@Dezzy70 it's a nice idea, but because so,so many people are still against the LBGTQ community these things still need to be said. When people stop being selfish and judgmental - which won't be anytime soon - then we can have what you described. Until then unfortunately, we have to keep pushing for it to become more normalised and accepted. Small steps like this from Nintendo help.
@Zuljaras exactly. It's not artificial scarcity: they make as many copies as are ordered in the pre-order window, and no more. Sounds pretty sensible to me: make as many as you've been paid for and no spare ones! Day 1 for me as well 🤪
@Troll_Decimator I didn't debate that you didn't like it, just that nobody liked it. Millions of kids grew up with these newer films and love them and will be looking forward to playing their favourites in Lego Star Wars.
@Silly_G well yes, but to me, the point of a physical cartridge is that you put it in your system, and can play the whole game with no bother. GTA trilogy on Switch won't actually contact the whole trilogy and is therefore pointless as an 'I must have the physical version' item. Especially as there won't be a manual or maps either!
@GamingFan4Lyf @XenoShaun some of these wads are years old, all released for free by their creators, for people to play on their paid for version of Doom. How is this any different to that? The creators get a boost on having their work more visible and more people playing. There's no way an extra free wad is going to push anyone to pay all of £3 for Doom if they haven't already. I think it's great what they are doing, finally letting console owners experience some of these map packs.
Can I also just point out the amazing work Panic Button have done on this: it's not just TAG1, but they've updated the main game and improved it quite a bit. Performance is better. Graphics are sharper. Just brilliant.
@fafonio exactly! It's not pay to win at all! You can pay if you want, but don't have to: and paying doesn't alter how good your kart/driver is in multiplayer anyway
Doom Eternal is an outstanding port. I’ve literally just completed it on ultra violence and will be starting a Nightmare run next. I have the game on pc and PS4 also and it has honestly lost bugger all in the translation to Switch in terms of gameplay and enjoyment:)
@King-X Well my personal advice is to play the game! I’ve thoroughly enjoyed 30 hours of it so far and only spent £5. The gacha system is entirely optional - I’m playing through with characters I’ve unlocked through regular gameplay. It’s a beautiful and funny game.
The data breach is problematic of course - I assume they’ve fixed it now?!
@Papichulo I didn’t say I was standing up to anything - that must have been someone else’s post. In fact reading your whole reply to me i think you got the wrong post - I didn’t mention animal crossing or Pokémon! Neither of which are crap btw.
Anyway I couldn’t care less if the guy sells it or not- my initial point was surprise that NL was highlighting it. I’d have commented if they were highlighting a ROM site in the same way. But, just because Nintendo didn’t do what you want them to doesn’t make it legal for someone else to do it and sell it. It’s a simple point - I’m not debating whether it is ‘right’ or not, just whether it is legal. And what exactly is ‘morality garbage’??? Is having morals ‘garbage’ now? And if you had actually ‘read’ my posts instead of spewing your own garbage (see what I did there) you’d have noted that I haven’t at any point said that the bloke shouldn’t be selling the booklet, or indeed that Nintendo shouldn’t have made one themselves - I was just questioning out of genuine interest, if this particular item was legal and if NL should therefore be linking it.
@Thirteen1355 well because the seller is selling something containing protected IP. It is all Nintendo designed characters using Nintendo made graphics sold for profit that isn’t going to Nintendo isn’t it? I can’t write a Star Wars novel for example and then sell it - it is illegal. Maybe this is legal but I highly doubt it. As I said, I’m sure Nintendo’s lawyers would argue it isn’t legal. There’s a simple reason all the Mario characters are copyrighted and this comes under that remit surely?
So on the other foot - what makes you think it IS legal, out of interest?
@Stocksy mature a bit? Child abuse? Rape??? Why on earth are you bringing all that into an otherwise civilised discussion about IP?? Did a bee end up in your cornflakes this morning??
There are always worse things going on somewhere than whatever is being discussed here on a video game website - that isn’t the issue. Nobody here is ‘morally crusading’ either from what I can see.
It is a valid point that the Etsy seller - undoubtedly like many others Etsy sellers - is profiting off Nintendo’s IP without their permission, and that it looks like NL is promoting the work for whatever reason.
