@Peppy_Hare - Most companies try to avoid negative press. I'm on the fence about buying the Wii U, and bad press like this certainly doesn't make me wanna go rush out and buy one.
It is kinda sad how some people on this thread are actually saying this is a good idea because they are so scared to say anything negative about their precious Nintendo.
C'mon Nintendo. Crap like this really doesn't help persuade people like me who are on the fence about buying a Wii U into rushing out and buying one. In the meantime, I'm having a blast with my new PS3 and still enjoying my original Wii. At the moment I could care less about Wii U.
I love Nintendo, but I think Pachter is right. I don't think the Wii U is going to have nearly the install base the Wii had, so that will make third parties even less willing to try and port AAA titles, much less develop new IP.
@gojiguy - I just want them to bring back the 3 games they (or Nintendo) pulled down earlier this year. I want another chance to download Bloody Wolf! lol
G-Mode is supporting the Wii VC again? I wish they would bring back the TG16 games they removed earlier this year. And I will be picking up BurgerTime.
@Ren - I completely agree with you about the independent account. In this day and age, that should be standard. Another reason I am holding off is to wait and see what they plan to do with the VC. Will it finally merge with the eShop or will it be contained to Wii Mode? Will the games that transfer over eventually be able to be played from the Wii U's OS or will they be stuck in Wii Mode? Or worse yet, will I be charged again for the same game to play it out of Wii Mode?
When Nintendo can give some info on this, I'll consider getting a Wii U. For now, I'm perfectly happy playing my VC games on my Wii.
@HarmoKnight - apples and oranges. Miiverse is a social network for the Wii U and has nothing to do with his complaint about the lack of an account based system.
@Bliquid - They wouldn't even have to show us anything if they would just let us know what is going on. If they came out and said that they are working on an account based solution that will be in a future system update, it would put a lot of people (myself included), at ease. Or what about the VC, Nintendo? Are you planning on eventually implementing the VC catalog into the Wii U's eShop? It's this secrecy and so many unanswered questions that convinced me to spend my limited gaming budget elsewhere, otherwise I probably would have gotten a Wii U at launch.
@SCAR392 - "Maybe you just shouldn't buy a console and buy DLC for it if you plan on selling it somewhere down the line. That's all there is to it."
No, that's not all there is to it. Microsoft and Sony have been doing this since 2005 and 2006, respectively, and iTunes has been doing it even longer. And, no, sharing games is not the main reason people want Nintendo to do this. Nintendo could easily limit game sharing if they wanted to. The main reason is if your system crashes or if you decide to buy a new model Wii U (different color or bigger HD perhaps) you still have access to your games without having to send your Wii U into Nintendo to have them transferred. And I have heard several cases where Nintendo did not allow transfers on some Wii's that crashed. You're comment about not buying DLC is just complete rationalization. I would think Nintendo would want people to download more DLC, not less. And sometimes hardships come up where people are forced to sell their video game systems. People don't always sell their systems simply because they want what the competitor is offering.
With all that said, I do expect Nintendo to correct this down the line. If they want to be taken seriously, then need to. And, seriously, it's ok to question Nintendo's decisions. I will be getting a Wii U too, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna make excuses and rationalize everything Nintendo does just because I like them.
It wouldn't be a deal breaker for me if I was interested in getting a Wii U on launch day, but it's something Nintendo needs to fix sooner rather than later. I'm hoping they will, as I do plan on buying a Wii U next year. Personally, I will be getting a PS3 on Black Friday to go along with my regular Wii
Only thing that would make eShop better now is get the VC games compatible with the Wii U's OS so we can buy them from the eShop and not have to play them in Wii mode.
@DarkEdi - VC games are not downloadable from the eShop. You have to go into Wii Mode, get the game from the Wii shop and then you can only play it in Wii Mode.
@GameLord08 - Oookay...that's great. That still doesn't prove the Wii U has the momentum to be as successful as the Wii was. I'm not saying it won't or it can't, just it can't be determined with the launch itself.
