Almost three years since Super Smash Bros. Ultimate first launched on Switch, the roster is finally complete, with Sora from Kingdom Hearts becoming the final fighter.
The character was revealed by series director Masahiro Sakurai today in what was his final presentation for the game. Sora will become available in-game from 18th October.
In all the commotion during the show, Sakurai also found time to reveal that three Kingdom Hearts games are headed to Switch, Steve and Alex are getting amiibo figures, and a new batch of Mii Fighter costumes which includes Doom Slayer.
Are you happy with the decision? Can you believe this is the end? Share all of your excited/happy/sad thoughts with us below.
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Dude lets gooo I was hoping it would be Sora
Not my choice, heck, not even played Kingdom Hearts, but happy that the wait is finally over, and we can put this speculating behind us. Happy for everyone who wanted Sora.
That's amazing! I wanted Captain toad, but growing up KH was my wife's favorite game so I'm sure she'll be excited. Haven't finished the video yet, but I am definitely excited to see his final smash.
Could've been Knack.
Meh, happy for Kingdom Hearts fans.
Well, at least it’s a much requested character! People will undoubtedly complain, but I can’t think of a better final fighter.
Good thing I never bought the DLC.
Doom Slayer was a costume with the lame pistol yeah because when I think of Doom Slayer I think of that hunk of junk, it’s not even in Eternal which is what they based the Slayer costume off of.
DISNEY IS IN SMASH THIS IS AMAZING HAHAHAHAHA
I'm so happy. FINALLY!
well, this is alright. Perhaps I shall try Kingdom Hearts now.
Master Chief, nooooooo!
Disney.Owns.Everything.....
Hooray, what a good pick!
Don't care what haters say. My boy is finally here!
I didn't think he could make it, but he did. A worthy final announcement.
Now we're done with Smash until the next one is announcend.
Well, we could play the game, but I don't think anyone buys Smash for that...
Sora is “finally here”
Yeah, they knew lol.
Can we get the kingdom hearts collection now?
We needed another swordfighter
Sora was my least-wanted character. But oh well...still happy for the fans! Smash Bros has created the reality of Sans vs Sora...and DOOM SLAYER.
Ugh. I hate everything about this character's design, and I have no interest in the Kingdom Hearts games. Who knows, maybe the internet isn't lying for once and there's actually something interesting about him or his games, but I'll still be forever disappointed that the DLC characters I paid good money for included so few first-party Nintendo characters.
Just glad it wasn’t Master Chief. And Sakurai is awesome, he’s a national treasure
Meh.
Cue the whining that the Kingdom Hearts collections aren't on Switch, lol.
History has been made. An end of an era.
What a huge disappointment..... Who looked at this game and said "We need more generic anime swordfighters"?
Fantastic pick. I didn't think this could happen, but I'm glad to be wrong.
Lmao sakurai is funny as hell. He's the only developer they'll let just do his own thing with these presentations. He totally misdirected this reveal! Good surprise
Meh, could never get into Kingdom Hearts
@Cheez I was hoping for Captain Toad too. As this was the final character in a huge roster I thought it was going to be a left field Nintendo pick like Piranha Plant was for the first dlc.
This just feels like a bit of an anti-climax
Wierd... Unless they announce the collection
A character from a series that doesn't feature on Nintendo platforms. Way. To. Go. Obviously, that terrible rhythm game doesn't count.
I was convinced it was going to be Master Chief. The timing is perfect with the new game coming out and it would be a good marketing move by Microsoft and a good sum of cash for Nintendo.
They hyped this up as something everybody needs to watch and surprise it’s both a utterly predictable choice and another one almost entirely associated with Playstation.
This is the one fighter other then tetris I really wanted, Its complete, I want nothing else from this game, In my opinion the best fighter to end on, the best trailer, Love you sak.
And there you have it, not my choice but I’m actually glad the whole who the next character will be is over. End of an era.
@SalvorHardin I wanted Doom Guy, but the Mii costume is fine with me. It would have been pretty difficult to make him kid friendly without losing his character, and the Mii costume reminds me of the little Doom Guy figures you find hidden in the 2016 game
Great character. I like it.
@Ferkner At least the Slayer mii got in there. Isabelle finally has her teammate.
Can't please everyone I guess.
I was hoping for Crash, Waluigi or Hollow Knight.
Glad I never bought a full fighters pass as I only ended up being interested in 2 charachters from each.
Wow it actually happened....O__O
I wanted either Master Chief or Doom Guy. But playing KH3 recently and I am happy with getting the most popular character for fans!
Disney x Nintendo... hm. did not see that coming to much. to bad for Waluigi.
I don't really care either way since I have never played a Kingdom Hearts game.
But he's popular, so I understand why he got it.
What I do think is kinda funny is that Square Enix now has four reps and three of them debuted on the PlayStation.
Either way, it's cool for Sora fans. I got my most wanted third party newcomer in the base roster with Simon Belmont.
oh man, another keyblade wielding fighter??
@Petew Yeeeeaaah, I was hoping for Crash too. But Sora is a fine choice, I'm just not too interested in him.
So what Nintendo games does he represent? I thought the main games have always been on playstation/xbox
Just as baffling as the joker and cloud additions
Lame af imo. I was really hoping for someone more my taste. I will only get mileage out of Banjo, Steve and the Plant out of all the DLC fighters
@geox30 I don't think most fans wanted another yet another generic anime swordfighter. No, this was a very vocal minority asking for him.
I am with you, Doomguy or Master Chief would have been far superior, far more relevant 3rd party picks.
Or..... I don't know...... Waluigi, the guy the vocal majority has been clamoring for?
Or old school Gannon? Or Kraid?
@Miyamotosan Dream Drop Distance was on 3DS, right? I dunno, they could announce ports of some games for Switch or something (I know more or less about the series, but I've never played it).
Well goodbye my switch and copy off smash time for Disney to roll in and ***** up nintendo.
@UltimateOtaku91 not really. Well in Ultimate's case at least.
We have Kingdom Hearts Melody of Memory, Persona 5 Strikers, FF7 on Switch
If Sora was in the works then why did they use a slot for Sephiroth? That's what? Four square enix characters.
I can understand the selection, and there was never any way SSBU would ever be able to include every fighter everyone wanted to see. But honestly I think the final slot would've been better served by Master Chief from Halo, for two main reasons: 1) where Sora is essentially yet another sword fighter, Master Chief utilizes the complete selection of attack types (he also melees and uses the Energy Sword and Gravity Hammer, though he favors ranged), and 2) it would've been the perfect time for a cross-promotion with Halo Infinite. In short, lots of extra $$$ for both Nintendo and Microsoft this Christmas season probaby just went by the boards.
As others have mentioned, it's also not surprising that it turned out to be a character from the Japanese side of the industry, and yet another from SquareEnix. It probably was easier for Sakurai to coordinate with fellow Japanese publishers, and maybe even more importantly, from their perspective Japan is their home market, after all.
But it is what it is, Not a terrible choice by any means, just not the best IMHO. If only there was just one. more. slot....
Not my pick, but real happy for all the fans who voted. And I just love Sakurai. His humor is so good. Such a good spirit! Gonna miss his presentations.
Never cared for Kingdom Hearts but if you're a KH fan all the more power to ya.
@Bluerangervegeta Sakurai, i guess.
@Bluerangervegeta Vocal minority? Top of the fighter poll?
@Bluerangervegeta I didn't want him, in fact I dislike Kingdom Hearts, but he was definitely requested. Ever since the Smash 4 era
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I truly hate Disney so can't say I care about this fighter at all but damn am I glad this is all over. I feel relief.
