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Shock of the century.

Seriously though. One company should just take over making all the non gaming tie-in games and make them at least decent. I bet they'd make some cash.

Wow. This thread is kinda ridiculous...

Zelda U hasn't been announced yet. "Announced" means there being a trailer and an official "Hey! This is a game that is coming out in the future!"

You know he didn't just have that Metroid pin on for no reason...

Donkey Kong looks amazing, I'm sure it will be amazing. I'm content. Nintendo is very careful and precise with their reveals people. Don't expect too much.

Everyone go look up Jim Sterling's Squirty Play (mini Let's Play) of "Master Reboot" right now. I am beyond excited for this coming to Wii U.

Hoping that Wii U will build up momentum during the holiday, and keep it going throughout 2014 with big game releases. Longevity is better than short term big sales.

I really want Golf and Baseball. Those were my favorites. Also, naturally, I would like to see the Wii Sports Resort games come out eventually for Wii U.

My thing in general is that when you run a company like Nintendo that is adamant about forging it's own path, you're going to have really rough patches. Yes, Nintendo probably really dropped the ball with advertising and with getting the Wii U concept out there, but that doesn't doom the console. You have to take the successes with the failures. Wii U still has multiple heavy hitter coming out just in the next year. There's so much room for growth in software even without the hardware sales picking up. The Gamecube had a fantastic library of games, and sold enough to get by. That's all that is actually needed, for the Wii u to sell enough to get by. More than that is nice, but not absolutely needed for the console to survive.

You know it's not going to be a new game, that's not how Nintendo has been doing things. I'm going to say Smash Bros with a middle of the year release date and some new characters.

If it hits 6-7 million by the end of the fiscal year, it'll be totally fine. The system is still profitable. That gets lost in all of this. The Wii U makes Nintendo money. It's not going anywhere. People don't need to worry about Nintendo discontinuing the Wii U.

I'd personally rather have Funky Kong (since he's always who I would play as in Mario Kart Wii) but this works too.

At this point, I really don't care too much about Wii U sales as long as the console sells enough to stay afloat. I'm just so happy with the games that Wii U has already and so excited for the games that will be coming in the future to Wii U. Haters can shut it.

This will be the only DLC I buy. No Season Pass for me. I don't need to spend $10 on skins.

@taffy CNet is not so great for gaming, really good for stuff like TV's.

Well, considering that Super Mario 3D World is #1 on Amazon and is sold out on Amazon Canada, I'd say it's selling pretty well. I look forward to asking the people at my local Gamestop how many they sold.

ZombiU 2 is what I want more than any other game other than a new Metroid Prime game... Blasted poor sales preventing me from getting my sequel!!!

So, this game currently has a 94.22 on Game Rankings from 25 reviews. Wow.

Happy birthday Wii U! Regardless of the sales or any of that, I love you. To be honest, I've put more into Wii U than I have ever put into a console. I've shelled out around $1500 from this day last year when I picked up my pre-order. So many great games with so many more to come. There have certainly been ups and downs, but I've loved my Wii U through them all.

Obviously I want Wii U to soar in sales and be a huge success financially for Nintendo, but if it isn't and it finishes in 3rd this console cycle, as long as I get more wonderful games, I'll be happy enough.

I'm a big fan of Suda. His games have soul, which is more than can be said about a lot of the stuff that is on the market as of late. I find it very unsurprising that he's an indie game fan.

They all look great, but I'm really interested in Pier Solar and Teslagrad. Nothing on Rusty Pup though?

Too bad I now have 5 Wii Remote Plus controllers... I'll probably pick up just this game and Wii Fit U around the first of December.

@StooBush: It's kinda useful for sports.

@element187 My fiance games a lot, but she's mostly on the 3DS train. She plays Wii U sometimes, but not too often. Last console game she played was Bayonetta in preparation for Bayonetta 2. We really enjoy playing games like Wii Party U and Mario Party together, so I think we'll enjoy this Mario & Sonic game.

It bothers me how party games get so much crap from so many gamers. If they're fun to play with friends and family, then they are good and they have value. I love games that are difficult and involved and have stories, but not every good game has to have those elements.

Hmm. This is just high enough of a review score to warrant me picking it up this holiday. I loved the trailers. Looks like I'd have a lot of fun with my fiance playing this.

The thing is that Pikmin 3 and Wind Waker HD aren't system sellers in unto themselves. They are quality games that add to a quality catalog that overtime becomes filled with enough quality games that gamers look at it and say, "I need this console." So, I'm fine with their sales.

Super Mario 3D World is a system seller. We'll see how it does. Super Smash Bros. is a system seller. We'll see how it does. Mario Kart 8 is a system seller. We'll see how it does. Zelda HD is a system seller. We'll see how it does.

Price cuts and new bundles are system sellers, and now that we've gotten that, we've already seen an increase. These sales figures don't take all of those new bundle related developments into account. I see no reason to panic, and I don't think Nintendo does either. Consoles need a good 2+ years to come into their own. Everyone relax, take a deep breath, and let things play out. The Wii U isn't dead. Not by a long shot.

@Burning_Spear Yes it does, yes it does...

Great bundle idea, especially with the price cut on Nintendo Land. This should seriously move some units.

This hurts my soul... This game is getting hammered with the exception of the Famitsu score. I'm still excited to play it, but I REALLY wanted this to be amazing.

