I also find it funny that the reviewer of the second game on VC said it's not as good as the first game and complained about features being removed, completely opposite of this review.
Shockman is such a strange series. According to this article all three of the PC Engine games play completely differently. For instance, the second game aka Shockman removed the sword attacks, world map, hostage rescues and item upgrades, and play more like Mega Man. The third game brought back sword attacks but also dumbed down the platforming. I just hope the sequels get brought over as well.
I don't know why the Genesis games aren't included outside of licensing issues with Sega. Even the Disney games collection eventually added the SNES version and that was from Capcom.
At least this solved one of the biggest headaches with the SNES version of JP. You could actually save.
A correction. The 1989 Capcom game is named "Dynasty Wars", not "Dynasty Warriors", which is made by Koei although based on the same source material. Also Knights of Valor is more influenced by its sequel Warriors of Fate, as the original is more of a standard action game than a beat em up.
The problem is that Aspyr completely removed the Commando vs Trandoshan multiplayer mode from the rerelease. While it's nothing spectacular it's still missing content.
Disgusting anti-consumer behaviour from ININ/LRG. This isn't the first time they've split up game collections so they could rip off both digital and physical purchasers with FOMO. Darius, Space Invaders, Turrican, Wonder Boy, and now this. And that's not mentioning the times they pressured Japanese publishers to remove English language options from their domestic versions so foreign games are left with LRG's own expensive bare bones collections. They should be boycotted not rewarded.
@MetalKingShield Knights of Valour 1 & 2, Oriental Legend, and The Gladiator are beat em ups, and there seems to be multiple versions. Oriental Legend is based on Journey to the West but it's the developer's first game and the graphics are rather amateurish. The Knights of Valour series are considered to be their best, is based on Romance of the Three Kingdoms, and is inspired by Capcom's beat em ups like Warriors of Fate along with some fighting game moves. The Gladiator is like a spiritual sequel to Knights of Valor but has an original wuxia inspired story.
@Fighting_Game_Loser All of the games except The Gladiator and Demon Front has online support. Last time I checked quite a few people were playing Knights of Valour. However the current servers seem to be hosted in China so if you're playing in the USA you'd get severe lag unfortunately.
@ComfyAko They were quite well known for the Knights of Valour beat em up games, which were huge in the late 90s/early 2000s arcade scene in East Asian countries. Think Capcom's Warriors of Fate up to 11, and the first game alone had multiple versions including a port to the PS4.
It's also out in Australia! Just bought it for $42 and it runs pretty good so far. Martial Masters and The Gladiator are classics, and Knights of Valour is a great beat em up series too.
I wish Digital Eclipse could fix the Genesis version of Tournament Fighters. The game has great stages and character design, ruined by some of the weirdest controls for a fighting game, where strong attacks have to be pulled off by forward+normal attack. Maybe allow us to rebind the controls to a single button.
@whitespy12 The X68000 version of Valis 2 is generally considered the best, right? Pity it's not included here.
Also there is a Famicom version of Valis 1 that included some RPG elements. Knowing the publishers they'd probably release a third collection with the two aforementioned games plus the Genesis version of 3 and SNES version of 4.
@EarthboundBenjy "Super" Valis 4 on SNES NSO is actually heavily cut from the original PCE version, which had three playable characters, better designed levels, and whole sets of animated intros. Part of the appeal of the original is to utilise all three characters to see which fits the situation, whereas the SNES port combined them into one character and made their standard attacks into subweapons. It's pretty much comparing Castlevania Dracula X to Rondo of Blood.
@John_Deacon ININ is the only other publisher that love to overprice their retro collections: Darius, Space Invaders, Turrican, Wonder Boy etc. They also have a ridiculous habit of releasing a cheaper but incomplete collection digitally, and another more complete collection for Limited Run, and release the latter digitally a few years later, screwing those who bought the cheaper collection. IIRC the last Wonder Boy collection they release cost $50 US, more than double the price of the TMNT collection where I live.
@shonenjump86 The SNES version of Valis 4 sucks and the PC Engine version included is much better, as it includes extra playable characters. But the Genesis versions of Valis 1 and 2 included aren't as good as the PC Engine ones in the other collection.
Also the original MSX Valis is considered to be one of the worst games of all time - imagine stiff Castlevania 1 style jumps, constantly respawning monsters, and large but boring maze like levels.
@Serialsid Except for the fact that the last reliable sources on Series sales are from 2021. Europe has been historically been one of the key regions where the PS brand sell really well.
I'm glad you're enjoying PSVR2 but for many others it's just an add on, and I've heard plenty of good things about the Series controller as well, especially the Elite 2.