@KirbysAdventure By that logic Goku should have been in long ago.
This was the biggest team-up Nintendo and Microsoft fans could have had. Portable, console and Windows. Instead they gave into the Mouse (and China)
Why are there a drove of pigs flying up ahead?
Lmao another counterattack BRAVO SAKURAI
Does anyone know how much it costs to add all the fighters?
So we have a kingdom hearts character but no actual kingdom hearts games. A Tekken character and no actual Tekken games... Yeah this really great😞
I have no horse in the race as I stopped playing Smash a while back, but to me it’s another sword fighter with all the Disney connection scrubbed out.
But then I’m of the opinion the next Smash should change mechanics (and make it easier to see your character) and cut the roster dramatically and improve some of the core characters moves.
The mad lads did it. They somehow got Disney to give them the keys to Kingdom Hearts.
@AngelFox
Haha sorry Halo is damage goods and very much irrelevant due to the return of fast paced FPS that don’t cripple your movement and limit you to 2 guns.
People whining about the reveal of a dlc fighter who is being added to a game with a roster of 80+.
This is why I hate gamers.
At least it's not Goofy... hee yuk!
KINGDOM HEARTS 3 FOR SWITCH CONFIRMED, YES
I'm so happy it was Sora, out of all the last big-name third-party characters.
@Bluerangervegeta I can't take you serious. I hate Disney but to conflate sjws and Christians and Disney. Lol Disney is NOT about any kind of social justice. They only care about ppl's money and money only.
@UltimateOtaku91 Several KH games were only on Nintendo platforms at the time, like GBA, DS and 3DS. Most were remade for the collections, like Dream Drop Distance, but the DS one is still only on there.
Sorry Geno fans, but I think this closes the book on him ever getting in.
Assuming all four make it back to Smash 6, then that is four reps from Square Enix.
Very funny how many people are unaware of some of the KH games that were released exclusively on Nintendo systems
Damn what a downer for me. So my fav DLC character this time is plant followed by Banjo. Good thing I didn't buy the fighter pass.
I’m itching to be petty by copying and pasting comments from prior articles on how this could never happen 😹
"Generic anime swordfighter"
Uh, no. This is an incredible choice, and probably very difficult to pull off.
Great add. The love and requests for Sora are very warranted.
So the best thing to come out of today's announcement is that it's the LAST Smash Bros. Ultimate DLC announcement. No more Directs (seldom as we get them) with a quarter of their time taken up by the latest one.
So the obvious question is what's going to fill the void. Hopefully Mario Kart 9 is coming next year, because don't look now, but the Switch is getting longer in the tooth by this point, especially now that Sony and especially Microsoft are starting to get their acts together with the PS5/XBox Series X/S. Mario Party will be a nice multiplayer game for this winter, but unless Nintendo has DLC planned for it (and they've never done so for a MP title so far), they're going to need something BIG for that multiplayer slot in the near future.
@Miyamotosan actually there's more Kingdom Hearts games on Nintendo than in PlayStation not including rereleases. Just not any on the Nintendo Switch and no I don't count the garbage rhythm games.
wish we finally got an interesting dlc stage (or simple and clean, or goofy and donald, or...) but hey
@kurtasbestos couldn't agree more. I was way more interested in Nintendo character than third parties.
i want to be upset. i really do. but at the same time, i expected this a mile away. rip doomguy
Serious moral problems with Disney, but great job Sakurai. Guy deserves an awesome retirement when he decides.
@Alexface It's just been announced...
Cloud versions oh boy here we go the chefs kiss 🤣
@Ulysses its cloud you know
I like how Sakurai introduced Sora in the game without adding in any Disney cameos/contents to the game, not even Sora's own party members Goofy and Donald made it in whether as Mii costumes, spirits, assist trophies, or just cameos in general. This protect Super Smash Bros. Ultimate from any future Disney licensing conflicts on the game. The fact that it tie in well with the first character reveal trailer back in 2017-2018 and his company name is interesting as well. Still I'm surprise Sakurai didn't include Roxas as an echo fighter just for the fun of it since he's basically just Sora's Nobody in Kingdom Hearts.
@Elvie Honestly, I wonder how much Disney was involved given everything shown was created by Square Enix.
I at least expected Donald and Goofy to cameo in his Final Smash.
@SalvorHardin oh boy, DAMN IT
I don't mind.
What the actual *****
@Link_of_Hyrule how many kingdom hearts games are on nintnedo? Playstation had kingdom hearts 1, 2, 3 and birth by sleep
I really do not like kingdom hearts, but I'm excited for all those KH fans out there who kept the faith. All my dream characters made it in ages ago, so i'm def not salty about any of these reveals. in fact i think these fighter packs have been incredibly strong. good run. I'm gonna enjoy smash while it's here, because it could be a decade(or never!) before we get another one
Awesome, there were a handful of characters that I would have been happy with (Crash Bandicoot, Waluigi, Spyro, Phoenix Wright etc.) but very happy that they have gone with Sora. Great choice!
@UltimateOtaku91 and KH for switch has been announced via cloud
The amount of money they had to pay just to have the Mickey Ears in there could have been spent on a whole third fighter pass worth of more relevant characters. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't completely disgusted.
This isn't a 'hoes mad' situation, its a horrible waste of money for a franchise that hasn't even sold one fourth the amount of something like Just Dance.
I never once thought sora was going to be added because it just didn't seem possible lmao. This is pretty fitting for the final DLC IMO. I've gotta get around to playing the kingdom hearts games at some point.
@UltimateOtaku91 Dunno about every version, but there was ReCoded, Days, Chain of Memories and I believe Dream Drop.
Ah yes Sora. A character that has yet to drop a proper numbered Kingdom Hearts game on a Nintendo console, and yet, more fitting for a Nintendo console. Happy for the fans. Better luck next time Travis Touchdown.
@Caryslan Sakurai has sworn that the reason Goku couldn't be in smash is because it is reserved for gaming characters only. If he throws in Goofy or Donald, the blatant hypocrisy will blow up the internet.
As good as the man is he isn't above lying (Ridley is too big and scale matters even though Pikachu is over half the height of Charizard, ect), but if he lies about this it will piss off way too many people.
Oh boy... More Anime swords....
A decent, solid choice tbf but I would have preferred a Nintendo character as the final character of this incredible rosta.
Not bothered too much about KH but fair play to the fans.
Looks good to add a Disney one to array of third party characters in the game too, I suppose.
Not a bad character to end on. Not my personal most wanted pick, but good for those that wanted it.
Genuinely glad it's not Waluigi, Goku, Shrek or any other ridiculous picks. I don't care for Kingdom Hearts, but this is good fan service for the people that wanted Sora.
Honestly a good way to end it
@Zag_Man
I wonder too. I think they should change the basic gameplay somehow for the possible next game to make it interesting even with smaller roster. Hopefully, they also change the director. I think Sakurai has earned his rest from the series.
@AugustusOxy Oh yeah, a character from Just Dance would have been much more fitting, of course.
@UltimateOtaku91 And KH 2.8 as well. Nintendo have only had 3 IIRC, and one of them was completely remade for PlayStation too (Chain of Memories).
There's also Recoded too but that was originally for phones so if rereleases don't count, as Link of Hyrule said, then that shouldn't count either.
@MeloMan they just announced KH games on Switch via cloud
It's cool that they listened to the poll, I'm happy because of the KH ports. Maybe, I'll finish one now.
