After watching the reveal of Alienware's Concept UFO gadget at CES a couple of weeks back, we couldn't shake the feeling that we'd seen the concept somewhere before. Obviously, it's only natural that the best aspects of any tech will eventually get incorporated into rival companies' products, but watching the Windows 10 device presented as if it were 2015 and the very idea was totally brand new felt a little laughable. How did they keep a straight face while presenting? With the tablet's detachable controllers, kickstand and everything else about it, calling it 'innovative' felt remarkable cheeky.
Still, it seems that the machine itself has won over the people who have played it, with Trusted Reviews giving it one if their Best In Show awards. Alienware has since taken to Twitter quoting the website:
While the quote itself feels odd to anyone who's been enjoying the deluge of software hitting Switch every week, the context of the article itself makes the "limited number of games" comment make more sense. The writer is speaking in relation to the tens of thousands of PC games available across dozens of portals. In comparison, Switch's library of 3000-ish games obviously can't compete. Still, if there's one thing area where we'd say Switch definitively isn't lacking, it's the number of games to its name.
Alienware hasn't announced a price for its device yet, although with an 8-inch 1080p screen and a 10th generation Intel Core running things, it'll certainly cost more than Switch, assuming it makes it out of the prototype phase. It's a smart little (or not so little) piece of kit, certainly - especially if you've got a big old Steam library - and it'll be interesting to see how it fares against Nintendo's take on full-fledged gaming on-the-go if it does ever make it to market.
How does the Concept UFO strike you? Innovative and the inevitable next step in portable gaming or cheeky co-opting of Switch's design? How much would you be willing to pay to play your PC library on-the-go? Feel free to discuss below.
[source twitter.com, via trustedreviews.com]
Comments (137)
The price isn't "cool"? A switch lite is £175 right now, what's this UFO thing going to cost? £600? £800?
And since when is 10,000+ pieces of shovelware to wade through ever a good thing?
"Trusted Reviews" my arse
I look forward to mario and zelda getting released on this console which has so many more games available for it!!
@Ooccoo_Jr I'm heard rumors that it's easily over $1,000
We'll see the cost but I love the concept. I have lots of PC games I'd love to play on the go and I'll likely pick up a Switch Pro if that comes too.
That looks like it would be weird to hold, but I think I remember saying that about the Switch also when I first saw it.
This is sooooo a Switch.
I'd be somewhat interested in something like this for the games I want to play that never make it to Switch (as I'm almost 100% handheld at this point) but probably not interested enough to pay the likely high price or go through the hassle of carrying around two rather large systems.
If battery life is good and it runs PC games well, I'm down. But also goes to the price point. Not sure what that is, but if it's high enough, the question becomes getting this vs getting a desktop.
Like the switch being someone's primary console, it depends on the use case of the person. I'll definitely keep an eye out though as if they hit sweet spots price/power/battery, this could be awesome and honestly, may help drive additional power to switch (though may be not).
Even if this is more powerful than the Switch, I doubt the games that it shares with Switch (Witcher 3, MK 11, etc) will be able to run as well as the Switch version, as those have porting studios that optimize the game to run as well as they do.
This won't
I'd buy this so I could at long last emulate all the legacy Nintendo games on a nintendo-like handheld. Sort it out Nintendo, don't you want our money?
They don't like the price of Switch or its limited amount of games, yet this will probably cost 5 times as much and most of the games they're referring to won't even have controller support anyway. Also guess what this won't have? Nintendo games, the Switch's biggest selling point anyway
Wow...it looks like a straight copycat down to the position of the controller buttons. The Twitter post itself is also...fairly off-putting. The price of the switch is high in comparison to what? I highly doubt they are shooting to low ball this for anything under $500.
I mean it’s cool and all. Basically it’s just a handheld pc. I think something going for the Switch is the simplicity of it all though. The games are optimized for Switch, made specifically for Switch controls, and come in cool little carts and boxes.
Gaming on a PC is great and all but it’s a device designed for other processes besides just games.
I mean part of the reason consoles are still selling is their simplicity and ease of access with playing games.
Maybe whomever wrote that tweet should lay off the PCP
Lets see
Original made by big company
Bootleg made by stranger
300 bucks
Way way more than 300
Literally hundreds upon hundreds of amazing games, and countless amazing exclusives
Amazing rope hero
But guys, it has a d-pad.
@Kalmaro
From what I've read, Mortal Kombat 11 doesnt run much better (if any better at all) on this UFO device than on the Switch.
A reminder that it's been reported this thing may only get around two hours of battery life in its current form. And that's only if Nintendo doesn't take them to court the moment they actually try to bring this walking patent infringement to the market.
I didn't find the Switch expensive, but I do find a Playstation 4 Pro expensive.
If this thing is more expensive than a Playstation 4 Pro, I'll think it is expensive. It also looks really... Awful.