There are plenty of legitimate criticisms about the way Jim Ryan is running the company, including shutting down Japan Studio, refusing to greenlight the Days Gone sequel for not getting good enough reviews, the ridiculous backflipping on cross-platform play, promoting censorship that even Nintendo allowed to pass. And instead of fighting with MS over COD, how about actually reviving Killzone which is one of the most distinct shooters of the PS3 era?
@Serialsid Keep convincing yourself that. Both consoles were constrained by chip shortages and Xbox hasn't brought out its heavy guns yet. You can't survive on goodwill from last gen alone, and the Series X is fantastic as an emulator box.
@Krisi The annoying thing is that it doesn't contain all the games, especially the ones by UPL instead of Jaleco. Ninja Kid and Ninja Kid 2 all had NES ports which aren't included, as well as Ninja Taro for GB, which apparent is a better Zelda clone than the NES one.
@Fizza The NSO game is actually the odd one out since the rest of the Ninja Kun games are side scrolling platformers. It's pretty much the Mario Bros to Super Mario Bros. Interestingly one of the NES games is pretty much a SMB3 ripoff.
@KindofaBigDeal LMAO. MS brought all of their XB1 era games to PC, and is still supporting Minecraft to multiple platforms, even though they have the right to make it Xbox/PC exclusive. And they're the one promoting cross platform play, while Sony's the one trying to wall off their network.
@PoorGeno It doesn't change the fact that the average pay rate for CEOs rose by 1322% since 1978. Are you suggesting that they are doing working 1322% harder? LOL
@kingbk Wow, so wanting to paid fairly is apparently "SJW" now. What do you think trade unions do? I hope you work for the rest of your life in a non-unionized, at will employment workplace without complaining, because otherwise that makes you a SJW.
Oh please. Captain Lou was doing Mario's voice long before Charles Martinet, and he actually sounds like an Italian plumber, not some series of high pitched squicks. Martinet's voice is okay for a few short sentences in a video game, not a two hour movie.
@PoorGeno "CEOs are hard-working (and hard-headed)."
LOL. I'm sure Bobby Kotick totally deserve the million dollar bonuses he gave himself, and not the employees he fired for making Crash Bandicoot 4 a success.
@RiasGremory That doesn't automatically make the game good, nor is having tricky platforms and the infamous underwater level. I'm sure "patience" can also get you through the NES's worst platformers/shooters like Conan and Silver Surfer.
Have to disagree with the review on one thing: there's no way TMNT 1 on NES is better than TMNT 3. It's a horribly designed platformer that won't even let your turtles swim. Enough said.
@Aya-chan It was the early 90s, and since many back then still viewed video games as kids' toys, Hoskins wasn't in the target demographic.
Plus the NES wasn't as big as in the UK (where Hoskins was from) as it was in the USA due to a botched distribution deal with Mattel, and home computers and Sega consoles were more popular then.
At this stage I'd prefer Hamster to port the game along with Visco's other Neo Geo games. QUByte is just trolling people at the stage.
Also I found it surprising that this game still have a tournament scene, out of the numerous Neo Geo fighting games. World Heroes Perfect IIRC is on the same boat.
@anoyonmus If you're so concerned about your info being stolen you might as well stay away from F2P games. And I'm more concerned about my info being taken by my own government than a foreign one who can't affect me one bit.
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Re: Mini Review: Cyber Citizen Shockman - A Belated Western Debut For The First (And Worst) Shubibinman
I also find it funny that the reviewer of the second game on VC said it's not as good as the first game and complained about features being removed, completely opposite of this review.
https://www.nintendolife.com/reviews/2007/04/shockman_virtual_console
Re: Mini Review: Cyber Citizen Shockman - A Belated Western Debut For The First (And Worst) Shubibinman
Shockman is such a strange series. According to this article all three of the PC Engine games play completely differently. For instance, the second game aka Shockman removed the sword attacks, world map, hostage rescues and item upgrades, and play more like Mega Man. The third game brought back sword attacks but also dumbed down the platforming. I just hope the sequels get brought over as well.
http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/schbibinman/
Re: The Jurassic Park Games Are Getting A 30th Anniversary Retro Collection
I don't know why the Genesis games aren't included outside of licensing issues with Sega. Even the Disney games collection eventually added the SNES version and that was from Capcom.
At least this solved one of the biggest headaches with the SNES version of JP. You could actually save.
Re: Review: IGS Classic Arcade Collection - An Excellent Selection, Poorly Presented
@Serpenterror Agreed although I'd say that M2 or Hamster are better when it comes to ports of retro games.
Re: Review: IGS Classic Arcade Collection - An Excellent Selection, Poorly Presented
A correction. The 1989 Capcom game is named "Dynasty Wars", not "Dynasty Warriors", which is made by Koei although based on the same source material. Also Knights of Valor is more influenced by its sequel Warriors of Fate, as the original is more of a standard action game than a beat em up.