I’m surprised no Disney characters in it, not even Mickey, that seems like a slam dunk marketing thing
YEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!
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The door for potential prospects has been unlocked!
Are all characters playable or can you only play some of them under a limited time?
@Octane Obviously saving Knack for PSASBR2.
I thought this day will never come. My goodness. Kingdom Hearts fans are getting real good tonight.
Sora was the most requested character in the ballot, so I'm happy for everyone that wanted him! And what a special way indeed to conclude Smash Ultimate.
I never played Kingdom Hearts games, but I know they are really loved out there. Cheers everyone
This was an amazing reveal , and damn what an roster does smash contain.
I was hoping for Crash Bandicoot, but this is a fitting addition even though I never really played Kingdom Hearts. Maybe I'll finally play them when they hit the Switch.
@Miyamotosan DS and 3DS has games which at the time we’re exclusive to those systems. Sora definitely has a history with Nintendo, this isn’t another Joker situation!
We are gonna have to practice copyright law to see how Sakurai was able to bring the likes of characters, third party characters and Sora in Smash.
We do not deserve this man.
Also fitting seeing Sora in here and also the final character since he travels to multiple worlds.
My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.
Yeah OK, a pretty understandable addition that will probably make a lot of fans happy. I'm not a big fan of Smash although I've enjoyed a lot of aspects of Ultimate and do like the celebration aspect. Personally would have preferred a really left-field choice to finish up. Like the level one boss from R-Type or something like that. But maybe that's just me.
Glad I didn't waste my money on the second pass. Overall very disappointed and the selection with not a single character I wanted/requested. I also despise the Kingdom Hearts franchise and the Walt Disney Corporation so......still not buying it.
Holy crap, I always thought he'd be in my never ever list. I just wish it was kh2 sora, but this is amazing
Was hoping for the Doom Slayer, won't lie so I'll admit this announcement was dissapointing.
Glad they kept the disney rep as low as possible.
At the very least the stage looks cool.
Welp this was my last smash game any way. Happy for you sora people! Congrats. Nintendo… i’ve enjoyed you since i was 5 now im 31 with 5boys. None of my sons even touch the switch ages 2,3, 6,11 and im over nintendo. Thanks for the good memories and some enjoyable games!
Ps if you have a xbox and gamepass kindom hearts is free to download. Why pay full price for an old game?….
Ya’ll enjoy!
@NoLife Are you talking about DLC characters? They're yours to play forever once you buy them or the corresponding Fighters Pass.
The only thing I don't like about this choice is the fact that Disney's connected, but even then it seems minimal. I don't want to think about the royalties they wanted just for having Mickey's emblem on Sora's Keyblade. The fact that they cut Goofy and Donald out of the Station of Awakening kind of confirms that, lol
I enjoy Kingdom Hearts, and barring the silly writing, I think it's worthy of joining Smash. Sora being the most requested fighter makes sense, and Kingdom Hearts was always pretty popular. Plus, he looks fun, so I'm looking forward to him.
Not mad with Sora but I really thought a Dark Souls rep was coming when the single dwindling flame was on screen.
@Witchfynder64 dont let this ruin your day
I'm a little disappointed. Not because Sora is the last fighter, but because they didn't do a little extra for the final big update. Like being able to rearrange the character select screen however you want, or something like that.
Anyway Sora is not my pick at all but I'm glad for his fans at least!
@Bluerangervegeta lmao you think any of that had an acab messaging? That would be too sick of them.lolol. You should see where Disney puts it's money. Anti climate and other non progressive missions. Just because they dabble in slight pandering that's not even good, nuanced, or deep, does not mean they are sjw. They are a company and a company cares only about its button line.
Honestly I didn't really have any character I wanted after we got Pyra/Mythra. I was content with pretty much anyone but while watching the presentation I shed a tear for Sora, not sure if it was happiness or sadness that the roster is done but either way I'm glad for all those who wanted Sora and maybe even deep down I'm happy he made it as well.
I love it! The presentation had me giddy since I saw the Mickey shape attached to the keyblade. Easily the most hype any of the DLC fighters has given me. Only thing I didn't love is that I have to rebuy that music game to get that one track. (Got all the Kingdom Hearts games on PS4)
"wahhh another sword fighter"
If a giant key constitutes as a sword to you then so should a hammer, a bat, a golf club and the other stuff characters hold. Suddenly basically everyone is a sword fighter according to the whiners.
Out of all the DLC I've only really loved Piranha Plant and Hero but I've enjoyed playing them all and I'm not upset about the money I spent. They did great work. I hope the deluxe version on the Super Switch has a few more additions, it really needs Spyro, Crash, Rayman and Eggman to feel like truly everyone is here.
@Octane Knack already has PlayStation
Smash BruhsAll Star's Battle Royale. Leave the abandoned dude to his abandoned shell of a copycat project. No need to drag him through the Smash fanbase. He's been through enough.@javiboy2 just a game not that serious to cry over..
Sora is a good third party rep for the game. He clearly fits the Nintendo theme and he is the most requested one. So I'm happy.
Shame someone told me days ago that Sora was leaked. I'm not excited about it anyway, but shame about yet another major leak.
@BanjoPickles People are entitled to their opinion even if they payed for the fighter's pass hoping to get a character they wanted.
I know it's not nice to hate on something or toxically express their negative opinions online, but where do you get off telling people they can't be excited for something they're not interested in?
@Bluerangervegeta yep. Been playing smash since i was 10 im 31 we used to want goku back on the n64!
Sora may have been the perfect pick as Smash Ultimate's final DLC. He has consistently ranked as one of the most-wanted characters for almost 2 decades now, and there's value in being able to collaborate with Disney to any degree. Sakurai's company also being named Sora is a funny quirk to come out of this, too. This is a clear win for Nintendo, Smash, and the fans. Sakurai really came through.
Those complaining lack perspective. Anyone who has been on Smashboards in the last 20 years knows how much the Smash community wanted Sora. This is Sakurai's farewell gift to Smash's biggest fans, and any insinuation that this is a failure is hilariously ignorant.
@PickledKong i do haha!!
For the first time, saving the best for last, Smash has a fighter I've been waiting for... years. The most Alex-pleasing addition ever (see my username).
Also, I know flexing is rude, but for all the times I've been on the receiving end of this GIF... well, you know the drill.
Sora is a great choice! So kingdom hearts collection confirmed for switch then? It's kinda strange to have sora when no main games from the series are on Nintendo yet. Still need to finish KH 3.
Not for me, but I hope in the next SSB installation they continue this kind of multi franchise support.
Incredibly meh. Never cared for KH games at all. Hopefully the next Smash will focus more on Nintendo and less on 3rd parties.
@jtmnm Respective on how The Walt Disney Corporation is garbage.
Regardless if you wanted Sora or not (I personally didn't), this is probably the perfect way to send off this game. Sora makes sense.
While Sora wasn't my top choice personally, I'm still excited that he was added.
Well this was certainly wayyyy better than Byleth in smash. This is HOW you close the final fighter pass
You're either pleased with this choice or you're not: there's no middle ground.
Oh god no...we'll never hear the end of it now...
I actually would have cared a lot more before the KH series itself went up in flames :/
Oh well, could have been worse.
I appreciate how the only overt Disney things are the copyright notice and keychain. Sakurai kept it limited to gaming, and that's laudable.
Amazing day for Kingdom Hearts fans, congrats to them.
Not to say I dislike KH but, yeah, this belongs to the real ones.
RIP 10/11-year-old me getting forever lost in Traverse Town.