Like really. The design SUCKS. It's also very... edgy? Which seems really stupid. It doesn't look comfortable to hold at all.
Oh well. Nothing lost for me. Got my laptop and my Switch. I'm fully portable.
@PeterAndCompany I don't see why Nintendo gets to monopolize the switch hybrid design. Did Atari or whoever started the console war get to have the monopoly on console designs. Or what if we lived in a world where whomever designed the first tv were the only ones who were allowed to make tv's. How about smartphones. Anyone want to go back to blackberry. That's not beneficial to consumers. I don't like EA having a monopoly on sports and I wouldn't want Nintendo to have a monopoly on hybrid designs.
@Blizzia in Canada you could buy a ps4 pro or xbox one x cheaper on sale than a switch.
I’ll buy it for $3.50
I seriously doubt this has problems running games but it’s gonna come at a premium and it won’t be as mainstream as the switch but people saying it’s gonna struggle to run certain games are kidding themselves
But can it hookup to your TV? Hmmm??? 🤨
If the price is right, I would probably get it, because of pc games I have.
emulating Nintendo games on this thing might be cool.
"The Nintendo Switch is cool, but the price and limited number of games on it isn’t
WHAT? Are they implying the UFO will be much cheaper? How cheap are we talking about here, 150$?
i'll be less generous
it's a complete and utter rip off
An impressive rip off, but a rip off all the same .
@KitsuneNight I don't care if it's a rip off. Does it work better. That's what matters. Ford made the car but that's a piece of junk in comparison to Toyota or Honda. I'm happy Nintendo invented the idea but I am equally happy for someone to perfect the idea.
The price comment almost makes me think that this is a fake review...the price of the UFO has not been released yet and will likely cost more than the switch and switch lite combined based on the specs. Furthermore, exclusives are what matter, which is something the UFO does not have...Every game on the UFO can be played on a Xbox, ps4, or PC.
@westman98 Why am I not surprised?
Tweeted article: "by using customised Windows software it can play pretty much any PC game"
Again, as a handheld PC and laptop user for the past 18 months, I'm inclined to respond: https://youtu.be/vXTrx0sRgWo
And I'm not talking about specs here either.
Switch has enough games to last an interested owner a couple lifetimes, but like I've also said before, not every game on PC is something you can expect publishers to re-release for the current gen or even dust off for a console debut in general. Getting stuff from original Doom trilogy to Neverwinter Nights is already insane luck inadvisable to take for granted. Things like the subject here will be worthwhile for any number of Windows-locked backlogs and franchise binges they can make more or less portable. I could be in the market for it myself, but as with GPD Win 2, I doubt I could afford it anytime soon.😏
Here's what makes this DOA for me; the douche hammers at Alienware. They're digusting. They steal... outright steal an entire concept and design from top to bottom, even the key features and functionality. Then try to pass it off as innovative and their own. Then outright bash the original - even though it really isn't direct competition (pc gamers vs console) - and say some pretty stupid and nasty things (they've even commented how the Switch's HD rumble is weak crap compared to what they're offering)... all the while never once crediting the design prowess of the company that originated the concept. They then get a few media outlets either on the payroll, or somehow compromised to bash the original system as well and sing their praises (I forget the name, but one review site was even more ridiculous). That all makes them deluxe ishburgers. Just arrogant scum. I hope Nintendo sues them out of existance.
How can I "trust" a review that complains about one product's price on order to promote a rival one that doesn't even have a confirmed price yet? That is pretty much the exact opposite of trustworthy to me.
Alienware's Impressive Switch-Like Concept UFO Wins Best-In-Show Award
So PLAGIARIZING is a winning concept that gotta be a APRIL FOOL'S joke. There is no Best-in-Show or concept it plan trying to ride NIN Switch coat tails. That goes to NIN Switch-but we all know the Article was Biased against the Switch. There is nothing Innovative from Dell anymore.
If a main line PC maker releases a PC handheld I can
1. Play my Steam Library on the GO (what they trying to sell me again on Switch for $60-$29 a game)
2. Use Cloud Save to continue my game at MAX setting when I come home (No more blurry @25fps gimped home play)
I would pay a lot more than what I paid for the Switch easy. Just the money people save from buying overpriced old ports on Switch would pay the difference.
This thing is going to be several orders of magnitude more expensive than Switch, so tweeting the quote mentioning that system's price is a bit odd.
Here's why the Concept will die a thousands code cuts.
1. No Physical carts to plug in
2. Lack of any micoSD card support
3. What storage RAM and Internal Storage does it have?
4. Cloud streaming is only good as your ISP subscription and if they Throttle forget Streaming game.
5. Unaffordable to masses
6. Bulk size guarantees "oops" "smash/crash" Voids Warranty remember your EULA
7. Games have to be re-written to use the controllers for PC and PC portable-you think Developers on small margins going to do that.
Concepts should at least have this in concept as well.
