@Windy: I know exactly how you feel. If something ever happened to your Nintendo 3DS, then you would have to jump through a lot of hoops like a dog just to get your downloads back on a new 3DS. That is Nintendo's fault because they still refuse to use an account based system like Sony and Microsoft.
If your PSP and/or Vita got stolen or broken, then you would be able to redownload your games since it's all tied to your PSN account. It's relatively simple and stress free, unlike what you have to do if the same thing happened to your 3DS.
There shouldn't be a transfer limit on the 3DS in the first place. Everything should be tied to a Nintendo Network ID. Nintendo claims that they will do this in the future, but I'll believe it when I see it.
Glad to hear that you have a PSP though. Yeah, you should download this game off of PSN. I've been playing that version, and it's solid. Actually, both the PSP and 3DS versions are the same aside from the lack of 3D and the map is on the same screen.
To everyone that's complaining about the game being on eShop and at full price need to realize that this game wouldn't even be in the West via retail form since there's too much cost involved for packaging and etc. You should be grateful that the game is even out. Thanks to digital downloads, gamers can buy games that normally would never be localized.
Also, $30 for essentially for a 80+ hour long RPG (yes, it's that long from what I've heard) is an effing steal if you ask me, Honestly, kids these days...
I'm currently going back and forth between Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode II (PSN version), Paper Mario: Sticker Star, and Rayman Origins (PSN Vita version) whenever I have the chance to actually play games. That might change this weekend, but I'm not sure.
As long as Nintendo continues to insist on maintaining a ''kid-friendly'' image, they're not going to be taken seriously this generation. Nintendo needs to realize that adults (like myself) enjoy gaming just as much as kids and teens do.
Putting a restriction like this on the eShop is only going to make matters worse for the company. Not a lot of adults are going to want to wait until 11:00 PM in order to download a game. Why? Because they are either going to be trying to unwind in order to go to bed or will be asleep. Parental controls should be more than enough. There are no positives to be gained from this.
It's stuff like this that makes me realize that Nintendo will never get with the times. They take one step forward, and ten steps backward. Sony really doesn't have much to worry about this generation.
I may not be personally affected by this since I'm in the USA and NOA is thankfully not that stupid, but it still shows where the company's true priorities are.
This actually is a very useful feature. I don't mind random encounters mind you, but I always preferred visible encounters. I might actually buy this after all.
Oh come on Nintendo, this is just ridiculous. No wonder Nintendo still can't be taken seriously because of cr*p like this. At least NOA is not that stupid.
Pretty sad that a developer is struggling developing for the Wii U when it should be relatively easy to make the game at least as good as the other versions. The Wii U is no true ''next-gen'' console.
That's actually pretty amazing. It makes me wonder if Nintendo doesn't allow online passes for third party developers. If I get this game, it will likely be this version.
Does it really matter? Both are beyond pathetic and you'll still have to buy an external hard drive no matter what. 25 GB and 3 GB is not really that much of a difference in the long run.
Trophies/achievements add replay value to games, make playing bad games worth playing (because at least you get something out of it), and allow you to show off accomplishments you have done in games. Trophies/achievements like ''I 100% the game'' or ''I beat a boss without getting hit'' are actually things to boast about for example. All that Sony and Microsoft did was make it a whole lot easier to do so, and it's a more than welcome feature.
This is just another example of Nintendo being foolishly stubborn and old fashioned, just like they have been with the Wii and Nintendo 64. It did them no favors then, and it's not going to do them any favors now.
For example, I was considering buying the Wii U version of Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed whenever I do decide to buy the game. But there's no point out now since Nintendo isn't going to do a trophy/achievement system, so I'll likely buy the PS3 and/or the Vita version instead. Also, I'll be buying the Vita version of Zero Escape instead of the 3DS version because of this.
