A low 4/10 from NL and a divisive comment section agreeing or disagreeing on the review is why review scores should be abandoned and why there's gotta be better management with who plays what game and if they like the genre or not.
@Specter_of-the_OLED Yes I do know 2021 was Sonic's 30th anniversary but unless they had nothing bigger in their plans (like Movie 2 in 2022) it wouldn't go well sales-wise to release Frontiers this year, let alone whatever kind of quality we're going to expect but for the reason that how messy SEGA's management is, most can expect bare minimum
Christ, no one cares about Sonic's 30 year history and especially no one cares about what you think of this franchise with the same old "2D good, 3D bad" cliche. Congrats on wasting your precious time writing this garbage, Mr. Stuart.
But...why use Sonic Chronicles art of all other RPGs SEGA made? It doesn't mention that this is going to be a new Sonic RPG (which will still lead to many people believe it's going to be a Chronicles sequel), just a new RPG. At least for the thumbnail you could just go with Phantasy Star or Skies of Arcadia for a more reasonable imagination for what that new RPG is going to be.
@Snatcher If this community didn't change much, we will still have people having a stench over how awful Unleashed is because you play most of the game as Werehog and that it has lots of performance issues. The fact that we have a good amount of people telling that Unleashed is one of the better Sonic games is...something.
@Arn0ld No, Generations it it's real best form is not available on the Switch and SA2 is pushed away because it isn't as good as people used to say back then.
> The Blue Blur has starred in quite a few legitimately great games over the years, but he’s also been in just about as many clunkers that tanked his reputation. Sonic has especially struggled when it’s come to his forays into 3D environments
For crying out loud, would you guys and everyone in the gaming journalism NOT START a Sonic review with the same old "Sonic had a rough transition to 3D"? We have gone up 15 years after Sonic's actual lowest 3D point and yet this stuff STILL occures as if nothing's changed. How does anyone get paid for this?
Why turn back from the teaser and say it you revealed it "a tad bit too early"? Now everyone here are just going to assume it's going to be a repeat in history
Does it really matter about games that aren't high budget 3D games, especially when it comes to 2D games? If we are getting a high budget 2D game from a company like Nintendo, of course it will cost 60 bucks.
@everynowandben I did and stopped playing 1/4th of it's way. It wasn't good, much like all Pokemon. Sounds ridiculous but i'm not trying to convince everyone to play other games than Pokemon because people will still like this series.
Because...it will be absolutely ridiculous? Nobody with a right mind would play golf while running at the same time while everyone is knocking out eachother over who can get a hole first. But yeah, it's only a silly idea.
@Snatcher Nowhere in the development did they used builds from a certain fangame. I assume you mean the Retro/Star Engine, which is Whitehead's own made engine and was also only used in 2 fangames, yes, but Mania does not use assets from any of them. Calling them "Sonic fans" is rather unprofessional, they are talented and professional developers who learned how to make games and just so happen to be big fans of Sonic.
@Snatcher Never have I heard when Whitehead and his team worked on a fangame that was called Sonic Mania, Mania was created as a official game from the start of it's development and the devs weren't just brought in to SEGA's HQ because they felt like it.
Late here but the poll is quite unbalanced and misses on a few important titles (like Generations on consoles of course) and all of that is simply due to the fact that this poll includes Sonic games that are "available on Nintendo consoles", not to mention that users here are delusional and mostly do not care about Sonic, giving a few games there too high or too low place they deserve. The old retrospective reviews on certain games (like SA2B) add more to the problems of this said poll. At least they are generous to put Sonic 3 at #1 because anyone outside of being a Sonic fan would put Sonic 2 or Mania because that is what everyone perfers. Thanks but no thanks.
@Snatcher No, it's not a bad thing, it's just that Sonic 3 doesn't give me any nostalgia even if it was my first Sonic game. I'm okay living that and it still makes me like Sonic 3.
@DavidMac > In the 2D games they had creative level design where you were essentially zooming through tunnels, but it didn’t feel like tunnels, because you couldn’t fall off the Z axis.
...that is how 3D Mario was made for the same reason and all other 3D platformers. What Sonic makes it different?