So how do they get around games not made for controllers?
Sure they can say there's 1000 beeelion PC games and they'd be correct but only 1000 of those games can use a controller so what; you carry a bluetooth kb and mouse everywhere? Doesn't sound so cool imo.
@sixrings There's a pretty significant difference between designing a piece of hardware in the same category as another, and blatantly stealing design, form and function from an existing industry leader. This isn't a case of them just having a similar idea; Alienware has made several statements SPECIFICALLY mocking the Nintendo Switch and directly comparing it to their "superior" version, piece by identical piece, while also somehow having the balls to claim their design is "unique and innovative." They're basically taking Nintendo's blueprints, crossing out their name and adding their own to claim credit for its design.
You can't sit there and say theft of intellectual property is just good competition. Alienware will (and should) be sued over this.
@PeterAndCompany when I see a Samsung, LG, Sony tv. I wouldn't be able to tell the difference without the logo. The all touch screen design of the iPhone has been copied and pasted thousands of times between several companies. I don't see the difference. It's a blatant rip off but I don't see the problem with that.
It's really cool that another company is making another Switch/hybrid style device like this, but yeah, price is a bit concern.
Pretty crazy that trusted reviews made a jab at the Switch's price. I'd be surprised to see this sell at $300 let alone be cheaper.
Plays CoD in 4k for 15mins portable and only cost $1k...lol
This doesn’t look aesthetically pleasing
Wow we do have moles haters here. Just trying to justify every other outside besides what obvious CopyRight Violations. If you don't think so look at the design and controllers release buttons and setup that is all a Lawyer needs to drool over. I doubt NIN has not done something behind the scenes alerting Dell your in Violation of Patent Infringement.
@Yorumi their need to be part of the smallest club and still be recognized as kings is entertaining, is it not?
Why the hate towards this device? Like its going to hurt the Switch ... it is not. It is just cool and experimental.
People are hating it just because they can't afford it
@KitsuneNight : I agree...but I think they intentionally made this concept version a Switch-clone. Why? They wanted to let the world know they've got a portable coming but do not want to reveal ANY actual innovations of their own yet (maybe IP protection is pending).
Clearly, this concept design is a Switch rip-off that Alienware could not possibly believe Big N would allow to reach the market.
Not going to pretend otherwise, I want this.
With two kids, a wife, a job and a house taking up most of my time, portable gaming is where it’s at.
And considering the monumental size of my Steam catalogue, this would be a very welcome gizmo indeed.
Don’t see it replacing my Switch, rather replacing my PC, frankly.
This is going to upset the Nintendo defence force.
Always been a nintendo fan but I gotta admit I want this more than a switch since it can have higher power cpu and there would be no need to hack games for emulation.. just download them. Tho I think the pizza hut screen shape is a bit distracting.. it gives a illusion that the screen is falling back
Isn't steam always online? If it is portable and has Steam launcher, I'm definitely up for this. Would love to play Dawn of War 1 and 2 on the go, despite being an hour a battle sometimes haha
This thing will literally melt in your hands trying to play a real PC game in the 2 hours the battery lasts. Plus for Steam, streaming etc you'd need internet at all times...again running into issues Stadia is facing.
it's one thing to make a proof-of-concept, and another to enter a handheld market against Nintendo and compete, let alone best them.
@sixrings Well I'm not from Canada. I'm from Europe. And in Europe, Switch is cheaper than ps4 pro.
I hope Nintendo takes a serious look at this device for two things:
1) obviously the analog sticks. The Joycons' joysticks are the single biggest flaw in an otherwise remarkable little piece of hardware. The joysticks are both too shallow and too loose, not to mention its undeniable fragility. Furthermore, the slightly convex shape of the joystick makes it just a little difficult to grip for some people's thumbs. The Concept UFO's analog sticks immediately look like they will have more depth and will be more enjoyable to use.
2) the Concept UFO's different take on attaching the Not-Joycons. The Switch's sliding mechanism for attaching/detaching the Joycons feels just awkward enough to be slightly cumbersome, despite the enjoyable versatility they bring. The detach button on the back is just a little small, and the shoulder buttons are positioned just so on the top that makes pushing them into the charging grip a little awkward, and etc.
Before Nintendo moves on to the next generation, or even before a Super/Pro Switch, I would like to see them roll out a redesigned base Switch model, like the PS4 Slim, the DS Lite, etc:
1) redesigned Joycon 2.0 with better joysticks, more reliable, with a snappier attaching mechanism
2) a much lighter central Switch tablet, with reduced bezels for a larger screen
3) a redesigned UI with themes, folders, etc.
I think they deserve it and it is an awesome device that was inspired by the Switch (no matter how many times they say they are unaware of the Switch, we know this is a lie lol).
Issue will be cost. I hope they take this from concept and actually release the device, not saying I would buy it right away but maybe down the road. Just would be hard to justify spending $2k easy on this when the Switch is $300.
