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Darksiders II Creative Director: "Don't Compare It to Zelda"

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THQ's original Darksiders on PS3 and Xbox 360 drew a lot of comparisons with Nintendo's The Legend of Zelda series, but creative director Joe Madureira wants the upcoming Wii U sequel to skip those analogies this time.

Joe Mad told Official Nintendo Magazine he only wants to compare Darksiders II to its predecessor:

I'll be curious to see who we're compared to this time, but the only game we want to be compared to is the original Darksiders. We want people to say it's like the first one but 10 times bigger and better.

Nintendo-only gamers missed the first one as it skipped Wii of course, so a few Zelda comparisons might slip through the cracks. Sorry, Joe.

[via officialnintendomagazine.co.uk, officialnintendomagazine.co.uk]

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Aviator

#1

Aviator said:

But wouldn't it be compared to Zelda if it was compared to the first Darksiders?

Also, excellent subtitle James, got a chuckle out of me.

Expa0

#4

Expa0 said:

Why do american developers keep copying japanese games? And also why copy from crappy series like zelda?

DamnataAnimus

#7

DamnataAnimus said:

I have finished Darksiders, and yes it is pretty much the Legend of Zelda. I wouldn't say its better, but some gamers might appreciate the mature themes as opposed to LoZ which was more tended to be somewhat more parent friendly. Legend of Zelda is by far the better game, but that could also be nostalgia talking.

Raptor78

#8

Raptor78 said:

I love Darksiders and never once when I have been playing it have I thought, hmmmmm this is a bit like Zelda. All I can think is that mabey the art style may make you think of Zelda but nah, a far a the game goes I dont think it feels like Zelda.

motang

#9

motang said:

I have the first game, just bought it last month. It's on a queue to be played which currently my queue is Skyward Sword, Batman Arkham City, and then Darksiders. :-)

Big_Gamer

#10

Big_Gamer said:

Yep, the first one made me think of it as the lovechild between Zelda and God of War

CanisWolfred

#11

CanisWolfred said:

@warioswoods Thought the same think. Skeletor!

Also, Devs, if you don't want it compared to Zelda, don't make the similarities so freakin' obvious this time.

@DamnataAnimus Nah, it's probably not nostalgia. Zelda's puzzles tend to be way more creative, and despite being less mature in its themes, Zelda's stories tend to have more impact. I'm hoping they're able to do both better in the next game. In fact, those were the biggest things I felt needed improvement.

grimbldoo

#13

grimbldoo said:

@expa0 You just offended a lot of people with that remark buddy.

Hopefully, even if it is similar to LOZ, they make it good.

CanisWolfred

#14

CanisWolfred said:

@grimbldoo While I agree he's trying to pick a fight, I don't see why people should be offended when he's making fun of a game. Of course, I'm a Sonic fan, so maybe I've just learned to disconnect myself from the inanimate objects I love...

Vincent294

#16

Vincent294 said:

@expa0 That was a bad idea.

  • 1- Zelda's amazing. You might not like it, and that's okay, but remember it's still a top-notch RPG.
  • 2- Darksiders is somewhat like Zelda, but from what I've heard, it does a good job at setting itself apart. It meshes good concepts together, though not all original, it's no copycat: it has its own feel.
    Oops. Run on sentance. I'll edit it: Now it's fixed.
rjejr

#17

rjejr said:

The first game was very much like Zelda in that you are one person (as opposed to a party) moving from place to place, with a fair amount of backtracking, gaining new weapons and abilities to visit new areas and solving puzzles along the way. So, in short, it's an action adventure game. It is much more similar to Twilight Princess in theme and presentation than the lullaby that is Skyward Sword. I really enjoyed TP but not SS and I think one of the reasons was playing Darksiders in between. SS just seemed so outdated. I've already told myself I won't play another Zelda game without voice acting.
On a related note - I'm in the middle of playing God of War 3 and this also feels like a Zelda game, much more so than the first 2 which were primarily action focused. I also just finished the 2 PSP games and they didn't even really feel like complete games, barely tech demos, though the second was much better than the first. Castlevania: Lords of Shadow is also the same game "genre" if anyone is interested. I played that a few months ago and really enjoyed it. Had I played GOW3 first I might have thought it TOO derivative though. They are almost identical games in every-single-way but GOW3 is just done so well I'm still able to enjoy it. Well except for chasing Hermes around.
I'm really looking forward to Darksiders 2. I'm assuming it won't be at all comparable to Skyward Sword yet it will still fall within the adventure game genre. Unless it just goes wacko violent like Devil May Cry and Bayonneta, which are of a similar genre but I consider them to be too action focused to be adventure games. It's a fine line, but it's a line.