Also, I don't think is like with ZombiU as someone said earlier. ZombiU got way more good reviews than this is getting.

@unrandomsam You're right. Review scores are just the opinions of certain people. But they happen to be the opinions of well respected people within the industry. People who's opinions are trusted more than others due to experience and knowledge. At least in theory. I think that despite all of the problem that reviewers of any medium have, more often than not they are doing a solid job. More often than not I and most other people (This is anecdotal evidence, not scientific) think that games that are very well reviewed are very good. That doesn't mean that just because a game is well reviewed that everyone will like it or that it is good, but when a series of games like with Zelda have all been so spectacularly well reviewed, I think that's what the meaning of "gold standard" really is.

@SuperMinusWorld: I would agree that 3D Mario games are generally better than their modern 2D (2.5D) counterparts, but I still love the New Super Mario Bros. series. I gave New Super Mario Bros. U 10/10. I thought it was perfect and was the perfect blend of some innovation with classic gameplay with gorgeous HD visuals thrown in.

Not getting anything this week... I'll get Deus Ex in physical form once the price drops.

@unrandomsam You are stating opinion. I'm talking about review scores.

GameRankings:

Ocarina of Time: 97.54 (93.96 for 3D, 89.77 for Master Quest on GCN)
Majora's Mask: 91.95
Wind Waker: 94.43 (90.39 for HD on Wii U)
Twilight Princess: 95 on GCN, 94.58 on Wii
Skyward Sword: 93.25

The first 3 titles (through Link to the Past) are all considered classics. Legend of Zelda games are absolutely considered gold standard by critics, developers, and many gamers.

Also, Skyward Sword is my favorite game in the series, and my second favorite game of all time.

Zelda games are (along with 3D Mario games) the gold standard of the entire industry when it comes to quality. A key component to how great Zelda titles are is that the devs take their time.

@steamhare Gotcha. Didn't even think of that.

@Dambuster Are you a bot? Every time I see you comment "Watch the profanity please — TBD: I don't even see any profanity.

Anyway, both this and Golf are completely outdated. Nintendo should've had a sale where if you get one of them, you get the other half off.

@yvanjean That's not a fair comparison because Xbox One and PS4 haven't come out yet. It doesn't mean anything that Wii U has outsold things that haven't even been released yet. Wii U has performed well below Nintendo sales expectations. That is a fact.

One of the best games I've played this year. Brilliant. I loved being able to decide what way I wanted to complete each mission. Tense, magnificent, fluid gameplay with an interesting plot. 9/10.

@Mrclaycoat Blacklist is amazing IMO. Load times can be rough, but the gameplay is amazing. I'd give it a 9/10. I'd say play that first also because it'll take less time than Wind Waker.

@Mrclaycoat That's the same situation that I'm in. I'm already like, 6 games behind. Still haven't finished Pikmin 3!

Make the game good. I'm totally ok with this.

Wow. It's amazing how this game has gone from kinda a goat of E3 to being the talk of the internet. That gameplay trailer from a few weeks and screens like this have really turned opinion around.

I was just talking about this kind of problem with my fiance last night going to Target. She was like, "why on Earth would Nintendo name it Wii U? That will only confuse casual gamers and casual retailers." I think she's right on the money. Even Wii 2 sounds better than Wii U. Wii U makes it sound like it's an add on for Wii to the casual, uninformed gamer.

Now, hopefully this problem isn't nearly as bad as it was last year, as Wii U has been in the news (even on major, mainstream news outlets) for having a lackluster year in sales. I think this isn't so much of a problem anymore. More of a problem of games, and I think we're seeing that situation improve because Nintendo has dealt with the 3 major problems: Price, software, and visibility/knowledge about the system by casual consumers.

@hydeks The first game has a 68.43 on GameRankings. That doesn't seem terrible to me.

Unless Black Flag sells well (which I don't think it will) on Wii U, I doubt we'd ever see this title.

The more releases the better.

I'll be getting this as soon as it comes to North America.

Picking it up today and paying off Watch_Dogs, Super Mario 3D World, Batman Arkham Origins plus the Season Pass, and Wii Party U. Giving Gamestop allllllllllll my money today!

Nice. Very nice. I mean, I was already going to get this and the Season Pass, but this is greatly appreciated and justified. The base game won't have as much stuff as on other consoles, therefore it shouldn't cost as much.

I'm already getting the game, so I'll probably get this. Don't much care for the Skins, but I want that Story Campaign.

@JaxonH My fiance is picking that one up, since she's a huge DK fan.

Not getting this at launch, but I might pick it up around Christmas... I still have Batman Arkham Origins, Super Mario 3D World, Watch_Dogs, and Wii Party U to pay off!

Loved Unlimited (sorry Europe!) and I expect to love this. Very excited for Tuesday!

I didn't play the original, and I'm not a fan of the show. However, I do know that the game is very well thought of and this remake was well regarded. If I were to pick this up in any form, it would be in the physical copy. I am all about those physical copies over download versions.

Everything in this game works so beautifully. Also, there are only a couple of moments when you are forced out of stealth. If you are really good, you can stealth through the vast majority of the game.

The mechanics are so fluid, and the story is so good, this is much higher than a 7/10 IMO. Not going to pull a LoZ GTA fanboy and start demanding resignations, though. I'd give Blacklist a 9/10. Excellent game through and through.