
With the Switch coming out in just a couple of months, it seems that Nintendo is truly committing to a future in which it invests in just one platform that fulfils the needs of both portable and home console gamers (though it should be noted that it's pitched primarily as a home console at present). Obviously, the Wii U is getting the axe; it's ceased production, and development has all but halted for the console. An ignoble end for the ill-fated device to be sure, but a larger question now remains - what about the 3DS?
The 3DS is going on six years old now, and it certainly is beginning to show its age, but it seems as though Nintendo is keen on keeping it around. From a first-party standpoint we have games such as Poochy and Yoshi's Woolly World, Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia, Fire Emblem Warriors (on New 3DS), and Pikmin to look forward to over the coming months, and that's not even counting the eShop and all the third-parties and indies that regularly contribute to it. If Nintendo's planning on pulling the plug on 3DS, it certainly doesn't seem to be in a hurry to do so. But then again, why would it?
Unlike the Wii U, the 3DS is in rude health; it's not a console on the decline right now, and in fact it's currently firing on all cylinders. Last month, Pokémon Sun and Moon continued breaking sales records for both its own series and all Nintendo software as a whole, and 3DS hardware sales in the latter half of 2016 (buoyed initially by Pokémon GO, as one factor) were up on the equivalent numbers from 2015. Though it hasn't been all sunshine and roses the whole time, the last six years have turned out well for the 3DS; the console has slowly amassed a diverse stable of excellent games spanning just about any genre that you could name.
Of course, the 3DS is beginning to show its age — there's a reason that some developers are increasingly taking advantage of the extra memory workarounds on the New 3DS. Hyrule Warriors Legends ran at a rather unfortunate performance level on the older model 3DS, and games such as Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Pokémon Sun and Moon can only run on the older models when just about all internal resources are being allocated to ensuring they run smoothly. The New 3DS is the obvious solution to this, but even that extra horsepower is a temporary solution to a larger problem. Nintendo's about to put out a device capable of portable gaming the likes of which the dedicated gaming market has never seen, and while it may be that it doesn't fit in your pocket, it'll still be attractive to developers - the 3DS will rely on factors such as its sizable userbase to attract fresh projects.

This puts Nintendo in an interesting position; it's got a device that — even in its advanced age — is showing signs of growth, but the hardware itself is becoming more and more obsolete by the day. It takes resources to keep the platform alive — resources which may have greater effect when put into use on the Switch — so it begs the question: how long should Nintendo keep the 3DS around? At what point does it make more sense to fully commit to the one platform mantra encouraged by the Switch? It's inevitable that the 3DS will be put out to pasture sooner or later, but despite question marks we suspect it'll still be 'later'.
When you really look at how the Switch is being marketed, it doesn't seem to be a replacement for the 3DS. The Switch is an expensive home console that you can also take with you if you so choose, while the 3DS is still very much the "pure" portable experience. There's room, then, for the 3DS to be positioned as a budget console for those who would rather not stump up the somewhat inflated cost of the Switch. Production costs for the 3DS have dropped over the years, allowing Nintendo - in theory - to drop the price considerably from the initial offering and still turn a decent profit.
While the hardware may not quite be able to keep pace with modern game development, it has an extremely strong library of games from over the years. A potential buyer put off by the costs of the Switch may find the 3DS to be a much more attractive option then; it has a lower barrier to entry, financially speaking, and there are more excellent games available than a first-time adopter will ever have time to play through. For the same price as a Switch and one retail game, you could buy a 3DS with five to ten games, and while the two obviously offer different experiences, it's tough to deny that there's still appeal there.

Of course, we'll have to see whether or not Nintendo actually chooses to give the 3DS system a boost. Those infamous stock shortages over Black Friday and beyond certainly seemed to indicate that the company is in no hurry to get units out the door, as it could've easily made many more sales if supply was on par with demand. Considering that there also hasn't been a true formal price cut for the New 3DS (and it doesn't appear that one is coming right now), it seems almost as if Nintendo is just looking at things in the short term. After the hype around Pokémon Sun and Moon inevitably dies down, there'll need to be more incentive for consumers to pick up a 3DS when there's an improved alternative next to it on shelves. This just ties back to the budget console idea, then; if Nintendo drops the price of the 3DS and keeps stock at reasonable levels after the Switch comes out, the 3DS will likely still remain a strong — if somewhat diminished — contributor to the company's bottom line.
It'll be interesting to see, then, what Nintendo chooses to do with the 3DS. For now, the console isn't going anywhere, but perhaps Nintendo could even have longer-term plans. The New 3DS certainly gives the console another year or two, but beyond that, who's to say Nintendo won't put out a successor that comes in at a similar price point? Rather than a future with simply one Nintendo device, perhaps we're looking at one in which there's two portable options; one device is a home console that has portable functionality, while the other is much cheaper and intended solely for portable use.
Either way, Nintendo has done an excellent job over the years of bringing the 3DS out of its initial slump, and the fact that it's lasted this long and done so well shouldn't be dismissed out of hand.
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This system should honestly be dead after 2017, otherwise it's just going to hurt the Switch in the long run.
The Switch is marketed as a home console in order to not lessen it's value, but it's innards are handheld through and through. Even the ARM architecture is built for mobile processors.
All the 3DS games are either ports now, or ones using recycled assets. Look at the newest Mario Sports, which should have been on Switch.
(Mario Golf World Tour)
(Mario Sports Superstars)
wooo! love it ^___^ *hugs 3ds
It's all about the monies.
What ever happened to Ever Oasis? Since E3 of last year, we haven't heard a peep.
I hope the 3DS still has a few years left in its life, and I hope after that Nintendo releases another portable console. I really don't want to see portable gaming die off, and the Switch really won't be able to replace it properly.
Still, sadly I feel like mobile gaming is going to kill off dedicated portable systems, and that Nintendo won't be able to compete any longer if they try to release a new portable.
I hope the 3DS goes strong through this year and 2018.
I'd like them to keep the 3DS going, but with New 3DS exclusive titles now to take more advantage of the system
Please bring Lady Layton and Monster Hunter Stories to the West in 2017!
I'm loving DQ8 on my 3DS. It is not dead but history suggest Nintendo will faze it out in a couple of years.
The Switch's greatest strength will be unifying the Nintendo Library, which means their devs don't need an portable Mario Kart and a home Mario Kart it leaves them open to A) support titles long term and B) revive other titles that normally 'compete' with it like F-Zero or Diddy Kong Racing.
If Switch doesn't gain the likes of Pokemon, Monster Hunter, or even up and commers like Yokai, then it'll simply spin its wheels like the Wii U did. Switch can not afford to suffer the likes of Animal Crossing Amiibo party
The new 3ds certainly has it's merits, but I think in the end the whole 3ds line will be dragged down by the older models, unless they make something like a `New 2DS`. I guess they need to make more New 3DS exclusive games so people will upgrade from the older models.
I find it hard to believe that the 3DS is going to live on . Remember Nintendo's 3 pillars ? Yea ... don't think so . The moment the Switch takes off the 3DS will be dead in the water within months .
Right now, Nintendo is taking the 3DS down the path of what PS2 did by extending its life, and I agree with this. At least until they figure out on making the next latest handheld, one that is NOT the Switch.
Unless the Switch goes down in price, or they make a smaller, cheaper version, they need to keep the 3DS fam around. What parents are going to want to shell out $300 (more with games and accessories) for their kid to take on the go? Plus, I imagine parents would rather pay $40 or less per 3DS game, as opposed to $50-$60 per Switch game. The 3DS family is more "family friendly" in my mind.
I'm hoping for at least another year or two. Lots of games I'm looking forward to this year. Hoping to hear about a few more soon (like EOU III and EOV). Plus I'm really hoping they cut the N3DS (XL) price this year, though I'll probably upgrade regardless to play Fire Emblem Warriors.
Switch's comparative advantage is portability, that would seem to put it at odds with the 3DS. But then I think about how I see little kids (like age 6) bringing their 3DS everywhere and I don't think the Switch will have that same level of portability.
@N1ntendodo Ive been wondering about that . Is the 3DS Nintendo's last handheld ever ?
I'll take 5 more years if it was possible but like was said above it will only hurt Switch sales. I am glad they're still supporting it though instead of the usual drop all support when a new system comes out and yes the Switch to many can be considered a replacement.
