@Friendly man, please... Read again. You talked about me being angry, but you, you're in another level as well. Are you OK? Now, in verbatim: "Nintendo, who's famous for aboring their fans guts until the sun falls down, and everyone acts like they are Jesus Christ incarnate. It's amusing." Am i mentioning you? And, I'm not trying to troll you, since that would require me to loose energy i don't have, for something like this. Have a nice day, my friend.
@harrystein both. I envy Nintendo and every big company for their capacity to trick people and still make those same people defend them with their lifes. That's admirable. And it's called andropause in men, by the way. I suppose you wouldn't know that... 😏
@harrystein i own the 3 systems. XD I suppose you must be jealous of Halo, God of War, The Last of Us, Red Dead Redemption, Bloodborne, Elden Rings, and all the "crappy" games Nintendo has in their systems as well. Oh, wait...you have Smash Brothers, fully priced remakes of 30 year old games, and Mario Rabbids, this, not mentioning Metroid 4...Oh, wait.
@harrystein 🤣🤣 nah, they did an awesome game, still considered a landmark of gaming, with only 3 devs. If they had 300, Nintendo would be in trouble, since not even with 1 million workers and revenue they can make a good game.
@Friendly just because I'm here means i have to worship Nintendo, mate? 😂 They released a some what okayish machine i can use to play games, doesn't make them gods or something i cannot see the flaws in. But, yeah, I'm not arguing with you over that, because you clearly showed your position in this. Enjoy your games.
@Friendly and you're defending a game, that you haven't seen nothing but the trailer yet. @RoguePirate has every right to say what he wants, because you haven't seen the game yet, still you defend it's high price tag. I hope you can see how crazy that sounds, but i don't think you will. You called HK boring but you're defending Dread, that can be, for all we know, just a movie.
@harrystein i work more than 12h a day, every single day, and i still managed to beat it. Although, paying for a game that is 5h like it's the last cookie in the jar, it's not my thing either. So, let more HK's come and let Nintendo fanboys keep their games.
@Friendly and, by now, being one of the richest companies in the world, is still acceptable barely having promotions or over charging for every piece of garbage they release?
@harrystein i hope you're joking. HK boring? Even comparing it to Metroid?? 😂 Nintendo still has a lot to learn from Team Cherry, a team of 3 devs who managed to make an awesome game, nearly for free, and full of post launch content, for free as well. Don't compare those.
@Vexx234 unfortunately, a lot of people here are hardcore Nintendo fans, for some reason, and don't react well to critics, no matter how much Nintendo actually hates their guts.
@kurtasbestos I'm sorry to say but that is not exactly true. Many game along the history of videogames have failed to become franchises due to short length and a high price tag. Comes to mind games like Order:1886, Portal, Kane & Lynch, and so on. Needless to say that people weren't happy to pay full price for what it felt like and oversized tech demo. What i see here is that those games weren't Nintendo made, so no hardcore fans to defend it like it's the holy grail of gaming, despite the over-all lack of respect Nintendo has regarding their own fanbase.
@Spiders in that perspective i totally agree with you. Valhalla was indeee a major disappointment and I'm glad i didn't paid full price for it. And i really appreciate what HK and DC, (although i can't play the last one for some reason), are indeed the standard of what games should look like and what companies should strive for. Thank you for mentioning those. What i wanted to say is just that: people will have different opinions and how to expend their own money or not, we simply cannot burn everyone because they disagree with us. I'm not a fan of any companies, any major game companies at all, since i find them very predatory, so i don't defend any.
@Spiders unfortunately, we cannot compare both, as a meal is indeed a necessary thing, and a game isn't. Many people here compared both and that just shows a bit of alienation. If you have enough to buy a 60$ game without complaining, I'm really happy, but if others don't and find it expensive, for any given reason, please don't be upset. There's a life beyond gaming, many gamers are parents, working to put food on the table, and they enjoy gaming to relax; if every game comes with a steep price, that only a select few can buy, than many people won't enjoy this amazing thing that videogames bring. I know it might not make sense to a lot of people in here, but if it comes between buying a 60$ game that probably will never go on sale and feeding your kids, the choice is obvious.