I tell you what, going by launch day pre-orders, you can call the launch a success. I just don't believe Nintendo explained the console well enough to where everyone "gets it" and wants one like they did with the Wii. Yeah, it will sell out. Hardcore Nintendo fans and people that have to have the newest technology right away will get it day one. But did Nintendo do enough to give this system the momentum the Wii had? I don't think so.
@LZBirdboi - Of course it's gonna sell out at launch, I can't think of a big console launch since the N64 that hasn't. Even the PS3 sold out at launch and it's first year or two was disastrous. They still could have done a better with the launch, and just because it sells out at launch does not mean it will continue to be a big seller like the original Wii.
@truewiimaster - from the Japanese screenshots, it looks like the Wii shop is accessible from the "wii mode" on Wii U. But whether or not VC games downloaded from the Wii U are only playable in "Wii mode" is anyones guess. Nintendo, do you have an answer?
@Jogurt - Nobody knows, because Nintendo hasn't said anything about that. I guess we will all find out if games removed from the Wii shop transfer to Wii U or not in 2 days. Lol, see what I mean about Nintendo being too secretive on Wii U details?
After E3 this year I was really excited about it, and almost reserved one then. With the drought of new information, that excitement wore off, and I know I'm not alone in thinking that. If I was rich I would probably still get one at launch, but I can only afford one new console at the moment and I just don't see much of a reason to put down $350 (plus external storage) on a Wii U right now.
Simply put, Nintendo sold me on the Wii almost instantly. They have not sold me on the Wii U. We are two days from launch and there are still many details we don't know. In some ways I can see how trickling out details can build excitement, but waiting a week before launch before revealing critical details about the online service? I don't see that as a good thing. So, yes, I would say they botched this launch by poorly communicating information about the console.
Maybe this thing has better emulation than some of the plug n plays Sega put out a few years back. I bought one and it had very poor emulation. It did have The Ooze on it, which to my knowledge hasn't been re-released on any other compilation.
I've said it before and I'll continue saying it, Cursed Mountain is an absolute must play if you are even slightly interested in the survival horror genre.
I've managed to beat the arcade version of Ghosts n Goblins and Super Ghouls n Ghosts (both on VC). I've downloaded the Genesis version of Ghouls n Ghosts but I have yet to play it.
@OtakuMan - Are you Dave Marsh? Or were you involved with ICOM simulations and the original Shadowgate? If either of these apply, let me just say it's an honor talking to you on here. Shadowgate is seriously in my top 5 games of all time. I first played it on the NES as a kid back in the late 80's or early 90's and I fell in love with it. I also love Deja Vu and Uninvited, but nothing compares to Shadowgate imo.
As far as re-releasing your older games, what are the chances of getting your old Turbo CD games on the VC (Beyond Shadowgate and the Sherlock Holmes games)? Those are the games I'd really love to see, as I have never had a chance to play them. Would it be harder to get them on compared to the NES games? Anyways, thank you for taking the time to stop by and post in here with us, and I'm sure I could come up with some more questions for you!
@grimbldoo Yes, and? Unless he purchases the system before the store opens, I don't see how he could be the first when you have thousands of stores opening at the same time.
I'm not quite sure how he could be the first to buy one, considering all the stores in that time zone open at the same time and someone else at a different store could be ringing up at the exact same time as him (or sooner). First to line up, sure, but I don't think you could say he is the first to purchase one.
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Re: Nintendo Network Premium Website Goes Live
Man, if they had this on the Wii, I would've had tons of free games. I probably spent over $500 on VC/WiiWare games.
Re: Talking Point: Time for Wii U to Treat Us Like Adults
@Peppy_Hare -
Most companies try to avoid negative press. I'm on the fence about buying the Wii U, and bad press like this certainly doesn't make me wanna go rush out and buy one.
Re: Talking Point: Time for Wii U to Treat Us Like Adults
It is kinda sad how some people on this thread are actually saying this is a good idea because they are so scared to say anything negative about their precious Nintendo.