@Crockin Cash in, what? There weren't much platformers between the NES and the SNES era that were trying to compete against Mario, let alone succeeding it. Sonic was created, yes to rival Mario but he also showcased a distinct identity and appeal that made him unique unlike anything before it. He not only gave proof that platformers can be anything but "haha funny guy jumps on platforms" but also that, eventually, Mr. Jumpman won't be sitting long on his throne, someone will have to replace him, even if it's temporarily
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Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Pokémon Scarlet And Violet?
I would probably give it a 6, giving how unpolished it is bundled some minor actual fun activites.
And yet the game would still get a higher score than Frontiers from you guys anyway...
Re: Review: Sonic Frontiers - A Bold But Ultimately Failed Attempt At Something New
A low 4/10 from NL and a divisive comment section agreeing or disagreeing on the review is why review scores should be abandoned and why there's gotta be better management with who plays what game and if they like the genre or not.
Re: Steam Deck Nintendo Emulation Videos Are Being Pulled From YouTube
Nintendo got embarrassed that Valve made their own Switch and made it much superior than their own console.
Re: Sonic Frontiers Was Originally Planned For A 2021 Release, But Sega Wanted To "Brush Up The Quality"
@Specter_of-the_OLED Yes I do know 2021 was Sonic's 30th anniversary but unless they had nothing bigger in their plans (like Movie 2 in 2022) it wouldn't go well sales-wise to release Frontiers this year, let alone whatever kind of quality we're going to expect but for the reason that how messy SEGA's management is, most can expect bare minimum
Re: Nintendo "Has Interest" In NFTs And The 'Metaverse'
Introducing...Super Mario NFTs for only 40,000 Nintendo Coins (equivalent to $4 million)
Re: Sonic Frontiers Was Originally Planned For A 2021 Release, But Sega Wanted To "Brush Up The Quality"
I have no idea why they wanted to release Frontiers in 2021 in the first place.
Re: Mother 4 "Unofficial Fan Project" Revealed, Here's Your First Look
Annnnndddddd DMCA'd 2 minutes later.
Re: Smash Bros. Ultimate Adds Doom Slayer And Splatoon Characters As Mii Fighter Costumes
RIP Doom fans.
Re: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate's Final Fighter Is... Kingdom Hearts' Sora!
I thought this day will never come. My goodness. Kingdom Hearts fans are getting real good tonight.
Re: UK Charts: Sonic Colors Ultimate Debuts In Third Place, Selling Best On Switch
Yeah, good to know.
Re: Sonic The Hedgehog Returns To The Macy's Parade, Almost 30 Years After Injuring Two People
They thought he would be locked forever and now they released him. He's out for a kill again, great job.
Also I don't think SEGA had to do with these accidents, because...do they make balloons for the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade?
Re: Feature: 30 Years Of Sonic The Hedgehog - The Many Faces Of Mario's Biggest Rival
Christ, no one cares about Sonic's 30 year history and especially no one cares about what you think of this franchise with the same old "2D good, 3D bad" cliche. Congrats on wasting your precious time writing this garbage, Mr. Stuart.
Re: Sega To Announce "New RPG" At This Year's Tokyo Game Show
But...why use Sonic Chronicles art of all other RPGs SEGA made? It doesn't mention that this is going to be a new Sonic RPG (which will still lead to many people believe it's going to be a Chronicles sequel), just a new RPG. At least for the thumbnail you could just go with Phantasy Star or Skies of Arcadia for a more reasonable imagination for what that new RPG is going to be.
Re: Review: Sonic Colors Ultimate - The Best 3D Sonic Game Gets A Respectable Remaster
@Snatcher If this community didn't change much, we will still have people having a stench over how awful Unleashed is because you play most of the game as Werehog and that it has lots of performance issues. The fact that we have a good amount of people telling that Unleashed is one of the better Sonic games is...something.
Re: Review: Sonic Colors Ultimate - The Best 3D Sonic Game Gets A Respectable Remaster
@Frailbay30 Why making Sonic spin-offs with stuff that Mario has is considered a bad idea? You could blame Nintendo for that too.