I’m sure IP law will back me up here as would Nintendo’s lawyers.
That’s all. Nobody is claiming it is the end of the world, or that is a worse issue than coronavirus and all the other nightmares going on right now!!
@Papichulo Again, it’s not so much that it is available- my original point was that I was surprised NL was promoting it. And what exactly is wrong about standing up in a small way to someone making money off the back of someone else’s work?
@NPC411 I’ve not noticed the Etsy links b4 but I’ll be looking out for them from now: I was genuinely surprised to see it on NL as I generally feel this is a nicely run website. I agree that Nintendo should have done a manual - doesn’t make it right that someone else does it and charges £11 for it.
I’m really enjoying it tbh. Looks bloody great on my phone and perfect for lunch breaks. Spent hours on it so far without spending any money at all so the gacha/ftp mechanics don’t get in the way of progress as far as I can tell.
@BenAV exactly what I came here to say! Nobody is forcing anybody to buy it - vote with your money and the practice will stop. If enough people pay £45 it then it won’t. Simples.
Why did that commercial need a ‘special’ director? It wasn’t even a good advert. Honestly I wish companies would stop mindlessly throwing money at big names just for the sake of it.
@JSDude1 cheers: my point still stands though that a physical cartridge is now nigh on pointless when updates over the eshop add enhancements and functionality. You can buy this cartridge but it won’t have multiplayer for example..
@vio exactly. £60 for a plastic box and a cartridge that you still need the eshop for (for the updates) is just daft. I was really pleased when I went ‘physical’ with the Witcher, and with Doom but the updates render the initial cartridge purchases pointless.
@Nintendo_Thumb oh yes you are quite right - not blaming Nintendo. And I wouldn’t have a problem with burnout (to take a specific case) being £20 or so: I realise it costs money to adapt a title for Switch. But on no account does it take as much time and effort to port a game as it does to develop the game in the first place, which is why I have an issue with EA charging full price for a port of a 12 year old game. Same goes for Bioshock, x-com etc etc. To be clear the only issue I have is “don’t be daft I’m not paying that”
@Pod why? Why do you need motion controls before you spend a whole £1.20 on one of the most iconic games ever made? It didn’t have motion controls anyway....
@Stocksy the one thing all the ‘complaining’ posts seem to have in common is ‘this is all garbage I refuse to download it shocking disgraceful terrible game’ I’ve played it for half an hour a day since release, spent absolutely nothing on it, and thoroughly enjoyed it. And yes I have MK 8 on Switch. The in app purchases are an option. Nothing more. Don’t know why people are getting so bent out of shape about it...
Remember the days when you bought a video game and everything was in it from the start ......? Bloody amiibos, dlc, season pass etc (middle-aged grumble)
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Re: GAME's 'Home Arcade' Range Lets You Build The Arcade Of Your Dreams
@Tempestryke there's already an arcade1up Star Wars machine - I was just surprised Game aren't selling that one!
Re: GAME's 'Home Arcade' Range Lets You Build The Arcade Of Your Dreams
Where is the Star Wars one??????!!! Swines!!
Re: Talking Point: What's The Highlight Of Your Game Collection?
Doom, boxed and registered version from 1993
Re: Nintendo Formally Acknowledges Same-Sex Marriage, Despite Japanese Law
@Dezzy70 it's a nice idea, but because so,so many people are still against the LBGTQ community these things still need to be said. When people stop being selfish and judgmental - which won't be anytime soon - then we can have what you described.
Until then unfortunately, we have to keep pushing for it to become more normalised and accepted. Small steps like this from Nintendo help.
Re: Surprise! Doom Eternal Is Getting A Limited Run Physical Release On Switch
@Zuljaras exactly. It's not artificial scarcity: they make as many copies as are ordered in the pre-order window, and no more. Sounds pretty sensible to me: make as many as you've been paid for and no spare ones!
Day 1 for me as well 🤪
Re: Don't Worry, Genshin Impact Is "Still In Development" For Nintendo Switch
@Serpenterror is it? Have you played it?
Re: You'll Have To Pay To See Baby Yoda In LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga
@Troll_Decimator I didn't debate that you didn't like it, just that nobody liked it.