Re: Talking Point: Time for Wii U to Treat Us Like Adults
C'mon Nintendo. Crap like this really doesn't help persuade people like me who are on the fence about buying a Wii U into rushing out and buying one. In the meantime, I'm having a blast with my new PS3 and still enjoying my original Wii. At the moment I could care less about Wii U.
Re: Pachter: "I think Nintendo becomes completely irrelevant"
@kyuubikid213
I enjoy Zelda II.
Re: Pachter: "I think Nintendo becomes completely irrelevant"
I love Nintendo, but I think Pachter is right. I don't think the Wii U is going to have nearly the install base the Wii had, so that will make third parties even less willing to try and port AAA titles, much less develop new IP.
Re: Nintendo Download: 6th December 2012 (North America)
@gojiguy - I just want them to bring back the 3 games they (or Nintendo) pulled down earlier this year. I want another chance to download Bloody Wolf! lol
Re: Nintendo Download: 6th December 2012 (North America)
BurgerTime should have been on the Wii's VC in 2007.
Re: Nintendo Download: 6th December 2012 (North America)
G-Mode is supporting the Wii VC again? I wish they would bring back the TG16 games they removed earlier this year. And I will be picking up BurgerTime.
Re: Review: Tank! Tank! Tank! (Wii U)
It should have been on eshop and should have had online functions.
Re: Pier Solar HD Kickstarter Smashes Through Wii U Stretch Goal
If I end up getting a Wii U, I would definately get this for it.
Re: Reggie Fils-Aime Focused on Customer Feedback, Not Industry Critics
Most of the critics praise the system but have valid complaints (accounts tied to the system, etc.)
Re: Talking Point: Selling the Wii U Concept - The GamePad and eShop
@Ren - I completely agree with you about the independent account. In this day and age, that should be standard. Another reason I am holding off is to wait and see what they plan to do with the VC. Will it finally merge with the eShop or will it be contained to Wii Mode? Will the games that transfer over eventually be able to be played from the Wii U's OS or will they be stuck in Wii Mode? Or worse yet, will I be charged again for the same game to play it out of Wii Mode?
When Nintendo can give some info on this, I'll consider getting a Wii U. For now, I'm perfectly happy playing my VC games on my Wii.
Re: Reggie: Sony and Microsoft Need To React To What Nintendo Is Doing With Wii U
it still remains to be seen if consumers even care about having another screen on the controller.
Re: Batman: Arkham City Armored Edition Dogged By Performance Issues
Nooooo!!1 Eurogamer lies! Wii U is most powerful console ever, these games run perfect! Reggie told me so!!!!
Re: Lack of "OMG" Idea Explains Borderlands Wii U Absence
@krunchykhaos - That probably depends on how well Aliens sells on the Wii U.
Re: The Godfather of Video Games Is Baffled By The Wii U
Aww, did the mean man insult your pwecious wittle Wii U?
The Wii U may not even exist if it weren't for what this man did for the home video game industry, show some respect.
Re: Nintendo Download: 22nd November 2012 (North America)
D4 is doing everything they can to not give us Pulstar and Blazing Star.
Re: Talking Point: The Nintendo Network ID's Next Big Step
@HarmoKnight - apples and oranges. Miiverse is a social network for the Wii U and has nothing to do with his complaint about the lack of an account based system.
Re: Talking Point: The Nintendo Network ID's Next Big Step
@Bliquid - They wouldn't even have to show us anything if they would just let us know what is going on. If they came out and said that they are working on an account based solution that will be in a future system update, it would put a lot of people (myself included), at ease. Or what about the VC, Nintendo? Are you planning on eventually implementing the VC catalog into the Wii U's eShop? It's this secrecy and so many unanswered questions that convinced me to spend my limited gaming budget elsewhere, otherwise I probably would have gotten a Wii U at launch.
Re: Talking Point: The Nintendo Network ID's Next Big Step
@SCAR392 - "Maybe you just shouldn't buy a console and buy DLC for it if you plan on selling it somewhere down the line. That's all there is to it."
