@Peteykins I know someone that loved it and is very hype, it's definitely more niche than some games but they must have faith in it to give it a new full release after all this time
@Rayquaza2510 In the same form factor that would be compatible with Switch 1 so they can maintain backwards compatibility?
I can't find specific info on SW2 card specs, but even if you have that info I am pretty sure they don't have pricing on what it costs to manufacture SW2 carts specifically.
As far as bringing MicroSD Express back from the grave, I don't think that's super relevant. They chose a factor that worked for them knowing the downsides. You saying they pulled it from the grave doesn't do anything to prove that Nintendo definitely had cheaper options they choose to skip over when it comes game cards.
People can't even come up with a reason why Nintendo would do this besides wanting all the smaller carts for themselves (pretty nonsensical) or them being greedy and choosing an expensive format makes them money somehow?
Nintendo bad or greedy is the only reasoning people have and there isn't enough benefit in them choosing this for that to be a good reason either, clearly you have made your mind up though so we don't need to continue this back and forth, I won't be convinced until I see solid proof and not just "I've seen cheaper, faster memory" available" with no evidence for what it would cost for Nintendo to manufacture that.
I just hate this ongoing narrative that Nintendo is purposefully withholding some cart size without a real reason that has zero evidence and wish that the website itself could avoid engaging in hearsay. They also said maybe review bombing isn't so bad if it gets Nintendo's attention the other day. I just really hate this rumor and hearsay based "news" going on recently because there are very few places that focus on Nintendo news and even the writers have to feed into unsupported narratives people pass around when new sites are supposed to exist entirely to do more research and not make baseless speculation.
@Rayquaza2510 Do you have a breakdown of the memory speeds between old and new carts though? Because if MicroSD express is need for the internal memory to properly power games and that is essentially high speed MicroSD then it's likely that the NAND is higher speed than normal to support modern games.
So while my example was admittedly completely wrong to directly prove that smaller game cards aren't feasible I still don't think it's right to assume this is an arbitrary decision on Nintendo's part and not likely due to a similar issue with MicroSD Express where manufacturing cards smaller than a certain size just isn't feasible cost wise.
I can't find exact numbers on the differences in read and write speed but I am pretty sure you couldn't get Cyberpunk on the type of cart that SW1 used.
I searched the wrong format, my bad, there still isn't really proof that smaller sizes would be cheaper to manufacture at speeds compatible with Switch 2 games so as much as my example was wrong I still think its irresponsible to report as fact that Nintendo is withholding options without having any evidence it would be cheaper to produce or more affordable to publishers.
Edit: I searched the wrong format, my bad, there still isn't really proof that smaller sizes would be cheaper to manufacture at speeds compatible with Switch 2 games so as much as my example was wrong I still think its irresponsible to report as fact that Nintendo is withholding options without having any evidence it would be cheaper to produce or more affordable to publishers.
Okay, everyone in the articles and comments broke me I just made an account for this.
Do me a favor and search for 8GB, 16GB, and 32GB MicroSD Express cards... if you completed that step you will see they don't exist. There is no cheaper option Nintendo is withholding, it doesn't exist. It would in all likelihood be more expensive to start manufacturing smaller cartridges than to just buy 64GB ones.
I knew this was a common misunderstanding but to see the website itself spreading this outright lie without even double checking if smaller sizes exist disappoints me, people make up enough stuff without the people they rely on for reporting buying onto commonly believed lies without double checking
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@Peteykins I know someone that loved it and is very hype, it's definitely more niche than some games but they must have faith in it to give it a new full release after all this time
Re: Furukawa's Defence Of Game-Key Cards Ain't All That Convincing
@Rayquaza2510
In the same form factor that would be compatible with Switch 1 so they can maintain backwards compatibility?
I can't find specific info on SW2 card specs, but even if you have that info I am pretty sure they don't have pricing on what it costs to manufacture SW2 carts specifically.
As far as bringing MicroSD Express back from the grave, I don't think that's super relevant. They chose a factor that worked for them knowing the downsides. You saying they pulled it from the grave doesn't do anything to prove that Nintendo definitely had cheaper options they choose to skip over when it comes game cards.
People can't even come up with a reason why Nintendo would do this besides wanting all the smaller carts for themselves (pretty nonsensical) or them being greedy and choosing an expensive format makes them money somehow?
Nintendo bad or greedy is the only reasoning people have and there isn't enough benefit in them choosing this for that to be a good reason either, clearly you have made your mind up though so we don't need to continue this back and forth, I won't be convinced until I see solid proof and not just "I've seen cheaper, faster memory" available" with no evidence for what it would cost for Nintendo to manufacture that.
I just hate this ongoing narrative that Nintendo is purposefully withholding some cart size without a real reason that has zero evidence and wish that the website itself could avoid engaging in hearsay. They also said maybe review bombing isn't so bad if it gets Nintendo's attention the other day. I just really hate this rumor and hearsay based "news" going on recently because there are very few places that focus on Nintendo news and even the writers have to feed into unsupported narratives people pass around when new sites are supposed to exist entirely to do more research and not make baseless speculation.
Re: Furukawa's Defence Of Game-Key Cards Ain't All That Convincing
@Rayquaza2510
Do you have a breakdown of the memory speeds between old and new carts though? Because if MicroSD express is need for the internal memory to properly power games and that is essentially high speed MicroSD then it's likely that the NAND is higher speed than normal to support modern games.
IGN even mentions the new carts have upgraded speeds
https://www.ign.com/articles/nintendo-switch-2-gets-upgraded-red-game-cards-and-microsd-express-storage-support
So while my example was admittedly completely wrong to directly prove that smaller game cards aren't feasible I still don't think it's right to assume this is an arbitrary decision on Nintendo's part and not likely due to a similar issue with MicroSD Express where manufacturing cards smaller than a certain size just isn't feasible cost wise.
I can't find exact numbers on the differences in read and write speed but I am pretty sure you couldn't get Cyberpunk on the type of cart that SW1 used.
Re: Furukawa's Defence Of Game-Key Cards Ain't All That Convincing
I searched the wrong format, my bad, there still isn't really proof that smaller sizes would be cheaper to manufacture at speeds compatible with Switch 2 games so as much as my example was wrong I still think its irresponsible to report as fact that Nintendo is withholding options without having any evidence it would be cheaper to produce or more affordable to publishers.
Re: Furukawa's Defence Of Game-Key Cards Ain't All That Convincing
Edit: I searched the wrong format, my bad, there still isn't really proof that smaller sizes would be cheaper to manufacture at speeds compatible with Switch 2 games so as much as my example was wrong I still think its irresponsible to report as fact that Nintendo is withholding options without having any evidence it would be cheaper to produce or more affordable to publishers.
Okay, everyone in the articles and comments broke me I just made an account for this.
Do me a favor and search for 8GB, 16GB, and 32GB MicroSD Express cards... if you completed that step you will see they don't exist. There is no cheaper option Nintendo is withholding, it doesn't exist. It would in all likelihood be more expensive to start manufacturing smaller cartridges than to just buy 64GB ones.
I knew this was a common misunderstanding but to see the website itself spreading this outright lie without even double checking if smaller sizes exist disappoints me, people make up enough stuff without the people they rely on for reporting buying onto commonly believed lies without double checking