Topic: Why does everyone want Star fox, Metroid or F-Zero so badly?

Star Fox 64 is pretty great, so another one that expands on the formula would be welcome.

Metroid.... Metroid... Just play Metroid Prime and Metroid Fusion and you'll understand. (Maybe bad example, but that's what got me on the Metroid wagon!)

F-Zero is another racer on Nintendo consoles that goes for super speed and I'll give it a go. It looks pretty great.

Because not everyone likes Mario Kart. I have not enjoyed a new Mario Kart game since Double Dash on the Gamecube. F-Zero on the other hand, I love that series and I still think its one of the best racers out there, especially X and GX. Plus, Mario Kart and F-Zero are hardly comparable anyway. One is a Kart racer that puts emphasis on crazy(and often unfair items) and racing through Mario themed tracks, while the other is a racer about futuristic cars that go at insane speeds on crazy tracks.

About the only thing Mario Kart and F-Zero have in common is that they are racers.

I don't give two flips about Mario Kart 8. But if Nintendo announced a new F-Zero for the 3Ds or Wii U? I would be picking up that game.

But Sega made that. (Like they should have made the new Mario Kart).

Kart Racing is outdated but mixing it with Arcade Racing makes it good again.

Metroid cannot be 3rd behind Zelda and Mario or it would have at least once once performed well enough in terms of sales. (Or around a similar ballpark).

Because they're fun games that don't get annual releases.

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=Metroid+Prime

Other then the first Prime none had outstanding sales. The fact that Japan doesn't seem to care one bit about Metroid would make it seem Nintendo won't be quick to make or outsource the franchise as often as the others!

Nothing does from Nintendo (Other than Poke-Your-Mom) but that is second party.

They want it, because they won't buy it. Sold copies speak for themselves. It's like "no gamz for U, I h8 1t!1111oneone" and yet there are a lot of games only to not be bought by complainers.

That's how it works

I wanted to try out the demo of Star Fox 64 but there's none. Just shows that Nintendo might have forgotten about Star Fox after all.

But I believe that Star Fox 64 3D Should have sold over a million by now.

F-Zero - purely because it's an old franchise which missed Wii.

Star Fox - 64 was amazing, Adventures was a good game underrated for looking childish (I didn't like it then but years of bland games have made me come around to some of these old games) and Assault slipped under the radar so everyone feels like it's been 15 years since they played a proper new Star Fox game.

Metroid - The Prime series was universally loved but is lacking online. Nintendo haven't had an exclusive FPS in years despite creating and ruling the console shooter genre with Goldeneye and Perfect Dark.

Right? lol

I'd take a starfox game over a zelda game any day.

Simply put, the zelda series has been too try hard on their story line for me and they are becoming to repetitive for me, and have lost any sense of challenge.

Starfox is something unique, there really isn't another game much like it besides some star wars games. The story has always been good and they aren't afraid to change it up.

It would be cool to just have variety. And Nintendo has an amazing catalogue of IP's @ their disposal. They could do it. Kid Icarus Uprising freakin' over a million copies. That's really saying something for a franchise we haven't seen in like a decade. Really wish they would listen more to the people that want to give them money. They could even potential bring in new gamers from other consoles with those titles.

While not great compared to their biggest franchises, most of those that people have been asking for have all hit the 1mil mark or better. The ones that didn't were spin-offs or re-releases aside from cases like SF Command or Metroid Zero Mission. If they put the effort into it they can do to those games what they did to Fire Emblem and Kid Icarus. At worst they're at the border between niche and mainstream.

@Artwark
That could have something to do with SF64 being on the VC for 1/4 the price. Not having the same brand recognition as Zelda would explain why OOT 3D sold well and it didn't. That and being the first handheld Zelda, remake or not, though being one of the best games ever to many certainly doesn't hurt either.

Cause those games were awesome and a main problem Nintendo has is that's its slate has become super hemongeous with utbmistly being Mario and Zelda with other games sprinkled. After seeing how Awakening and Uprising did it would be nice to see Star Fox, F-Zero come back.

Fzero is different enough from Mario Kart to do well in its own right. Microsoft and Sony can have two racing games of different types co-exist.

Becuz these games be f***ing bada** son!!! 'Nough said.

The real question is why doesn't everyone want Starfox, Metroid, or F-Zero so badly

I kind of figured Wii wasn't going to get a a new Starfox or F-Zero, but Metroid Prime 3 was already known to be in the works for a while, before it came out, I think if they're going to make a new Starfox, it will be on Wii U. As for F-Zero, I think that has a chance on 3DS, but that's just my speculation.

Metroid is another story, because people are asking for it, but it didn't sell nearly as well as Nintendo hoped. I guess there are less than 2 million people on the internet that want Metroid, according to vgcharts(May 2014). Everyone was too busy playing Halo or Uncharted to care about a new Metroid, and that's the IP I've personally heard people ask for.

They're like, "Whatever happened to Metroid Prime?". I'm honestly thinking Starfox has more of a chance by now, because it has talking animals and you actually get to fly in outer space.

F-Zero is a cool kid mario kart with a fast pace and sense of maturity, offering a different feel for those who aren't into a family friendly racing game. Playing it even makes you feel cooler than exploding knees kid.
Metroid is one of the best franchises nintendo has to offer. And while the prime series wasn't my preferred metroid style, I can totally please understand why so many fans want another prime game.
Starfox same as metroid except it's been ignored a lot longed.

I think an additional reason people want this stuff because it adds variety to Nintendo's lineup. Without them, it feels like the Wii U doesn't have that much variety on offer (even if there's more than people realize), and Wii U should probably have a more well rounded stable of titles.

Here's a point of comparison for you. Pokemon and Fire Emblem are released every 1-3 years and have had many titles over the years. Since the first game, Mario Kart has hit every Nintendo system sans the early portables (which some would argue was made up for with two arcade releases). Zelda is a similar story and, even if some titles might be spin-offs, remakes, etc., has releases quite frequently.

Meanwhile, there are plenty of systems that have never had F-Zero titles, Star Fox titles, or even Metroid titles. F-Zero has seen five main series titles since 1990 and one of these was exclusive to Japan. The last release of any kind was a decade ago in 2004. Star Fox has had six games since 1993 (one of which includes a remake). Discounting that remake, the last new game was eight years ago in 2006. Metroid has done comparatively well with ten main series releases since 1986, but it is a franchise that has skipped out on some consoles and had long gaps with no releases (1994 to 2002 to name one). The last game was four years ago in 2010 - not bad at all, but certainly not the same frequency as the Nintendo mainstays.

The genres reflected in Star Fox, Metroid, and F-Zero are not common ones relative to Nintendo's catalog or have gameplay elements that fans consider to be unique (or at least provide variety to Nintendo's lineup). One could argue that there are many potential ideas that are not being utilized. Adding onto the (relatively) infrequent releases, characters from Metroid, Star Fox, and F-Zero are featured in the popular Super Smash Bros. series. This helps keep them fresh in the minds of fans, especially since these games tend to be played throughout an entire console generation due to high replay value.

Does it not make sense that there would be demand for niches that are not being satisfied? You could argue that three new games from the three franchises combined wouldn't sell half of what the upcoming Ruby and Sapphire remakes will (and you'd likely be right) but it's easy to see why online demand exists, I feel.