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I think the Switch library ranks among Nintendo's best. But is it fair to compare console generation output when games have become much larger and require much more resources from a dev and QA perspective?

Nintendo has also been pretty good at adding additional content to games post-launch, which requires continuous resources and testing as well.

The overwhelming majority of Nintendo titles on the Switch have been fantastic. I think if we were to find 20 Nintendo titles for a hypothetical "Switch classic," we would see it is right up there with some of their most cherished legacy systems.

I thought the reaction to the save news would have generated some more positivity given this site's watershed of articles on the topic and hundreds and hundreds of subsequent comments expressing outrage and disbelief.

Guess the reactions aren't quite as passionate when people are done with a game than during the fun pre-release tear-down period.

The Switch has been perfect for these retro-feels. Looking forward to this, and later, Cyber Shadow (need release date please).

This is fine with me. Directs took on a life of their own, with the hype, speculation, and analysis around the event itself overshadowing the actual games showcased. Expectations became more and more with each event. 5 mins after one ended the “ thats nice...what will they do in the next Direct?” would start all over again. Nintendo should try something different.

I get it’s not ideal, but it also wont impact 95% of people complaining.

Youd think everyone is losing their save data or entire consoles on a weekly basis.

I would forgive the lack of physical if the price was reasonable. No chance at $60. That's gross.

BOTW 2 would be great - I just hope they don't rush it.

We don't have an exclusive Donkey Kong Country game yet for Switch. Maybe Retro was working on that?

Knowing Nintendo, it could be something out of left field, like the Link's Awakening remake.

Wishlist

1. Wart
2. Crash Bandicoot
3. Geralt
4. Crono
5. K.K. Slider
6. Astral Chain twins (w/legion)

This thing will literally melt in your hands trying to play a real PC game in the 2 hours the battery lasts. Plus for Steam, streaming etc you'd need internet at all times...again running into issues Stadia is facing.

it's one thing to make a proof-of-concept, and another to enter a handheld market against Nintendo and compete, let alone best them.

The character looks interesting, and it makes sense: Nintendo property, recent release, and slots into Smash nicely.

But I know it will be best to stay off gaming sites for the next week as there will be largely be nothing but moaning.

@QueenKittenWrite I agree - Smash reveals in a direct have become kind of expected now, which means theyve lost the element of surprise.

I think we will still get a direct, since Nintendo has a lot to reveal for 2020, including loads of Animal Crossing details. Everyone knew the last smash reveal was coming, so better off to leave it in its own presentation.

Travis Touchdown...

"No More Heroes 3" on the way. i think it will be him. Could be an interesting fighter?

Darn - I really wanted to play Welda - Bread of the Wire.

Really need a release date for Cyber Shadow...

@Supadav03
I agree completely. If you are an old-school gamer and are familiar with jrpgs from the 90s and "Kawazu" style games, you will enjoy this.

The mechanics, ideas and risks taken in this series are really interesting, even if they don't always execute the best. It still does some innovative and unique things, so I would totally give it a shot. It's also really beautiful with the remaster. There are plenty of online guides around too if you really get stuck.

Reports are coming in that Pokémon sword and shield is also responsible for the Australian wildfires, the Kennedy assassination and the music of Yanni.

For an old timer like me, it is remarkable to be able own ff7 on a cartridge for a Nintendo console.

Thank you, Conan

This makes me nostalgic for 1988 when I railed against Nintendo for re-using assets from Doki Doki Panic to make Super Mario Bros. 2. It totally ruined the game for everyone forever and its existence was thankfully forgotten.

I am neck deep in 100+ hour switch rpgs, but this will still be a day one purchase.

If square can give us chrono trigger, ff 5 & 6, and xenogears, i wont need another console.

I thought the Nintendo Online service was utter trash? Now apparently it is so great the thing to complain about is the controller stock. It takes effort keeping up with the complaint-flavor of the day.

@BanjoPickles Exactly. We are deep in multiple 60+ hour titles being released pretty much weekly for the next few months...and suddenly Donkey Kong Country is top priority for everyone?

To those so utterly desperate for these games: if this is such a priority to you in the face of the already large Switch library, why not go down to one of the many retro brick and mortar shops around, or the thousands of listings online, and purchase the hardware and handful of titles you cannot live without?