This is just ridiculous, lol
They even know it's a Switch ripoff and are trying to sell it as such. (I know it's just a concept but still)
Nobody is saying or has said that no one else should make a switch type device. The amount of folks saying that on here should step back before staying things that aren’t said.
What is being said is that the concept and comments they have made are a touch cheeky!
Nothing wrong with that.
The fact the comments bemoan the price and lack of games is just funny. All Alien are doing is trying to get knee jerk responses.
The concept is great and as long as video games, technology has existed, companies have copied each other’s tech. Game boy came out so Sega brought out Game Gear. Mega Drives and SNES copied each other.
It’s what happens with technology and always has.
The price of Alienwares concept if it ever came to friction would be over 1k so it’s hardly going to have mass appeal!!
"TrustedReviews" LMAO riiiiiight
One thing I know about this Alienware device is that if it costs less than a grand there is no way it is going to be worth it. When you are working with Windows and PC hardware you need some serious specs to get the job done when it comes to PC gaming, it's not like the Switch where they can get by with far more humble hardware due to all the developers focusing on optimizing to those specific specs. When it comes to PC gaming most of the latest games are designed to take advantage of serious CPU's, graphics cards, and lots of memory. If they go in the mobile hardware route there is no way they are going to get good performance out of anything really sophisticated.
I imagine this will just be some overpriced tablet alternative for a very niche group of PC gaming enthusiasts with specific needs. I can't imagine anyone else spending a lot of money on something like this, especially when the battery life probably won't be that great while gaming anyways.
@jarvismp I believe when people gleefully refer to Nintendo's lawyers not letting this hit the sales floor that constitutes as people saying and believing that Nintendo should have a monopoly on hybrid designs.
Everybody's complaining about the price which nobody knows. I don't care what it costs.
It's obviously a Switch-like design, but it's also everything I wish for a Switch Pro. It's bigger, comes with a D-Pad, comes with a better stand, comes with a better grip for the cons (ergonomic) , is easier to connect to a TV....even 800$ would be fair. If you have to think about money you should not play videogames and especially not Switch at the time!
Where I have doubts: can it offer a games library like the Switch? There will never be a Zelda, Mario or any other exclusive on this device, so it's not very interesting to me. But I hope it will be sold like hotcakes. Maybe Nintendo will consider a new upgraded Switch model.
@Ooccoo_Jr Talking about all the PC games in general is just ridiculous considering the nature of PC gaming. Anyone who has had much experience trying to play old PC games can attest to the fact that a lot of them run very poorly on Windows 10 if they run at all. A ton of those old PC games don't work well with modern hardware and I have seen a ton of old PC games that won't work on anything newer than Windows XP. Then there is the fact that a massive chunk of PC games are designed to be played with a keyboard and mouse, many not even including controller support.
So yeah, you are going to need to do a ton of work and problem solving in order to play those old PC games on this.
@Yorumi I am currently gaming on a Falcon Northwest gaming laptop with the latest high-end PC gaming hardware. I have also been building PC's since I was 13 and I have been fixing computers for people for many years. I think I know what I am talking about when it comes to PC gaming.
@sixrings just for the sake of accuracy, Ford didn't make/invent the car. I get your point though that being first isn't necessarily best.
I do have quite a lot of Steam games in my library that I'd love to play while traveling, but unless the company has really changed a lot, being made by Dell is still a deal breaker for me. Between their lousy customer service and the tendency of their products to start malfunctioning within a couple of years, I find Dell to be a company to avoid no matter what brands they release their tech under. Besides, I don't appreciate them quoting a review to bash a product they clearly ripped off.
These days, all you have to do is make one small change and people claim something is innovative. I'm sure Apple has taken features from Android and other phone makers and claimed them to be new inventions before. And I'm singling out Apple because they make a big production of things with their big reveals. Certainly, things have gone the other way as well, though with less fanfare. In this case, the "innovation" is the Switch design applied to an x86 PC. As for patents and such, I would assume Dell would have taken a hard look at that, if this is ever to be a real product, to see if they could do the concept in a way that didn't infringe. I don't know the details of the patents. That's something for the lawyers to figure out. But they have to bring it to market for it to even matter. This thing winning a best-in-show award doesn't mean anything other than people like portable gaming devices. And as I said before, they could even sell it as a gaming tablet without the detachable controls and I think it would still go over well with many people. I have my doubts that they'd be able to get the right hardware configuration in this form factor at a price that makes sense.
I want that kind of device for my steam/gog/epic games, cheaper that a GPD win 2 (really too expensive)
To be honest there is no way this system will make it to market.
@SwitchForce wasn't the specsheet talking about 256GB SSD storage?
@LordVal it's gonna be well in the region of £1200 dude.
Who cares... this is going to sink as soon they release it, if they ever do.