Re: Review: Sonic Colors Ultimate - The Best 3D Sonic Game Gets A Respectable Remaster
@Arn0ld No, Generations it it's real best form is not available on the Switch and SA2 is pushed away because it isn't as good as people used to say back then.
Re: Review: Sonic Colors Ultimate - The Best 3D Sonic Game Gets A Respectable Remaster
@Wesker Why would you say something so controversial yet so brave?
Re: Review: Sonic Colors Ultimate - The Best 3D Sonic Game Gets A Respectable Remaster
@Alpha008 You can blame Blind Squirrel instead.
Re: Review: Sonic Colors Ultimate - The Best 3D Sonic Game Gets A Respectable Remaster
@Fangleman32 There's Generations but you won't get it's Console/PC version on a Nintendo console
Re: Review: Sonic Colors Ultimate - The Best 3D Sonic Game Gets A Respectable Remaster
> The Blue Blur has starred in quite a few legitimately great games over the years, but he’s also been in just about as many clunkers that tanked his reputation. Sonic has especially struggled when it’s come to his forays into 3D environments
For crying out loud, would you guys and everyone in the gaming journalism NOT START a Sonic review with the same old "Sonic had a rough transition to 3D"? We have gone up 15 years after Sonic's actual lowest 3D point and yet this stuff STILL occures as if nothing's changed. How does anyone get paid for this?
Re: The Fan-Made 2D Metroid Prime Game Has Been Forced To Shut Down
Not surprised. Got too much media attention.
Re: Talking Point: How Much Would You Pay For A Mint Copy Of Super Mario Bros.?
I would buy it for one dollar.
Re: Feature: Zooming Through Sonic Colors: Ultimate And Getting The Switch Lowdown
@EriXz Not everyone owns a Wii and a copy of Colors these days.
Re: Takashi Iizuka Admits The Sonic 2022 Reveal Was Probably A Bit Too Early
@nocdaes I'll rather want Sonic to die then getting sold to another company like Nintendo.
Re: Takashi Iizuka Admits The Sonic 2022 Reveal Was Probably A Bit Too Early
@TheFrenchiestFry I appreciate you thinking that but it's not gonna happen.
Re: Takashi Iizuka Admits The Sonic 2022 Reveal Was Probably A Bit Too Early
Why turn back from the teaser and say it you revealed it "a tad bit too early"? Now everyone here are just going to assume it's going to be a repeat in history
Re: Rumour: Metroid Prime Trilogy For Switch Ready To Go, According To Industry Insider
As much as I like it to happen for real, this is all but a rumor which has been done over.
Re: Video: Are 2D Games Worth $60? Jon, Alex And Zion Share Their Own Thoughts
Does it really matter about games that aren't high budget 3D games, especially when it comes to 2D games? If we are getting a high budget 2D game from a company like Nintendo, of course it will cost 60 bucks.
Re: Best Sonic Games Of All Time
@everynowandben I did and stopped playing 1/4th of it's way. It wasn't good, much like all Pokemon. Sounds ridiculous but i'm not trying to convince everyone to play other games than Pokemon because people will still like this series.
Re: Best Sonic Games Of All Time
@Snatcher Right, you could have made your comment more clear then.
Re: Random: Mario's Speed Golf Would Look Absolutely Ridiculous In Real Life
Because...it will be absolutely ridiculous? Nobody with a right mind would play golf while running at the same time while everyone is knocking out eachother over who can get a hole first. But yeah, it's only a silly idea.
Re: Random: Super Mario Sunshine's FLUDD Shows Up In The New Mario Golf Game
Now that is a one cool easter egg. Sunshine 2 happening would be great but of course that won't happen easily.
Re: Best Sonic Games Of All Time
@everynowandben You gave Sword & Shield a 9/10, I don't think that makes you any better.
Re: Best Sonic Games Of All Time
@Snatcher Nowhere in the development did they used builds from a certain fangame. I assume you mean the Retro/Star Engine, which is Whitehead's own made engine and was also only used in 2 fangames, yes, but Mania does not use assets from any of them. Calling them "Sonic fans" is rather unprofessional, they are talented and professional developers who learned how to make games and just so happen to be big fans of Sonic.
