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@DarkwingLz

No they don't care that's exactly the problem if you have an executive that doesn't even care about this kind of thing your company's future would not be exactlly bright

@DarkwingLz

The level of incompetence at Nintendo is unbelievable, not having an account system cost them millions on digital sales of pokemon x and y

Nintendo does not offer value that's the problem the Wii U is a terrible value compared to the PS3 360 and specially Nintendo's own 3DS

@MrWalkieTalkie

same

@MasterWario

If you have a Vita you can also play Persona 1 to 4 on it

@B3ND3R

I agree 3 is better gameplay wise but I prefer 4 because of the less outlandish story and better developed characters

I hope its not a pure dungeon crawler and have at least some of the characteristic persona story telling charm, if it does I'll buy...

I'm not clear, does this have a save anywhere feature? that's probably what I need to finally beat this games (never could as a child) would be downloading anyways, love Ecco and for some reason underwater is the one thing that really works well with 3DS 3D effect

would you need a nnid to download pokemon bank, I want this Celebi but I'm scared of country locking myself

Stil nobody has been able to tell me whether pokemon bank would be a real account system or whether your pokemon would be tied to your hardwar elike everytihng else Nintendo

Ecco for me

One thing some people fail to understand that import gaming may be a choice for people in major markets who want to play games not available in their regions but in many countries, in Latin America, Asia, Eastern Europe, Africa and the Pacific, you are forced to import game because games are simply not available in your country at all or only at outrageous prices... and with region locking Nintendo also forces you to import games if for some reason you moved to a different region

@ted-k

Nintendo loves to do what others don't even when it makes no sense, cost them lost of money and screw loyal customers over, they seem to get off on it

@ted-k

I don't even care about cross-buy since I don't have a Wii U all I want is to know I won't lose my games if my 3DS is broken or lost or stolen, but what Nintendo is doing with this update is bringing all the drawbacks of an account system without any of the benefits

@PenCapChew

Thanks man was so scared to update without knowing for sure

can anyone who has updated their 3ds can confirm they can avoid registering a nnid and that they can purchase games without ID?

any info on country locking or any other nasties included in the update?

if only you could get them digitally like you can with PSN cards

@Einherjar

Atlus didn't go broke, its parent company did and had to sell Atlus because it was one of its few money making divisions....

The thing is if developers don't want to invest in next gen looking games for Xbone/PS4, they can continue making games for 360/PS3 and maybe also port for the Wii U, but making games only for Wii U makes no sense, its as expensive as making games for 360/PS3 with a much smaller install base... That what I mean about third party support, I don't think Wii U would get third party games that are not available in last gen consoles, so it doesn't offer anything but first party games to those who already own a 360 or PS3

third party support won't improve though, if any it would be worst next year

@skapunx

No that's exactly what he meant

Nintendo hates peitition, they retaliated against the region free petition with a country lock for digital games, a clear "screw you" to those who petitioned

What surprises me is that they didn't manage to surpass Wii U lifetime sales in the U.S. but it may be due to low availability of consoles

Wii U may have unique content the problem is it doesn't have enough of it

Wii U may have unique content the problem is it doesn't have enough of it

I think accounting for digital sales the attach rate would be pretty high, about 80% of Wii U owners would get this game. However, I don't think it would really increase hardware sales dramatically

@123akis

Thats the excuse that's not the real reason the real reason is protecting local retailers and distributers but is a dumb reason specially since they don't have distributors everywhere

@Uberchu

After the New update comes once you register a NNID you would be unable to change the country of your 3DS, physical games would continue to be just region locked but digital games would become country locked ... Nintendo would allow to purchase games without an NNID for a while so you can spend any remaining money you may have in different currencies but they are adamant on country locking everyone and if you want to download a demo or free app you'll need to register NNID and become country locked.... That policy cannot be explained as anything other than wanting to screw customers in order to get back at them for complaining about region lock