No, that's not all there is to it. Microsoft and Sony have been doing this since 2005 and 2006, respectively, and iTunes has been doing it even longer. And, no, sharing games is not the main reason people want Nintendo to do this. Nintendo could easily limit game sharing if they wanted to. The main reason is if your system crashes or if you decide to buy a new model Wii U (different color or bigger HD perhaps) you still have access to your games without having to send your Wii U into Nintendo to have them transferred. And I have heard several cases where Nintendo did not allow transfers on some Wii's that crashed. You're comment about not buying DLC is just complete rationalization. I would think Nintendo would want people to download more DLC, not less. And sometimes hardships come up where people are forced to sell their video game systems. People don't always sell their systems simply because they want what the competitor is offering.
With all that said, I do expect Nintendo to correct this down the line. If they want to be taken seriously, then need to. And, seriously, it's ok to question Nintendo's decisions. I will be getting a Wii U too, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna make excuses and rationalize everything Nintendo does just because I like them.
Re: Talking Point: The Nintendo Network ID's Next Big Step
It wouldn't be a deal breaker for me if I was interested in getting a Wii U on launch day, but it's something Nintendo needs to fix sooner rather than later. I'm hoping they will, as I do plan on buying a Wii U next year. Personally, I will be getting a PS3 on Black Friday to go along with my regular Wii
Re: Talking Point: The Wii U eShop Could be a Developer's Dream
Only thing that would make eShop better now is get the VC games compatible with the Wii U's OS so we can buy them from the eShop and not have to play them in Wii mode.
Re: Nintendo Download: 18th November 2012 (North America)
@DarkEdi - VC games are not downloadable from the eShop. You have to go into Wii Mode, get the game from the Wii shop and then you can only play it in Wii Mode.
Re: Nintendo Download: 18th November 2012 (North America)
Anybody able to confirm yet if games that were removed from the Wii Shop will transfer over to Wii U? This is definately a great start for eshop
Re: TVii Application Won't Be Available On Wii U Launch
@GameLord08 - Oookay...that's great. That still doesn't prove the Wii U has the momentum to be as successful as the Wii was. I'm not saying it won't or it can't, just it can't be determined with the launch itself.
Re: TVii Application Won't Be Available On Wii U Launch
I tell you what, going by launch day pre-orders, you can call the launch a success. I just don't believe Nintendo explained the console well enough to where everyone "gets it" and wants one like they did with the Wii. Yeah, it will sell out. Hardcore Nintendo fans and people that have to have the newest technology right away will get it day one. But did Nintendo do enough to give this system the momentum the Wii had? I don't think so.
Re: TVii Application Won't Be Available On Wii U Launch
@LZBirdboi - Of course it's gonna sell out at launch, I can't think of a big console launch since the N64 that hasn't. Even the PS3 sold out at launch and it's first year or two was disastrous. They still could have done a better with the launch, and just because it sells out at launch does not mean it will continue to be a big seller like the original Wii.
Re: Donkey Kong Country Trilogy To Be Pulled From Wii Virtual Console
@truewiimaster - from the Japanese screenshots, it looks like the Wii shop is accessible from the "wii mode" on Wii U. But whether or not VC games downloaded from the Wii U are only playable in "Wii mode" is anyones guess. Nintendo, do you have an answer?
Re: Donkey Kong Country Trilogy To Be Pulled From Wii Virtual Console
@Jogurt - Nobody knows, because Nintendo hasn't said anything about that. I guess we will all find out if games removed from the Wii shop transfer to Wii U or not in 2 days. Lol, see what I mean about Nintendo being too secretive on Wii U details?
Re: TVii Application Won't Be Available On Wii U Launch
After E3 this year I was really excited about it, and almost reserved one then. With the drought of new information, that excitement wore off, and I know I'm not alone in thinking that. If I was rich I would probably still get one at launch, but I can only afford one new console at the moment and I just don't see much of a reason to put down $350 (plus external storage) on a Wii U right now.