Millions of kids grew up with these newer films and love them and will be looking forward to playing their favourites in Lego Star Wars.
Re: You'll Have To Pay To See Baby Yoda In LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga
@Troll_Decimator yep nobody likes it. Episode ix only grossed a billion dollars. What a disaster.
Re: Rockstar Apologises For GTA Trilogy Issues, First Of Multiple Updates Due In 'Coming Days'
@Silly_G well yes, but to me, the point of a physical cartridge is that you put it in your system, and can play the whole game with no bother. GTA trilogy on Switch won't actually contact the whole trilogy and is therefore pointless as an 'I must have the physical version' item. Especially as there won't be a manual or maps either!
Re: Rockstar Apologises For GTA Trilogy Issues, First Of Multiple Updates Due In 'Coming Days'
@Silly_G exactly. And the physical releases require a download anyway rendering the whole 'physical' aspect of it completely redundant.
Re: Nintendo Download: 26th August (Europe)
Doom Eternal Ancient Gods Pt 2 is out....!
Re: Talking Point: Which Game Stage Have You Replayed More Than Any Other?
Doom.
E1M1 and 2 - played them so much I could probably build a 1:1 replica blindfolded.
Not sure that's a good thing tho 😂
Re: Another Free Add-On Is Now Available For Classic Doom On Switch
@GamingFan4Lyf @XenoShaun some of these wads are years old, all released for free by their creators, for people to play on their paid for version of Doom. How is this any different to that? The creators get a boost on having their work more visible and more people playing. There's no way an extra free wad is going to push anyone to pay all of £3 for Doom if they haven't already.
I think it's great what they are doing, finally letting console owners experience some of these map packs.
Re: Mini Review: DOOM Eternal: The Ancient Gods - Part One - Rip, Tear, Repeat
Can I also just point out the amazing work Panic Button have done on this: it's not just TAG1, but they've updated the main game and improved it quite a bit. Performance is better. Graphics are sharper. Just brilliant.
Re: Poll: What's The Best Dragon Quest Game?
@nessisonett yep definitely. Been waiting for a remake for years lol!
Re: The Atelier Mysterious Trilogy Deluxe Pack Launches Today, New Trailer
Had no idea what this was, but waifus with pistols? Looks great lol!
Re: Nintendo Teases Mario Kart Tour's Brand-New City Course
@fafonio exactly! It's not pay to win at all! You can pay if you want, but don't have to: and paying doesn't alter how good your kart/driver is in multiplayer anyway
Re: Random: Nintendo Had To "Politely Decline" The Chance To Work With Kanye West, Says Reggie
@readalie brilliant summary thank you
Re: Feature: Best Nintendo Switch Ports Of 2020
Doom Eternal is an outstanding port. I’ve literally just completed it on ultra violence and will be starting a Nightmare run next. I have the game on pc and PS4 also and it has honestly lost bugger all in the translation to Switch in terms of gameplay and enjoyment:)
Re: Video: 16 Brutal Minutes Of DOOM Eternal Switch Gameplay
@TheFullAndy If you thought the main campaign was a slog then avoid the DLC at all costs - it is much harder!
Re: Feature: DOOM Eternal Finally Gets A Switch Release Date - We Speak To Port Wizards Panic Button
@HotGoomba___Rebrand lol me too! I hope they've done something with it!!
Re: MiHoYo Accused Of 'Carelessly Putting Players At Risk' In Genshin Impact Data Breach
@King-X Well my personal advice is to play the game! I’ve thoroughly enjoyed 30 hours of it so far and only spent £5. The gacha system is entirely optional - I’m playing through with characters I’ve unlocked through regular gameplay.
It’s a beautiful and funny game.
The data breach is problematic of course - I assume they’ve fixed it now?!
Re: Random: Someone Made A Manual For Super Mario 3D All-Stars To "Complete The Physical Set"
@Thirteen1355 Fair enough - thanks for your reply!
Re: Random: Someone Made A Manual For Super Mario 3D All-Stars To "Complete The Physical Set"
@Papichulo I didn’t say I was standing up to anything - that must have been someone else’s post. In fact reading your whole reply to me i think you got the wrong post - I didn’t mention animal crossing or Pokémon! Neither of which are crap btw.
