And stuff like this is why people hate DLC. Devs decide they should add a tedious mechanic, with paid DLC to bypass it. If DLC is gonna be in the game, it shouldn't be this. I'll even admit Nintendo did some of this with Fire Emblem: Awakening's Golden Pack, and I bought it.
Very few games can actually pull off death/getting stuck feel "fun". If it's no fun to die, then I don't want to die. If it's fun to die, make the game hard so I die constantly (FTL is a good example).
@nik1470 As far as I know, emulators are legal. Giving someone the tools to break the law, and actually breaking the law are two very different things. Some people actually get the roms themselves using devices such as the retrode.
They get criticized for going low? I've never heard anyone criticize Steam... retailers seemed to have learned to deal with Steam. Then again, I rarely see Steam games as a disc :/
@johndevine "It is also a shame about Ultra SFIV not coming to Wii U." "The Wii U does not need games like this. [Injustice]" So games you define as good should be on the system while games you don't, shouldn't? A game being good or bad is a matter of opinion, and based of of the reviews I've read would imply a good amount of people like the game. Why do your opinions effect what games a console needs?
@johndevine Sure you're replying to the right person? I never brought up my favorite superhero. I brought up the fact that if a game doesn't sell on the Wii U, it's probably not a good idea to re-release it. And sales are not "nonsense" FYI. WB and NetherRealm are businesses, so profitability comes before a few people who want this.
@johndevine 750,000 sales on the Xbox 360 alone would like to say otherwise
(back on topic) I can see why they won't put it on the Wii U. It only sold 60k copies whereas the PS3 version sold 580k and the Xbox 360 version sold 750k. (VGChartz as my source). Nice to see 'em release it on the PC though, maybe I'll pick a copy up
ThruSpace looked interesting, but I doubt I'll pick it up. Super Mario Kart looks interesting, but since I already own MKWii, I really see no reason to buy it.
Swapping out a minor feature to make sure no version was plainly better than the rest, but the Wii U features would have to be incredible to warrant taking that off. @Macarony64 Um, did you ever think maybe they don't want to hurt the sales of the 360 version?
I'm gonna lol so hard if it includes an RPG activity using the balance board to walk. On second thought, that'd actually be pretty cool, and I'd buy Wii Fit U for it (if I had a Wii U)
@edhe But none of Valve's games are on the Wii U are they? If they really want this to be a console competitor, they won't launch any new ones on consoles.
@Austroid No not at all. Sorry if I wasn't clear enough. If I have to pick between not having Toon Link and having Toon Link, I want him, even if he's just a Link clone.
@JaxonH Steam has plenty exclusives of it's own my friend. Nintendo first party franchises are amazing games, but Valve offers Portal, Half-Life, Team Fortress, Counter-Strike, Dota, and a few other odds and ends. As well as that it offers plenty of games that are on Steam. I think that would fill my "gaping hole".
@CanisWolfred Well I got a premade PC for $500 and it can play any game on Steam (any game I've tried at the very least), and since I imagine they'll get quite a pretty penny from the amounts of games people will buy for the console/pc hybrid, it's quite possible it will be sold at a loss.
@tudsworth I hope so. My brother has the Dark Edition for the Wii preordered and has already purchased a skylander he can't use (a Giants figure, we only have Spyro's Adventure) because it was limited edition. It's gonna be pretty bad for us if he doesn't like the game.
That's both a good and a bad thing. If it doesn't meet these sales expectations, then they could lose money, but it means the game will be more polished.
@dereq Nintendo is the major factor behind why it's not coming. But, instead of maybe starting a petition, or anything really, we get articles like these. Now, you've (meaning the people who argue about why they wouldn't but it even if it was on Wii U) proven it won't sell.
@Cohort Well, while plenty of blame goes to Nintendo, articles like this make it only worse. If you guys want the game on the Wii U, tell devs. Don't use reverse psychology, it doesn't work with companies lol
@Luigitornado but instead of trying to prove to the publishers that they should put it on Nintendo consoles, they say they won't buy it, ruining any hope of getting it on a Nintendo console.
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Re: Reggie Fils-Aime To Tour North American Cities to Play Wii U and 3DS Titles With the Public
@GearsOfWarU I'm gonna lol pretty hard if I'm your relative. (Fuquay in NC correct?)
Re: Reggie Fils-Aime To Tour North American Cities to Play Wii U and 3DS Titles With the Public
Maybe he'll come to the sprawling metropolis that is Fuquay-Varina! Oh who am I kidding, why would anyone ever come here
Re: Talking Point: What Games Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue Nineteen
Terraria PC Master race, New Leaf, Guild Wars 2, Fire Emblem: Awakening
Re: Readers Of EDGE Consider Ocarina Of Time And Mario 64 To Be The Best Games Of The Last 20 Years
Ocarina of Time as the best game in 20 years? That's... disappointing...