Mario Sports Superstars isn't big enough to get a mention in the article? It's getting it's own line of amiibo cards.
MHXX hopefully Co in west, MH Stories too.
The 3DS has plenty of games left in the first half of 2017, I just hope by E3 it's relegated to 2nd class citizen.
They should bring out a Nintendo Classics Mini: Gameboy, a backlit AA-powered GBC preloaded with appropriate ROMs from the GB/GBC:
Tetris
SML1-3
Link's Awakening DX
MGS
Mystic Quest/FFA
Fortified Zone
Pokemon Crystal
Kirby's Dreamland
Metroid 2
R-Type DX
Kirby tilt'n'tumble
Pokémon Pinball
Mario Golf
Oracle of Seasons
Oracle of Ages
Not sure if anyone is aware, but it has been confirmed that every cutscene in BoTW will contain voice acting!!
http://www.gamekult.com/actu/eiji-aonuma-un-zelda-ou-lon-prend-plaisir-a-se-perdre-A172637.html
http://www.zeldainformer.com/breath-of-the-wild-includes-voice-acting-for-all-cut-scenes/
I totally understand that the 3DS is getting on now, but as it and Switch have different purposes, I think they should remain in the dedicated portable market as well. I want to see a successor to 3DS one day... that can upscale older games to look shiny. ^^
I DO love my 3DS. I take it with me everywhere. But I'm ready to move on to the Switch and will be doing so ASAP. Kudos for those hanging on. Glad to see at least the 3DS is doing this well. Its been a fun ride.
Also, I knew I had the right suspicion that the 3DS had nowhere to go yet. As long as content doesn't dry up and get stale, I expect another two or three years before either some sort of New New 3DS model upgrade or Nintendo will just stop cranking out first party games.
At least in the states, I will be really surprised if people will start bringing their Switch out instead of their 3ds. That and a majority of those with a 3ds out and about are kids who have the system purchased for them by their family. I've heard a lot of family conversations about getting the kids a portable gaming device, and I doubt most parents are just going to shell out the cash when there is a cheaper option. So the 3ds might die out, but i doubt it will be mostly because of the Switch.
To be honest, as awesome as the 3DS is, Nintendo I think are going to start pushing the Switch hard come E3 onwards, especially if it takes off in Japan and I wouldn't therefore be surprised if first party is outright dropped for the 3DS at the end of 2017 and they just keep it in production with the assumption that third parties will continue to support it..
if only they'd promote the 3D screen more and bring some Virtual Boy VC titles to 3DS finally, that'd be a nice boost and way to differentiate it from the Switch
The 3ds is going nowhere this year. I'm not sure if it goes anywhere anytime soon, and that has me torn.
If Devs have the 3ds to program for with its install base, and I'm sure lower costs, why bring the games to the Switch?
On the other hand, I think the 3ds is more portable, and a cheaper option for lots to game, and as a gamer, I want as many ways for people to enjoy as possible. I have gottten a lot of rpg and niche games on my 3ds, and wouldn't want to stop others from enjoying them.
I salute you, Nintendo, for your 3DS! Digital retro titles(VC/Virtual Console), DSiware, 3dsware, & naturally/of course, 3DS titles. Even though my O3DS model(color black) has taken some falls over the years, & for some time has been less than 100% operable(barely functional "L" shoulder button, non-functional "R" shoulder button, pressed-in a/b/x/y w/ slight delay in button presses), I still play it regularly(Smash is my car passenger game). Just days ago, I transferd one of my custom Mega Man characters from 3DS to WU Smash.
I'm probably gonna get a NS. I think Nintendo needs to cautiously approach the hybrid console(/handheld) concept; If the NS fails profit-wise, Nintendo will only have mobile titles , & their brand outsourcing(toys, & collectables currently available on the markets).
Going out, & about, I don't get as many StreetPasses as I used to, thought I still get 'em(mostly dependent on where I go). I mostly, anymore, get SpotPasses. Also, like I said in another article here, for the replacement price of a NS(if it were to be stolen), my 3DS is my portable. It's no loss to me, to keep the NS home, since when I go out, & about, I generally don't interact w/ the type of crowd, that wants to do dedicated gaming; Not only that, & the replacement price issue, but my goings out, & about usually amount to going to a store, restaurant, or church function. I have friends who play games, but not on a dedicated level, & I don't interact w/ them in-person often. Most of my gamer friends are here, & on Miiverse.
Using history as a basis for this statement, Nintendo will probably pull the plug on 3DS, even if it still has some life left in it, once NS becomes profitable-enough; Remember, the DS was the 3rd-pillar to, & eventually prematurely killed off, the Gameboy (family) line. Sidenote: I honestly believe that is why the GCN/GBA Mario Tennis games never had connectivity, like its older siblings on N64/GBC.
Maybe Nintendo can keep the 3DS, as an alternative, budget-conscious device. Putting all your eggs in one basket is risky
The Switch should replace the 3DS line as it's a portable and home console. Plus the 3DS is embarrassingly low res compared to smart phones.
Bring Pokemon, Monster Hunter etc to Switch and it'll do incredibly well. If developers just continue to make games for the 3DS (as it's probably cheaper to) and don't support the Switch it won't go anywhere.
Make a portable-only, longer battery life edition of the Switch but don't go splitting the games up again... 1 Mario for Wii U, 1 for 3DS, 1 Mario Kart for Wii U, 1 for 3DS. You just end up competing with yourself.
@bluedogrulez I agree. You can throw your 3ds in your pocket, pop it out and play. And it appears as yesterdays tech. Pulling out a modern and slightly larger switch is far more eye catching and brings attention to yourself and possible theft. There will be a few, but must people are not going to pull out a switch on a subway or in other public places, let alone carry it around. The Switch is portable in the sense of what I like to call "event portable." Portable enough for events, going to your friends house, or to bring to a comfortable location, not so much having on you at all times for those short moments to play.
I want to see the 3ds be put out to pasture so badly, but I understand that that would leave a LOT of portable fans furious.
I want to see Nintendo phase out the 3ds in 1 to 2 years by making a Switch Mini that actually COULD fit in your pocket and maybe have mini (mini) joy cons so you can still switch (ugh) them out. With that much time they could possibly put better hardware in the small version to keep the specs the same.
There ya go, the true 3ds successor.
I don't know why anyone would think the switch would replace the 3ds. The dual screen offers too much potential for handheld gaming and sets it apart from every other portable device. Take away the dual screen and we are essentially left with a vita. Switches size, battery life and all around design indicates that Nintendo doesn't plan on it being a dedicated handheld. Everyone except Nintendo are calling it a handheld. I have a feeling the next gen 3ds will be designed with switch compatibility in mind. These are just my opinions but at the end of the day, replacing the 3ds dual screen with the switch seems like a step backwards and a bad business decision.
@crzysortagamer: "The Switch is portable in the sense of what I call "event portable." Portable enough for events, going to your friends house, or to bring to a comfortable location, not so much having on you at all times for those short moments to play."
That's pretty much how I feel about its portability.
@BLM: "I want to see Nintendo phase out the 3ds in 1 to 2 years by making a Switch Mini that actually COULD fit in your pocket and maybe have mini (mini) joy cons so you can still switch (ugh) them out. With that much time they could possibly put better hardware in the small version to keep the specs the same.
There ya go, the true 3ds successor."
Problem is, then Nintendo would, rightly catch flack for making the original NS almost a stop-gap system/console. The best fix for this would be keep the specs exactly the same.
Nintendo is definitely in a bizarre position. The 3DS sold outstanding in 2016 (no doubt helped by Pokemon), and was virtually sold completely out at Christmas. And we're talking a six year old system. It is what Nintendo almost exclusively relied upon to keep them afloat the past couple of years, especially in 2016.
I'm excited for Switch, but I am glad that all signs point to the 3DS sticking around for a while longer. It is my favorite handheld console of all time, with its virtual console and DS backwards compatibility. It has had an amazing library of great games. And I think it represents an "insurance" policy for Nintendo just in case the Switch doesn't go as well as it should in a year's time. Even with the portability of the Switch, I still see it as mainly a home console with the added benefit of taking it on the go if I desire to. I still see the 3DS as a dedicated portable console, and the one I will take with me on short trips and other traveling.