Also, trophies/achievements are optional. You don't have to unlock them to enjoy the game and you can ignore them if you want to. But the excuse of ''pointless achievements take the fun out of the game'' is probably the most stupid argument I have heard against them. They're optional, but you CAN both enjoy playing the game itself and unlocking it's trophies/achievements. I know this because I have done so many times in the past...and it's not that hard, trust me. People who make this argument obviously never owned a PS3, 360, or Vita. That, or they put Nintendo on this ridiculously high pedestal that the company honestly doesn't deserve.
I can assure you that if Nintendo did decide to include trophies/achievements, most of the users would either be like ''Whoa, awesome'' or ''Hmmmm...cool''. I highly doubt there would be many gamers who would be wailing about trophies/achievements being included. But of course, when they're not going to be included, gamers act like trophies/achievements are either meh or some kind of unholy abomination. There are a lot of double-minded users on this website, and I learned that fact today.
Once again you guys are missing the point, probably because you never owned a PS3, Xbox 360, or Vita.
Trophies/achievements are a huge part of gaming. They will make you do tasks in games that you never would have done otherwise. I know that some of them are stupid like ''You started the game up'' or ''You beat the first level''. But there are trophies/achievements that are genuinely challenging. Things like ''beating the game without dying'' or ''100% the game'' are things to boast about for example. All that Sony and Microsoft did was make it to where gamers can show off what they done if they wanted to. You can view a gamer's profile and see what they've done. If someone beats Mega Man 9 without dying or getting hit for example, then I'm going to be effing impressed. It's not just a bunch of random numbers, lol.
Not only do trophies.achievements add more replay value to games, but they also will make playing awful or mediocre games worth something. I regret playing Sonic 06, but I at least got some achievements out of that pile of garbage. If a game like that was ported to the Wii U, there would be no reward for playing such an awful game.
Gamers that disagree with me are just too old fashioned...just like Nintendo still is. It took Nintendo this long to realize that they need a new HD console, just like Nintendo was so low in switching to discs for gaming. In both cases, those mistakes made those two consoles limited in popularity. Now Nintendo is making the same mistake once again. It may not affect the Wii U as much, but it will still make gamers see the Wii U in a less serious light.
I saw this coming...this is Nintendo after all. Huge disappointment and honestly a ridiculously idiotic move. Now most gamers (except for Nintendo cultists) will buy the PS3 or 360 version instead of the Wii U version of multiplatform games. Zero Escape is a perfect example.
Like it or not, trophies/achievements actually increase sales in games. Nintendo just keeps taking one step forward but ten steps backwards. It's both amazing and hilarious at the same time.
I'm hoping this comes to the Wii U's eShop or PSN, because then I would actually have to buy the Dreamcast version. Actually...screw it, I'm probably still going to get the Dreamcast version.
What CrispyGoomba said. It seems like it will be a lot better than Super Paper Mario, although it sounds like this won't be as good as Paper Mario 1 and TTYD...which is disappointing to be honest.
This reminds me that I need to get back to playing Solatorobo. I hope this turns out to be true though! Now we just need a Radiant Historia sequel, and the world will be a better place.
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Re: Unchained Blades Coming To North American 3DS eShop In The New Year
@Windy: I know exactly how you feel. If something ever happened to your Nintendo 3DS, then you would have to jump through a lot of hoops like a dog just to get your downloads back on a new 3DS. That is Nintendo's fault because they still refuse to use an account based system like Sony and Microsoft.
If your PSP and/or Vita got stolen or broken, then you would be able to redownload your games since it's all tied to your PSN account. It's relatively simple and stress free, unlike what you have to do if the same thing happened to your 3DS.
There shouldn't be a transfer limit on the 3DS in the first place. Everything should be tied to a Nintendo Network ID. Nintendo claims that they will do this in the future, but I'll believe it when I see it.
Glad to hear that you have a PSP though. Yeah, you should download this game off of PSN. I've been playing that version, and it's solid. Actually, both the PSP and 3DS versions are the same aside from the lack of 3D and the map is on the same screen.