CanisWolfred

#18

CanisWolfred said:

@VincentV

1) I think the word you're looking for is "well-constructed," so long as you're going with technical competence.
2) Zelda is not an RPG
3) It still felt a lot like Zelda to me, at least, just with simpler combat.

mushroomer

#19

mushroomer said:

Im sorry, i just watched the intro to the first Darksiders and I dont see how it is similar to Zelda in any way. How is this trailer in anyway similar to Zelda? Can someone answer me?

More like Transformers meets Walking Dead

bonesy91

#20

bonesy91 said:

Well the original could easily be compared to both "god of war" and "Zelda" in terms of gameplay. Normally wouldn't be a bad thing in my book, I love god of war and Zelda... but when I played Darksiders it was after I tried Kingdoms of Amalur and that also played like god of war... So hopefully this game tries to distinguish itself from where it drew from and make some original experiences.

I'm tired of playing the same game but with a different story lol.

kdognumba1

#22

kdognumba1 said:

I have yet to play the original Darksiders but I hope Darksiders 2 has enough originality to be its own thing.

kkslider5552000

#23

kkslider5552000 said:

I hope he's blatantly lying, because there are some fantastic blatantly Zelda-like games made by 3rd party developers (Megaman Legends, Beyond Good and Evil, Okami etc.) that are actually better than at least half of the Zelda titles.

MasterGraveheart

#24

MasterGraveheart said:

Y'know, some of us Nintendo-only players can only compare it to the first Darksiders if we actually play it. hint hint nudge nudge

AutumnShantel

#25

AutumnShantel said:

@ everyone replying to expa0: Do you expect to change his mind? Did this ruin your day? lol I love Zelda, but really, people. C'mon.

Gameday

#27

Gameday said:

it is what it is , i guess newer peeps to the series will just have to wait and see ;p

Raptor78

#28

Raptor78 said:

Even if your a Nintendo only owner you could always play it on OnLive or even if you dont want to spend anything you could always just play it on the 30 miniute trial.
OnLive plays on Android phones, google TV's and PCs/Netbooks etc. So there is plenty of opportunities to try the series and see what you think.
http://www.onlive.co.uk/ or http://www.onlive.com/

Chuie

#29

Chuie said:

i got it i found it to be nothing like zelde but very god of war ish

Supereor

#30

Supereor said:

@expa0

Yeah, and also why copy terrible games like Mario and Metroid?
I may not be a Nintendo guy anymore, neither may I be an adult, but I DID play the very first Zelda, and I want you to think about that comment you just made for a second. Games like ET are shipped away and buried underground, while the Zelda series has orchestration dedicated to it's 26-year existence. I want you to REALLY think about that.

warioswoods

#32

warioswoods said:

Ok, so I did play the 30-minute trial on OnLive, and it was considerably less interesting than even my low expectations. Sure, my entire play time was eaten up by what I assume is just an intro action sequence in this city, but it was truly god-awful: corny designs and story, awful god-of-war style brawling, and just an overwhelming boredom of repetition that made playing the entire 30 minutes a great chore.

Now, I'm sure it must have better things to offer after that point... but it's hard to trudge through what feels like a lengthy, B-level action / fantasy film in order to reach the parts that might be better. That was as much Darksiders as I'll ever be willing to play.

Raptor78

#33

Raptor78 said:

Wariowoods, glad you tried it out even if you didnt like it. What you say is pretty much true, but like the same way I sometimes enjoy watching the Evil Dead movies the cheesyness and mindless button bashing etc appeals to me when im in the right frame of mind for it, I cannot see how it can be compared to Zelda and anybody expecting it will be dissapointed. Im looking forward to the Darksiders sequel but just in the same way I might fancy going out for a KFC instead of 3 course meal. I havnt played Skyward sword yet but from my experiences of the other Zelda games Darksiders is nothing like the series.

JonWahlgrenAdmin

#34

JonWahlgren said:

@warioswoods What would your impressions of Skyward Sword or Twilight Princess be based on each of their first 30 minutes, assuming you had never played a Zelda before?

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