There is no harm in keeping it alive with a first party title (or port) every so often until the Switch gets its firm footing. The Switch will provide experiences that the 3DS won't, such as BotW, Xenoblade 2, Mario Odyssey, etc., so keeping the 3DS around I don't think hurts potential Switch sales at all.
I truly love the 3DS. It has replaced the SNES as my most favorite console of all time. Despite the business risk to Switch I grin every time I hear the suggestion that 3DS could be around forever. I love that 3D screen, and for those that haven't played on the New 3DS, the whole feel and setup and look of it is just something to cherish we won't ever get again. They really did nail it on that one.
BUT I think it's clear that despite the "Switch is a home console" meme, it's 3DS's successor despite it not being as mobile (not to say there won't be a more mobile Switch later that can be considered the real 3DS replacement.) The fact that SMT5 and other otherwise mobile games are coming to Switch indicates 3DS support is moving to Switch going forward, and the $40 pricepoint on some games that are more mobile that are inherited from 3DS suggests the 3DS is transferring to Switch.
Realistically before the "it's a portable, it's a console, it's a hybrid" debate the SINGLE and ONLY meaningful reason of making the Switch a hybrid is unifying their development and their library behind one hardware platform so they are not stretched so thin. In the GBA days it wasn't a big deal supporting 2 platforms, a team of 8 people could make a complete game in 10 months. Anything beyond 3DS you're back to 40 people over 2 years, and WiiU you're up to 80+ people over 2-4 years....nobody can sustain those programs for multiple platforms that aren't easily related to each other. 3DS is cost effective to develop for. A "more powerful" upgrade from 3DS is basically Vita (which failed due to the dev costs in part.) And any upgrade from that is....Switch. A platform that's mobile which companies can just make their console games for is just a more logical route for the trajectory that handhelds have gone.
Switch is still going to be 3DS's replacement. It just might not fully replace it until "New Switch/Switch Mini/Switch Go/Switch Rev 2.0" comes out. Heck 3DS didn't truly become 3DS until New 3DS came out. And there's still 2DS. Who honestly thinks Switch as we know it will be the ONLY version of Switch over the next 6 years?
Edit: Also, lets not forget even the 3DS has a good number of console ports on it. Some even from WiiU (and an upcoming one that's a port from Switch, FE Warriors!) The trajectory of handhelds INCLUDING the 3DS is to be something that can play console games on the go. Switch really is the 3DS's natural evolution.
I'm still trying to get my head round how demand exceeded demand for that black Mario 3DS....😑
As I said before Nintendo is taking a huge risk with the Switch. The fact that it's both a portable and a console is a really neat concept, but the portability aspect seems a bit impractical some situations (Due it's slightly larger size), but even when the 3ds line had larger more bulkier models made, there was still a bit of seclusion and portability that the Switch doesn't have.
I mean yeah they could release a smaller Switch, but that would just make the Joycons smaller and even less comfortable. Taking away the "Console-Like" aspect away from it.
Plus The 3DS line of systems and games are very profitable, but with the Switch being Nintendo's main focus, they have no choice,but to get rid of it because it might impede Switch sales. But if the Switch doesn't do to well there is nothing it can really fall back on, like with the Wii U.
@Capt_N I didn't mean to have a mini version run with better hardware to be the superior version. I just meant to have better hardware in it so that, even though it would be smaller, it would still be equal to the standard version. I just wouldn't want them to cut corners to be able to get a smaller version out and have the same problems they have with 3ds/n3ds.
I think it's quite fine to keep 3DS around so far. People bringing up DS and GBA case as the basis of their worries forget the differences: not only was DS innovative and astoundingly successful in terms of sales, but it essentially made GBA redundant through literally physical backwards compatibility. Up until DSi, the systems had a GBA card slot in them! And enlighten me if I'm wrong, but I don't know if there really was anything left about GBA back then that DS couldn't do in addition to its own experience.
3DS, on the other hand, lives to see the advent of a console which, despite covering all gaming environments in its hybrid nature, still lacks some of the distinctive features of 3DS... nah, scratch that - ALL the distinctive features of 3DS, since the touchscreen controls went on to become common even across Nintendo's own hardware lineup. Between these features, lower price, still convincing sales and the amassed library, 3DS indeed has better chances than GBA did. Will Nintendo keep N3DS around until the eventual retirement of the platform or until the introduction of another hardware upgrade? It's not like those are a rarity in the industry nowadays. XD But it still offers the visual perk of 3D (for those who love them some visual perks) and the same juxtaposed dual screen gaming experience that inspired developers to make authentic titles like Feel the Magic XX XY and The World Ends With You. The experience still not incapable of inspiring more such games and the experience obviously not present on Switch.
There is no way Nintendo will replace the 3DS anytime soon with the Switch, there is a reason Nintendo is marketing the switch as a console. The 3DS is here to stay.
@TreasureFan I think a "mini Switch" wouldn't have removable JoyCons. It would be compatible with them over BT, but it would just have hard-mounted fixed side controls "SideCons" if you will. I.E. it would look like a thinner 2DS, if not a clamshell, or a clamshell with an empty bottom mid section that looks like a JoyCon Grip design.
Similarly they could do a "Switch Home" if they need to that has no screen, it's just a cube you plug in. But that wouldn't come out for another 3-4 years probably. I could see Switch Mini in 2 years like the XL was for 3DS.
@Capt_N I think you are 100% on. In this case I would love for the 3ds to phase out, but the problem is money. Parents will still be buying their kids the budget friendly 3ds. I dont know, its a strange situation. Nintendo should just make a vita thats pretty much a Switch but without all the expensive rumble and joycons. Then marketing what games are compatible might be an issue. But id take a dumbed down Switch if it was truly pocket portable. I mean you cant even table top mode with while charging without a cradle. How portable is that?
@Oubie Ace Attorney spinoffs, too. And I do mean all of them - Investigations bundled with its sequel's belated yet overdue official translation could make quite a compilation re-release!
@HappyMaskedGuy because that particular 3ds was being sold in Black Friday for $99.
The article covers all the points I've thought about. I think Nintendo is doing this all in steps, with step 1 being to first to establish a userbase for the Switch. If the Switch is a sweeping success, Nintendo will likely wind down the 3DS late 2017 into 2018-- Oppositely, If the Switch does "good enough" or "pretty good", but the 3DS continues to hold relatively stable, then Nintendo could surprise us with a 3DS successor and still have a 2-tier business. IMO, it's all up to the Switch's success.
I'm likely in a minority here, but I think the 3DS is the best console of this generation, maybe even of all time. I just love it. I know Nintendo must be keen to move on, but they also know their install base is almost exclusively on the 3DS right now. They would be silly to give up on it.
Long live my beautiful 3DS!
Keep on making games for it please! I love Switch too, difference being... the 3DS has already proven to me it's amazing.
@NEStalgia That's not a bad idea actually. A lot more enticing then the normal Switch, but who knows what's up Nintendo's Sleeve these days.
@BLM: Oh, I gotcha!
Game Boy: 1989-2000s
DS: 2004-2014
3DS is bound to follow suit
@oatmealwarrior92 Well, to put it cheaply, the PS3 came and did its thing and yet they extended the life of the PS2, then came the PS4. Ergo, it is not the last handheld. Thing is, the critical thing in this comparison is the eras they came from. PS2 had some versions of PS3 titles and a cheap price in its latter days, but thats it. The 3DS though has more juice in it, in the form of new titles coming, DLC, upcoming price drops, to name some. In this era, we can see it last longer as Nintendo's handheld. BESIDES, the 3DS was (and still is) the very thing that came second to combat mobile gaming AND YET it keeps on fighting and attracting people with its titles and stuff. Nintendo dont want to lose that asset just yet, given this much credit. With the Switch being part portable, they are trying to relate to the casuals/children and their families that have their smartphones and tablets to attract more new blood, because we need them, first and foremost, in order to have good impact in the long run. In short, Nintendo is attempting to take back the numbers that made the mobile machine successful. With Nintendo being first to go at the mobile market with its brand power, we can see some impressive things.
Yeah, it still has a role to play.... With role playing games.