@LordVal People aren't complaining about the price of this thing in a vacuum, they're complaining about its price because the tweet quotes a review appearing to praise its price in comparison to the Switch's, which is completely absurd.
Dude! This thing looks sick! Considering how much I love my Switch, this thing must be like nerd viagra!
More of what’s good is good. But I guess people also hated on PSP too
@Yorumi Yeah I am not trying to act like you need a top-end gaming PC, that is unnecessary unless you are trying to play some sophisticated physics engines and other high requirement games. It's just that I know how it goes when it comes to trying to play old PC games on modern hardware with Windows 10, and as someone with a PC that is way beyond what most people have I am aware of how ridiculous it can get when you are playing the latest games with settings that far exceed what a console could be capable of.
To me this handheld would only be worth it if the games are going to look exceedingly better than anything you could play on the Switch or any other tablet/phone and I am simply having a hard time seeing that happen unless they make this very expensive. There is also the problem with how the efficiency of mobile hardware dramatically drops as you chase high-end performance.
So yeah, I just have many doubts about how great this will be in other words, they have a lot to prove.
If Nintendo would allow NVIDIA's game streaming capabilities on the Switch, this thing would be pointless.
@Grez Not for anyone who wants to own a game or play it again in a few years. Streaming games are for people who want to rent a game, play for a short time and move on.
@PBandSmelly I would hardly call Alienware a stranger lol
I like what Alienware have done, bigger controls, bigger kick stand and easier way of connecting it to a monitor or tv. I think from the videos I’ve seen it can also dock into some kind of base.
With it being a portable pc it has access to all the usual store fronts and therefore some games that won’t come to the Nintendo Switch. It’ll be interesting if it makes it to market and to see how expensive it it is.
Have they mentioned the price ?
How could that device won an award without a price tag mentioned ?
What if we have to pay more than US$ 1,000 ??
Lot of nervous nerds in here. Switch pro is rumored to be $399. If this thing is close to it then let the chaos begin.
Price and limited number of games 🤔🤷🏻♂️🤯
They say the price isn’t cool but we don’t even know the price of this thing, so how is that even a point of comparison? But sure it would cost much, much more than a Switch.
That price snark is making them lose credibility. If they can get 6 hours of battery life out of that thing with ultra settings and keep it under five hundo I'll look again but that kind of arrogance sight unseen usually means its a dud.
Well, in fairness, the "price isn't cool" comment is obviously based on the fact that "Is Switch price ($299) less than UFO price (null)?" obviously returns false in SQL. On the other hand, so does the question "Is Switch price ($299) greater than UFO price (null)?"
So for those who don't know the rumors I hear say this is the same spec as a gpd win 2.
@Dm9982 definitely worth thee fiddy
The price? Let me know when you can beat it.
Deluge of switch games? I take it you're counting the mountain of crap indie games filling the store? Love my switch but take away the first party games and mine would be a doorstop
@Yorumi that's one of my points. And I am totally happy for gamers who just wanted something like this. It's a very special divice for a very special gamers community and for them it must be heaven.
@kobashi100 sounds like a fair price for what you can get.
@Fath ok, I understand. And yes, that's absolutely the case.
To many of games are not controller compatible. This really will not have as many games as people think. On top of that it is much bigger than the switch making it more like a huge tablet. I don't see it taking off all that well. The price as it is Alienware will be the big thing that will push people awaym
@StevenG no, you can stream games you own from your PC to the Switch
@FlyingShoeMan It all depends on what you like to do and lifestyle with something like this. It is a niche product but it is really cool for what it is.
3000ish games on steam? I have close to 600 and I don't even have a fraction of that library.
What a load of crap! I will never buy another Dell! Nothing but bloatware, obsolete apps and spyware! Overpriced and underpowered compared to other brands!
It’s very neat and might be a good way to play PC games for people like me that just don’t like using PCs.
But I am now very sceptical of ‘Trusted Reviews’, acting like the price of this compared to the Switch is a selling point when it’s not been announced?
@sixrings console war was Sega and Nintendo. Atari was part of the video game crash.
In regards to the rest of your statement. Nintendo owns a few patents one of which being their invention of the D-pad no one is allowed to use this patent to this day. You might be asking “but every controller has a D-pad. And you’re right Sony and Xbox have a D-pad however both work mechanically differently and are not the same.
Nintendo literally owns the switch design. Through patents so if dell infringes on these they are allowed to be sued. With that said people abuse patent laws all the time against Nintendo.
Just look at the recent lawsuit some phone controller company filed against Nintendo for the joycons even though they are completely different.
The company even tried to go as far as attempting to bar Nintendo from selling the switch in the USA period. Luckily it didn’t go anywhere.
But it’s not always the case the Ilife sued them for the Wii mote design claiming they infringed on there gyroscope and won.