Re: Pokémon Developers: Paid DLC Could "Ruin The Worldview" of The Franchise
But of course, it could make it better. DLC is a double-edged sword, after all.
Re: Bravely Default To Feature Optional Special Attack Abilities as Microtransactions
And stuff like this is why people hate DLC. Devs decide they should add a tedious mechanic, with paid DLC to bypass it. If DLC is gonna be in the game, it shouldn't be this. I'll even admit Nintendo did some of this with Fire Emblem: Awakening's Golden Pack, and I bought it.
Re: Eiji Aonuma Wants it to be "Fun To Get Stuck" in A Link Between Worlds
@Spoony_Tech especially if it's with a pretty girl
Re: Eiji Aonuma Wants it to be "Fun To Get Stuck" in A Link Between Worlds
Very few games can actually pull off death/getting stuck feel "fun". If it's no fun to die, then I don't want to die. If it's fun to die, make the game hard so I die constantly (FTL is a good example).
Re: Illegal Nintendo Clones Are Running Rampant On Windows Store
@nik1470 As far as I know, emulators are legal. Giving someone the tools to break the law, and actually breaking the law are two very different things. Some people actually get the roms themselves using devices such as the retrode.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Catch-22 With Retail Game Pricing
@Williaint Really? Never heard that before. Shoot high with regular sales and price drops would be a good compromise IMO.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Catch-22 With Retail Game Pricing
They get criticized for going low? I've never heard anyone criticize Steam... retailers seemed to have learned to deal with Steam. Then again, I rarely see Steam games as a disc :/
Re: Developer Interview: Ludosity Talks Ittle Dew, The Comparison To Zelda And The Metroidvania Style of Play
I'm quite interested in the game. It looks pretty fun, and a Link with that personality seems hilarious.
Re: News Site Claims That Zelda "Takes A Dim View Of Workers, People Of Colour And Women"
Hmm, I think it's more green, but that's just me.
Re: How To Survive Developer Points Out Reason For Lack of Online Multiplayer In Wii U Version
@Macarony64 You said it could damage the sales of the 360 version in your prior comment, but now your saying it can't. Which is it lol?
Re: Injustice: Gods Among Us Ultimate Edition Isn't Coming To Wii U
@johndevine "It is also a shame about Ultra SFIV not coming to Wii U." "The Wii U does not need games like this. [Injustice]" So games you define as good should be on the system while games you don't, shouldn't? A game being good or bad is a matter of opinion, and based of of the reviews I've read would imply a good amount of people like the game. Why do your opinions effect what games a console needs?
Re: Injustice: Gods Among Us Ultimate Edition Isn't Coming To Wii U
@johndevine Sorry if either of my replies came off as harsh or offensive. That was not my intent.
Re: Injustice: Gods Among Us Ultimate Edition Isn't Coming To Wii U
@johndevine Sure you're replying to the right person? I never brought up my favorite superhero. I brought up the fact that if a game doesn't sell on the Wii U, it's probably not a good idea to re-release it. And sales are not "nonsense" FYI. WB and NetherRealm are businesses, so profitability comes before a few people who want this.
Re: Injustice: Gods Among Us Ultimate Edition Isn't Coming To Wii U
@johndevine 750,000 sales on the Xbox 360 alone would like to say otherwise
(back on topic) I can see why they won't put it on the Wii U. It only sold 60k copies whereas the PS3 version sold 580k and the Xbox 360 version sold 750k. (VGChartz as my source). Nice to see 'em release it on the PC though, maybe I'll pick a copy up
Re: Club Nintendo Rewards are Updated for October
ThruSpace looked interesting, but I doubt I'll pick it up. Super Mario Kart looks interesting, but since I already own MKWii, I really see no reason to buy it.
Re: How To Survive Developer Points Out Reason For Lack of Online Multiplayer In Wii U Version
Swapping out a minor feature to make sure no version was plainly better than the rest, but the Wii U features would have to be incredible to warrant taking that off. @Macarony64 Um, did you ever think maybe they don't want to hurt the sales of the 360 version?
Re: Review: Myst (3DS)
A 1 out of 10?

Re: Review: Pokémon X & Y (3DS)
How's the transferring? Do I need to buy pokebank, or can I do it a different way?
Re: Pandora's Tower Creator Ganbarion Is Co-Developing Wii Fit U
I'm gonna lol so hard if it includes an RPG activity using the balance board to walk. On second thought, that'd actually be pretty cool, and I'd buy Wii Fit U for it (if I had a Wii U)
Re: Nintendo Considering Cross-Buy eShop Purchases, But Doesn't Have Anything To Announce Yet
This is a must for me to continue buying from their store. The "the developers are who we listen to" excuse isn't cutting it Nintendo.
Re: Nintendo Reveals Big Plans for Indiecade
Needs moar terraria. And FTL. FTL would be a good fit on the 3DS.
Re: We Opened Up The Nintendo 2DS And Found A 1300mAh Battery Inside
My original 3DS battery lasts for a pretty good amount of time with 3D off and power saving mode on.