Re: Warren Spector Hints At Epic Mickey 3
LOL Spector, I haven't even played my copy of the first one or bought the sequel or Power of Illusion, so take your good sweet time.
Re: Rumour: Capcom Is Bringing Its Arcade Classics To 3DS And Wii U eShop
Hopefully, it'll come to PSN (and the Vita)!
Re: Unchained Blades Coming To North American 3DS eShop In The New Year
To everyone that's complaining about the game being on eShop and at full price need to realize that this game wouldn't even be in the West via retail form since there's too much cost involved for packaging and etc. You should be grateful that the game is even out. Thanks to digital downloads, gamers can buy games that normally would never be localized.
Also, $30 for essentially for a 80+ hour long RPG (yes, it's that long from what I've heard) is an effing steal if you ask me, Honestly, kids these days...
Re: Unchained Blades Coming To North American 3DS eShop In The New Year
This game is awesome. I really need to get back to it sometime.
Re: Talking Point: What Games Are You Playing This Weekend? - Festive Edition
I'm currently going back and forth between Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode II (PSN version), Paper Mario: Sticker Star, and Rayman Origins (PSN Vita version) whenever I have the chance to actually play games. That might change this weekend, but I'm not sure.
Re: Nintendo Confirms It Is Possible To Transfer Network IDs To Another Wii U
Only Nintendo...
Re: Review: Crimson Shroud (3DS eShop)
My wallet is going to burn!
Re: Professor Layton vs. Ace Attorney Receiving Weekly DLC In Japan
Please for the love of all that's holy, let this game come to the West!
Re: Petition Started To Get Dark Souls II On The Wii U
Don't really care. I'll get the PS3 version if I get Dark Souls 2.
Re: New Theatrhythm Final Fantasy Teaser Site Opens
Obviously a Vita port.
Re: Talking Point: Time for Wii U to Treat Us Like Adults
As long as Nintendo continues to insist on maintaining a ''kid-friendly'' image, they're not going to be taken seriously this generation. Nintendo needs to realize that adults (like myself) enjoy gaming just as much as kids and teens do.
Putting a restriction like this on the eShop is only going to make matters worse for the company. Not a lot of adults are going to want to wait until 11:00 PM in order to download a game. Why? Because they are either going to be trying to unwind in order to go to bed or will be asleep. Parental controls should be more than enough. There are no positives to be gained from this.
It's stuff like this that makes me realize that Nintendo will never get with the times. They take one step forward, and ten steps backward. Sony really doesn't have much to worry about this generation.
I may not be personally affected by this since I'm in the USA and NOA is thankfully not that stupid, but it still shows where the company's true priorities are.
Re: 3DS Remake Of Dragon Quest VII Features Visible Encounters
This actually is a very useful feature. I don't mind random encounters mind you, but I always preferred visible encounters. I might actually buy this after all.
Re: Review: Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed (Wii U)
Great review! I'll likely get the Vita version. This one is a no brainier since I greatly enjoyed the original.
Re: 18-Rated Content on Wii U eShop Only Accessible for Four Hours a Day
Oh come on Nintendo, this is just ridiculous. No wonder Nintendo still can't be taken seriously because of cr*p like this. At least NOA is not that stupid.
Re: Pachter: "I think Nintendo becomes completely irrelevant"
I love you Pachter.
Re: Fire Emblem: Awakening Hitting North America 4th February 2013
Definitely getting this!
Re: Pier Solar HD Kickstarter Smashes Through Wii U Stretch Goal
Oh sweet! Hopefully, it will come to PSN like the developers hinted at!
Re: Sony's President of Worldwide Studios Has A Wii U
Traitor!
Re: Review: Game Party Champions (Wii U)
One thing hasn't changed about the Wii and Wii U, which is tons of shovelware! It's My Birthday Too should be developed!
Re: Review: Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge (Wii U)
This surprisingly got a decent score. I might get this when I eventually buy a Wii U...and when the game is a lot cheaper.