Awesome news! Now we won't have monthly threads of endless complaining (on this topic anyways)

Thanks for the entertaining insta-hysterics!

Unexpected news! The original is dear to me.

It is looking very "mobile game" to me right now, but will hold out judgement until it arrives. Hoping a deal is made to get the original on the NES app.

This is a great game. The deep level of customization is fantastic and the gameplay is among the best I've ever experienced with a baseball game.

The lack of MLB licenses are not a problem for me. it adds a more timeless arcade type feel to the game. Would totally recommend to any baseball fan.

@Yorumi What on earth is this delusional rubbish you just typed? You did nothing but insult me in your previous post, then whinge and moan as a victim of libel and bad behavior?

It is not even worth further comment. Everyone can clearly see the forum and make up their own minds.

@Yorumi I am going with the numbers that are known and have been reported thus far (that's called using the evidence at hand to form an opinion). So let me guess, you (and only you) DO know the exact widespread number, and it falls somewhere in the 100% range of all systems, right?

I wasn't shifting an argument, instead commenting on your bloodlust for outrage and accusations of corporate-worship for anyone who dared suggest the issue is not of the highest maximum importance.

I dont claim people should not post their opinions on the issue, but I am within my right to say the reactions to this, and the need for outrage, does fall outside of my perception of what productive and useful discourse entails. It's not virtue-signaling to call that out. If you want to die on a hill and make yourself out to be a champion of civil and consumer-rights for rousing people to be mad at a corporation; that is your business.

In my posts, I have clearly said Nintendo should fix the issue. Youre simply upset that I call out the inane and ridiculous reactions. It is possible in this world to post comments on a Nintendo site (and other forums) and not have it continuously devolve into the hyperbolic outrage nonsense. But maybe that is a standard too far for some...

@Yorumi So it's outrage you want, just directed at Nintendo?

I think the point is that outrage, given the known scale and proportion, probably shouldnt be directed either way.

If someone came to me and said "we know 1% of (insert product) is defective" should I fly off the handle into a hulk rage? If that is your threshold for outrage, you must be an inconsolably angry person.

Nintendo should look into this and make repairs. Maybe save the outrage for children in cages, or climate change. When it comes to outrage, I have little use for it when it comes to the toy department of life.

The fervor used (among countless other daily outrages) for this issue just goes to show how low internet and social media culture has dragged down our ability to keep perspective and communicate as a civilization.

Do the users that are experiencing joy-con drift deserve an answer or to have their faulty hardware assessed and fixed? Yes.

Does it mean that every single Switch console has joy con issues and every single one ever manufactured henceforth will and anyone who argues otherwise is a Nintendo-worshipping fanboy/girl/shill that hates all consumer protections? No.

35 million consoles have been sold. Even at 350,000 defective joycons, that is 1% of total consoles. Even 1 million defective consoles is 2.8% of the total sold.

Like it or not, that is an acceptable range of defective products across a number of industries.

Does that mean Nintendo should not address the issue or work to get repairs or replacements? No. Good customer service is still important for defective products. If it is actually defective and not the result of poor handling...which, (few seem to want to admit) is real too. We've all had friends come over and pound controllers throughout our life and have watched on in horror at the ferocity with which they handle things. A subset (not ALL) of the issues may be caused by this as well.

It's an issue. But maybe not the epidemic or panic some are making it out to be.

Personally, I've had my Switch from launch and have not experienced any issues. I had to re-calibrate the left con once, and it solved it immediately.

I cant wait to resubscribe, if only to read more outrage over this...humanity’s biggest abomination.

I wonder how many in this thread, after ordering a meal or pizza for $20 and are unsatisfied, whinge and moan and fly off the handle every single time they hear about the offending restaurant, because that’s what happens in this site every time the online service is written about or reported on (get ready for more when the nes titles for this month are announced).

In the last year, nothing new (apart from getting a free game) has changed with the online service. But the same people here go off on the same tired regurgitations and points theyve cut and pasted a million times as if the service was announced for the very first time and their genius insights of “they should add snes,gamecube, n64 games” is a revelation worthy of a nobel prize. You mean all Nintendo needs to do is give you a ton of more free games, for no extra cost, and youll be satisfied? Gee, you dont say.