@RoguePirate couldn't have said it better. Amazing games you've just listed and well worth what they cost. HK was the first game I really felt bad for paying such a low amount, when compared to what the game is.
@iuli oh, and Brașov was the first place i visited in Romania. Brans Castle. XD Hopefully in a year I'll be moving to Romania, if everything goes according to plan. 😊
@iuli you're very welcome. Your country is the most gorgeous country I've ever seen and my dream is to live there. 350 lei...my god. Most people here won't realise that this amount is nearly a full months work in some countries or even more than this. So, they'll try to burn you on public square when you even mutter a word about how expensive it is, like you don't have the right to your opinion.
Now, I'm really happy that some people are so well in life that they don't care about how much they expend in anything, but alienation is really a problem.
@Petew it won't. Hollow Knight is a a very different kind of beast, when compared to most games nowadays. Fully priced was 11£, and in promotion 5£... Where do you have games that are hours and hours of gameplay and you pay as much as 11£? Difference between HK is that Team Cherry had the support of fans, even through Kickstarter, and they showed their appreciation through a huge, nearly free game, with even more content added through free dlcs. Nintendo will charge you even for the smallest skin 19.99£... This is the difference.
@UltimateOtaku91 and that is the thing. It seems that either you're a fan or not, and this game at this price was clearly targeted for fans, who seem way to happy to give 40£, 50£, 60£ for a game, and they'll tell you to shut up if you argue about it, as if everyone can afford 50£ for a game. This as been going since the beginning, and people will tell you: ah, super mario back in the 80's was also expensive, but they don't realise: back then, if you haven't bought it, quickly enough, companies would price their game fairer. Thing is, the gaming industry keeps shoving things down people's throats and there are always some who won't care, so they'll keep shoving even more until someone tells them: yep, that's enough. There are other hobbies.
@Spiders the ratio should be done like this. Portugal (my country) hourly rate pay: €4.38, 3.76£, or 5.20$, to buy a game for this you have to work around 13 hours, which is nearly 2 days. So, think well, you have to work 2 days to buy a 5h game. 2 days and in half of a day or less, you finish the game.
@UltimateOtaku91 exactly. Comes to mind the cheapest game I've ever seen, when you amount how much you get out of it: Hollow Knight. Loved the team and the way they priced the game and the free stuff, that i bought it in 3 different systems.
@TakoSamurai please don't say that. Everyone here seems way to happy to release 60£ on a game... Am i the only one who thinks that 60£ is money? Has money become so useless? Have our work and how much we sweat to get 60£ so worthless? Or maybe I'm getting way too old.
Still waiting for the day that something like this will show up:
"Why Breath of the Wild 45 costs 560£ and why you'll be happy not to eat, pay rent, or anything else, to buy it."
Man... everyday, every single day, the gaming industry makes me love reading, more and more. Sad industry that is more worried about taking your blood than actually entertain you.
@themightyant this argument has been going for ages. The idea of this is that devs will soon see that they don't have to port anything if people still pay full price for a Cloud version that actually doesn't belong to you. And if, just saying, you're willing to pay this amount of money for something that doesn't belong to you, due to reasons, there are services like xCloud, or Stadia, which are far less money, and with the right controller, will make your potato a full console. So, no, they should let the Switch be what she was ment to be, a hybrid that you can dock and undock and still play out of internets reach.
If you have 39£ for every cloud game on the Switch, i think there's 4 at the moment, or will be once this one comes out, plus money to buy a good bundle of internet, if you want your Switch to be portable with these games, which will be around 30£ or 40£ to say the least; a PS4 or Xbox One in secondhand might cost you way less than this Cloud versions. Just make the accounts. It makes absolutely no sense for someone to say; oh, i don't have money for another console, and then, buying this Cloud versions, especially because only a small amount of people will have access to a good bandwidth to play this games properly. Otherwise you're just playing on a potato.
@Slowdive totally agree. In the beginning was that clichéd image of the "always angry Japanese", and it had some fun. Now, it just shows that he has no respect for his fans, the ones who actually pay for his salary.