Well, I guess he chose Sora for last because it's also his company's name and to match the announcement of the games. Nice for the fans, as he has been speculated to be in the roster for years.
What's next for Smash Bros? Of course, Nintendo will want it in the next system in the future. Will Sakurai make a new one or will Ultimate be ported with some adjustments?
@Miyamotosan So Dream Drop Distance doesn’t count either i guess?!
@russell-marlow
*sigh
I don't recall saying that people can't express their precious feelings. However, that doesn't mean that I can't express my absolute contempt for gamers who whine whenever they don't 100% get what they wanted. Toddlers do that, not fully-developed adults. If these people had a lick of common sense, they would have held off on spending money on the fighter's pass until either A). the entire roster had been revealed, or B). a fighter was announced that would justify the purchase.
There are 30+ million Smash Bros. players, and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if a quarter of them expected to be catered to. "Where do I get off?" Oh, I'm sorry that I expect (wish?) gamers to act like adults and not entitled brats. They spent money? Yeah, and so did the people who are excited, or those who are actually saying "good for those who are excited."
Nom d'un chien! Geno got betrayed!
...the sad thing is that I believe that Sora was better off at PlayStation All Stars. ...then again, I wanted Rouen in PlayStation All Stars, too.
I was hoping it would have been Sakurai, Iwata or Miyamoto, or someone whose inclusion might have been more significant or diverse in terms of humanoid skin tone, but I guess I was expecting too much from Smash.
@Bluerangervegeta The Developer who wanted to secure the popular character that has the same name as his Development Team.
But, then, I wanted them to go full Chaos Mode and put in Mike Jones from StarTropics, confusing the hecc out of the Japanese fanbase.
Setting aside issues with present-day Disney as well as the fact this character's release is being used as a shameless marketing tool for several different games (Cloud gaming streaming service announcement and Smash DLC bonus for save data from a game that has zero ties to Smash or Nintendo, really?).
Will the addition of yet another long-ranged, weapon-protected, counter-protected character, actually benefit the roster in terms of the game being fun for anyone not playing as Sora? Who then also, by design, appears to have more broken aerial capabilities than Smash 4 Bayonetta?
As a side note for anyone who does not understand why the constant inclusion of sword and sword-like characters is so disliked by so many players. What makes weapon-armed characters particularly annoying to deal with in Smash is the weapons have no hitbox to damage the characters in question. In short, it's an infinite use zoning/meat-shield tool. At best, you can interrupt the attack. Everybody loves playing against campers, right?
Also, the main significance of characters with ridiculous aerial not working well in terms of Smash mechanics, is both getting combo'd off the top of the stage at very low damage percentages (possibly from one combo starting at 0%), and being unable to knock the characters off a ledge, is pretty annoying.
On a personal note, I find it super weird that they didn't choose literally ANY first-party Nintendo character as the sending off.
@Miyamotosan what are you talking about? Half of the KH games have been on a Nintendo platform through 2 decades.
Not for me, so some Money to spend elsewhere.
HELL YEAH!!! Sora was my third choice after Waluigi and Rayman. I'm super happy.
@BanjoPickles you’re not wrong, but it’s not like this is new behavior. I don’t think the gaming crowd has ever once collectively acted in a mature sense. You can hem and haw about fully grown adults acting childish but keep in mind that a ton of children play video games and it’s not unlikely that some kiddos are quite vocal on the internet.
@Bluerangervegeta I guess you missed the part where Sakurai SPECIFICALLY said he was the most requested character in the ballot for the WiiU?
I'm actually kinda stoked that Sora made it in. Mind you I don't pay any attention to rumors or leaks. So it was surprising to me. That being said the music is mostly the reason I enjoyed the KH series. Now what I really want is a full physical release with EVERYTHING!
I like when Disney is involved with anything gaming, the community is up in arms. But they REALLY LOVE their marvel movies.
Even though he was one of my top picks, it feels so surreal that he's in!
This is like Banjo all over again where it just didnt feel like they could overcome the legal hurdles, but here they are!
@oconnoclast Ah the lame and unfounded entitled argument. It's not entitled its being a consumer/customer and showing dissatisfaction with a product given to you. I understand not every character in the world I wanted is going to make it, that is why I made a list (examples Ryu Hayabusa, Crash, Bonk, Leon and so on) however the factor not a single 1 out of the 5 characters in the DLC is a extreme meh (with Sora/Disney crap being the turd cherry on top). It's like going to your favorite steakhouse and you ask for a steak with the restaurant instead of giving you wanted you get fish or chicken with losers saying "You should be thankful you got anything at all". As much as people have the right to get excited, people have the right NOT to be happy or except what is given. Sure be reasonable and not obsessive (don't harass anybody) but you have to right show dissatisfaction especially with corporations.
@AugustusOxy the epitome of what internet “disgust” looks like: a whole lot of venomous statements based on 0% facts.
Gameplay as expected looks like the typical Smash anime sword character archetype that people complained for years about. Even has the down B counter.
Stage is nice though. Music though is far less to be desired with 9 non arranged tracks and needing the 10th from buying another game. At least it’s not Cloud release bad.
It's a good final choice.
Sakurai legit deserves a Nobel Peace Prize.
@Gundam_Warrior the stake house argument makes no sense and shows your sense of entitlement. You did not “order” characters on the roster, that’s why you are not getting the ones you like. What you are getting is something that the majority of people voted to have. But i can see how that concept is very difficult to grasp for certain types of people.
But what about MY favorite character?
Loving all the salt. I'll add my own: the lack of a physical release for the KH collection is a real kick in the nutsack.
Really enjoyed the reveal trailer. The way he floated out of the keyhole portal was really magical. His base moves are a little underwhelming, but he seems a fun character to have in the game, and the fact he topped the players' vote makes it absolutely appropriate.
Wouldn't have been my pick, but I'm absolutely getting that second fighters pass.
Thank you Sakurai. Outstanding work.
@MarkyVigoroth The reason why there won't be another PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale is because Sony doesn't had memorable mascots and only rely on mostly third party characters which Sony doesn't want to waste too many money on. This is why the roster for PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale is lackluster and why beloved mascots like Crash, Spyro, Klonoa, Lara Croft, Duke Nukem, Cloud Strife, Ryu Hayabusa, Croc, Jin Kazama, Mitsurugi, Ezio, Earthworm Jim, Viewtiful Joe, Sol Badguy, Maximo, Brave Fencer Musashi, Aya Brea, and Rayman were not included in the game as each one would cost Sony an arm and a leg. Remember as rich a company as Sony is, only the gaming division pay for the inclusions, the other divisions at Sony want nothing to do with the game and would not help kickstart the game and its potential sequels.
I'll be dammed,
They gave me exactly what I wanted; A SURPRISE!!!
@black_sabbath Not necessarily. I would imagine there are many, like myself, who isn’t over the moon about it only because of no emotional attachment to KH or Sora and who aren’t upset about it either. I’ll try him out. If I like him, I’ll use him. If not, there are 80+ other fighters to choose from
@Gundam_Warrior As much as you have a right to be disappointed, people have just as much of a right to make fun of you for being a party pooper.
Sora has been a highly requested character since Kingdom Hearts launched in 2002. That's almost 20 years, and you're essentially doing the equivalent of crying about how upset you are in a room filled with people universally celebrating Sora's inclusion.
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GREEAAT!!!! I knew it was Sora of Kingdom Hearts like ultimate fighter in Smash Bros.! I told myself about that!
@jtmnm
No I will not consume product and be excited for next product.