People are and should be able to voice their legit gripes. And they have. Over and over. And over. All while acting as if their refusal to purchase is akin to rallying the oppressed and poor of the world, or a trailblazing act of political protest.

We play games where a chubby italian plumber jumps on mushrooms with faces. Juuuuuuuust a reminder.

Remember the days when arcade ports to home consoles were normal and nobody expected the SNES or Genesis version of NBA Jam to look exactly like the arcade?

There was always a concession at the time that the graphics would be diminished, but that did not stop most players from enjoying the game. We were happy to be able to just play at home. It is the same thing here. We can play Witcher 3 at home, on the go, on a Nintendo device.

I can't wait for this release. Nothing but a win.

@Yorumi Fair point - I won't sit here and say Nintendo is always consistent, yet I still think the cloud save/backup need is over exaggerated. Will it annoy a small fraction of people? Perhaps, but overall, most users will not be impacted.

My point was more about "um, let's relax here, people." The world is on fire. Video games are fun. Not really a huge problem.

I understand the desire for cloud saves, but like usual, perspective is lost faster than flatulence to the wind.

Did New Leaf, or the Gamecube version have cloud saves? What percentage of you lost your data in those games? Reading this, it seems like 90% of all gamers have.

And in the event you do lose it...you start again. You dont have to trek up Mount Everest or dig your way out of a Syrian prison...just press "new game" and return to a world where if this is your biggest problem, you should feel lucky.

Consumers made a deal with the devil and now it is coming home to roost.

It started with the music industry, then film, then cable, and coming soon...video games. Shunning ownership for convenience, convenience, convenience, consumers gave these companies a mandate to start these models that only benefit them in the long run.

I hear it all of the time. "Why doesn't my town have a good record shop, or cinema, or bookshop?" And then you ask how many of these things they purchase and the answer is usually none or few (or everything is bought via Amazon), as they favor Spotify, Netflix, etc. When the majority refuses to buy physical media and prefer streaming to their devices (also locking them into endless replacement and upgrades), can consumers really cry when companies stop putting resources towards those avenues?

This is on point for these capitalists that usually rear their heads into creative industries looking for a quick buck and portfolio boost, while being completely ignorant around the creative and development process. All they care about is "value," short-termism and projections. Vomit-inducing.

I didn't give a toss about resolution/FPS when I was playing NES, SNES, Gameboy, etc and still managed to have fun. This will be the same.

Now we just need a Mother 3 release, Waluigi in Smash, other consoles added to Nintendo Online, and then we can reduce 99% of all user comments across the web.

I am a long time fifa player and bought both for switch. Wont be purchasing this.

The series has been downhill in general ever since ultimate transaction..i mean team took over. Theyve ignored career mode and other features for years. God awful company.

Whenever you consider yourself a diehard fan/gamer/whatever, there is always someone out there like this, way beyond your limits, operating at the most extreme end. Amazing.

I would love Persona 5 on Switch (who wouldn't?) but there was never a hint or indication that it would be coming. Atlus is not accountable to every false rumor and innuendo.

With everything on the Switch docket for 2019 (I am grateful we are getting Dragon Quest XI - definitive, no less), there is no chance I'd have time to complete this 100+ hour epic anyways.

Awesome! Switch is becoming the go-to system for classic games.

I love that this game wont die!

Am I the only one who longs for the days before data and source-code mining, when surprises were a thing, and every minute detail and decision were not reported, belabored over, speculated upon, regurgitated by numerous "publications" and turned into insta-emotion "reax" takes?

Thank you for the NES version!

Of course this article has more comments than the positive one that basically says this game contains more than we dreamed of. Classic Nintendo Life commenters.

Were people expecting Citizen Kane?

It's a blue, wise-cracking furball that wears sneakers and runs fast. The concept seems pretty in line with the quality delivered...

Finally! The game is up and running for me...

happy cupheading everyone...

Just waiting for the eshop to "unlock" my pre-load (I think 2nd/3rd party titles unlock around noon EST?).

I will probably also double-dip for the physical once it is released. Even if I am awful at this game, it will be a true pleasure for the eyes and ears.

Further proof that more powerful system "specs" doesn't mean everything.