@kereke12

They are now country locking the 3DS so they seem to enjoy screwing customers for no reason, no such hope that they will eliminate region lock

If the system support region free the Nintendo should allow third parties to decide whether to region lock their games or not, I'm sure most third parties would choose not to region lock as it happened with the xbox 360 and ps3 who let third parties decide

can't wait for US release

Sorry Nintendo but your Mario sale looks pathetic compared to the black Friday deals going around, couldn't you have at least discounted the recent mario titles

advertising NSMBU and NSLU as two games is kinda misleading

They should have a real black friday/cyber monday sale on the eshop

They should have a real black friday/cyber monday sale on the eshop

@divinelite

Versus is hack n slash, (dynasty warriors) I prefer the classic final fight style of Burst, loving the game so far, and I'm not really into Ecchi, I can recommend the game to anyone who likes 2D beat em ups

If I had a Wii U i'll get 3D world but won't get a system just for it, not interested in Zelda or Mario Party, guess my wallet would get a rest on 3DS expenses until Bravely Default Releases in February

@sinalefa

With that said I think chances for localization are pretty good, Persona is far more popular in the West than the main SMT games so if they localized SMT IV, its is very likely they'll localize this

the other problem with the gamepad that the article failed to mention is that you can't have more than one (because it is too expensive) which is a bad idea especially for Nintendo who focuses in local multiplayer... For example developers of SSB U have acknowledged that they couldn't use the gamepad features for anything because only one player would be having a gamepad while the other 3 would be holding wii-remotes or CCP

@rjejr

But this is not just a puzzle game its also a satire on issues such as politics and religion and the language helps the satirical effect

@cyrus_zuo

What's wrong about the language, actually it fits well in the context of the experience, I got this title for my Vita through PS plus and its and awesome title I recommend it to everyone

@Savino

Exactly I don't care about brand I only care about games and 3DS has them

@eza

And the worst is that they are just sending the money the way of grey market dealers which sell the eshop cards at a ridiculous surplus

@8bitforever

With every generation a new dominant genre arise in a way that could not have been predicted beforehand, I don't think first person shooters would continue to be as dominant next gen as they have been in the seventh gen... What would take over, however, I have no idea

The question I have since day one is how is this supposed to work, is it a real cloud thing that you can log in with password and username from any 3DS or is like everything else Nintendo where you lose your pokemon if you lose your system...

@Nico07

Country locking, granted the PSN IDs are country locked and Vita only accepts one but if you unlink your ID from Vita and wipe it out to link a new one you don't lose your content forever you can link your old ID again in the future..... I would not be complaining if the country locking came with the feature of being able to retrieve your games if your consoles gets stolen or lost or broken but Nintendo at this points is bringing all the drawbacks of an account system without any of the benefits and would require you to register an NNID to download demos and freeware for no other reason that because they do want their customers to get county locked

it's a shame the 3 NES classics would likely never be released in VC due to licensing issues

@Nico07

Backward compatibility is understandable they couldn't get it to work..... Although I still don't get why they are going witth the cloud for ps 1 and 2, ps3 I understand but ps1 and ps2 should be handled by local emulation....

About the video and mp3 yah that sucks, but at least they already backtracked and promised to add mp3 funcionality in a patch, probably video funcionality will come as well if people continue to complain..... On the other hand see how NIntendo acts, if these was Nintendo instead of acknowledging and addressing the complains they'll just ignore or even worst retaliate with additional restrictions as they are doing now.

@Platypus101

Would you say call of duty is a better game than say Persona 4, because it sold more and more people have heard of it?

@Bliquid

Yes I see your point, I guess part of the problem is that the policies don't make a difference to Nintendo bottom line, 3DS is so awesome and has so many exclusives games not available anywhere else that people will still buy them no matter what and Wii U has so many problems like price, no third party support no power ect, that getting in the times with their policies would barely help sales improve so they can continue to screw their customers for lols without any real penalties