@Slowdive and you're absolutely right. I never even played Bayoneta, but there are people who defend this behaviour. Guy got offended because someone simply asked him if the game was in development hell and throws a tantrum at a fan... and people still come and defend him. I'm wild guessing but these might be the people who couldn't care less that are sexual harassments and crunchs on companies, since devs are always right. Funny that when are the fans that do this, everyone gathers to burn it, now, if it's a developer; ah, well, he's so funny... No. He's not funny. He's a rude guy who does this over and over and still will until someone slaps him in the mouth, which is the only medication for some rude little s...ts.
This guy really needs to calm down. Or either he doesn't understand how this works and how long waits can be tiresome, or most certainly has himself in higher importance than he actually has. I'm not a fan of Bayoneta, but moody devs, and especially without reason tend to make me not being interested at all.
@ERIC_MACK I was honestly worried about this team. Quite nerve breaking not to have any news on the only game i was expecting, since Soul Reaver and Silent Hill are a no go until the dead start to come out of their graves.
@Tsusasi I read what some people here wrote to you. Honestly, don't bother to answer them. As i said, they get happy by being as idiotic as they can. 4 brain cells died when they were born, so it's probably not their fault. It is an amazing story and i hope NL keeps posting more of these. Have a great day.
@Low_ink i bet so as well. I would have chosen the pizza, also, to be honest, since, while growing up, my mom was never the tender kind and would have never had done nothing like this. My father neither, since I've never met him. But pizza or time with family would have been wonderful if the opportunity presented itself.
Thank you for being respectful in your comment, and have an awesome day.
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Re: Prepare For Survival Platforming With Residual, Launching Later This Year
For some reason, reminds me a lot of Outbuddies DX, which i never managed to understand, no matter how much i played.
Re: Dark Fantasy Metroidvania Ender Lilies Launches On Switch Today
@Eel you're right. I'm sorry. I meant no disrespect to the other users reading this and thank you for deleting everything.
Re: Dark Fantasy Metroidvania Ender Lilies Launches On Switch Today
@Friendly man, please... Read again. You talked about me being angry, but you, you're in another level as well. Are you OK? Now, in verbatim:
"Nintendo, who's famous for aboring their fans guts until the sun falls down, and everyone acts like they are Jesus Christ incarnate. It's amusing."
Am i mentioning you? And, I'm not trying to troll you, since that would require me to loose energy i don't have, for something like this.
Have a nice day, my friend.
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@harrystein both. I envy Nintendo and every big company for their capacity to trick people and still make those same people defend them with their lifes. That's admirable. And it's called andropause in men, by the way. I suppose you wouldn't know that... 😏
Re: Dark Fantasy Metroidvania Ender Lilies Launches On Switch Today
@harrystein i own the 3 systems. XD I suppose you must be jealous of Halo, God of War, The Last of Us, Red Dead Redemption, Bloodborne, Elden Rings, and all the "crappy" games Nintendo has in their systems as well. Oh, wait...you have Smash Brothers, fully priced remakes of 30 year old games, and Mario Rabbids, this, not mentioning Metroid 4...Oh, wait.
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@harrystein 🤣🤣 nah, they did an awesome game, still considered a landmark of gaming, with only 3 devs. If they had 300, Nintendo would be in trouble, since not even with 1 million workers and revenue they can make a good game.
Re: Dark Fantasy Metroidvania Ender Lilies Launches On Switch Today
@Friendly just because I'm here means i have to worship Nintendo, mate? 😂 They released a some what okayish machine i can use to play games, doesn't make them gods or something i cannot see the flaws in. But, yeah, I'm not arguing with you over that, because you clearly showed your position in this. Enjoy your games.
Re: Dark Fantasy Metroidvania Ender Lilies Launches On Switch Today
@Friendly and you're defending a game, that you haven't seen nothing but the trailer yet. @RoguePirate has every right to say what he wants, because you haven't seen the game yet, still you defend it's high price tag. I hope you can see how crazy that sounds, but i don't think you will. You called HK boring but you're defending Dread, that can be, for all we know, just a movie.