Until the NS starts coming into it's own as the potential new RPG Mecca, the New 3DS lifespan will extend for another 2 years or so. Don't count on a direct successor, though. Nintendo consolidated their portable and home console divisions for the NS. There's only one pillar of focus now, and it's a mobile console... I mean... Home console that is portable... Right... 😏
@BLM I think you may have missed my point Re-read the sentence
@nhSnork: "And enlighten me if I'm wrong, but I don't know if there really was anything left about GBA back then that DS couldn't do in addition to its own experience." - Complete bwc(backwards-compatibility) with the entire GB/GBC/GBA catalog; whereas the DS only could play GBA games in single-player only mode. Everything else though(all other GBA features), the DS was capable of.
@crzysortagamer: "But if people thinking they will bring it everywhere is what will sell the Switch, so be it lol" - I probably won't be bringing it everywhere, since theft, & replacement price. I don't take my laptop everywhere, either.
Can't Nintendo finish with the 3DS support already? I really wanna hack my New 3DSXL.
I love my 3DS (new XL version) and no matter what Nintendo decide I'll be playing it for years to come as the list of games I missed playing (or own and haven't completed (or started lol)) is long!
I say Nintendo should start completely focusing on the Switch starting in 2018.
The 3DS shall reach it's lifespan of course, but not in the next 3 years if we compare it's game libary with that of the Switch after 4 months of release and it's upcoming game libary is still a surprise for us, It has a very long way to go before it can sell well. On The day of release it will have a lot of people who are going to buy the Switch with Zelda, but after that it will sell less than most people would think. After Jule the game library will start growing and more indie-games and third-party games are on their moves, what means that the switch will gain more attention and thus more buyers. Most of the games they like to buy are getting released around October - December together with a bundel and that's the time it will reach a higher position and reach more sales than the Wii U did. If we look at end 2018, it will be easier to say that the Switch has surpassed the Xbox one and PS4 and if he does, we can say that Nintendo should support the 3DS for only a year of 2-3 to bring out a new handheld, but if the Switch will fail like the Wii U did (low chance) than the 3DS will stil be supported for around the 4-5 years.
But after all, the 3DS is stil a whorty handheld with a bright future and there is no reason why Nintendo would stop with supporting the 3DS.
@NEStalgia a Switch screen plus joycons package for £180 would be a start. That's how it should have been sold in the first place, with the toaster and grip thing available seperately.
The 3DS is in a very interesting position at the moment. Yes, the Switch looks like it will replace the 3DS... but I'm not sure if it will. It seems Nintendo is starting to decline 3DS software by giving us the last of its big titles (game like Ever Oasis, Lady Layton, and Pikmin) and some ports or games that are aesthetically similar than previous entries (Yoshi's Woolly World, Mario Sports Mix, Fire Emblem Echoes).
Honestly, the 3DS 2017 line-up is better than that of the Switch... especially if you own a Wii U. I was going to get a Switch when I came home from school for the summer, but now I'm holding off and putting my money toward a PS4 and upgrading my 3DS (I still have the original model). There are a few games in my 3DS library that I have yet to properly play through, there are a decent amount of games I haven't got around to picking up yet (Majora's Mask, Monster Hunter Generations, ect.), and the Nintendo Selects re-releases of Dream Team and Triple Deluxe are definite pick-ups for me. And if I upgrade to the New 3DS, then I'll go back and properly enjoy Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate and have access to SNES games.
If I were to get the Switch in May, I'd probably only pick up Mario Kart 8 Deluxe on it... a game I can currently already play on my Wii U (I'm getting Zelda for the Wii U so I don't have to wait to play it). Aside from a few third party games that I could get on other platforms, I wouldn't get another game until Splatoon 2 and Super Mario Odyssey. I hope the Switch sells well, and my opinion on it keeps changing each day, but I can see it just being a pointless system until the holiday season at least.
Here's hoping Nintendo can manage to make the Switch and 3DS live together in some fashion. I'd actually like the Switch to replace the 3DS, but I don't see a lot of others in favor of that. This will definitely be an intriguing year for the company.
@Drainos just an expectation, it can totally be different from what i said.
No. No more support for the 3DS. Look, I love mine, but even five years ago when the system came out the 3DS screen resolution was outdated. I just can't do it anymore. It's 2017, those jagged edges and pixelated visuals look even worse now than they did in comparison to everything else we had back then.
Either make a brand new handheld, or move all support to the Switch. I don't think I can buy anymore games for a system that has such awful screen resolution. Npc faces almost always look like they got chopped up by a maul.
3ds' and even the 2ds has been sold out for months at almost all my local retailers even amazon prices have ballooned. at local gamestores the games are even becoming rare and im in a decent NA city. nintendo doesnt seem to be in a hurry to restock either. makes me think they want the consumer to be buying switch hardware and software. 3ds will get a few new games but come e3 it will be all about the switch. it really could be a good budget option, but im just not seeing nintendo support lasting beyond a few months, although 3rd parties will continue on for a few years id hope as im a huge 3ds fan =D
Very though choice...
I would like to see 3DS still continued until the end of year 2018 or 2019.
@HappyMaskedGuy haha, sorry >_< I was at work and shouldn't have been multitasking
For me the 2DS is one of the best systems ever devised, I don't care about 3D.
Apart from the fact that Switch isn't actually very well suited for playing DS/3DS and Wii U games—it's just to crazy to me that Nintendo apparently didn't design the system with this in mind—I think Nintendo should just start putting everything from 3DS and Wii U on the Switch, drop the price of the 3DS and Wii U by quite some bit too, and then focus fully on the Switch going forward for the most part. It's fine to keep supporting the 3DS as the "budget" handheld as well, but I think Nintendo's main focus should really be the Switch now and it should aim to get every possible game on there. Nintendo needs to show gamers it still has the ability to knock it out the park, and wash away all the bad blood from the last few generations in the process.
I said this months back when everyone was panicking that the Switch was going to kill off the 3DS. It will not. A few very simple reasons why and we can move on to enjoying both systems:
1. 2DS/3DS starts at $79.99. Switch is $299.99. It's a different price-point. Some crossover will take place. But there is also a different market segment each are targeting.
2. 2DS/3DS is a true portable. It fits in your pocket. Switch doesn't. It's a console you can take with you.
3. 3DS is 3D. It (and 2DS) have 2 screens. It's a different play experience
4. 3DS is Nintendo's cash cow! To suggest that the Switch will take over that role AS WELL AS the incremental revenue that Nintendo plans for this new product offering - even in it's first 2 years - is ludicrous to even imagine. Remember... a company introduces new products to increase revenue, not simply replace revenue streams. For Nintendo to make such an assumption that killing off their cash cow will not only drive an equal volume of sales to an unknown product line, but also offer incremental revenue improvement over it is just pure silliness.
These are different product lines at very different price-points with different play experiences. 3DS games will not be end-of-lifed - at least not because of the Switch. I can see a 3DS successor as shutter technology gets better and cheaper and screens with better resolution come down to the point where they fit into that sub $199 price-point.
@RadioHedgeFund Yes, but there's no good reason at all to make it AA battery powered when they can just include a modern rechargeable battery (and charge cable), which would probably last for like 60 hours with a machine the power of a Game Boy/Game Boy Color. And, they should include 30 of the best Game Boy game plus 30 of the best Game Boy Color game. I think that would be very cool indeed. Also, make it roughly the size and shape of the Game Boy Color, even if it goes with the traditional grey and purple Game Boy colouring, rather than modelling it's size on the original brick.
@BensonUii which is why they have hamstrung Switch before it's even released.
@asaprowen And so it should. I'd like to see proper voice acting during the main game too, like most other modern AAA games. Link doesn't have to speak but everyone else really should be speaking in this day and age, and the fact they all have voices in the cutscenes shows there's no real reason/excuse for them not speaking anymore.
It's certainly going to be an interesting year or so for Nintendo.
The Switch won't be able to cater for a large portion of the 3DS/2DS market in its current form and price point (i.e. the parents buying a cheapish sturdy handheld for their young children), they can't support the 3DS indefinitely and it doesn't sound like they'll be replacing it with a dedicated handheld either. So are they just going to let that market go? The market they've had since the original GB? Of course they're not. They must have a plan up their sleeve. All I can think of is a dumbed down handheld only cheaper variant of the Switch. Think what the 2DS is to the 3DS. It's all I can think of.