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@TrixieSparkle Very deep analysis I will say
All I have to say is
no reimu
@Gundam_Warrior Your steakhouse analogy doesn’t even come close to being the same as this.
@Gundam_Warrior You're too busy crying to read, apparently. Do you think you look smart right now? Everyone's dunking on you because it's easy.
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@Bluerangervegeta A vocal minority? Samurai said he won the Smash Ballot by a landslide. I also wouldn't call him a generic swordfighter when he magic and fights with a giant key.
@kurtasbestos They were never going to be mainly Nintendo characters dude.
Now give us the real kingdom hearts to switch, not that joke with melody of whatever.
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I wanted Solaire d'Astora from, Dark Souls...would have made that Amiibo useful!
I wish it was Waluigi.
@Gundam_Warrior
@TrixieSparkle Honestly, I find projectile heavy characters to be spammed by campers way more than swordfighters.
Wait...
Sora Sakurai...
IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!
@Yomogi What’s your pfp from?
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@BanjoPickles Okay, sir. Good on you for that.
But it would be nice if some people don't gaslight others for not liking/getting excited for something they don't like either as I keep seeing happen most of the time. I'm not sure, but I think it happens as frequently as people who express how they don't like so-and-so and they get mocked for it. That definitely doesn't make things better, does it?
And yes, we all know Sakurai and his team worked very hard and he needs to absolutely get all the praise and time off he deserves. However, that's where it ends. After that, anyone, as a mature individual, are free to express whether they like or dislike the thing they were sort-of promised and some can fairly constructively criticize. Responses will vary from all different types of people. Many have different expectations more so than others. But that's how it goes and I hope more people can be respectful in that regard if some things don't turn out even.
@AugustusOxy The most requested fighter for n the ballot wasn't relevant? Lol
@Gundam_Warrior The one lashing out is you. The traffic line was uncalled for and makes you look like the one who is being irrational. It's fine if you don't like the dlc, but don't call other people children or tell them to harm themselves.
@AtlanteanMan As a fan of both I concur sir.
@Bluerangervegeta
Oh, yes they did! They mentioned it in the presentation that they had a survey during the Wii U days that unveiled Sora as the most wanted character. Even NintendoLife's poll from yesterday unveiled the exact same thing.
Meh, not enthused for this at all and won’t be buying it, but oh well. Still been cool to see so many different characters added.
I think I have seen this character on the boxes for all those games I have no interest in playing. Someone will enjoy this, not me, but I wasn't buying the dlc anyway. I have the characters that I recognize in the main game. No loss to me.
@Snaplocket But you're discussing a game made by a third party company though even if it's a Nintendo game.
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To quote Kevin Sorbo,
"DISAPPOINTED!!"
@NIN10DOXD
Agreed, but there is a large overlap of weapon-wielding characters in the roster that also have long-ranged projectiles (Link, Young Link, Byleth, Simon, Richter, Pyra, Cloud, Robin, Pit, Dark Pit, Mii Swordfighter, and now Sora, off the top of my head).
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sora has been my most wanted character since i started following smash with ultimate’s reveal…so needless to say i’m more than happy with him being the final fighter
"Mr. Sakurai, we have a list here of all of the most-requested characters from fans over the past decade, let's just take a look and - "
"First, eliminate any who are not humanoid anime characters who wield swords."
"Yeah, but that's like 98% of the list and - "
"My will be done."
@FNL He probably really did win. He won the Nintendo Life poll and I think he won older ones the site had ran in the past.
YES. I haven't mentioned it much but Sora has been one of my most wanted since the mid 2000s. =D
What kind of Mickey Mouse operation is this?
@NIN10DOXD
I'm not even that annoyed with Sora, because I do agree that I've seen his name requested for a long time, I'll concede that this one makes sense, but my god, the amount of anime characters that all have the same hair cuts, faces and weapons in this game is a bit much. You have enough of them to do a spin-off fighting series. Nintendo alone has such a rich history that they could have drawn from over many of the others.
Glad I never bought the second pass. Not a single character I would pay for. What a waste.
Sakurai is Iron Man, and we're all Pepper Potts:
"You can rest now."
@d-slice
Sakurai is Jarvis. His team is Iron Man.
I can't deny feeling let down by yet another commercial pick, but it's a business after all...
I'm happy for the many people who wanted Sora, and glad Nintendo gamers will at least now have a chance to play some of the KH games. I've never tried any of them.
@Teksetter Commercial pick? They said he was the top most requested fighter in the poll. This is definitely one for fans.
Ugh. Another sword fighter? Wow. I wanted someone else from Fire Emblem.
Meh... never got into these games, so this means nothing to me 😂
YESSSSSS, WE WON GUYS, THE MOST WANTED CHARACTER IS IN
despite KH not being able to connect to most nintendo fans, the team did a great job laying out popular picks from all kinds of categories. wild picks like joker, steve and sora that no one would take seriously. personal picks like ridley, king k rool, and banjo for nintendo fans. traditional fighters like terry and kazuya
with limited slots to pick from they did a great job with the variety. what a wild ride
Not my first pick but better Sora over "Master Chief" or "Doom Guy". Sora admittedly does fit the roster better and its fair to say he's earned his place.
I don't play Smash anymore anyway - so this isn't all that hype for me. Im getting swept up in the general buzz around twitter etc but for me this isn't something to scream about. Hopefully if there's a next Smash game, gameplay goes back to what Wii U and 3DS enjoyed and I'll be able to play all the time like I used to.
@Harmonie
So Sakurai-san said about the survey, and many people in Japan do adore Disney and the KH series, but even so I'd say sending the final invite to a Square-Enix-Disney character rather than someone first-party is indeed a calculated business move.
Please consider I'm using characters like ROB, Piranha Plant, and Duck Hunt Dog for comparison, which were fun tributes to Nintendo history.
@Teksetter I mean the vast majority of the fighters pass has been third party. I would have rather saw much more focus on first party, but it's no surprise that they went out with a third party. The fact of the matter is that Sora was highly requested and also thematically fits perfectly alongside Nintendo characters.
Better we go out with Sora than some random third party bulky fighting dude that has little history with Nintendo at all. The fighter's pass unfortunately had characters like that.
I would have expected the retro character to be in the base game, not the final character from the DLC.
That was bottom of my list simply because Disney is involved. I wouldn't expect them to allow anything they have their grubby fingers in to join Smash.
@geox30 I domt appreciate the censorship on this site (heaven forbid anybody have a bad thing to say about Disney I guess) so I will just bow out by reminding you and everyone else that was a WIIU survey. Since then we have gotten Joker, DQXI Luminary, Byleth, Chrom, Roy, Child Link, Corrin, Cloud, and who knows how many other generic anime swordfighters that a normie wouldn't know from any other. I think it's safe to say most current SSB fans wouldn't have Sora in a top 10, let alone theie top pick.
Sora is beyond redundant in that regard, and historically Kingdom Hearts isn't even remotely as important as many other franchises aside from the "muh Dis-knay" aspect of it.
Argue all you want but it's a crappy decision that just reeks of jumping on the Disney bandwagon and nothing more. Like I said before..... Doomguy, classic Gannon (Ganondorf STILL doesn't have representation true to himself..... A bulky Captain Falcon clone that doesn't use any of his in game moves doesn't count), Kraid, Waluigi, even Crash/Spyro/Master Chief would have been more fitting. At this point SSBU feels more like an anime brawler than a videogame celebration, especially for people who aren't fans of JRPGs.
I mean I love Fire Emblem maybe more than anyone else here and even I have had enough.