3DS patent dispute a Company claimed they stole their glasses free 3D display. Point being these things happen all the time. And it wouldn’t surprise me if Nintendo decided to sue and I think they should cause holy sh*t. It’s such a shameless ripoff the presentation was cringe as hell. Trying to pretend their idea was original.
Be prepared for patent lawsuits.
I really hope this does go to market, I have wanted to play my steam library on the go for many years now!
I cant always be at home to play my computer & when I’m working away for extended time periods, I miss those games & feel sad...
@Kalmaro Nooooo, that's obviously a GameCube ripoff.
@Toy_Link
If this has a 10th gen intel chip like the article says it does, running pc games shouldn't be a problem if this say ran a version of windows.
The games are already ‘optimised’ for intel pcs so i don't understand your point? Its a big what if at this point!
This looks like a portable steam machine console to me!
It will be expensive but good quality gaming pc’s ALWAYS are expensive.
To many what ifs right now, whats the operating system (how will games run without updates)
Mouse keyboard support or some innovation alongside it? This could be great or not quite there for pc games like RTS. I would LOVE TO PLAY STARCRAFT ON A ‘SWITCH CLONE’ LOL
I can only see no WiFi no Dell. First things this won't make it.
1. Need WiFi before you can game
2. All designs including the joy-cons attach and detach aka Switch that is "Patent Infringement"
3. You have storage but where will you get your games when no WiFi
4. Stream/GOG is only good as the WiFi or if you can get WiFi
5. Games need carts to make it worth getting
6. Price is going to $$$ through the roof anyone thinking it be less then Switch is Drinking Koolaid here
7. Dell Copying Switch isn't innovative or any New Concept.
8. SSD that makes it huge why don't they use NVMe/M2/M4 that tells me they have nothing innovative here. Those other storage are faster and better then SSD for tight spaces.
9. Look at that cooling that isn't going to go 4K by any stretch of imagination-it be 1080p only.
10. You can't force for example Nvidia 2080 Super into that and expect a Nuclear Meltdown let along no battery life.
11. Want 4K portable expect that only from a Dedicate/Optimized PC Gaming Desktop/Laptop for 4K 60fps only-even then those have issue doing 4K.
@YozenFroghurt Wind up Nintendo fans and then watch 'em go. It's always entertaining
This is the comment that only comes from small minds.
I hope it doesn’t stay a prototype so Nintendo feels pressured to up their game with hopefully the Switch 2.
I would love a mini PC that doubles as a gaming console/PC, so I would certainly give this a look.
I would like to play steam games on switch-like handheld. The controls look a bit more sturdy than joycon. I could save on multiplatform releases by avoiding switch tax and know I'll still be able to play games on my next gen pc 10 years later. Also Nintendo won't let me buy gamecube games to play on a handheld in an official paid capacity...
This product made me search up attachable controllers for my surface tablet.
@Moistnado I was kinda interested in seeing what was out there, this was the closest thing I could find:
http://alexfungshowreel.blogspot.com/2016/12/retrofitting-gaming-controller-from.html
You would think there would be some attachable controllers out there for the Surface but apparently there isn't.
I'm willing to pay up to a thousand bucks to have an alienware device of my own.
it's like their trying to make it the apple to switch's android, but not realizing how it's going to fail horribly.
@cleveland124 I am of a similar opinion, I have 15 years of steam games which I would love to play on the go so would love this. But Nintendo has always done their own thing and I have a switch and would definitely get a switch pro
@JayJ I saw an ipega thing, but it has been extended by a modder:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Surface/comments/90012o/the_future_of_gaming_maybe_not_but_definitely_the/
@Ooccoo_Jr people who say steam has shovelware arent wrong. However I would say that by the time the switch is at the end of it lifecycle it's have a higher shovelware ratio compared to steam at the rate it's at.
@PBandSmelly alienware is a stranger to who?
@Ooccoo_Jr I think they are referring to the price of games and closed nature of consoles.
@1UP_MARIO Yes indeed. They seem so very very angry. Not sure why. I just had a go on my Switch, and it seems to be just as enjoyable as it was before I heard about this thing.
1 I LOVE this Alienware UFO. Very much so.
2 The tweet was nevertheless bogus. Switch will have a significant price advantage, and the library is extensive. Not as much as STEAM, but some of that will be limited by the power of the device (no AC Odyssey on handheld, for example).
3 If UFO has gyro, I’m in.
@SwitchForce
You have got to stop with the misinformation.
1 You DO NOT NEED WIFI TO PLAY STEAM GAMES.. I play mine offline all the time on my PORTABLE GPD Win 2.
2 You’re not a lawyer, so no, it’s not “patent infringement”. Nintendo doesn’t hold a monopoly over controllers that disconnect.
3 Like all PC games, you download. If you’re still living in the Stone Age and cant download Steam games then this isn’t for you. Thankfully the vast majority of the human race does not have that problem.