Anyway I couldn’t care less if the guy sells it or not- my initial point was surprise that NL was highlighting it. I’d have commented if they were highlighting a ROM site in the same way.
But, just because Nintendo didn’t do what you want them to doesn’t make it legal for someone else to do it and sell it. It’s a simple point - I’m not debating whether it is ‘right’ or not, just whether it is legal.
And what exactly is ‘morality garbage’???
Is having morals ‘garbage’ now?
And if you had actually ‘read’ my posts instead of spewing your own garbage (see what I did there) you’d have noted that I haven’t at any point said that the bloke shouldn’t be selling the booklet, or indeed that Nintendo shouldn’t have made one themselves - I was just questioning out of genuine interest, if this particular item was legal and if NL should therefore be linking it.
Re: Random: Someone Made A Manual For Super Mario 3D All-Stars To "Complete The Physical Set"
@Stocksy ok - that’s your POV : but my post didn’t ‘derail’ the thread: it was the first post on there...
Re: Random: Someone Made A Manual For Super Mario 3D All-Stars To "Complete The Physical Set"
@Thirteen1355 well because the seller is selling something containing protected IP. It is all Nintendo designed characters using Nintendo made graphics sold for profit that isn’t going to Nintendo isn’t it?
I can’t write a Star Wars novel for example and then sell it - it is illegal.
Maybe this is legal but I highly doubt it. As I said, I’m sure Nintendo’s lawyers would argue it isn’t legal. There’s a simple reason all the Mario characters are copyrighted and this comes under that remit surely?
So on the other foot - what makes you think it IS legal, out of interest?
Re: Random: Someone Made A Manual For Super Mario 3D All-Stars To "Complete The Physical Set"
@Stocksy mature a bit? Child abuse? Rape??? Why on earth are you bringing all that into an otherwise civilised discussion about IP?? Did a bee end up in your cornflakes this morning??
There are always worse things going on somewhere than whatever is being discussed here on a video game website - that isn’t the issue. Nobody here is ‘morally crusading’ either from what I can see.
It is a valid point that the Etsy seller - undoubtedly like many others Etsy sellers - is profiting off Nintendo’s IP without their permission, and that it looks like NL is promoting the work for whatever reason.
I’m sure IP law will back me up here as would Nintendo’s lawyers.
That’s all. Nobody is claiming it is the end of the world, or that is a worse issue than coronavirus and all the other nightmares going on right now!!
Re: Random: Someone Made A Manual For Super Mario 3D All-Stars To "Complete The Physical Set"
@Papichulo Again, it’s not so much that it is available- my original point was that I was surprised NL was promoting it. And what exactly is wrong about standing up in a small way to someone making money off the back of someone else’s work?
Re: Random: Someone Made A Manual For Super Mario 3D All-Stars To "Complete The Physical Set"
@NPC411 I’ve not noticed the Etsy links b4 but I’ll be looking out for them from now: I was genuinely surprised to see it on NL as I generally feel this is a nicely run website.
I agree that Nintendo should have done a manual - doesn’t make it right that someone else does it and charges £11 for it.
Re: Random: Someone Made A Manual For Super Mario 3D All-Stars To "Complete The Physical Set"
@Crono1973 absolutely agree - it was ridiculous that they didn’t include a nice collectors booklet.
Re: Random: Someone Made A Manual For Super Mario 3D All-Stars To "Complete The Physical Set"
@Cevil lol - if it wasn’t so expensive I probably wouldn’t have commented!
Re: Random: Someone Made A Manual For Super Mario 3D All-Stars And You Can Buy It Right Now
How is this remotely legal? And therefore why is NL promoting it?
Re: Hands On: Is Genshin Impact The Zelda: Breath Of The Wild Clone Fans Thought It Was?
I’m really enjoying it tbh. Looks bloody great on my phone and perfect for lunch breaks. Spent hours on it so far without spending any money at all so the gacha/ftp mechanics don’t get in the way of progress as far as I can tell.
