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21. Posted: Sun 29th Apr 2012 13:11 BST

Who said this would lead to Sony bashing? Because this seems to be made entirely of OP bashing.

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22. Posted: Sun 29th Apr 2012 13:29 BST

We all know the Nintendo 64 copied the Atari jagua- Hahahahahahaha
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23. Posted: Sun 29th Apr 2012 13:39 BST

TwilightPoint forgot to mention the 3DOHOHOHOHO!

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24. Posted: Sun 29th Apr 2012 13:45 BST

Well, microsoft copied sony's eye toy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_Toy
and the eye toy was launched in 2003 so it's more likely that NINTENDO copied sony with the motion controls.

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25. Posted: Sun 29th Apr 2012 13:59 BST

This is not to bash Sony, but let's make a list of unoriginal stuff they did.

The Sony game is no more a copy of Smash Bros. than Killer Instinct was of Mortal Kombat, Earthbound of Dragon Quest, Balloon Fight of Joust — all Nintendo games. This is how genres come to exist — games are made with some similarities but distinct differences. In a fighting game particularly, it may look very similar as a system, but the difference comes through in the character move sets.

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26. Posted: Sun 29th Apr 2012 14:04 BST

Adam wrote:

This is not to bash Sony, but let's make a list of unoriginal stuff they did.

The Sony game is no more a copy of Smash Bros. than Killer Instinct was of Mortal Kombat, Earthbound of Dragon Quest, Balloon Fight of Joust — all Nintendo games. This is how genres come to exist — games are made with some similarities but distinct differences. In a fighting game particularly, it may look very similar as a system, but the difference comes through in the character move sets.

Oh, so it doesn't play differently, the characters are just different. I'm pretty sure that's not the case with other genres. I'm pretty sure the games played differently.

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27. Posted: Sun 29th Apr 2012 14:09 BST

SkywardLink98 wrote:

Well, microsoft copied sony's eye toy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_Toy
and the eye toy was launched in 2003 so it's more likely that NINTENDO copied sony with the motion controls.

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28. Posted: Sun 29th Apr 2012 14:11 BST

Conspiracy theory: Sony are Nintendo.

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29. Posted: Sun 29th Apr 2012 14:12 BST

I never understood why you guys always expect Sony to reinvent the wheel. Why not make a list of things Nintendo copied from Sony?

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30. Posted: Sun 29th Apr 2012 14:15 BST

A better question: why do people think Nintendo creates all this technology?

Nintendo does not have the R&D budgets to create technology from scratch. Nintendo's business model is to find interesting technologies and turn them into gaming technologies. They might be first in the gaming space for a lot of tech, but they almost never invent technology.

Sony, on the other hand, does invent technology. Perhaps not in the gaming space, but it is a genuine technology innovator, rather than a reworker.

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31. Posted: Sun 29th Apr 2012 14:18 BST

@Choco
You mean.... There's something out there besides games?!
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32. Posted: Sun 29th Apr 2012 14:19 BST

@ChocoGoldfish
@Turtlelink:
Off-topic much? People who want to talk about all Sony's wonderful unique creations can just make their own topic you know. I'm just saying.

Edited on Sun 29th April, 2012 @ 14:25 by Usagi-san

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33. Posted: Sun 29th Apr 2012 14:21 BST

Link_Belmont wrote:

SkywardLink98 wrote:

Well, microsoft copied sony's eye toy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_Toy
and the eye toy was launched in 2003 so it's more likely that NINTENDO copied sony with the motion controls.

Have you heard about the Power Glove?

Nintendo didn't make the Power Glove. It was a Mattel product.

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34. Posted: Sun 29th Apr 2012 14:25 BST

Haywired wrote:

Link_Belmont wrote:

SkywardLink98 wrote:

Well, microsoft copied sony's eye toy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_Toy
and the eye toy was launched in 2003 so it's more likely that NINTENDO copied sony with the motion controls.

Have you heard about the Power Glove?

Nintendo didn't make the Power Glove. It was a Mattel product.

What about the Light Gun or Super Scope?

Edited on Sun 29th April, 2012 @ 14:25 by TwilightPoint

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35. Posted: Sun 29th Apr 2012 14:26 BST

TwilightPoint wrote:

Haywired wrote:

Link_Belmont wrote:

SkywardLink98 wrote:

Well, microsoft copied sony's eye toy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_Toy
and the eye toy was launched in 2003 so it's more likely that NINTENDO copied sony with the motion controls.

Have you heard about the Power Glove?

Nintendo didn't make the Power Glove. It was a Mattel product.

What about the Light Gun or Super Scope?

surely those were in arcades before the NES?

Edited on Sun 29th April, 2012 @ 14:27 by Bankai

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36. Posted: Sun 29th Apr 2012 14:29 BST

I was actually just thinking that.
But I suppose gaming is like theatre.
Everything has been done before.

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37. Posted: Sun 29th Apr 2012 14:35 BST

TwilightPoint wrote:

I was actually just thinking that.
But I suppose gaming is like theatre.
Everything has been done before.

Exactly. That's what being 'innovative' is at best a marketing word and at worst an outright lie, and we should care more about quality than 'innovation.' Because no one, not Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft or Apple is innovative in the gaming space. Creative, yes. Good quality, absolutely. Innovative, no.