Re: Best Sonic Games Of All Time
@Snatcher Never have I heard when Whitehead and his team worked on a fangame that was called Sonic Mania, Mania was created as a official game from the start of it's development and the devs weren't just brought in to SEGA's HQ because they felt like it.
Re: It's Official - Sonic The Hedgehog Is Now A VTuber
@PBandSmelly Pretty funny you say that, considering this is Nintendo Life of all.
Re: Best Sonic Games Of All Time
@everynowandben Sounds like you are playing Sonic games the wrong way.
Re: Best Sonic Games Of All Time
@Snatcher I'm sorry, "fan game"? Mania is a actual sold product by SEGA, it is a official game from bottom to top.
Re: Best Sonic Games Of All Time
Late here but the poll is quite unbalanced and misses on a few important titles (like Generations on consoles of course) and all of that is simply due to the fact that this poll includes Sonic games that are "available on Nintendo consoles", not to mention that users here are delusional and mostly do not care about Sonic, giving a few games there too high or too low place they deserve. The old retrospective reviews on certain games (like SA2B) add more to the problems of this said poll. At least they are generous to put Sonic 3 at #1 because anyone outside of being a Sonic fan would put Sonic 2 or Mania because that is what everyone perfers. Thanks but no thanks.
Re: Smash Bros. Celebrates Sonic's 30th With A Special Spirit Board Event
That's actually kinda cute and neat. Doesn't add much to represent Sonic but hey, still something for his 30th anniversary.
Re: Takashi Iizuka Suggests Sonic's 2022 Outing Will Be An "Advancement" Of Modern Sonic Games
@Chlocean Of course I am. I am just speaking with an opinion, because I am being honest if Game Grumps was EVER really funny.
Re: Takashi Iizuka Suggests Sonic's 2022 Outing Will Be An "Advancement" Of Modern Sonic Games
@FX29 It's kinda like as if you said ALL 3D Sonic games were mediocre, but yeah those are average. Also where Secret Rings at? Forgettable?
Re: Poll: What's The Best 2D Sonic Game?
@Snatcher No, it's not a bad thing, it's just that Sonic 3 doesn't give me any nostalgia even if it was my first Sonic game. I'm okay living that and it still makes me like Sonic 3.
Re: Poll: What's The Best 2D Sonic Game?
@Snatcher My first Sonic game was Sonic 3 actually, although I do not have any nostalgia from my 1st playthrough.
Re: Takashi Iizuka Suggests Sonic's 2022 Outing Will Be An "Advancement" Of Modern Sonic Games
@Marioracer That's understandable. Iizuka does try to maintain the quality of Sonic games, the big problem is which director he works with.
Re: Poll: What's The Best 2D Sonic Game?
3&K and Mania are undoubtedly the best. 2 is definitely better from 1 but it's not perfect and I hope people on this website acknowledge that.
Re: Takashi Iizuka Suggests Sonic's 2022 Outing Will Be An "Advancement" Of Modern Sonic Games
@DavidMac > In the 2D games they had creative level design where you were essentially zooming through tunnels, but it didn’t feel like tunnels, because you couldn’t fall off the Z axis.
...that is how 3D Mario was made for the same reason and all other 3D platformers. What Sonic makes it different?
Re: Takashi Iizuka Suggests Sonic's 2022 Outing Will Be An "Advancement" Of Modern Sonic Games
@Chlocean As if Game Grumps was funny to begin with.
Re: Takashi Iizuka Suggests Sonic's 2022 Outing Will Be An "Advancement" Of Modern Sonic Games
@Crockin Cash in, what? There weren't much platformers between the NES and the SNES era that were trying to compete against Mario, let alone succeeding it. Sonic was created, yes to rival Mario but he also showcased a distinct identity and appeal that made him unique unlike anything before it. He not only gave proof that platformers can be anything but "haha funny guy jumps on platforms" but also that, eventually, Mr. Jumpman won't be sitting long on his throne, someone will have to replace him, even if it's temporarily
Re: Takashi Iizuka Suggests Sonic's 2022 Outing Will Be An "Advancement" Of Modern Sonic Games
@FX29 Since when? 2006 and that's it? lol