Re: Nintendo's Next Switch Game Trial Is Now Available To Online Subscribers (North America)
The problem is that Aspyr completely removed the Commando vs Trandoshan multiplayer mode from the rerelease. While it's nothing spectacular it's still missing content.
Re: RayStorm X RayCrisis HD Collection Brings Two Taito Shmup Masterpieces To Switch
Disgusting anti-consumer behaviour from ININ/LRG. This isn't the first time they've split up game collections so they could rip off both digital and physical purchasers with FOMO. Darius, Space Invaders, Turrican, Wonder Boy, and now this. And that's not mentioning the times they pressured Japanese publishers to remove English language options from their domestic versions so foreign games are left with LRG's own expensive bare bones collections. They should be boycotted not rewarded.
Re: Surprise! Classic PolyGame Master Arcade Titles Are Coming To Switch
@MetalKingShield Knights of Valour 1 & 2, Oriental Legend, and The Gladiator are beat em ups, and there seems to be multiple versions. Oriental Legend is based on Journey to the West but it's the developer's first game and the graphics are rather amateurish. The Knights of Valour series are considered to be their best, is based on Romance of the Three Kingdoms, and is inspired by Capcom's beat em ups like Warriors of Fate along with some fighting game moves. The Gladiator is like a spiritual sequel to Knights of Valor but has an original wuxia inspired story.
Re: Surprise! Classic PolyGame Master Arcade Titles Are Coming To Switch
@Fighting_Game_Loser All of the games except The Gladiator and Demon Front has online support. Last time I checked quite a few people were playing Knights of Valour. However the current servers seem to be hosted in China so if you're playing in the USA you'd get severe lag unfortunately.
Re: Surprise! Classic PolyGame Master Arcade Titles Are Coming To Switch
@ComfyAko They were quite well known for the Knights of Valour beat em up games, which were huge in the late 90s/early 2000s arcade scene in East Asian countries. Think Capcom's Warriors of Fate up to 11, and the first game alone had multiple versions including a port to the PS4.
Re: Surprise! Classic PolyGame Master Arcade Titles Are Coming To Switch
It's also out in Australia! Just bought it for $42 and it runs pretty good so far. Martial Masters and The Gladiator are classics, and Knights of Valour is a great beat em up series too.
Re: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Cowabunga Collection Switch Update Arrives Today
I wish Digital Eclipse could fix the Genesis version of Tournament Fighters. The game has great stages and character design, ruined by some of the weirdest controls for a fighting game, where strong attacks have to be pulled off by forward+normal attack. Maybe allow us to rebind the controls to a single button.
Re: Review: Assault Suits Valken Declassified - A Great Treatment Of A Mecha Classic
Next up, the same devs should buy the rights to Metal Warriors and christen it "Assault Suits Gideon".
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Octopath Traveler II?
@UltimateOtaku91 Most Xbox fans don't even like JRPGs in general, so I don't know what you're on about.
Re: Valis: The Fantasm Soldier Collection II Scores A Surprise eShop Release
@whitespy12 The X68000 version of Valis 2 is generally considered the best, right? Pity it's not included here.
Also there is a Famicom version of Valis 1 that included some RPG elements. Knowing the publishers they'd probably release a third collection with the two aforementioned games plus the Genesis version of 3 and SNES version of 4.
Re: Valis: The Fantasm Soldier Collection II Scores A Surprise eShop Release
@EarthboundBenjy "Super" Valis 4 on SNES NSO is actually heavily cut from the original PCE version, which had three playable characters, better designed levels, and whole sets of animated intros. Part of the appeal of the original is to utilise all three characters to see which fits the situation, whereas the SNES port combined them into one character and made their standard attacks into subweapons. It's pretty much comparing Castlevania Dracula X to Rondo of Blood.
Re: Valis: The Fantasm Soldier Collection II Scores A Surprise eShop Release
@John_Deacon ININ is the only other publisher that love to overprice their retro collections: Darius, Space Invaders, Turrican, Wonder Boy etc. They also have a ridiculous habit of releasing a cheaper but incomplete collection digitally, and another more complete collection for Limited Run, and release the latter digitally a few years later, screwing those who bought the cheaper collection. IIRC the last Wonder Boy collection they release cost $50 US, more than double the price of the TMNT collection where I live.
Re: Valis: The Fantasm Soldier Collection II Scores A Surprise eShop Release
@shonenjump86 The SNES version of Valis 4 sucks and the PC Engine version included is much better, as it includes extra playable characters. But the Genesis versions of Valis 1 and 2 included aren't as good as the PC Engine ones in the other collection.
Also the original MSX Valis is considered to be one of the worst games of all time - imagine stiff Castlevania 1 style jumps, constantly respawning monsters, and large but boring maze like levels.
Re: Microsoft's Commitment To Bring Call Of Duty To Nintendo Is Now Legally Binding
@Serialsid Except for the fact that the last reliable sources on Series sales are from 2021. Europe has been historically been one of the key regions where the PS brand sell really well.