Re: Dark Fantasy Metroidvania Ender Lilies Launches On Switch Today
@moodycat true. I've been waiting for it to release. Hopefully it's today and not when they feel like it.
Re: Dark Fantasy Metroidvania Ender Lilies Launches On Switch Today
@harrystein i work more than 12h a day, every single day, and i still managed to beat it. Although, paying for a game that is 5h like it's the last cookie in the jar, it's not my thing either. So, let more HK's come and let Nintendo fanboys keep their games.
Re: Dark Fantasy Metroidvania Ender Lilies Launches On Switch Today
@Friendly and, by now, being one of the richest companies in the world, is still acceptable barely having promotions or over charging for every piece of garbage they release?
Re: Dark Fantasy Metroidvania Ender Lilies Launches On Switch Today
@harrystein i hope you're joking. HK boring? Even comparing it to Metroid?? 😂 Nintendo still has a lot to learn from Team Cherry, a team of 3 devs who managed to make an awesome game, nearly for free, and full of post launch content, for free as well. Don't compare those.
Re: Dark Fantasy Metroidvania Ender Lilies Launches On Switch Today
@moodycat true, so when is it released? I have my page saying today, though. But, still nothing.
Re: Dark Fantasy Metroidvania Ender Lilies Launches On Switch Today
@RoguePirate oh... I was going to mention this one in the Dread thread, but missed it. Pre-ordered and it is indeed an amazing price.
Re: Talking Point: Why Metroid Dread Will Be Worth $60
@Vexx234 unfortunately, a lot of people here are hardcore Nintendo fans, for some reason, and don't react well to critics, no matter how much Nintendo actually hates their guts.
Re: Talking Point: Why Metroid Dread Will Be Worth $60
@kurtasbestos I'm sorry to say but that is not exactly true. Many game along the history of videogames have failed to become franchises due to short length and a high price tag. Comes to mind games like Order:1886, Portal, Kane & Lynch, and so on. Needless to say that people weren't happy to pay full price for what it felt like and oversized tech demo. What i see here is that those games weren't Nintendo made, so no hardcore fans to defend it like it's the holy grail of gaming, despite the over-all lack of respect Nintendo has regarding their own fanbase.
Re: Talking Point: Why Metroid Dread Will Be Worth $60
@Spiders in that perspective i totally agree with you. Valhalla was indeee a major disappointment and I'm glad i didn't paid full price for it. And i really appreciate what HK and DC, (although i can't play the last one for some reason), are indeed the standard of what games should look like and what companies should strive for. Thank you for mentioning those. What i wanted to say is just that: people will have different opinions and how to expend their own money or not, we simply cannot burn everyone because they disagree with us. I'm not a fan of any companies, any major game companies at all, since i find them very predatory, so i don't defend any.
Re: Talking Point: Why Metroid Dread Will Be Worth $60
@Spiders unfortunately, we cannot compare both, as a meal is indeed a necessary thing, and a game isn't. Many people here compared both and that just shows a bit of alienation. If you have enough to buy a 60$ game without complaining, I'm really happy, but if others don't and find it expensive, for any given reason, please don't be upset. There's a life beyond gaming, many gamers are parents, working to put food on the table, and they enjoy gaming to relax; if every game comes with a steep price, that only a select few can buy, than many people won't enjoy this amazing thing that videogames bring. I know it might not make sense to a lot of people in here, but if it comes between buying a 60$ game that probably will never go on sale and feeding your kids, the choice is obvious.
Re: Talking Point: Why Metroid Dread Will Be Worth $60
@RoguePirate i did the same and they refused as well... 🤣🤣 Amazing team.
Re: Talking Point: Why Metroid Dread Will Be Worth $60
@RoguePirate couldn't have said it better. Amazing games you've just listed and well worth what they cost. HK was the first game I really felt bad for paying such a low amount, when compared to what the game is.