Re: FIFA 21 Costs £45 On Switch, Despite Being Another 'Legacy' Reskin
@BenAV exactly what I came here to say! Nobody is forcing anybody to buy it - vote with your money and the practice will stop. If enough people pay £45 it then it won’t. Simples.
Re: Random: Niantic Got Rian Johnson To Direct A Pokémon GO Commercial
Why did that commercial need a ‘special’ director? It wasn’t even a good advert. Honestly I wish companies would stop mindlessly throwing money at big names just for the sake of it.
Re: Random: Niantic Got Rian Johnson To Direct A Pokémon GO Commercial
@KingBowser86 lol that made me snort my breakfast out
Re: Review: Star Wars Episode I: Racer - This N64 Cult Classic Doesn't Quite Make The Podium In 2020
@Beaucine absolutely right. A pure, fun, arcade racing game which gets to extreme speeds. It was brilliant then and it’s still brilliant now.
Re: Star Wars Episode I: Racer Is Getting Several Physical Edition Releases On Switch
@JSDude1 cheers: my point still stands though that a physical cartridge is now nigh on pointless when updates over the eshop add enhancements and functionality. You can buy this cartridge but it won’t have multiplayer for example..
Re: Star Wars Episode I: Racer Is Getting Several Physical Edition Releases On Switch
@Alucard83 sorry do you not actually get a functioning cartridge in these releases???
Re: Star Wars Episode I: Racer Is Getting Several Physical Edition Releases On Switch
@vio exactly. £60 for a plastic box and a cartridge that you still need the eshop for (for the updates) is just daft. I was really pleased when I went ‘physical’ with the Witcher, and with Doom but the updates render the initial cartridge purchases pointless.
Re: Guide: Upcoming Nintendo Switch Games And Accessories For May And June 2020
@Nintendo_Thumb oh yes you are quite right - not blaming Nintendo. And I wouldn’t have a problem with burnout (to take a specific case) being £20 or so: I realise it costs money to adapt a title for Switch. But on no account does it take as much time and effort to port a game as it does to develop the game in the first place, which is why I have an issue with EA charging full price for a port of a 12 year old game. Same goes for Bioshock, x-com etc etc. To be clear the only issue I have is “don’t be daft I’m not paying that”
Re: Guide: Upcoming Nintendo Switch Games And Accessories For May And June 2020
@mesome713 Nintendo is the best yes but £49 for a burnout game from 2008 is taking the piss. As is £30 for Cat Quest.
Re: Guide: Upcoming Nintendo Switch Games And Accessories For May And June 2020
I can’t believe some of the pricing of these games. Cat quest, burnout, bioshock and so on...
Re: Burnout Paradise Remastered Speeds Onto Switch This June, But It's Pretty Pricey
49.99?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 That’s unbelievable!
Re: All DOOM Games Heavily Reduced On Switch, Some Now As Low As £1.20
@Pod why? Why do you need motion controls before you spend a whole £1.20 on one of the most iconic games ever made? It didn’t have motion controls anyway....
Re: Mario Kart Tour's Diddy Kong Pack Costs £39, The Same Price As Mario Kart 8 Deluxe On Switch
@Stocksy the one thing all the ‘complaining’ posts seem to have in common is ‘this is all garbage I refuse to download it shocking disgraceful terrible game’
I’ve played it for half an hour a day since release, spent absolutely nothing on it, and thoroughly enjoyed it. And yes I have MK 8 on Switch.
The in app purchases are an option. Nothing more. Don’t know why people are getting so bent out of shape about it...
Re: Razer's New Gaming Tablet Is One Of The Most Blatant Nintendo Switch Clones Yet
@Realnoize exactly what I was coming here to say.
Re: Nintendo Reveals The Switch eShop's Most Popular Games For August 2019 (Europe)
@JoakimZ was just going say the same thing.....
Re: Review: Kirby's Extra Epic Yarn - A Timeless Classic That Feels Right At Home On 3DS
@Tokiwa absolutely- the switch may be ‘portable’ but it’s not a handheld like the ds/gba
Re: Piranha Plant Is Now Available To Purchase As Paid-For Smash Ultimate DLC
Remember the days when you bought a video game and everything was in it from the start ......? Bloody amiibos, dlc, season pass etc (middle-aged grumble)