@Dodger I'm sorry sir, but you are far too rational for this comments section. Please see yourself out.
I kid, though. Glad to see someone thoughtful. I agree with what you said. I love discussions about all this nonsense we see in gaming, so it's always strange when you see the people that just brush things off like we shouldn't be talking about them.
A friend of mine used to say, simply, "If you enjoy the food you eat, talk to your friend about how it tastes, and you will enjoy it more."
@LUIGITORNADO After being stabbed in the same eye, twice and being blind in it for 5 years of my life, I've considered it. I do bump into things occasionally, so sometimes work can be difficult. That obviously has carry over when looking at fast moving things on a tiny screen. Maybe you should be a little more courteous when we are discussing games with people you know nothing about.
Glad you enjoyed Nier. I got turned off by the large, empty sections. I was hoping the game would play more like the intro level, but for the entire game. I was disappointed to learn it was open world, because the characters and setting are INTRIGUING AF.
@LUIGITORNADO I like being able to see the game I’m playing. Why is that silly? I very rarely hook up my Switch to a TV, so the game should play well on either mode. Sadly, I found it a garbled mess in handheld mode, so it was an easy return.
All I want is the ability to back up my save games to my PC, like I can do with the 3DS. In the meantime, I’ll be the old man that yells at cloud (saves)
@LUIGITORNADO Mainly the draw initially was that people keep saying that Astral Chain is more “methodical,” in its combat. When I first read a review of Dark Souls, years ago, a reviewer at Gamespot used the same word to describe its combat. Seeing as I love Dark Souls, I was thinking that astral chain would be similar in function. Bayonetta was so fast I couldn’t see what was going on when I played in handheld mode on Switch. I like slower games, and people are claiming Astral Chain is slower.
I watched a great video from GameXplain that felt way more balanced in its review process. The reviewer mentioned that Astral Chain, while fun, is inconsistent. Like, it had a 30 minute section with no combat. For me, inconsistent pacing is enough for me to skip it. I don’t need flashy combat to stay interested, but if a game is going to rely on silly fetch quests to fill in the good stuff I am happy finding other things to play!
@Palico_extremeru Couldn't agree more, as I mainly play in handheld mode. I hope prices come down for you, at some point. I would never pay $90 for a game.
@Pandaman Not necessarily looking for a negative review, but I'm always skeptical when reviewers only say good things about the games they review. I already apologized to the reviewer, and dozens of people are jumping down my throat already about it, but I understand why you would defend a member of your staff. That at least, makes sense. Please have a wonderful rest of your day, and sorry again for the dissenting opinion.
@flapjack-ashley Thank you for sharing the other review scores. That's what is so disconcerting to me; the fact that I can't seem to find a dissenting opinion about the game. I'm open to the possibility that the game is just that good, and if that's true I'll have to try it. But, even games like Ocarina of Time, which scored a perfect 10 at Gamespot years ago, were criticized by at least a couple other websites during it's original release for it's few shortcomings.
@Tandy255 Thank you. I think it's because I was too pointed at the author of the article. In the future, I plan on curbing what I say as to not offend, but I do agree that sometimes it feels like the reviews at NL are all 7-8 and up, so it does make me wonder, as a reader sometimes.
@Damo Sorry to have offended you with my opinions of your writing. I'm willing to back down, if proven wrong. I even said so in my OP, that if enough people put their weight down on the game that I would retract my opinion and get on board with things. As it currently stands, I'm not sure I trust what the media outlets are saying. I recognize that that's on me. It's strictly personal, and in the end it's only affecting whether or not I choose to buy the game.
@antdickens I have years of basis to not fully trust in journalistic integrity in video games. There are great reviewers, and there are reviewers that tread upon that integrity by pushing a game a little too hard. Nintendo Life is a public website, with a public comments section. Why should it be above being questioned? Most of the time, I love the reviews from NL, but this one feels a little too pushy to me. I think you have just decided that you do not like me, based on what I wrote initially and my opinion of Astral Chain, in general. I respect your opinions and this website, but if something seems off I'm allowed to at least say something, especially in the civil manner I'm presenting.
@Quarth I'm not stopping anyone from enjoying the game. Please, go out and buy it and have fun. I'll wait and see how things go with the game in the future to see if I want to get it or not. Thanks!
@garfreek I'm open to having civil discussions about my opinion, but resorting to name calling doesn't encourage people to want to get into a conversation.
@joezilla83 A game that's not ho-hum to me would be anything from the Souls series, anything from classic legacy systems such as Mega Man X or Final Fantasy 3, things like Symphony of the Night or Castlevania Chronicles. Horizon: Zero Dawn.