Re: Spin the Bottle: Bumpie's Party DLC to Make Use of Wii U GamePad's Camera
@Striker667 But this is a party game. The problem is that it's casual.
Re: Weirdness: Here's a Team Fortress 2 Star Fox Deathmatch Mod
That's pretty awesome for a mod.
Re: Extra Pre-Order DLC Available for Sonic Lost World on Wii U
@CanisWolfred You and me both my friend, you and me both...
Re: Kickstarter Project Opens For Edge of Eternity, Wii U Version On The Cards
That game needs a lot of polish.
Re: Talking Point: The Steam Gaming Machines Are An Unconventional Challenge to the Wii U
@edhe But none of Valve's games are on the Wii U are they? If they really want this to be a console competitor, they won't launch any new ones on consoles.
Re: Toon Link Adventuring Onto Smash Bros. Wii U and 3DS
@Austroid No not at all. Sorry if I wasn't clear enough. If I have to pick between not having Toon Link and having Toon Link, I want him, even if he's just a Link clone.
Re: Talking Point: The Steam Gaming Machines Are An Unconventional Challenge to the Wii U
@JaxonH Steam has plenty exclusives of it's own my friend. Nintendo first party franchises are amazing games, but Valve offers Portal, Half-Life, Team Fortress, Counter-Strike, Dota, and a few other odds and ends. As well as that it offers plenty of games that are on Steam. I think that would fill my "gaping hole".
Re: Talking Point: The Steam Gaming Machines Are An Unconventional Challenge to the Wii U
@CanisWolfred Well I got a premade PC for $500 and it can play any game on Steam (any game I've tried at the very least), and since I imagine they'll get quite a pretty penny from the amounts of games people will buy for the console/pc hybrid, it's quite possible it will be sold at a loss.
Re: Talking Point: The Steam Gaming Machines Are An Unconventional Challenge to the Wii U
I'm interested to see the final announcement. Steam Machines are a threat to all of the consoles it they're fairly priced.
Re: Nintendo and System Exclusives Earn Golden Joystick Nominations
Fire Emblem: Awakening or Animal Crossing: New Leaf? Decisions, decisions. Sorry Nintendo but my vote for GotY goes to Guild Wars 2.
Re: Batman: Arkham Origins Season Pass Confirmed for Wii U
Now if this doesn't sell well, it will be the last season pass that's on the Wii U. For Wii U owners' sake I hope it sells well.
Re: Toon Link Adventuring Onto Smash Bros. Wii U and 3DS
@Austroid I'll take clone characters over no characters any day.
Re: Online Multiplayer Comes To The Super Nintendo Thanks To SNESoIP
Such a simple solution... props to the guys who made it!
Re: Hands On: Skylanders: SWAP Force
@tudsworth I hope so. My brother has the Dark Edition for the Wii preordered and has already purchased a skylander he can't use (a Giants figure, we only have Spyro's Adventure) because it was limited edition. It's gonna be pretty bad for us if he doesn't like the game.
Re: You'll Have to Wait Until December to Get a Pokémon Bank Account
@stillwinds Well, I lack your faith in Nintendo it seems, because until I see the announcement, I'm going with it's not there.
Re: Hands On: Skylanders: SWAP Force
"gameplay between the Wii U, Xbox 360, and PlayStation 3 versions remains the same" what about the regular Wii? Will it's gameplay be different?
Re: Monster Hunter 4 Launch Sales Estimated to be a Series High
That's both a good and a bad thing. If it doesn't meet these sales expectations, then they could lose money, but it means the game will be more polished.
Re: You'll Have to Wait Until December to Get a Pokémon Bank Account
@Coldfirex44 Well, transferring pokemon was free in the last game.
Re: Nintendo Download: 19th September (North America)
I despise impulse purchases, and I've survived steam sales before, but that Monster Hunter discount...
Re: Nintendo's Former President, Hiroshi Yamauchi, Has Passed Away
He changed my life forever. Rest in peace.
Re: Wii Sports Club Takes The Competition Online With HD Visuals And Wii MotionPlus Support
$50 for Wii Sports is a bit much IMO.
Re: Soapbox: Why Grand Theft Auto V Isn't For Me
@dereq Nintendo is the major factor behind why it's not coming. But, instead of maybe starting a petition, or anything really, we get articles like these. Now, you've (meaning the people who argue about why they wouldn't but it even if it was on Wii U) proven it won't sell.
Re: Soapbox: Why Grand Theft Auto V Isn't For Me
@Cohort Well, while plenty of blame goes to Nintendo, articles like this make it only worse. If you guys want the game on the Wii U, tell devs. Don't use reverse psychology, it doesn't work with companies lol
Re: Soapbox: Why Grand Theft Auto V Isn't For Me
@Luigitornado but instead of trying to prove to the publishers that they should put it on Nintendo consoles, they say they won't buy it, ruining any hope of getting it on a Nintendo console.