Re: Talking Point: Why Metroid Dread Will Be Worth $60
@iuli oh, and Brașov was the first place i visited in Romania. Brans Castle. XD Hopefully in a year I'll be moving to Romania, if everything goes according to plan. 😊
Re: Talking Point: Why Metroid Dread Will Be Worth $60
@iuli you're very welcome. Your country is the most gorgeous country I've ever seen and my dream is to live there. 350 lei...my god. Most people here won't realise that this amount is nearly a full months work in some countries or even more than this. So, they'll try to burn you on public square when you even mutter a word about how expensive it is, like you don't have the right to your opinion.
Now, I'm really happy that some people are so well in life that they don't care about how much they expend in anything, but alienation is really a problem.
Re: Talking Point: Why Metroid Dread Will Be Worth $60
@Petew it won't. Hollow Knight is a a very different kind of beast, when compared to most games nowadays. Fully priced was 11£, and in promotion 5£... Where do you have games that are hours and hours of gameplay and you pay as much as 11£? Difference between HK is that Team Cherry had the support of fans, even through Kickstarter, and they showed their appreciation through a huge, nearly free game, with even more content added through free dlcs. Nintendo will charge you even for the smallest skin 19.99£... This is the difference.
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@UltimateOtaku91 and that is the thing. It seems that either you're a fan or not, and this game at this price was clearly targeted for fans, who seem way to happy to give 40£, 50£, 60£ for a game, and they'll tell you to shut up if you argue about it, as if everyone can afford 50£ for a game. This as been going since the beginning, and people will tell you: ah, super mario back in the 80's was also expensive, but they don't realise: back then, if you haven't bought it, quickly enough, companies would price their game fairer. Thing is, the gaming industry keeps shoving things down people's throats and there are always some who won't care, so they'll keep shoving even more until someone tells them: yep, that's enough. There are other hobbies.
Re: Talking Point: Why Metroid Dread Will Be Worth $60
@Spiders the ratio should be done like this.
Portugal (my country) hourly rate pay:
€4.38, 3.76£, or 5.20$, to buy a game for this you have to work around 13 hours, which is nearly 2 days. So, think well, you have to work 2 days to buy a 5h game. 2 days and in half of a day or less, you finish the game.
Re: Talking Point: Why Metroid Dread Will Be Worth $60
@nessisonett my mistake. Even though.
Re: Talking Point: Why Metroid Dread Will Be Worth $60
@UltimateOtaku91 exactly. Comes to mind the cheapest game I've ever seen, when you amount how much you get out of it: Hollow Knight. Loved the team and the way they priced the game and the free stuff, that i bought it in 3 different systems.
Re: Talking Point: Why Metroid Dread Will Be Worth $60
@TakoSamurai please don't say that. Everyone here seems way to happy to release 60£ on a game... Am i the only one who thinks that 60£ is money? Has money become so useless? Have our work and how much we sweat to get 60£ so worthless? Or maybe I'm getting way too old.
Re: Talking Point: Why Metroid Dread Will Be Worth $60
Still waiting for the day that something like this will show up:
"Why Breath of the Wild 45 costs 560£ and why you'll be happy not to eat, pay rent, or anything else, to buy it."
Man... everyday, every single day, the gaming industry makes me love reading, more and more. Sad industry that is more worried about taking your blood than actually entertain you.
Re: Hellpoint
Such a missed opportunity...Sad!
Re: Another Cloud Game Is On Its Way To Nintendo Switch This July
@themightyant this argument has been going for ages. The idea of this is that devs will soon see that they don't have to port anything if people still pay full price for a Cloud version that actually doesn't belong to you. And if, just saying, you're willing to pay this amount of money for something that doesn't belong to you, due to reasons, there are services like xCloud, or Stadia, which are far less money, and with the right controller, will make your potato a full console. So, no, they should let the Switch be what she was ment to be, a hybrid that you can dock and undock and still play out of internets reach.
Re: Another Cloud Game Is On Its Way To Nintendo Switch This July
If you have 39£ for every cloud game on the Switch, i think there's 4 at the moment, or will be once this one comes out, plus money to buy a good bundle of internet, if you want your Switch to be portable with these games, which will be around 30£ or 40£ to say the least; a PS4 or Xbox One in secondhand might cost you way less than this Cloud versions. Just make the accounts.