Hopefully I'll be proven wrong about Astral Chain. As it stands I'm afraid that the hype is giving it more credit than it deserves. With games like this, I always wait for the hype to die down and see where it lies after that and form my own opinions from watching gameplay footage.
@Chunkboi79 Right! They definitely are not my cup of tea. When I played the Transformers game, I loved the action sequences, but the in-between stuff was just not for me, as it ruined the great pacing of the fights. I felt the same from Bayonetta. As I stated in my OP, I'm willing to be proven wrong. Not sure why everyone is getting butthurt about my opinion against the hype train. For example, I love Dark Souls, but I know that game isn't for everyone. I recently watched a great video of a guy deconstructing the game because he didn't like it and didn't understand the hype. I learned a lot from his dissenting opinion, and it was a cool video. In the end, I still love Dark Souls but I don't defend it so vehemently when someone dislikes it. I really hope you enjoy Astral Chain when you get your hands on it! Thank you, and have a great day.
@antdickens Is it so hard to understand that I think the reviewer is coloring the review to be a little too positive? As in, I think he's lying a bit to push the latest Nintendo game, hence why I chose to phrase it that I don't believe the review. Sorry, but that was a weak attempt at deconstructing my opinion. I also ended my original post stating that if many people ended up enjoying the game, that it would give the review more weight, but as it stands right now it feels too good to be true. Is that better?
@Morfidplays That’s exactly what I think, and it is for this reason I stopped buying digital releases altogether. It’s not a business practice that I support, and it’s the reason I maintain a small collection of legacy systems.
According to a simple Wikipedia search, you will find that while Grandia was not released outside of Japan initially, it was extremely critically acclaimed and was getting near perfect scores from review sites at the time. To say it was a failure is just outright false.
@graysoncharles Also, it’s really hard to use death as an argument for “importance” because literally nothing would be important because of an individuals passing away. The point of it is to recognize that our actions matter a lot, and that everything we are doing right now is figuratively and literally passing the torch to the next group of people that will be here after we pass. You can argue that for the individual, death makes all things lose importance. Yet, here we are, with the capability to ENJOY wonderful things like games and such. Are games the penultimate of importance? Obviously not, but to come in and just call people idiots because they enjoy something that you don’t doesn’t push the conversation ahead. Don’t use death as an excuse to shut down arguments!
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Re: Review: Astral Chain - Platinum's Best Game Ever? You'd Better Believe It
@Ryu_Niiyama I'd say it's a good mix! Remember, it's human nature. Gotta take the good with the bad!
Re: Review: Astral Chain - Platinum's Best Game Ever? You'd Better Believe It
@Dodger I'm sorry sir, but you are far too rational for this comments section. Please see yourself out.
I kid, though. Glad to see someone thoughtful. I agree with what you said. I love discussions about all this nonsense we see in gaming, so it's always strange when you see the people that just brush things off like we shouldn't be talking about them.
A friend of mine used to say, simply, "If you enjoy the food you eat, talk to your friend about how it tastes, and you will enjoy it more."
Re: Review: Astral Chain - Platinum's Best Game Ever? You'd Better Believe It
@LUIGITORNADO After being stabbed in the same eye, twice and being blind in it for 5 years of my life, I've considered it. I do bump into things occasionally, so sometimes work can be difficult. That obviously has carry over when looking at fast moving things on a tiny screen. Maybe you should be a little more courteous when we are discussing games with people you know nothing about.
Re: Review: Astral Chain - Platinum's Best Game Ever? You'd Better Believe It
@Galenmereth I too, am an old. lol
Glad you enjoyed Nier. I got turned off by the large, empty sections. I was hoping the game would play more like the intro level, but for the entire game. I was disappointed to learn it was open world, because the characters and setting are INTRIGUING AF.
Re: Review: Astral Chain - Platinum's Best Game Ever? You'd Better Believe It
@LUIGITORNADO I like being able to see the game I’m playing. Why is that silly? I very rarely hook up my Switch to a TV, so the game should play well on either mode. Sadly, I found it a garbled mess in handheld mode, so it was an easy return.
Re: Review: Astral Chain - Platinum's Best Game Ever? You'd Better Believe It
@TheGameTutor That’s exactly what I’ve said in some of my posts above.
Re: Review: Astral Chain - Platinum's Best Game Ever? You'd Better Believe It
@Olmectron Spare me your ire, I have no qualms with you. It’s been settled between the parties involved. I think we can all move on.