I see so many young children with their parents in restaurants/pubs/airports/stations playing on a 3DS that looks battered but still plays fine. I cannot for one second picture them doing that with a £280 sleek Switch console. So what will these children be playing with in 2 years' time? If Nintendo don't cater for them, it's gonna be a smartphone.
Seriously some of you want your cake and eat it.
But of course, it won't be nintendos fault if it all goes tits up.
@Moon It's a great little handheld, up there with the best of them, but it could have been even better if Nintendo had nailed things like the Virtual Console far better than it has thus far. There's still time. . . .
I can think of multiple ways I could keep 3DS going for quite a few years to come and still be a very attractive value proposition to a whole bunch of gamers: Release a new model with a proper second analog stick and greatly improved battery life, reduce the price further, really go to town on the Virtual Console (get every possible retro game on there, especially first party stuff), continue to release new games for the foreseeable future, etc—the machine could comfortably have a healthy ten year plus lifespan.
Even I felt that as the Switch gets closer to launch I would slowly start moving away from the system but lately I have found myself playing it now more than ever. There are so many incredible games that I have yet to purchase to the point that I could literally be set for the next couple of years and wouldn't have to worry about getting a Switch. Now I won't wait THAT long but I don't feel obligated to get a new system, especially as Nintendo proved it still plans to support the system if the recent Fire Emblem Direct is any indication. The 3DS truly is one of the best systems ever made.
I was worried at first that the Switch was trying to be a hybrid but honestly it seems like It's a home console you can take with you. I know lots of people are hating on the 3DS but for someone who games on a budget I love it.
Alright, ol' Jax is about to opine on this topic,
... been wanting to talk about this for a little while now.
The 3DS has done well. I don't think people realize just how close it came to disaster. Nintendo did a fine job resurrecting the platform before catastrophe struck permanently... the little handheld that could, haha. But I'm not sure if Nintendo released another handheld that it would be so lucky. As mobile suffocates the handheld market more and more, it's only going to become harder to sell a dedicated device not half as capable as a phone. Of course, there's the quality games, but more and more kids are being conditioned with free to play garbage and low tolerance for entertainment. It's not looking good.
If Nintendo abandons 3DS, all bets are off. I'm not saying Nintendo can't (or won't) release another successful handheld, I'm just saying, it's a risk. More now than it's ever been before.
Until Switch anchors itself and digs it's roots in deep, Nintendo has to keep the 3DS alive. Of course that requires resources, and right now Switch needs all the resources they can lend. So I think they should put as little effort as possible into 3DS... just enough to keep it chugging along. Port a few games, release some smaller titles, and lean on 3rd parties. Localize the livin flip out of the JP library (MH Stories, DQ Joker 3, etc). Cut a deal with Capcom and Square Enix to start bringing over their catalogs. This will allow 80% of their software resources to be directed at Switch, and they seriously need to make sure that console takes off. Cause 3DS can only last so long. The countdown has begun. They don't have time for another shot at this. If they don't get Switch rolling, they'll be forced to replace 3DS, and as I said before, all bets are off at that point.
If Switch fails to take off, I suspect they'll ride 3DS til the wheels fall off (e.g. people stop buying software in meaningful numbers). But with most resources directed at Switch, that won't be nearly as much as it's been historically. If it does take off, they can switch pillars and fire off a new handheld, or, devote all resources to Switch and let 3rd parties ride out the 3DS, while maybe dropping a token game once or twice a year just to prolong it as much as possible.
Whatever happens though, 3DS can't last forever. Switch must succeed (and surely Nintendo knows this more than anyone, which is why I have so much faith they're gonna bring the heat, and truly believe the Switch will be the best Nintendo console since the SNES... because it has to be)
@BLM lol no problem. Wish we had a deal like that here though- under £100 for a new 3DS? 😭 I want that!
@AyanamiReign You are 100% right I think there needs to be just one system that plays all nintendos games.
If they want a more portable system they need to amke sure it still plays the same games and just changes screen size and battery life maybe something in the style of a 3dsXL?
Kinda seems obvious to me: they market the Switch as a home console first and foremost for the next year or 2, with the 3DS as an affordable portable with an enviable library. Then when the Switch is established, and 3DS sales have dropped sufficiently, they change the Switch marketing message to focus on its' portability as the next gen of handhelds - by which time it too will finally have a decent enough library.
Some casuals might get confused and start thinking that there's two different Switches, but that can easily be addressed with good marketing.
@LegendOfPokemon I think they have to put everything behind the switch right now and let the third parties still develop for the 3DS if they still wish. The future is switch and they need it to succeed, which will require all there devs to make games for the system.
@JaxonH
Absolutely nailed it IMHO
2 reasons why I'm in no hurry to change from 3DS to Switch for my portable gaming: the 3D screen and the d-pad.
I salute them both
Lot's of titles coming to 3ds that I plan on getting. As someone mentioned, hopefully we see more of Ever Oasis soon. That looked really promising.
@bofis Agreed! I would buy those Virtual Boy games day 1! If you have the option to play in the original black and red and color that would be better. To me, what makes the 3DS unique is the 3D and that was made even better with the New 3DS. I know I look for 3D games to play on my 3DS.
After years of screawing the Wii U because of oversupporting the 3DS, Nintendo finnaly merged both handheld and home console markets to avoid game droughts, they realised they can't support 2 system without third party support. And yet, they still supoort the 3DS instead of going full supoort for the Switch. I was facepalming so hard during the Fire Emblem Direct. Years waiting for a WiiU Fire Emblem, and they release a third one for the 3DS( doesn't It have enough?), instead of focusing on the Switch version that NEEDS to happen to show "handheld games " supoort on the Switch( also waiting for Pokémon) Now I haver to wait till 2018 NINTENDO I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR 10 YEARS SINCE RADIANT DAWN. If they don't kill the 3DS , there is no point for a hybrid system. Wake up Nintendo, I hope this is just the last year for the 3DS, I don't want another Wii U.
@N1ntendodo There would be no point of making a hybrid system If they make another handheld.
I love my new 3DS XL such an awesome little piece of gaming tech., I play mine daily I'm a huge fan of the stereoscopic 3D screen there are sooo many titles that shine on the 3DS, I honestly game more on my 3DS than I do my phone or any of the consoles we have I even love the clam shell design of if it's easily my all-time favorite system and in saying all that I truly hope Nintendo keeps the 3DS going strong untill it gets it's own portable successor which I truly hope they keep the stereoscopic 3D screen tech. in use on it's successor glasses free 3D is a glorious thing and I completely believe Nintendo has it in them to have two successful systems on the market at the same time they have proven that time and time again . Long Live 3DS .
The 3DS is probably one of my all time favourite systems. Now, I know that Nintendo needs to focus on the Switch to make it a success, but for me personally I would love to see a dedicated successor to the 3DS. There are some things that the 3DS does that Switch doesn't that I would like to see continued in a Nintendo handheld system. Two screens and stereoscopic 3D are the main two plus the clamshell design are things I would love to see continued. A 3DS 2 with Switch quality graphics would make an awesome portable. Yes, I know the whole situation about resources needed to make Switch a success, but I would be more excited about a 3DS 2.
I don't know how some people think that the 3ds has years of support left in it. I feel like 2018 will be when the 3ds really dies (you know that last year when all we get are niche japanese titles finally getting localized). I find it odd that some are claiming that the 3ds is going to get 3 more years of support considering that the DS (their best selling handheld) got 8 years of support. I do feel like it's getting to the point where sooner or later Nintendo will be forced to stop making 3ds games. The newer games are running worse on older hardware and supporting two systems will eat up resources in the long run.
I can see 1st party support being done after this year with 3rd parties picking up the rest the following year.
all I want is a 3ds with better harder/higher resolution screen the design is sexy already
@shinpaku oh and make the extra nub rotate like the main and that's it
Honestly, I can't see the 3DS with games coming out for more than maybe next year. This year will be big but afterwards, I feel like it's going to go out with a bang.
I want this system to go away, its been an honorable run, but switch is here now to cover both basis. Don't need the 3ds taking software away from what should be on the switch (Fire emblem).
Asuch as I love the 3ds, it shouldn't be be dead right before holiday season, if not right after. Because like some, I believe the Switch is a soft launch, meaning that it's taking its time, amassing games, features and gaining user feedback, all in time for the holiday season. It's at that time, Advertising should be pushed hard, and the 3ds should be dead, leading more people to pick a switch.