4 WRONG. Again, you do not need wifi to play Steam or GOG
5 Objectively absurd. You don’t need cartridges to make something worth getting. The entire PC gaming population has no problem with the current model.
6 Yes, price will be higher. We can at least agree on that
7 No, it’s not innovative. Yes, it is copying. It doesn’t make any less useful or cool though. We need this for the PC market.
8 Who said it’s not using NVMe? It almost certainly will be, just like GPD Win 2. But even if it’s not, normal SSD are still way smaller than you think. The only reason they are as big as they are is because they put them in 2.5 inch cases to fit in mechanical HDD bays. If you pry open the case you’ll find they are actually as small as NVMe. In fact that’s all NVMe is. It’s SSD without the bulky case or SATA speed limit.
9 Yes, it probably will be a 1080p machine. And that’s totally fine for portable gaming, maybe even overkill. Switch is only 720p and many games run 540p. The screen actually does up to 1200p though so this thing could run close to 1440p, if the game isn’t too demanding. It would probably kill your battery though, which is why 720p is the sweet spot. Thankfully you can make PC games run at whatever resolution want to regardless of the screen resolution
10 ?? Of COURSE you can’t fit a 2080 Super in there. That GPU is bigger than the entire system. It’s going to use integrated graphics just like every other portable PC handheld, just like GPD Win 2, and just like Switch.
11 Nobody’s looking for a 4K portable. Come on now. People just want to play their PC games portably. Doesn’t have to be 4K. In fact, 720p would do just fine. The 1200p capability here is drastic overkill for portable gaming.
Relax. This is an amazing device and if you truly care about games you wouldn’t get so defensive and worried like this thing is going to eat the Nintendo Switch’s lunch. Devices like this are and always will be niche. But they’re great for enthusiasts. I have no idea why you are so insecure about this
I love how 95% of all reports on the UFO call it switch like and compare it to it. Dude, ever heard of the Razer Edge Pro? A windows tablet with a nvidia GT640LE and a i7 3517U. 999USD, had a detachable controller, a extensive dock and a keyboard. Pluss hot-swapable batteries. Thing was mad.
The UFO is the second coming of that thing, but hey, "switch like" gets more clicks.
Likely this will sell for 1000usd. The i7 CPU alone are like 380-400USD for any system integrator, even dell. If they plan to go with a eGPU dock, it will cost 2000 or more.
@codyf I would say that by the time the switch is at the end of it lifecycle it's have a higher shovelware ratio
Here's only something a true Troll could love such comments but already failed before finishing the statements.
I like the tone of this article
"The Nintendo Switch is cool, but the price and limited number of games on it isn’t."
Uh... what? Switch's price is fantastic, and it's evident that this will cost considerably more. Beyond that, 'limited' might not be an appropriate word to use for the amount of games available on the system either. As it has a healthy offering of games for just about everyone.
This kind of PC-based device would be great with an Nvidia graphics card inside the handheld. GeForce Experience could be used to optimise the games when used as a handheld, then when connected with an eGPU dock with a more powerful Nvidia GPU, the optimisation would be turned off (or reduced) accordingly.
However, that sounds expensive for them to make and this thing will be expensive enough with Intel graphics alone.
Awful ripoff at best, horrible abomination at worst. Intel integrated graphics. LOL.
I know quite a bit about this unit but I can only give some details. The drive can be brd integrated quite easily and the new small footprint ssd can also be a possibility.
I can say that the battery life is terrible are this point. Roughly 1.5-2 hours depending on the game and lighting concept you choose. Also it gets really hot and the fan is really loud which contributes to the low battery life.
I do know there was a fanless model but it has heat soak issues and reduced graphics.
Additionally the removable controllers are not really just magnetic. They slide in and the magnets hold them in place.
I like the concept though.
@SwitchForce it was also four in the morning from having a hard time sleeping. Considering your started the name calling, you already lost the argument. Try again buddy.
@SwitchForce there should be a logical fallacy that has to do with breaking down someone's Grammer when they know they are losing an argument. A) some peoples first language here is t English, ya racist. B) ive only ever known people going down the "I'm going to attack their spelling and grammar" When they don't have anything relevant to the argument to provide. Sorry but who's the troll here?
@SwitchForce also just because I don't subscribe to the cult of Nintendo doesn't means I'm a troll? Get real! I love my switch,PC,PS4, and Xbox equally. Stop being a fanboi. Just because I bring something to a conversation that sheds light on healthy Nintendo switch competition means I'm a troll? Do you just bury your head in the sand when you see phone ports arrive on the eshop? They are prevalent in the eshop if you haven't noticed but that's not Nintendo's fault. Look at the ps2. It also had mounds of shovelware. You can at least filter out all the hentai and porn games on steam that contribute to that percent of shovelware. Those problems are on every digital store front with the Advent of indie games.
