Topic: GoldenEye Discussion Thread (OMG OMG OMG)

Are you getting this I missed out on hunting with you in monster hunter!

@Tech101: I'll play it on launch day with ma bro and see what I think. If it's good, I'll be all over it. If not, I'll cry.

_{well, not cry, but definitely facepalm for an extended period of time}

Yeh, there's been a surprising amount of attention for this. I've seen a whole bunch of people who don't play their Wiis(and some that don't own any) saying they'll be getting the game. It's somewhat depressing for Bloodstone because it's getting no attention and it probably cost quite a bit more to make... If Bizarre has another bomb I can see them being shut down too.

LOL what's bloodstone?

The PS3/360/PC Bond game made by Bizarre Creations. It's like Everything or Nothing. It's been largely ignored. Bizarre Creations' last game, Blur, only sold 31K in its first month.

Oh but the DS gets both Bloodstone and Goldeneye! Both by n-space and released on the same day!

The embargo lifts Tuesday, so expect a flood of reviews that day. Some other outlet might have an early exclusive, I don't know, but look for ours Tuesday, possibly Wednesday if the post office is a gremlin.

Awesome. Thanks for letting me know.

corruption, conduit, and red steel 2 do (pretty much every wii FPS).

no. there's not much the plus can add to games based on the IR camera, nor is there much they should add, since you don't want to be shaking a controller around while aiming. conduit 2 supports it for better off screen turning, but in all honesty that's a pretty mundane feature.

@552:

I don't think it's that mundane. Everything that adds to the control scheme feeling more natural should be a given, once someone has introduced it.

When you point off screen with the Wii Remote, the pointer disappears and it is unclear how the game should proceed. The game might just keep the player character turning to where the pointer left the screen, but neither can it adjust the speed to how far from the screen the pointer is, nor can it react to any position changes to the Wiimote while the pointer is off the screen. Additionally, when the pointer reenters the screen it always takes an awkward split second to adjust to the new position.

With M+'s ability to measure rotation of the Wiimote to a certain degree, it should be possible to make a pretty close estimation of what is happening while the Wiimote isn't pointed at the screen.

I don't consider the lack of M+ support game-breaking and don't know how it works out for Conduit 2, but like voice chat it's probably a nice feature to have.

Wow, I never quite realized how much of an improvement it could be. The fact that the game loses you when you're pointing off screen is what turns me off of a lot of the Wii's FPSes. I hope more games impliment a feature like that.

Red Steel 2 does this already. Try it out and see how it feels. Personally I dig it, it's very helpful.

Never played it with the Wii Motion Plus. I'll have to try that some time if I ever get that useless piece of plastic (which will probably be when it's no longer useless).

i didn't mean mundane as in "not worthwhile", i just meant it's not something that'll exactly turn the controls on their head. i use a tight dead zone and never aim anywhere near off screen anyway, so to me it makes no difference. that said, if i try conduit 2 of course i'll use that feature but the point is that it's a modest improvement at best, since there's not much room for improvement with the current wiimote shooter setup.

I'm very excited for Skyward Sword and more Wii Motion Plus games, but I have played Red Steel 2 with Wii Motion and it was not awesome. The only time you see 1:1 motion controls is when you block attacks with your sword-which is never.

Does anybody know if the online is splitscreen? I doubt it, because no games seem to ever do that (probably just so that the developers make more money on more game copies...), but I'm still hoping for it.

@Marvelousmoo I highly doubt online multiplay will be splitscreen. That would be, well, silly. The only reason they had to resort to splitscreen in the N64 game was so you could play with your friends on one TV. In online multiplayer, everyone has their own TV. Having a full screen's worth of a game is way better than only getting a quarter of the screen, especially on a standard-definition console like the Wii.

Not to mention how much it would ruin the game to know where everyone else was by peeking at their screens. And then problems with lag could cause weird desyncs to happen on the other players' screens.

EDIT: Well for competitive play anyway, not co-op.

i'm pretty sure it's not. not even the HD systems offer that, even though that would make online 10x funner.

I think he means being able to play online with a friend on the same screen. Some HD games do online split-screen play, I know Black Ops, Halo and Left 4 Dead do, but yeah not sure about that here. I'd say no, but I really have no idea.

I don't get the idea about online split screen, its like playing with your friend and with online people at the same time? Or is showing all people split screen, if its the second, why will people want that??? I want a bigger screen, and with online splitscreen these can't be a 8-players match.

Yep. And it's awesome! What's not to get?