Re: Nintendo of Europe Gives Free Retail Game to 3DS XL Owners
Once again, you lucky Europeans.
Re: Rumour: Yoshi's Land Coming To Wii U
Now this will make me buy a Wii U.
Re: The Godfather of Video Games Is Baffled By The Wii U
Without Bushnell, you probably wouldn't even be playing today's games. So listen to your elders for a change, kids.
Re: Batman: Arkham City Armored Edition Dogged By Performance Issues
The Wii U can't even properly handle Arkham City? Absolutely unacceptable.
Re: Review: Pac-Man (3DS eShop / NES)
Soooo glad I never got the inferior GB version.
Don't remind me, Zerk.
Re: Wii Mini Is Official And Has No Online Connectivity
Somehow, it doesn't surprise me. Sony released a PSP with wireless disabled after all. While this looks attractive, I'm content with my current Wii.
Re: Call of Duty Black Ops II Suffers From Reduced Frame Rate On Wii U
Pretty sad that a developer is struggling developing for the Wii U when it should be relatively easy to make the game at least as good as the other versions. The Wii U is no true ''next-gen'' console.
Re: Review: Tekken Tag Tournament 2 (Wii U)
This looks amazing. I might buy this whenever I do decide to buy a Wii U.
Re: Rumour: SEGA Looking To Bring Classic Titles To 3DS eShop
I would totally buy this.
Re: Feature: Hands-On With 16-bit RPG Pier Solar
I don't know why, but I want that proposed Dreamcast version so bad...
Re: Talking Point: The Nintendo Network ID's Next Big Step
Nintendo Network really isn't much of a network right now, which is why I'm going to wait on buying a Wii U.
Re: Tekken Tag Tournament 2: Wii U Edition Does Not Require Online Pass
That's actually pretty amazing. It makes me wonder if Nintendo doesn't allow online passes for third party developers. If I get this game, it will likely be this version.
Re: Wii U Version Of Grand Theft Auto V "Up For Consideration"
Doesn't matter to me since I'll probably be buying the PS3 version either way.
Re: Wii U Basic Can Only Store 3GB Of Downloaded Software
Does it really matter? Both are beyond pathetic and you'll still have to buy an external hard drive no matter what. 25 GB and 3 GB is not really that much of a difference in the long run.
Re: Capcom Reasserts Its Commitment To Mega Man
Mega Man Soccer 2 for Kinect coming soon in 2013.
Re: Toki Tori 2 Lands on Wii U eShop on 20th December
Whenever I eventually do decide to buy a Wii U, this will likely be one of the first games I download.
Re: Talking Point: Life Without Wii U Achievements
Trophies/achievements add replay value to games, make playing bad games worth playing (because at least you get something out of it), and allow you to show off accomplishments you have done in games. Trophies/achievements like ''I 100% the game'' or ''I beat a boss without getting hit'' are actually things to boast about for example. All that Sony and Microsoft did was make it a whole lot easier to do so, and it's a more than welcome feature.
This is just another example of Nintendo being foolishly stubborn and old fashioned, just like they have been with the Wii and Nintendo 64. It did them no favors then, and it's not going to do them any favors now.
For example, I was considering buying the Wii U version of Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed whenever I do decide to buy the game. But there's no point out now since Nintendo isn't going to do a trophy/achievement system, so I'll likely buy the PS3 and/or the Vita version instead. Also, I'll be buying the Vita version of Zero Escape instead of the 3DS version because of this.
Also, trophies/achievements are optional. You don't have to unlock them to enjoy the game and you can ignore them if you want to. But the excuse of ''pointless achievements take the fun out of the game'' is probably the most stupid argument I have heard against them. They're optional, but you CAN both enjoy playing the game itself and unlocking it's trophies/achievements. I know this because I have done so many times in the past...and it's not that hard, trust me. People who make this argument obviously never owned a PS3, 360, or Vita. That, or they put Nintendo on this ridiculously high pedestal that the company honestly doesn't deserve.