I love this because it further shows how innovative Nintendo is. Remember when the wii came out and people looked at it and thought it was low powered, the motion tech was not that great… Then it sold a billion units and PlayStation pulls out a motion thing and Xbox does too... Of course those both failed. Now dell wants to do this to copy their awesome switch. Just remember all the other portable systems that tried to take out the GameBoy, the game gears, the lynks, The PSP… At the end of the day Nintendo and their portable units cannot be defeated.
@Tsusasi you sound like a broke boy like the rest in this comment section who can’t afford quality machines. The Nintendo HD rumble is weak that’s a fact! The Nintendo gets hot and has a weak cooling system that’s a fact! The switch analog joy stick feel cheap ass heck that’s a fact! Nintendo switch stand is cheap and down right A crappy Design that’s a fact! Let’s deal with reality here. I own three switches and I tell you what! Alienware nailed this! Alienware right off the bat I noticed a better stand, controller looks much better then that cheap joycon that eventually start coming off without hitting the release button... and copying?! As if homeboy Nintendo doesn’t own a look. Literally there has been other system that have looked like a switch before switch came out. Alienware stated they had been working on this idea for a few years so You don’t know if this design has already been out for them.
@NickDaddyCool Nintendo isn’t innovative anymore. Putting out the same repetitive games that’s 20-40yrs old isn’t innovative. The switch putting out 500p-1080p with most games going from 20-60fps isn’t innovative. How about switch having an oled screen, putting out 1080p with games running 60-120fps docked at least because that’s really obtainable no Joke. I’ve been with Nintendo since 4yrs old and now I’m 29 yrs old. You wanna know what I’ve noticed with Nintendo?! They’re full of crap and bleed you for money. Answer me this, why is it that every time Nintendo drops a new console..... you have to buy new accessories/games/memory cards all over again?! While pc, Xbox, PlayStation have all been backwards compatible with most if not all accessories/games, controllers/memory cards or ssd for years! You know how much money I’ve spent with Nintendo over the generations buying new accessories, the same game to have on the new console, a memory card etc.That’s not innovative that’s greedy. I enjoy my Nintendo but get off that false idea of Nintendo being innovative. Innovation is the ufo a whole entire pc on the go! Man please that’s awesome, the Apple cell phone is innovation literally a mobile mini pc, phone, camera in your pocket. Not trying to be rude but trying to enlighten you. If you like Nintendo cool but don’t lie for them.
@JaxonH 100 brother! Literally spot on for guys like myself who can afford this device. I personally own three switches 4xbox one x, 2lg oled e8 TVs haha I make good money and I will spend it on good devices. The ufo seems amazing and I’m hoping they bring an egpu with our choice of rtx, gtx cards! And it would be sweet if this comes with an oled screen!
@Heavyarms55 you obviously couldn’t afford an Alienware.
If this comes out I’d be willing to pay 500-1400usd easily as long as it has an oled screen, a dock that has an external gpu of buyers choice rtx or gtx series card, runs games 60-120fps. Hell I honestly don’t play portable at all but I know most Nintendo switch owners play portable Only due to them probably having a crap tv which I can understand being only portable. I have an Lg e8 oled tv which looks amazing! Smash ultimate looks like a new game on that sucker! Being able to play Xbox games on this Alienware ufo would be nice especially with my elite series 2 controller, then I’d have steam games as well. Then other games like anthem, elder scrolls assassins creed, Witcher etc. switch owner ship in my experience is to much compromise on third party games and even on some first party games. All in all there’s a place for both devices! But a place for switch pro nah I’ll have to pass tired of the same games for the past 20-40yrs being respat out.
@Grez Why would anyone do that? Play them on the PC if the PC is turned on. If you are out of the house this is totally useless.
@Flashvinnig You must not understand innovation. Innovation doesn’t just mean having the latest specs. Yes all those other systems are trying to achieve the latest tech reaches for their graphics- and when all those other systems are focusing on that aspect- none of them are being innovative by doing so. Nintendo is being innovative, their Wii (which WAS backwards compatible with their gamecube) INTRODUCED motion tech, and with innovations like that, yes, allows/forces new controllers to be sold. The wiiU came out and was backwards compatible with the Wii. All of their gameboy upgrades were backwards compatible with at least the previous incarnation. The Switch is the first since gamecube that isn’t backwards compatible. The reason PS/Xbox/PC can continue to be backwards compatible for so many generations is because they are 100% not innovative in any way, just upgraded tech. Oh here comes the new Xbox, with better graphics and more memory-that’s all they’ll offer you-and so will the next one and so will the next one. Except for when they just blatantly rip off the latest Nintendo products.
@NickDaddyCool ahh did not know that wii was compatible! I bought the version that wasnt so my apologies but my statement is 50/50 correct haha. Wiiu that one i forgot that blanked on me. Motion controls weren't that amazing. Theres a reason why It isnt around. Not enough people wanted it. Gyroscope is cool though i’ll give them that but it isnt a make or break feature.
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