But on a side note, it might also benefit them if they released a Gameboy mini, like the nes mini. It would cater to the retro and low cost gaming people, while the switch would be more for the the higher end market
@Romeo-75 I'm a big fan of the 3d as well. I will miss it in future games.
I do feel like we are going to get one last huge game on the 3ds other than Pokemon. Maybe a new 3D Zelda or something on that level. Maybe something Retro's making.
I don't think the semi-portable home console that is the Nintendo Switch will replace the 3DS. Wouldn't shock me if a new handheld is announced in a year or two that actually replaces the 3DS and maybe that can interact more heavily with a Nintendo Switch but I don't think handhelds are being phased out for a home console that can be taken on the go.
A strong 2017 and then a drift off in 2018 beyond that I could see a real market for the 2ds sticking around for kids with a lot of cheap/used games for years which is what GBA did. I bought one of yhose new GBA micros long after DS was out.
I dont think ppl realize how scalable Switch can be for Nintendo. I fully expect it to be without doc in Japan next year, maybe sooner. I think in 2 yrs after its established the will offer a Switch GO which will be mobile only, cheaper, better battery and lighter but running all yhe same games as yhe hybrid. Then How about a Switch Home Pro model that bundles Pro controller and supports 4K upscaling and streaming, but runs the same software as the hybrid. This is hopefully the strategy Nintendo is considering. Establish the platform as hybrid then offer forks.
All this talk about power is sort of nonsense. Games, Engines, grafx......they all scale. They always have but now more than ever its easier to scale games one way or the oher. Sony and M$ have established scaleable platforms so its no nig deal to devs.
This is how N could push Switch as a platform for,years that still gives them multiple itterations. Lets hope....I personally loved Gamepad for OffTV.....most didnt and by 2014 N should have accepted their market failure and sold a solo WiiU at $199. With the great 2014/2105 lineup they may have revived it. I think they are in a smarter position with Switch
It's good to see the 3DS still showing some life even this late into it's life cycle. However, anyone with common sense can tell you that it's just a repeat of the GBA to DS transition. Nintendo claimed the DS was this 3rd pillar that wasn't going to replace the GBA, but in the end, it eventually did, as they were only saying that in case the DS failed miserably.
It's the same scenario with the Switch. The only reason Nintendo is calling it a home console, is because they don't want the 3DS to die just yet. That way, they have something to fall back on if the Switch was to fail. Look, the Switch is a mobile device first and foremost. It's based on mobile hardware, people who went hands-on with it said it feels more like a handheld than a console. And Nintendo is banking on it being their only platform to support in the future, they just don't want to admit it yet.
@crzysortagamer Bit of a silly thing to say when the Game Boy, GBA, DS, and 3DS all weren't chargeable in their tabletop mode, because such a thing didn't exist.
The Vita-like Switch you're proposing also wouldn't be able to have a tabletop mode, so the whole thing is kind of a moot point.
It has a lot of life in it... But no successor. The whole point of Switch and merging departments is to develop the games combined for one platform so the console will have a lot of first party games even if Western third parties abandon it. That's the whole idea behind this. So when new 3DS retires whenever that is, that's it.
Which is a shame. 3D for portable gameplay is awesome. And dual screens too. So was the Wii U. But what can you do. Hopefully Switch will be just as amazing and sell bonanzas.
oh, dang. I wish I got on earlier because I wanted to be near the top.
(T_T )
But yeah, I don't think the 3ds is going to stick around long. 2017 will probably be its last year, and with only a trickle of games.
Everyone, go take a look at the upcoming 3ds games on Gamestop's website.
There are 9 games coming out. One is also an amiibo bundle, another a deluxe version, and 2 are nintendo selects. So really, once those have been taken out, we are looking at 5 games.
The PS Vita on the other hand has 11 games listed for 2017. All of them different titles.
Remember, Nintendo said that the DS was NOT going to replace the Gameboy Advance, but history tells us different.
@oatmealwarrior92 unless Switch fails which I pray not, I don't think there's any doubt about that. It's their way of getting out of the home console market. They make a portable which is easy playable also on TV winning all markets. It's Switches from now on. Smaller. Larger. Maybe more screens maybe 3D (please) but it's one console going forward. Console . And Mobile. And then also find a way to combine mobile games to console too (I thought they'd announce Android support with Switch).
@Romeo-75 I agree with everything you said about the sheer awesomeness of the 3DS but I just cannot imagine how they will be able to go forward with both. Surely they're not thinking people will just carry both the Switch and 3DS with them. They converged.
There can't be any other way but I agree 3DS design and everything about it... Just too sad and cruel to leave it behind. Same way I feel with Wii U... Never to have another Arkham City, Mass Effect , Deux Ex or Zombi U Wii U experiences... Tough.
Dragon Quest XI, ever oasis , monster hunter xx and a new shin megami Tensei + nintendo games , 3DS will be ok .
Wanna keep the 3DS alive? Get the VC back on track. I think it's too late for it to produce one last proper quality game that doesn't just appeal to a niche audience.
I would like to see a successor to the 3ds or an even stronger new3ds, that is backwardscompatible with ds and 3ds games.
@bofis There is a virtual boy emulator on New 3DS with full speed, 3D and all. It just isn't official.
Lets see, upcoming 3DS game to play in 2017 (that I find interesting, sorry Yoshi).
Dragon Quest XI
Monster Hunter Stories
Fire Emblem: Echoes
Fire Emblem Warriors
Ever Oasis
Etrian Odyssey V
Snack World
Shin Megami Tensei ???
There's a few games to keep me going through 2017 and I'm sure there's more unannounced games in development. 2018 could be slow.
@CrimSkies97 That just makes me want Nintendo sell Virtual Boy VC releases in 3D on 3DS, or even make it n3DS like they did with SNES games, it would be a great last hoorah for their 3D system
While I love my New 3DS XL (as I'm primarily a handheld gamer), I am ready for a more "mature" system from Nintendo. I'm definitely going to enjoy DQ7 and 8 for the next few weeks and any other good-looking game(s) that release for the aging system. But I'm also looking forward to new horizons with better, beefier tech inside. (And while I was a little bewildered about the lack of StreetPass functionality in the Switch at first, I'm not at all worried about it now.)
I wonder how long it will be before tech improvments will allow for a truly portable Switch mini?
The 3DS so far has proven not to be just the best handheld Nintendo has ever created, but one of the best consoles period.
It deserves one last great game to go out with a bang before ending its lifespan. And I don't mean one of those Wii U ports, nor that linear sidescrolling Pikmin game we're getting (does anyone actually remember it?). Maybe not even a new Zelda game made for the system, as it would take its toll on poor Aonuma after the dual release of Breath Of The Wild. But a new Mario, maybe a linear, effortless mission-pack-sequel to 3D Land in the vein of 3D World with a rideable Yoshi? Yes, that would be the very definition of a swan song.
@chiptoon

It might take a while.
Statements like this bug me: "the hardware itself is becoming more and more obsolete by the day"
Why? What makes it obsolete? I love my 3DS, and I have a lot of games on it that I probably won't get tired of any time soon. Does the fact that they or the console itself several years old make them obsolete? If so, doesn't that mean that retro gaming is a big waste of time, and the NES/SF Mini are wastes of money? I'm pretty sure playing games that I enjoy, even older games, is NOT a bad thing. Personally, I have so many games across many systems that I really want to play but will probably never find the time for, that when a new system like Switch comes out with tantalizing new games, it's depressing because I know I'll eventually end up spending a lot of money for a lot of games that I may or may not find the time to fully enjoy and appreciate. The way people are constantly clamoring for the next big thing in video games puzzles me... do they all know some secret to finishing tons and tons of video games that I don't, or do they just not have social and/or personal lives outside of video games?
Sorry about the rant (that I have to hold back from getting into every time something I like is called old or obsolete, and also that probably no one will read or care about). Maybe the 3DS hardware isn't getting obsolete. Maybe it's ME that's getting obsolete. Dang, getting old kinda stinks. Oh well, I guess my 3DS and I will just have to be happy in obsolescence together.
I hope and also think, they are going to phase out the 3DS over the course of 2017 - definitely as far as any major 1st-party support goes. It'll be open for business for 3rd-party releases and e-shop/indies/VCs and so on for quite a while though - which, of course, is a good thing, too.