It makes absolutely no sense for someone to say; oh, i don't have money for another console, and then, buying this Cloud versions, especially because only a small amount of people will have access to a good bandwidth to play this games properly. Otherwise you're just playing on a potato.
Re: Hideki Kamiya Shares Irritation At Speculation Over Bayonetta 3
@Slowdive totally agree. In the beginning was that clichéd image of the "always angry Japanese", and it had some fun. Now, it just shows that he has no respect for his fans, the ones who actually pay for his salary.
Re: Hideki Kamiya Shares Irritation At Speculation Over Bayonetta 3
@Slowdive and you're absolutely right. I never even played Bayoneta, but there are people who defend this behaviour. Guy got offended because someone simply asked him if the game was in development hell and throws a tantrum at a fan... and people still come and defend him. I'm wild guessing but these might be the people who couldn't care less that are sexual harassments and crunchs on companies, since devs are always right. Funny that when are the fans that do this, everyone gathers to burn it, now, if it's a developer; ah, well, he's so funny...
No. He's not funny. He's a rude guy who does this over and over and still will until someone slaps him in the mouth, which is the only medication for some rude little s...ts.
Re: Hideki Kamiya Shares Irritation At Speculation Over Bayonetta 3
This guy really needs to calm down. Or either he doesn't understand how this works and how long waits can be tiresome, or most certainly has himself in higher importance than he actually has. I'm not a fan of Bayoneta, but moody devs, and especially without reason tend to make me not being interested at all.
Re: Switch Error Code 2123-1502 - Users Still Waiting On Fix For Update 12.0.3 Issues
Yep. Still have it. Nintendo is literally taking the p...s now. I paid for 2 games recently that i cannot even play.
Re: Reminder: Team17's Switch Sale Ends Today, Up To 90% Off (North America)
@abbyhitter true, bought it as well and literally played an hour until i lost my patience.
Re: Switch Users Report Problem With Error 2123-1502 Following System Update Issues
Yep, still going. Still not able to download anything.
Re: New Zelda: Breath Of The Wild 2 Footage Shown, Aiming For A 2022 Switch Release
@ERIC_MACK I was honestly worried about this team. Quite nerve breaking not to have any news on the only game i was expecting, since Soul Reaver and Silent Hill are a no go until the dead start to come out of their graves.
Re: New Zelda: Breath Of The Wild 2 Footage Shown, Aiming For A 2022 Switch Release
Anyone noticed there's still no news of Silksong? I'm starting to believe something happened to them, as it not normal.
Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance Switch Port Is Finally Confirmed
What the ...? This Saber are a team of dark sorcerers in cahoots with the Devil himself...
Re: Random: So, Someone Just Bought An "Among Us Shaped" Chicken Nugget For Almost $100,000
@KillTheG1mp exactly my thoughts. And unfortunately, it's the reason it will never change; just too many people who couldn't actually care less.
Re: Random: So, Someone Just Bought An "Among Us Shaped" Chicken Nugget For Almost $100,000
This is sad...
And no, "can't think of anything else to say".
Re: Konami Won't Be Attending E3 2021 But Still Has A Number Of Projects To Reveal
So, no Silent Hill, again...
Re: Random: Boy Has To Choose Between Nintendo Switch And Pizza, Chooses Pizza
@Tsusasi I read what some people here wrote to you. Honestly, don't bother to answer them. As i said, they get happy by being as idiotic as they can. 4 brain cells died when they were born, so it's probably not their fault.
It is an amazing story and i hope NL keeps posting more of these. Have a great day.
Re: Random: Boy Has To Choose Between Nintendo Switch And Pizza, Chooses Pizza
@Low_ink i bet so as well. I would have chosen the pizza, also, to be honest, since, while growing up, my mom was never the tender kind and would have never had done nothing like this. My father neither, since I've never met him. But pizza or time with family would have been wonderful if the opportunity presented itself.
Thank you for being respectful in your comment, and have an awesome day.