I strongly suspect Soras inclusion is either a paid adveet by Disney or Nintendo jumping on the Disney bandwagon. Either way it kinda sucks, SSBU deserves better. When it comes time to port this game and they have to reskin all the 3rd party licensed characters it's gonna be a nightmare trying to repurpose these overabundant anime-esque characters.
I do hope the DLC packs go on sale though. Between amiibo and all the fighters that is some sims4 level price tag.
Felt kinda sad that SMT didn't had any representation (jack bros joining smash bros) excluding joker from persona, but I understand the reason of bringing KH to Nintendo. It was overall a good move (too bad the games will be cloud version)
@Bluerangervegeta
Chill out dude, it's games we are talking about!
@Kreko Sora uses a key instead of a sword!!
@geox30 Saying "Chill out" and "it's just games" to a well thought out, logical rebuttal just proves that the pro Sora camp doesn't have a leg to stand on. Which I knew, but still.......
I am logging out before I get banned for Disney bashing or some nonsense. Later.
@Bluerangervegeta this may come as a surprise but there are many anime-looking games, and there are especially many anime-looking games popular in japan (lol on calling your own argument well-thought out and logical, also?)
Now I finally have a favorite fighter. 😁
I had no wishes as to who it had to be. I think this is a pretty cool choice.
I love it when people complain about another sword fighter in a game where over half of the roster is brawlers (fist fighters).
@Miyamotosan KH Chain of Memories, 358/2 Days, Re:Coded and Dream Drop Distance are ALL on nintendo systems. That you haven't played them it's a different thing
@Bluerangervegeta
First of all, I didn't disagree with you. I also wanted someone else, as probably many did. But I think you need to manage your anger issues.
@Bluerangervegeta @fafonio @NIN10DOXD Sorry, logged out and saw I forgot to tag you. See my response here:. https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2021/10/super-smash-bros-ultimates-final-fighter-is-kingdom-hearts-sora#comment6585511
Tl;Dr That was a WiiU survey, we have had literally over half a dozen anime swordsmen added since then. It's very safe to say that opinions changed since then and very few people wanted another generic anime swordsman. The overwhelming consensus is the game has too many of them already.
@Kreko yeah he is a keyblade fighter, a keyblade is much stronger than a sword !!!!
@Meteoroid
Doesn't matter to the complainers. They see a sword like object and they pronounce it a sword fighter
I know there's a lot of love for Kingdom Hearts, but as a latecomer to the series, it didn't really do much for me. Happy for those who were wanting this, though.
@Bluerangervegeta Lol you're getting mad over nothing.
Its finally not a sword fighter but a KEY fighter 😂 wining people.
Thanks sakurai, i am not a kingdom hearts player, but i like the character. So congrats to the fans. Will def download him.
It's finally over. Go out and get some rest Sakurai, maybe play some Nickelodeon brawl.
@Kreko if you look at the tip of the weapon you can see its a key tho, a key that is a blade too, a keyblade, sora is the first keyblade fighter in the game
Waluigi got shafted again, but it's Sora so I can't even be mad.
Boo!!! I was looking for an excuse to play the game again, and this isn't it. As a Nintendo fan, I barely who know who this character is and they took the last spot. I'm done here, hope the next game is good.
I like it save the most requested character for the biggest surprise thats great. You couldn’t deny though that if they changed up the dlc list a bit (think crash bandicoot, spyro or master chief over blyeth or pyra and mythra) sora would have had a better reception. Happy for everyone whos excited though
Ok, I would rather have Donald Duck.
@Kreko damn dude, i just pointed you were wrong, its okay, there are some sword fighters in kingdom hearts like cloud and sephiroth, but sora isnt one of them
@Octane
"Knack"?
That's a terrible choice.
@Kreko do you even know what a sword is?
@YusseiWarrior3000 No. I always hated Sora, and there are so many other superior choices, it's ridiculous.
Meh, this was overhyped. When they promote the hell out of the final Smash character like this you kind of expect it to be someone special that celebrates the game/series. Sora is great, but doesn't quite live up to those expectations.
@DrDaisy It's not a terrible choice if you're a fan of Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, Tetsuya Nomura, and Squaresoft. Kingdom Hearts was the final game made by Squaresoft before they merge with Enix hence why Sora was the final DLC fighter for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate on a merging console. Kingdom Hearts itself is a merging game series sharing assets between Final Fantasy and Disney. It's not a terrible choice, it's a wise choice as evidence by the ballot and request.
@PickledKong This is missing the point. Yes, Sora is a popular character, what I'm saying is that Sora doesn't have a "grand finale" sort of feel to him, he just feels like a regular old DLC character we could've gotten at any point before now. What I'm saying was that with them making a big deal out of the last character, they raised the expectation that it would be someone more special and it wasn't, so Nintendo and Sakurai flat out overhyped this announcement.
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Im happy for those who wanted him i guess but damn did I want the botw champions.
@PickledKong unfortunately nothing about kingdom hearts interests me at all. I don’t even know which one I tried playing way back when (had to fight Cerberus from Hercules if I recall) and the whole experience was just so lame and not enjoyable.
@CartoonDan Based.
I might start complaining that Square-Enix has too many reps, but I'm happy for everyone who initially voted for Sora, and I'm happy that Doomguy takes the mantle as the final Mii costume.
Plus, I finally get to say that Sora is in a game developed by Sora Ltd.
@Bolt_Strike Who would be a "grande finale" character?
That's very vague, if anything I'd say sora at least links smash to the richest company in the world (disney) as a final sponsor. That's pretty big for them.
Only thing I can think of is waluigi just because the internet would exploded from memes, but other than that I don't think anyone wanted him seriously as a final rep to a franchise already in smash.
@Araquanid Someone that celebrates the game or series. For example, Master Hand or Sakurai himself. Or maybe throw the fans a bone and do Waluigi.
@Bolt_Strike That wouldn't really be too exciting since its not a rep, or even a new to smash addition. Heck there's already mods for them that function just not online.
What people want is a new series rep (and not fire emblem), characters who's franchises haven't been in smash or thought could never make it.
Sora fills that (getting anywhere close to disney without selling your soul is hard), just not for those hoping it was somebody else obv. Only complaint I have (i never touched KH btw and never bought smash DLC period), is his moveset looks really bland, so something more original like a zoner doomguy or stance changer (Ratchet and Clank?) would've been more interesting. He still doesn't make me want to play smash with its terrible netcode.
@PickledKong crash bandicoot or spyro ez pz
Should of been Big Chungus
@Araquanid So kind of you to speak for others with your psychic abilities, it's great that you're able to read others' minds and know that they wouldn't like that just because you don't.
Gotta give the 10 dollar bet to my brother now lmao
@Bolt_Strike No problem, I gained that ability from being apart of more than 1 community.
I despise anything Disney touches and this is no exception. Has Square even released KH on Switch other than that lame ass rhythm game? What a lame choice. LMAO
@PickledKong Okay sure. It's a bad character for the series, Disney is terrible and everything they make is bland and for little children that enjoy a milquetoast experience. Then this character specifically just looks like random anime character #957488, giant eyes, could be placed into nearly any anime without anyone thinking anything of it, a dull uninspired character design with not an ounce of an interesting personality, just like the rest of the Disney crew. Glad I didn't buy the 2nd DLC pack, but at least I can save my money for something better (literally anything).
