I actually don't think those were that bad. 2010 we got Mario galaxy 2, Pokemon black and white, donkey kong country returns, metroid other M if you like and xenoblade. 2011 was maybe a bit thinner with mario kart 7, super mario 3d land, Zelda skyward sword... personally there was the last story too which i love
Re: Poll: No, Really, What Was Nintendo's Worst Year?
@TheFrenchiestFry looking back at the lineup i probably wholeheartedly agree with you. The only game which was interesting for me that time was Pokemon Sun. Color Splash was mediocre at best, Star fox zero was a disappointment, Metroid prime Federation Forces was a joke, don't even remember Mario party Star rush anymore... I was probably too hyped about the breath of the wild trailer that time.
This makes me not want to complain about this year anymore, especially when it is not even done yet.
Re: Poll: No, Really, What Was Nintendo's Worst Year?
@fortius54 i agree, though i presume that you mean 2020
Re: Random: Fan Photoshops Masks Onto Every Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Character
@NinChocolate thanks, people would probably be living behind the moon if they didn't know that and read it here now tho
Re: Atelier Ryza 2: Lost Legends & The Secret Fairy Flutters To Switch This Winter
@XenoShaun It looks alright, what would you say are its best features?
Re: Feature: Upcoming Nintendo Switch RPGs To Look Out For In 2020
@TheWingedAvenger you are very welcome! I was getting that information mostly from the reddit thread of genshin impact
Re: Poll: Did The Nintendo Direct Mini: Partners Showcase Meet Your Expectations?
The Shin megami tensei reveal was very nice. It is still next year though so it was definitely underwhelming. I expected axiom verge 2, hollow knight:silksong or bravely default 2. At least some interesting third party game before christmas? I get that there are still more to come but its still a shame big sigh
Re: Atelier Ryza 2: Lost Legends & The Secret Fairy Flutters To Switch This Winter
@nhSnork i see, that might be it. Thankyou very much
Re: Atelier Ryza 2: Lost Legends & The Secret Fairy Flutters To Switch This Winter
Why didn't they just show this to us in the western direct?
Re: Feature: How Do Switch eShop Discounts Impact Game Sales?
I mostly don't know many of the lesser known indie titles and just check out the sales, then if something strikes my interest i check for it online and if i like it i buy it. Its very rarely that i actually wait for a game to go on sale.
Re: Expect More Nintendo Direct Mini: Partner Showcases Throughout 2020
@INKT that is one explanation i can live with
Re: Watch: Nintendo Direct Mini: Partner Showcase July 2020
@e-love are you.... making fun of this directs HIGHLIGHT!!!
Re: Gamer Girl Developer Removes Trailer And Marketing Materials Following Online Backlash
That is a shame, the style of game i actually like. Being a mod who controls the chat messages and seeing how the story plays out. Maybe let us play the game first and then decide how bad or good it is at least? It is a modern topic after all and there are countless movies and games that can be labelled questionable if this can
Re: Review: 1993 Shenandoah - One For Hardcore Amiga Fans Only
Then if i may, i am gonna be second now
Re: Feature: Best Nintendo Switch RPGs
@SyFyTy I am not sure how good you can compare those two. First of all: There is more to a game than story, there are also mechanics, which are usually more the focus of many games and even setting, atmosphere, music and direction of it all. Also there have been attempts at putting proffesional novel authors behind a games story like in Fire emblem fates and the story was hated a lot. Big authors like Steven King of course would also need to want to participate and they might need to adapt to suddenly writing an rpg story, along with several constrictions for the age rating. There are still some good stories in games every now and then and there can just be good directors as well like yoko taro(Nier Automata). Finally, the market for good stories is not that high actually, most people wanna have a good time after all