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38. Posted: Sun 29th Apr 2012 14:44 BST

I think a lot of fans get way too bogged down in who invented/first did what and who copied who, particularly when they seem to have completely selective memories about these things. For example, contrary to what some fans want to believe, Atari did actually exist, therefore Nintendo didn't invent every single aspect of video games. Plenty of video game companies did motion controls before the Wii (including Sony's EyeToy), yet apparently Nintendo introduced motion controls. I've even seen some fans claim that Wii Fit was the first ever exercise game! The Dreamcast controller had a screen on it, but no doubt any console that has a screen on the controller from now on will be copying Nintendo not SEGA, etc.

The current one is of Sony copying Smash Bros. but how come Smash Bros. isn't considered a copy of X-Men vs Street Fighter/Marvel vs Capcom (which came out before Smash Bros.) A fighting game in which characters from different franchises face off against each other. Among certain fans it seems that things don't exist until Nintendo does them. The word "innovation" has been latched onto and clinged to way too much by Nintendo fans in recent years.

Edited on Sun 29th April, 2012 @ 14:54 by Haywired

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39. Posted: Sun 29th Apr 2012 14:49 BST

Well, there have been many things Sony have stolen from Nintendo. I can't belive people actually deny this fact.

EDIT: Sorry, accidentally posted too early.

Now, I am not saying Nintendo invented all of these things I'm about to list...but it's damn coincidental that Sony (and Microsoft...and SEGA) decide to implement them after Nintendo made them successful.

Regarding Hardware...

Portable Gaming (Game & Watch)
D-Pad (Game & Watch)
First game to have story scenes (Sheriff)
Platform game (Donkey Kong)
Internet gaming and DLC (NES & SNES)
Battery Backup Saving (Legend of Zelda)
'Diamond' button layout and Shoulder Buttons (SNES)
'Kart' racing game (Super Mario Kart)
Implementation of an analogue stick on a joypad (N64)
Force-feedback (N64)
Reliable wireless technology (Wavebird)
Touchscreen gaming (DS)
Motion Control (Wii)
Glasses-free 3D (3DS)

In regards to Software...

Mario 64 revolutionised 3D gaming.
Pokemon - 'nuff said.
Animal Crossing was one of the first 'social' games; where relationships were paramount and time passed as in real life.
Nintendo's Art Style series pre-dated Apple's App Store in providing quirky and bite-sized games.
The Nintendo DS title, Dr. Kawashima's Brain Training, kick-stated a surge in the popularity of 'self improvement' titles, such as Wii Fit.
The Chibi Robo series promoted a green message of taking care of the planet.
The Legend of Zelda was one of the first 'open-ended' games; where urgency and high score chasing was replaced with exploration and adventure.
DS title Electroplankton was a unique music title that dynamically changed sounds depending on what the player touched
Rare Gamecube title Doshin the Giant allowed the player to be the benevolent god Doshin and help his civilisation, or play as the malevolent devil Jashin
The Nintendo 64 game Pokemon Snap was one of the few videogames that incorporated photography.
Nintendo's WarioWare arguably created an entirely new genre.

Now, I'm not a mindless Sony basher; I own all of the Playstation consoles (except Vita), and I have enjoyed them all immensely. But again, the Playstation brand has been heavily influenced by Nintendo (even Sony have admitted this); that's why it makes my blood boil whenever some Sony exec takes pot-shots at Nintendo regarding new systems and software. This may sound fanboyish, but when it comes to creativity, Sony (much less Microsoft) aren't in the Big N's league.

Again, I do still enjoy the Playstation brand; and competition can only be good for everybody.

Edited on Sun 29th April, 2012 @ 15:18 by Kage_88

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40. Posted: Sun 29th Apr 2012 15:02 BST

Haywired wrote:

I think a lot of fans get way too bogged down in who invented/first did what and who copied who, particularly when they seem to have completely selective memories about these things. For example, contrary to what some fans want to believe, Atari did actually exist, therefore Nintendo didn't invent every single aspect of video games. Plenty of video game companies did motion controls before the Wii (including Sony's EyeToy), yet apparently Nintendo introduced motion controls. I've even seen some fans claim that Wii Fit was the first ever exercise game! The Dreamcast controller had a screen on it, but no doubt any console that has a screen on the controller from now on will be copying Nintendo not SEGA, etc.

The current one is of Sony copying Smash Bros. but how come Smash Bros. isn't considered a copy of X-Men vs Street Fighter/Marvel vs Capcom (which came out before Smash Bros.) A fighting game in which characters from different franchises face off against each other. Among certain fans it seems that things don't exist until Nintendo does them. The word "innovation" has been latched onto and clinged to way too much by Nintendo fans in recent years.

My sentiments exactly. Especially since people are even going as far as saying the Vita is an outright copy of a Nintendo product, because...what exactly? It has a touch screen? That was invented years before Nintendo got ahold of it, and they weren't even the first to impliment it for gaming. But as you say, it's not really worth getting too invested in the word "innovation." What matters most is whether or not we enjoy the games and platforms they make.

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