I can assure you that if Nintendo did decide to include trophies/achievements, most of the users would either be like ''Whoa, awesome'' or ''Hmmmm...cool''. I highly doubt there would be many gamers who would be wailing about trophies/achievements being included. But of course, when they're not going to be included, gamers act like trophies/achievements are either meh or some kind of unholy abomination. There are a lot of double-minded users on this website, and I learned that fact today.
Re: Wii U Won't Include Trophies Or Achievements
Once again you guys are missing the point, probably because you never owned a PS3, Xbox 360, or Vita.
Trophies/achievements are a huge part of gaming. They will make you do tasks in games that you never would have done otherwise. I know that some of them are stupid like ''You started the game up'' or ''You beat the first level''. But there are trophies/achievements that are genuinely challenging. Things like ''beating the game without dying'' or ''100% the game'' are things to boast about for example. All that Sony and Microsoft did was make it to where gamers can show off what they done if they wanted to. You can view a gamer's profile and see what they've done. If someone beats Mega Man 9 without dying or getting hit for example, then I'm going to be effing impressed. It's not just a bunch of random numbers, lol.
Not only do trophies.achievements add more replay value to games, but they also will make playing awful or mediocre games worth something. I regret playing Sonic 06, but I at least got some achievements out of that pile of garbage. If a game like that was ported to the Wii U, there would be no reward for playing such an awful game.
Gamers that disagree with me are just too old fashioned...just like Nintendo still is. It took Nintendo this long to realize that they need a new HD console, just like Nintendo was so low in switching to discs for gaming. In both cases, those mistakes made those two consoles limited in popularity. Now Nintendo is making the same mistake once again. It may not affect the Wii U as much, but it will still make gamers see the Wii U in a less serious light.
Re: Wii U Won't Include Trophies Or Achievements
I saw this coming...this is Nintendo after all. Huge disappointment and honestly a ridiculously idiotic move. Now most gamers (except for Nintendo cultists) will buy the PS3 or 360 version instead of the Wii U version of multiplatform games. Zero Escape is a perfect example.
Like it or not, trophies/achievements actually increase sales in games. Nintendo just keeps taking one step forward but ten steps backwards. It's both amazing and hilarious at the same time.
Re: Mega Drive RPG Classic Pier Solar Could Be Headed To Wii U
I'm hoping this comes to the Wii U's eShop or PSN, because then I would actually have to buy the Dreamcast version. Actually...screw it, I'm probably still going to get the Dreamcast version.
Re: 3DS Continues Hardware Sales Dominance in Japan
God, I want Bravely Default so bad. Why in the hell do you not want my money, Square Enix!?
Re: Shantae And The Pirate's Curse Announced For 3DS
Oh my God...and I haven't even finished Risky's Revenge (or even played the original Shantae)!
Re: Review: Paper Mario: Sticker Star (3DS)
What CrispyGoomba said. It seems like it will be a lot better than Super Paper Mario, although it sounds like this won't be as good as Paper Mario 1 and TTYD...which is disappointing to be honest.
Re: CyberConnect2 Confirm Interest In Solatorobo Sequel
This reminds me that I need to get back to playing Solatorobo. I hope this turns out to be true though! Now we just need a Radiant Historia sequel, and the world will be a better place.
Re: Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward Bug Infects Save Data
I'm glad that I'm going to buy the Vita version then.
Re: Miyamoto Puzzled As To Why Anyone Would Want A New F-Zero
''Nothing new to offer''? Are you kidding me, Miyamoto? Do you want my money?
Re: Talking Point: Wii U and the Importance of Backward Compatibility
Obviously yes, or I wouldn't even consider buying a Wii U.
Re: Talking Point: Games That Need Wii U - World of Warcraft
It'll never happen. MMOs are lame anyway.
Re: Watch: First US Wii U Advert Appears
That commercial was utter cr*p. NOA could have done a much better commercial than that garbage.