@PickledKong irrelevant? Bro thats spyro the dragon and crash bandicoot they are icons put some respect on their name. They could have made some awesome movesets for them instead of another sword mechanic based anime looking character. Granted i do like sora being in it but looking at the dlc list he should have been released earlier. Its only my opinion
This is, honestly, unreal. I've been playing Smash Bros. since it released in 1999. I got emotional seeing Masahiro Sakurai thank his fans and to see the Smash Bros. team show so much love and respect for their fans. Nintendo has created, in my humble opinion, the greatest fighting game in existence, and I'm so grateful for their incredible work.
@Chamver Uh, the Kingdom Hearts games are coming to the Switch soon
@B_Lindz And your pfp supports as well
Mega Man, Pac-Man, Terry Bogard, Cloud, Sephiroth, Sonic, Banjo, Simon/Richter Belmont, Solid Snake, Ken, Ryu and now Sora.
This game has basically became what me and all my friends wanted it to be when the original came out in 1999. It's absolutely insane the mountains Nintendo and Sakurai had to move to make this happen.
Nothing will ever top this roster, no future Smash games will ever be able to live up to it.
@HollowSpectre There are multiple KH games on Nintendo consoles. 358/2 Days, Re: Coded, Dream Drop Distance, Chain of Memories, Melody of Memory.
Tekken is also on Wii U and on 3DS
@AtlanteanMan It probably helps that there are 5 KH games on Nintendo consoles/handhelds as well. Their relationship with the franchise goes back to 2004
@Nintendo_Thumb "Disney is terrible and everything they make is bland and for little children that enjoy a milquetoast experience." Have you played Smash Brothers and seen the other characters in it?
Also there are 5 KH games on nintendo consoles, this is a pretty logical choice.
@Chamver There are 5 KH games on nintendo console dating back to 2004. Its not a lame choice, its a logical choice.
"Toon Link is not going to come back in Smash Wii U, he is already driving the Spirit Train."
"Mewtwo and Lucas are not going to come back in Smash Wii U, they are already Trophies and Trophies cannot be promoted to Fighters with DLC."
"Ryu from Street Fighter will never be in Smash, characters from traditional fighting games are not going to be in Smash, they don't fit in."
"Third-Party companies can only have one character."
"Third-Party companies can only have one franchise."
"Cloud is never going to be in Smash, he has no relation to Nintendo, his game was never released on Nintendo hardware."
"Bayonetta is never going to be in Smash, she is too sexy, her game is too violent and she uses guns."
"Snake is never going to come back, Konami doesn't make games anymore, they only care for pachinkos, and Kojima was fired, same goes for Simon Belmont, he will never be in Smash."
"Ridley is never going to be in Smash, he is too big, he can't work as a Fighter."
"Third-Party companies can only have two characters."
"Third-Party franchises can only have one character."
"K. Rool is never going to be in Smash, he is dead and irrelevant, he is missing for over a decade, he was removed from his own franchise and was replaced with other villains."
"K. Rool only appears at the end of the SNES games as the final boss, he is not that popular, many people who played the Donkey Kong Country games never saw him."
"K. Rool is owned by Rare and Microsoft, he is not coming to Smash."
"Bandana Dee is never going to be in Smash, he is just a generic enemy, a Goomba with a hat, it would be really stupid to turn a generic mook into a Fighter."
"If a character is already part of the moveset of another character, then this character is disconfirmed and can't be a real Fighter as well."
"Snake and Bayonetta don't count, characters who are too violent and use guns cannot be in Smash."
"Cloud doesn't count, characters who have no relation to Nintendo cannot be in Smash."
"Erdrick or Luminary are never going to be in Smash, the Dragon Quest series is only popular in Japan, characters need to be popular worldwide."
"Banjo will never be in Smash, he is dead, irrelevant, literal who, he has no importance to the history of Nintendo or the history of videogames, he is missing for over a decade, only boomers care about him, his DLC would fail in sales and they should give the spot for someone important, Third-Party characters need relevance, if they are going to add a Microsoft character, it's going to be Steve from Minecraft, and don't compare him with K. Rool because he is First-Party."
"We are not going to have a Microsoft character in Smash, Nintendo and Microsoft are competitors."
"Smash Bros. is only for Japanese characters, Western characters cannot join."
"Terry is never going to be in Smash, that leak is fake, no one know who he is and no one asked for him, no one knows what SNK does."
"Terry is never going to be in Smash, they have much better SNK characters to choose."
"Smash Ultimate is only going to get one Fighter Pass, no more DLC after that."
"DLC is not going to have more Nintendo characters, Third-Party characters sell much more."
"ARMS is never going to have a Fighter in Smash, that game flopped in sales and no one remembers it."
"Min Min is not going to be the ARMS Fighter, Spring Man is the main character."
"Characters who are already Spirits cannot be promoted to Fighters with DLC, all the characters who are already Spirits are disconfirmed."
"Stop comparing the Trophies from Smash Wii U with the Spirits, they are totally different."
"Lucas and Mewtwo were veterans, not newcomers, they are not proof Spirits can still be DLC."
"Byleth proves that Spirits disconfirm, they picked one of the few Nintendo characters that didn't have a Spirit."
"Steve is not going to be in Smash, Banjo disconfirmed him."
"Steve is just a meme chararacter, something people ask only as a joke, Minecraft is cringy and zoomer trash, and is not going to get represented in Smash for real."
"Banjo doesn't count, he used to be owned by Nintendo and was important for the history of Nintendo, we are not having a real western character."
"Sephiroth will never be in Smash, his sword is too big."
"Third-Party franchises can only have one unique character, Echo Fighters and clones don't count."
"Smash Bros. always picks the most important character first, you can't have a secondary character or a villain of a game or franchise before the main playable character."
"Rex is the main character of Xenoblade 2, it's him or nothing, we may get Rex and Pyra as a double Fighter, but not Pyra, Mythra or another one without Rex."
"Rex is already a Mii Costume, since we are not getting Rex, we won't get Pyra either."
"Xenoblade 2 is old news at this point, it was released a long time ago, they missed the chance of having a character at launch, we are not having a Xenoblade 2 Fighter in DLC."
"Min Min was an exception, Spirits still disconfirm."
"Pyra and Mythra are too sexy, after what happened with Mai Shiranui, they can't join the playable roster."
"We are not getting a Tekken character in Smash Ultimate, Heihachi is already a Mii Costume, if they were going to add a Tekken character, they wouldn't have revealed the Mii Costume alongside Min Min".
"Mii Costumes don't just disconfirm the character or the franchise represented, they disconfirm all characters from the Third-Party company that got a Mii Costume."
"A Tekken character is never going to be in Smash, you can't adapt a 3D fighting game to a 2D game like Smash, Sakurai already said it was too hard."
"A Tekken character is never going to be in Smash, Tekken is a niche series that only sold well thanks to bargain bin sales."
"Heihachi is the mascot of the Tekken franchise, it's him or nothing."
"Sora will never be in Smash, he is not a videogame character."
"Disney will never allow Sora to join Smash."
"We can't have two characters from the same Third-Party company in the same Fighter Pass."
HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSON OLD MAN?
@ZaleraExdeath A. there are no good kingdom hearts games on switch specifically. B. There are no Tekken games on switch and Tekken hybrid on 3ds was crap.
i think Mickey Mouse would make a better fighter than Sora. I just think it may be interesting to see Mickey Mouse fighting along side the different super smash bros characters. unfortunately, only Mario, and Banjo & Kazooie would stand a chance in a fight against Mickey Mouse; the other fighters shall cry in defeat...lol
@HollowSpectre Tekken was also on the Gameboy Advance.
They went for a series with some of the best video game soundtracks of all time. The choice seemed so obvious when I saw the keyblade, I can't argue with their final choice. Also it reminded me that I still have to buy melody of memory.