I'm glad you're enjoying PSVR2 but for many others it's just an add on, and I've heard plenty of good things about the Series controller as well, especially the Elite 2.
There are plenty of legitimate criticisms about the way Jim Ryan is running the company, including shutting down Japan Studio, refusing to greenlight the Days Gone sequel for not getting good enough reviews, the ridiculous backflipping on cross-platform play, promoting censorship that even Nintendo allowed to pass. And instead of fighting with MS over COD, how about actually reviving Killzone which is one of the most distinct shooters of the PS3 era?
Re: Microsoft's Commitment To Bring Call Of Duty To Nintendo Is Now Legally Binding
@Serialsid Keep convincing yourself that. Both consoles were constrained by chip shortages and Xbox hasn't brought out its heavy guns yet. You can't survive on goodwill from last gen alone, and the Series X is fantastic as an emulator box.
Re: Japanese Best-Seller 'Ninja JaJaMaru' Gets Multiple Collections On Switch
@Krisi The annoying thing is that it doesn't contain all the games, especially the ones by UPL instead of Jaleco. Ninja Kid and Ninja Kid 2 all had NES ports which aren't included, as well as Ninja Taro for GB, which apparent is a better Zelda clone than the NES one.
Re: Japanese Best-Seller 'Ninja JaJaMaru' Gets Multiple Collections On Switch
@Fizza The NSO game is actually the odd one out since the rest of the Ninja Kun games are side scrolling platformers. It's pretty much the Mario Bros to Super Mario Bros. Interestingly one of the NES games is pretty much a SMB3 ripoff.
Re: Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Would Love To See Call Of Duty On Nintendo Switch
@KindofaBigDeal LMAO. MS brought all of their XB1 era games to PC, and is still supporting Minecraft to multiple platforms, even though they have the right to make it Xbox/PC exclusive. And they're the one promoting cross platform play, while Sony's the one trying to wall off their network.
Re: Fired Nintendo Worker Comes Forward With An Account Of Their Dismissal
@PoorGeno It doesn't change the fact that the average pay rate for CEOs rose by 1322% since 1978. Are you suggesting that they are doing working 1322% harder? LOL
Re: Bayonetta's New Voice Actor Jennifer Hale Issues Statement About Bayonetta 3
@kingbk Wow, so wanting to paid fairly is apparently "SJW" now. What do you think trade unions do? I hope you work for the rest of your life in a non-unionized, at will employment workplace without complaining, because otherwise that makes you a SJW.
Re: Voice Of Mario Charles Martinet Thanks Fans For All The "Love And Kindness"
Oh please. Captain Lou was doing Mario's voice long before Charles Martinet, and he actually sounds like an Italian plumber, not some series of high pitched squicks. Martinet's voice is okay for a few short sentences in a video game, not a two hour movie.
Re: Fired Nintendo Worker Comes Forward With An Account Of Their Dismissal
@PoorGeno "CEOs are hard-working (and hard-headed)."
LOL. I'm sure Bobby Kotick totally deserve the million dollar bonuses he gave himself, and not the employees he fired for making Crash Bandicoot 4 a success.
Re: Review: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Cowabunga Collection - The New Gold Standard For Retro Compilations
@RiasGremory That doesn't automatically make the game good, nor is having tricky platforms and the infamous underwater level. I'm sure "patience" can also get you through the NES's worst platformers/shooters like Conan and Silver Surfer.
Re: Review: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Cowabunga Collection - The New Gold Standard For Retro Compilations
Have to disagree with the review on one thing: there's no way TMNT 1 on NES is better than TMNT 3. It's a horribly designed platformer that won't even let your turtles swim. Enough said.
Re: Random: Bob Hoskins Didn't Know Super Mario Bros. Movie Was Based On A Game
@Aya-chan It was the early 90s, and since many back then still viewed video games as kids' toys, Hoskins wasn't in the target demographic.
Plus the NES wasn't as big as in the UK (where Hoskins was from) as it was in the USA due to a botched distribution deal with Mattel, and home computers and Sega consoles were more popular then.
Re: Classic 2D Fighter 'Breakers Collection' Will Support Rollback Netcode & Cross-Play
At this stage I'd prefer Hamster to port the game along with Visco's other Neo Geo games. QUByte is just trolling people at the stage.
Also I found it surprising that this game still have a tournament scene, out of the numerous Neo Geo fighting games. World Heroes Perfect IIRC is on the same boat.
Re: Riot Announces Rhythm Runner 'Hextech Mayhem: A League Of Legends Story' For Nintendo Switch
@anoyonmus If you're so concerned about your info being stolen you might as well stay away from F2P games. And I'm more concerned about my info being taken by my own government than a foreign one who can't affect me one bit.