Re: TVii Application Won't Be Available On Wii U Launch
Simply put, Nintendo sold me on the Wii almost instantly. They have not sold me on the Wii U. We are two days from launch and there are still many details we don't know. In some ways I can see how trickling out details can build excitement, but waiting a week before launch before revealing critical details about the online service? I don't see that as a good thing. So, yes, I would say they botched this launch by poorly communicating information about the console.
Re: TVii Application Won't Be Available On Wii U Launch
I love Nintendo, and plan to get a Wii U, but Nintendo really botched this launch.
Re: Wii U Software Storage on USB Devices Detailed
Nintendo, have you not learned anything?
Re: SENGOKU 2
This game is a lot of fun. I'd give it 7/10.
Re: Nintendo Download: 8th November 2012 (North America)
Interesting, I didn't know they made a Sengoku 2. Going to Youtube now to watch gameplay videos.
Re: Wii to Wii U Data Transfer Details Emerge
I swear the Wii U launch is like an episode of LOST. You answer one thing and there are five more questions.
Re: Mega Man: The Wily Wars Battles Onto Genesis Portable
Maybe this thing has better emulation than some of the plug n plays Sega put out a few years back. I bought one and it had very poor emulation. It did have The Ooze on it, which to my knowledge hasn't been re-released on any other compilation.
Re: Mega Man: The Wily Wars Battles Onto Genesis Portable
Lame. I would buy it on the VC, but I guess they don't want my money.
Re: Ostrich Island Could Be Making Its Way To Wii U
Well this seals the deal for me. I'm getting a Wii U.
Re: Feature: Halloween Scares on Wii
I've said it before and I'll continue saying it, Cursed Mountain is an absolute must play if you are even slightly interested in the survival horror genre.
Re: GameStop Kids Store Launches, 80 More Planned
Wow, a lot of North Texas peeps on this site!
Re: GameStop Kids Store Launches, 80 More Planned
It's kinda cool considering I live so close to Grapevine Mills Mall. I still don't like Gamestop though lol.
Re: Prize Awarded To Brave Knight Who Completed Ghosts 'n Goblins On 3DS
I've managed to beat the arcade version of Ghosts n Goblins and Super Ghouls n Ghosts (both on VC). I've downloaded the Genesis version of Ghouls n Ghosts but I have yet to play it.
Re: Classic NES RPG Shadowgate Getting a Remake
@OtakuMan -
Are you Dave Marsh? Or were you involved with ICOM simulations and the original Shadowgate? If either of these apply, let me just say it's an honor talking to you on here. Shadowgate is seriously in my top 5 games of all time. I first played it on the NES as a kid back in the late 80's or early 90's and I fell in love with it. I also love Deja Vu and Uninvited, but nothing compares to Shadowgate imo.
As far as re-releasing your older games, what are the chances of getting your old Turbo CD games on the VC (Beyond Shadowgate and the Sherlock Holmes games)? Those are the games I'd really love to see, as I have never had a chance to play them. Would it be harder to get them on compared to the NES games? Anyways, thank you for taking the time to stop by and post in here with us, and I'm sure I could come up with some more questions for you!
Re: Nintendo Download: 25th October 2012 (North America)
Shocktroopers it is.
Re: Classic NES RPG Shadowgate Getting a Remake
I'd rather have the original games on the VC. But I might give something to this Kickstarter anyways since I'm such a big fan of the series.
Re: Isaiah Triforce Johnson Is Already Queuing For His Wii U
@grimbldoo
Yes, and? Unless he purchases the system before the store opens, I don't see how he could be the first when you have thousands of stores opening at the same time.
Re: Isaiah Triforce Johnson Is Already Queuing For His Wii U
I'm not quite sure how he could be the first to buy one, considering all the stores in that time zone open at the same time and someone else at a different store could be ringing up at the exact same time as him (or sooner). First to line up, sure, but I don't think you could say he is the first to purchase one.
Re: Nintendo Download: 11th October 2012 (North America)
Now could we please get Pulstar, or Windjammers, or basically ANY Neo Geo game that isn't a 2D fighter next?