@HollowSpectre I liked all of those KH games apart from Chain of Memories. Why would any of these or Tekken need to be on Switch when Banjo still got a DLC spot regardless of how long its been since he was on nintendo. Tekken on 3DS was bad but the Wii U version was good.
Complete lack of respect for the Kingdom Hearts series shown in this video.
If they cared at all about the series, the video would have been 3 and a half hours long and at the end of it we wouldn't have a freaking clue who the next fighter is and would probably be doubting is Smash Brothers is even a game or if we just remember that wrong.
Then we would have got 1/2 of his move set now, another 1/5th in a few months, then 4/57th in a year, then they would have ret-conned that move set and given us 2/3rds of a new one with some insane time plot to get the last 1/3rd and the whole time DONALD WOULD NOT SHUT THE HELL UP!!!
Ehh. Still not paying for a few DLC characters unless they get discounted to a buck (haha Nintendo do good sales) Soo nothing much changes for me.
Wow, some people don't even bother reading the article! The Kingdom Hearts collections are coming to Switch!
So lame haha. Another sword weilding weeb character. Doom guy would have been cooler
@BanjoPickles people whining about people whining 🙄
I didn't even want Sora for Smash, and yet... I just felt really happy watching the trailer and presentation. It just feels right that Sora's the final character, you know?
@Miyamotosan it should of been doomslayer or even travis touchdown its such a slap in a face their just mii costumes now.
@ZaleraExdeath The point I'm trying to make is I would like to play the mainline entries portabley.
@CartoonDan The point was I was wanting the mainline series on a portable console.
@Harmonie
You’re right, almost all the preceding fighters pass 2 characters were 3rd party “ambassador” picks, which is precisely why I hoped (but didn’t really expect) we’d get a nice soul-food 1st party Nintendo pick for the last slot.
I can’t argue with your logic that the timing was all wrong for such a retro pick today. It was just wishful thinking on my part.
Maybe Waluigi will get his shot in a future game when the stakes aren’t as high.
@BanjoPickles I think we both know it means much more to the gaming community for a character to be a part of the Super Smash Bros. roster than just “Fighter #94”. The game transformed into a “who’s who” of gaming history. No other game has a collection of licenses and IPs interacting with one another like this one.
@HollowSpectre I hope they put Tekken 3 on the switch. I love that one.
@Bluerangervegeta Didn't Sakurai literally say he was the most requested character in a poll they ran 6 years ago? Spewing misinformation doesn't make you right, it makes you a hater.
This is incredible, I thought someone said this was impossible because Disney Japan wouldn't allow it, but then this happened. It's like a miracle, and left me speechless
Why is everybody so toxic in this thread? Like my god you guys can go from wanting sora, to then when he gets revealed you then say “waste of slot glad I didn’t buy the fighter pass” like make up your mind. I personally didn’t think sora was ever getting in, which is why he was at the bottom of my list for characters, but after the reveal trailer and move set, I can say he might be my main haha. The music of when he was flying just hit so different knowing this might be the final time we ever get and update from Sakurai, which brought tears to my eyes, that a game series I love might be coming to an end. With the dlc finally coming to an end I can finally start the journey of playing the game of every dlc character, because I personally didn’t know a lot of them. Overall, this was a big enough reveal to end smash off with, that left tears in my eyes.
Alucard as an add on ?!?! Man thatd be cool , or Celeste from Celeste! I get Sora and know that it’ll get love , but I suppose feels a little safe, but for those who love the char God bless and hope you enjoy it
Honestly this is a weak choice. Nuff said
@Slinkoy1 there will be another smash period. It is to popular of a game to not have another game.
@Slinkoy1 I don’t like Sora, but I’m so happy for your reaction and others as I think that’s what his goal was Keep that happiness and don’t let others ruin it as we all have special games and chars in our hearts.
I’m actually surprised I’m not surprised. I just knew Sora had to be in this game as he was at the top of the polls. I just thought we would have had him way before now. I dislike that they ended with sora as the wrap up character for this super smash as it has blown away every roster in any fighting game ever. It’s too hard to really hit home with a perfect character to wrap up this games lineup but I just had hoped it’d be something from Nintendo rather than a guest.
Anyway, sora deserves his spot but he’s not one I’m personally excited for. I like the cartoonish mascot characters for this. Not enough duck hunt/banjo characters I think. Crash would’ve been a nice addition.
i've gone back to this trailer a few times today, and i can't help but get this massive smile on my face every time i do, even looking at the splash screen for him makes me happy. it just feels so perfect, and the trailer as a whole has this amazing sense of finality to it. an excellent send off to an outstanding game thats probably never gonna be matched
@GuyIncoginto @Ashunera84 @MrGawain @Bluerangervegeta, @AtlanteanMan Ex Thats a key not a sword. He's no more a sword fighter than Joker who uses a knife or Pit who uses pieces of a bow.
@LUIGITORNADO If Sora is using a sword, than Cloud is using a hammer.
I'm not mad into Sora myself personally or KH but the winner of the Smash Ballot joining as the last character is a very nice touch. Presumably they couldn't work it out back then but kept at it.
Sora is worthy (though yet ANOTHER sword-fighter trololol. They must be the easiest to make). And while I probably never buy the dlc packs (I am a single-player, so I won't get much usage out of it) the trailer got me a bit melancholic with the fading flames (it started with the flames). Its truly over now. Sakurai can take a nice break (at least I hope so)...untill its time for the next one? On Switch 2 or whatever it will be called?
@CartoonDan I would say that was my favourite overall.
Smash Brothers Ultimate is still archived on my Switch, and this fighter isn't going to get me to redownload Smash Ultimate... I have zero interest in Sora as a character, nor Kingdom Hearts as a whole. Both are super uninteresting to me.
I am happy for those that are super excited though, but for me... Smash is still dead to me. Once Sora was revealed, I was happy that the dishwasher repairman had arrived a few moments after Sora was revealed, because I have 0 interest in this character.
Meh.. over hyped reveal
@GinMiguel
KeyBLADE. Around the length of an arm with a handle on it. Weapon used to fight baddies.
Close enough to a sword for me!
@MrGawain KeyBlade, core blunt weapon like that isn't sharp at all, uses magic. Yet inspite such an obvious difference, people actually confuse it for a sword, I'll never understand. But fine, a melee weapon all the same, I'll understand.
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The reveal definitely had the feel of “this is the final character.” I thought it was very well done. I was always excited to see which new characters were being added to Smash over the years. I’m going to miss the hype of new character reveals, but Smash will still be one of my favorite games and I’ll continue to enjoy it. A big thank you to Sakurai and everyone who has been working on Super Smash Bros.
@PickledKong I personally find his look and personality annoying. It's so "squeaky clean" or something. He just rubs me the wrong way. There are also several characters I'd much rather have than him in this game, like Lara Croft, Dante, Tifa, Aerith, Krystal, Twintelle, Chun-Li, or Camilla.
@PickledKong look you are free to have your opinion, and I am free to have mine. I just find Animal Crossing to be way more relaxing and fun. I never found competitive games to be all that amusing/entertaining tbh, and the Sora announcement was the final nail in the coffin for me in regards to me ever playing Smash ever again.
And also ACNH to me isn't incomplete. I don't like to look at games that way. I do enjoy ACNH way more than I enjoyed ACNL or any previous Animal Crossing game, but that is just me. And also my island isn't all that well decorated or terraformed. I just enjoy the game as a game that I can play to turn my mind off, and just relax.
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