As much as I like my 3DS, the fact remains that Nintendo cannot successfully support two distinct platforms at this point in time. For the forseeable future at least, Nintendo will also be only one willing to prop up the Switch with major, exclusive releases. This means for the Switch to become a success, Nintendo will have to bring it's 1st-party game like never before - hence they simply cannot afford to commit any major additional ressources to the 3DS (beyond those already commited for 2017).
I even think it was a mistake to commit Intelligent System to yet another FE before really focusing on a Switch game. Afterall, I don't think anyone could deny, that it was disappointing to see, that FE Switch game didn't have anything to show for itself, not even concept art and a definitive title. "Planned for 2018" also felt like a statement-turned-instant-euphemismen.
As an owner of the NEW 3DS, I'd like me games built for said handheld barring just ports and Virtual Console, but, I fear Nintendo must be the knowledge less people own a New 3DS than older variant, and as such and game released for the New 3DS alone would hit a wall.
I hope a few more Limited Edition consoles get released in the final months/year of the 3DS's lifecycle. I am a sucker for Nintendo handhelds and I'd love to pick up a small black N3DS and another LE XL model.
@memoryman3 I haven't been able to find any confirmed information about this, and I hope you can help me. It turns out I haven't bought Mario Tennis Open or Mario Golf World Tour yet, and the Mario Sports Superstars is almost here.
Do you know if the tennis and golf games will be just the same as the individual games? I mean, will still be worth it to buy the tennis and golf games separately? Thanks
We're still supposedly waiting for Snack World and Ever Oasis too.
Haven't heard much from either.
Oh and the 3DS version of DQ11
3DS made up for the Wii U failings, it's an brilliant handheld with the best first party line-up of any console on the market, they'd be stupid to ditch it.
I'd say the 3DS has a good 2 years left in it.
Nintendo will keep the 3DS alive until they are ready to replace it with a truly portable version of the Switch. Imagine a Switch version with the form factor of the 3DS (Clam shell). It has that wonderful screen (in a smaller size) on the top half and the joy cons attached on the lower half. When the Joy Cons are removed the bottom half can fold under to hold the screen up. Of course, there would be no option to play on a TV.
Nintendo knows that the Switch (in its current form) is too big and too expensive to be a true replacement for the 3DS, and that is why they will keep the 3DS alive until they are ready for Switch to move into that niche as well. By then they will also have lots of software ready to come down in price as well.
I'm super annoyed that FE Echoes isn't being ported to Switch like FE Warriors is being ported to 3DS. Once NS releases, I probably won't touch the 3DS much for anything new. For me, NS is a portable while my PS4 and XBO are my home consoles
The 3DS's graphics are definitely showing their age, but it's a solid little system with an amazing library. And with its large user base, Nintendo would be wise to continue releasing more excellent games for it in the future. Star Fox 64 3D just needs a price drop! I'm still waiting on that one.
3DS looks so dated. I was hoping N will finish it at the same time as Wii U.
For portable gaming I will take my 3DS XL, DSi XL, PS Vita and PSP over the Switch every single day of the week.
Maybe they can wait until they make a Switch budget variant, like a handheld only form. (yes, I dream ^^")
@Armand7 But most of the time, late life games of a console rarely see the West. Sadly.
@Dezzy And there is a new Inazuma to come out too. Unless it is programmed for Switch (didn't see any info about the platform)
@Li_Bae I' almost certain it was included in the first batch of "player's choice" or whatever it is called nowadays.
@Oubie And Monster Hunter XX (though I lost my X save and still aven't find courage nor time to start it again)
@AyanamiReign
I disagree with Ninty ever putting out an exclusively portable Switch. But I do support Nintendo dropping the dock out of the package for a price cut, once 3DS sales start slowing down.
@BLM that's the worst idea.
Mini-mini joycons?
No. The most natural move for Nintendo as it applies to their dedicated Handheld division is the DS HD.
Keep the DS family alive with continued backwards-compatibility through the original DS, and just heavily beef up the internal hardware. DS HD exclusive games for those willing to make the jump, plus the DS/3DS compatibility would keep the familiar and introduce so much more.
@RadioHedgeFund @AyanamiReign What I fiend funny is the split between what has become 3 camps of the Western audience.
One camp thinks the machine is a handheld that should have been shipped with the machine and the detachable controllers, but left out the dock "toaster" as you call it, because they shouldn't have to buy the home console features they don't want.
The second camp thinks that it's a home console and portability has no purpose, and therefore they should have just made a normal controller without the removable ones, and more power without worrying about a battery and they shouldn't have to buy the mobility features they don't want.
The third camp is pleased with what it is.
And the first two camps ironically seem unable to figure out why the product is being bundled as-is to appeal to both camps because they're so focused on their own perspective.
They built a mobile console, they included a plastic dock with a jack on the back that adds virtually no cost to the package, despite the fact that they sell it at a high price when selling it alone. Adding the dock is like adding the charging cradle to the original 3DS. You're definitely not paying $90 or even $50 for it in the box. If nothing else it's an included charging cradle for the machine so you don't leave it face-up on the table to charge.
I think they'll sell the version without the dock at some point once the market stabilizes, and they probably will drop the price a little for it mostly to appeal to that market. But not until they cement the idea of Switch being both a console and a handheld. They need everyone considering buying a console to see the console they want to see in it. If they split out those features, the TV crowd will not see the console they want when they see a Switch, where some of them will see it when it's in the bundle.
But I just talked @rjejr 's ear off in another thread about the fixation on the dock price. The dock is a $4-5 part. If they dropped the dock from the kit, they could shave off $5, MAYBE $10 off the purchase price tops. They're not charging you $90 for the dock in the box. Switch would not be a $199 or even $250 console just because they dropped the dock. It's an "almost free accessory" being thrown in the box, and most of the R&D associated with docking is inside the console itself, not the dock (so you'd be paying for most of it anyway.) They're just charging a fortune for spare ones because they can. Because not many people will want one and those that do will pay the premium for it without much complaint. Every switch will have a dock, so who needs 2 docks? People with a bunch of rooms and a bunch of TVs. who won't mind the $90 so much. For a $5 accessory. It's not a $90 dock that makes Switch more expensive. It's a $5 dock that they soak you $90 for if you want an extra one.
@AlexSora89
I have given up hope on getting a sequel to Super Mario 3D land. I think it far more likely that 3DS would get something like New Super Mario Bros 3.
@NImH worst idea? I was having fun envisioning an approach Nintendo could take. If you want to get into a real worst idea, continuing the ds with an hd iteration in today's mobile market is suicide. You can laugh at my mini mini joycons all you want, but it's not the size that matters...it's how Wii Use it.
@BLM
I agree 100%. There is no way that Nintendo is going to create a successor to the 3DS that is a separate platform from the Switch requiring its own unique game library. They had trouble supporting both the Wii U and the 3DS with a decent library. The situation would be much worse with two separate HD platforms to support. On top of that is the fact that Nintendo praised the I/OS model many times (one software platform across multiple devices). The device that eventually replaces the 3DS will be designed to run Switch games. In fact, I would bet that they already know what that device will be and a time frame for when they want to bring it to market. My guess is that the next iteration of Pokémon will be released at the same time.
@BLM aww. Sorry I disagreed with your fun.
One word(two I guess..?), Streetpass!
I love bringing my 3DS around the city, I don't see myself lugging the Switch around the subway....
@RatKing64
I wouldn't mind one, to be honest. If they added Yoshi and more throwbacks to Super Mario World (Cape above all else), plus some Super Mario Bros. 3 powerups, they could create another classic, mission pack sequel or not. It should include enough elements to stand out on its own, however, given Super Mario Maker for 3DS is still a potentially infinite Mario game.
I seriously think the 3DS could keep going well into 2018. But if most devs are going to axe the 3d like the the last few Eshop titles and some recent retail games death to 3ds might come in a different form. Hopefully they will bring us games which actually use the power of the New 3DS other than Xenoblade. I don't care what they show on the Eshop for the New 3DS there is only 1 game that uses the power. The rest will run on the old system. It's stuff like that which makes me mad at Nintendo sometimes. Like SNES games are going to have trouble running on 3DS. Sheesh. Don't get me wrong it's my favorite system ever But 1 game made for the New 3DS is a real head scratcher.
At the moment, looking the marketing done by Nintendo for the Switch, i think that it will be replace the 3DS in the 2018, with the announce of the new Pokémon and Monster Hunter games.
But, there is a thing: we are speaking of the Nintendo, all will happen.
However, with the announce of the new Fire Emblem on the Switch, also of the Shin Megami Tensei, Octopath Traveler and others (games that in the past was released on the 3DS), i think that Nintendo has the intention to develop only on the Switch.
Perhaps Nintendo will make a restyle of the Switch, only portable with 4 hours of battery, but without dockstation and joycons.
This will be appen only if Switch will have problems in Japan, because there the handhelds are more important than the home console.
Maybe will Nintendo make a bundle without dockstation? We'll see, i am curious about that.
Imho, i think that if Nintendo will brings all of his IPs the Nintendo Switch will be an amazing console.
If Nintendo will continue to develop on two differents hardware, argh, Switch will be a WiiU 2.
I'm saying that the unique problem of Nintendo is herself.
If there are errors sorry, but i'm italian and i speak good spanish and little english.
@Windy The 3DS has showed with Pokémon Sun & Moon that in the 2017 this hardware is old (for example fps drop and more).
We need better games on Switch, so brands like Pokémon or Monster Hunter will have a benefits by the hardware.
@Nintendam I agree with you there. Yesterday We took our car in for some minor work but ended up being there for a couple hours. There was this nice guy about 25 years old in the Lobby at Sun Auto Playing his 3DS. I had a good discussion with him about the Switch and 3DS. I regretted not grabbing my 3DS on the way out the door to get his friend code. My Wife asked me in the car if I had brought my 3DS with me. I told her I didn't need it this time. Pretty much the one and only time I didn't bring it with me. My son is a Mechanic at Sun auto. I told him if he sees that guy again to give him my number so we can hook up. I also want to have a Switch party when it comes out. More than likely it will turn into a Bomberman 94 party as get together at our house always turn into a Bomberman party.
@Falcon96 well we will see but the 3DS has release dates through late 2017 and 1 or 2 in early 2018
@Rei
It was discounted for Europe and Australia, but not the U.S. for some reason.
@Falcon96 The issue, I suspect with Sun and Moon, is that it is a rushed down port of the Pokemon game that will be on the Switch and not something originally [edit:build from the ground up] for the 3DS.
@NEStalgia Have you looked at the price of USB 3.1 C to HDMI converters?
@Malakai I'm not sure entirely what you're using them as a reference to. They're not the most expensive devices around by any stretch, though I realize at retail they're over $5 (and certainly lower than $90.) But the thing is the retail cost of a converter includes packaging and distribution, R&D, FCC/CE licensing and testing requirements, HDMI licensing fees, the external shell, cable, etc. etc.
Most of that is baked into the cost of the switch already. The manufacture of the dock itself should be quite cheap.
Or, if you meant they didn't need the dock because a cable solution could be used, that's a market positioning thing. If it's just a handheld you can plug into the TV, that doesn't let them showcase the system in a way that reaches the market they're trying to reach. Consumers tend to view everything from a "how can I get the cheapest product" perspective. Business has to view things from a "How can I present this product to the people I want to present it to in a way they'll be receptive to what it offers, and how can I make a profit on that." A handheld that could be plugged into a TV would be DOA in the West. A "portable console" on the other hand presents itself as something new, a console that can be handheld. But I still cringe when they say "home console" because that's the last thing they should be pitching it as since it invites direct comparison to other consoles that it competes unfavorably against in terms of performance.
I love my nintendo 3ds's (both old and new) but I do think that , by early 2018 we will see it being dismissed by nintendo. Fire Emblem and Shin Megami Tensei games being developed to the Switch at this point proves us that. I will still have a blast with it by the time being.
Playing BD2 on my N3DSXL yesterday, getting lost in how that tiny screen can feel like looking into such a big world due to the 3D made me realize yet agin how sadly underappreciated 3DS and it's 3D display is. It's the only system that can create this whole world to get lost so far in on such a tiny screen. Turn the 3D off and it just looks like a tiny cheap, low res screen. Turn it up and you're looking into a little box filled with a complete diorama inside.
@Windy Yes, but imho will finish like was with the DS.
Are you remember the third pillar?
It's a similiar situation. The 3DS will sell for 2 years max, then Nintendo will brings games only to the Switch.
"imho"
@kurtasbestos And most misses this essential question: what does the age of the hardware have to do with the quality of the 3DS's games? Can high quality game still be mad on the 3DS? I answer, I think, is yes.
@Falcon96 well I am hoping for 2 years myself. I am getting a Switch and agree that I wouldnt want anything taking away from it when it comes to us. I just hope Nintendo will dump this Quality over Quantity. Now Nintendo has brought us quality themselves but 3rd parties havent really lived up to it. Im just hoping companies like EA will embrace Switch and we will start to see some games on other systems we normally havent got to play unless you own both systems. When I was younger I didnt mind owning a bunch of systems. But im way older, and im talking old as dirt hahahaha.....I just like playing 1 system and have chosen Nintendo since the Wii came out. I loved the Wii along with my kids but the system seemed short on some genres. I hope the Switch will be better. Switch seems aimed at an older group so maybe it will. Go Go Go Switch!
I don't think the 3ds will survive much longer. They say the switch wasn't meant to replace mobile gaming is BS. It unifies home console and portable gaming. If it wasn't meant to replace 3ds then they should have never made the switch a tablet. I won't be investing in the switch right away there simply isnt enough games to satisfy me to deem it worth it. I will cheer on all those that do though.
I’m tempted to suggest that the 3DS, as great as it has been, is probably nearing its end.
I think we’ll see the last 1st party support for the 3DS this year, and then the last 3rd party support in 2018 (maybe 2019), with a halt to manufacturing thereabout. Nintendo will focus everything on the Switch from 2018 onwards. We’re basically having a bit of a soft launch for the Switch, with titles being built up to the holiday season, then there will be a big push. Nintendo won’t want to divide resources - the Switch needs to (and deserves to) be a hit. The DS was great and the 3DS did well in the end, but those that want one, pretty much have one by now. The 3DS tech (3D, dual-screen) is unique (and still enjoyable) but dated - it’s time for something new. Yes, Nintendo could continue to launch new games given the 3DS has a large user base, but they really need gamers to move over to the Switch. I’ve loved my 3DS (and have so much to still play on it), but I’m more than happy to move on to the Switch! The 3DS has a lot of life left in it - these things are going to be around for ages - but official support will stop over the next 2 years. However, once support drops there’s still that HUGE 3DS library… so no need to be too sad!
As for the future, we might see a budget Switch (“Switch Go”), slightly smaller, as a new fully-focused portable - but I doubt it. More likely would be the possibility to get the Switch without the dock for a lower price. Nintendo in terms of hardware seems to be really all about the hybrid - and I think this is smart. What I think we are more likely to see, is Nintendo put much more into mobile phone gaming post 3DS. There are millions and millions of phones out there, and if they can get premium games out that people are happy to spend $10 on, then thats going to be a successful business! Parents also seem more than happy to let kids mess around with an old smart phone - so that could easily replace the 3DS in terms of the kid’s market. Meanwhile, the Switch can absorb all the more dedicated gamers and gaming… not to mention a Switch could probably play games developed for mobile phones as a bonus.
In short:
2017: Last 1st party titles for 3DS, Switch launches early and library grows over the year - huge Switch marketing push for the holiday season.
2018: Last 3rd party titles for 3DS, Nintendo stops manufacture of 3DS, Move to developing premium games for mobile (Super Mario Run 2 etc), Switch library growing.
2019: Full hardware focus on Switch (possibly launch cheaper option without dock), Nintendo positions as big player in premium mobile phone gaming.
Well Looks like 2017 is the year to focus on the switch and drop the 3ds like a hot turd. Not a single VC game for 3 months going into april. All nintendo cares about is the switch. RIP 3ds
@RaphaBoss On the contrary, they want to steal the mobile market audience with the Switch. They have to make it as a hybrid, a long term affordable system beating out the likes of PS4 and XBox as their Disney-like brand power and online pricing is concerned. They want to go after families and casuals to get the Switch as the first choice system in light of the invasive mobile era stealing the thunder the old gaming industry once had.
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