Re: So, Zelda: Link's Awakening Won't Support Cloud Saves On Switch
All I want is the ability to back up my save games to my PC, like I can do with the 3DS. In the meantime, I’ll be the old man that yells at cloud (saves)
Re: Review: Astral Chain - Platinum's Best Game Ever? You'd Better Believe It
@LUIGITORNADO Mainly the draw initially was that people keep saying that Astral Chain is more “methodical,” in its combat. When I first read a review of Dark Souls, years ago, a reviewer at Gamespot used the same word to describe its combat. Seeing as I love Dark Souls, I was thinking that astral chain would be similar in function. Bayonetta was so fast I couldn’t see what was going on when I played in handheld mode on Switch. I like slower games, and people are claiming Astral Chain is slower.
I watched a great video from GameXplain that felt way more balanced in its review process. The reviewer mentioned that Astral Chain, while fun, is inconsistent. Like, it had a 30 minute section with no combat. For me, inconsistent pacing is enough for me to skip it. I don’t need flashy combat to stay interested, but if a game is going to rely on silly fetch quests to fill in the good stuff I am happy finding other things to play!
Re: Review: Astral Chain - Platinum's Best Game Ever? You'd Better Believe It
@gcunit Thank you.
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@electrolite77 Why is that?
Re: Review: Astral Chain - Platinum's Best Game Ever? You'd Better Believe It
@Damo I appreciate your candor, even amidst dissent. I’m happy that you enjoyed the game! Hopefully it has something for me. Have a great day.
Re: Review: Astral Chain - Platinum's Best Game Ever? You'd Better Believe It
@Tandy255 Definitely over priced, I agree.
Re: Review: Astral Chain - Platinum's Best Game Ever? You'd Better Believe It
@NIN10DOXD Oh, ok.
Re: Review: Astral Chain - Platinum's Best Game Ever? You'd Better Believe It
@Aaronnnnn I like conversations, not necessarily attention.
Re: Review: Astral Chain - Platinum's Best Game Ever? You'd Better Believe It
@NIN10DOXD Full gamer gate? Could you explain that a little further? Not sure what you mean.
Re: Review: Astral Chain - Platinum's Best Game Ever? You'd Better Believe It
@Palico_extremeru Couldn't agree more, as I mainly play in handheld mode. I hope prices come down for you, at some point. I would never pay $90 for a game.
Re: Review: Astral Chain - Platinum's Best Game Ever? You'd Better Believe It
@Spudtendo Yep! Already mentioned. Thanks!
Re: Review: Astral Chain - Platinum's Best Game Ever? You'd Better Believe It
@Palico_extremeru Wow! That's really high.
Re: Review: Astral Chain - Platinum's Best Game Ever? You'd Better Believe It
@Palico_extremeru Gosh, which region are you in where games are $90? Unless you mean some of the $60 games with the $30-$40 DLC add ons?
Re: Review: Astral Chain - Platinum's Best Game Ever? You'd Better Believe It
@Cosats I'm not asking you to believe me, so we should be fine, in that regard!
Re: Review: Astral Chain - Platinum's Best Game Ever? You'd Better Believe It
@Pandaman Not necessarily looking for a negative review, but I'm always skeptical when reviewers only say good things about the games they review. I already apologized to the reviewer, and dozens of people are jumping down my throat already about it, but I understand why you would defend a member of your staff. That at least, makes sense. Please have a wonderful rest of your day, and sorry again for the dissenting opinion.
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@flapjack-ashley Thank you for sharing the other review scores. That's what is so disconcerting to me; the fact that I can't seem to find a dissenting opinion about the game. I'm open to the possibility that the game is just that good, and if that's true I'll have to try it. But, even games like Ocarina of Time, which scored a perfect 10 at Gamespot years ago, were criticized by at least a couple other websites during it's original release for it's few shortcomings.
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@Tandy255 Thank you. I think it's because I was too pointed at the author of the article. In the future, I plan on curbing what I say as to not offend, but I do agree that sometimes it feels like the reviews at NL are all 7-8 and up, so it does make me wonder, as a reader sometimes.
Re: Review: Astral Chain - Platinum's Best Game Ever? You'd Better Believe It
@Mycroft I already handled with the admins. Thank you for replying. I hope you have a wonderful day!
Re: Review: Astral Chain - Platinum's Best Game Ever? You'd Better Believe It
@antdickens That's fine. I can live with that. Thanks for the replies.
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@antdickens Thanks for sharing. Like I stated several times, I'm willing to be proven wrong.
Re: Review: Astral Chain - Platinum's Best Game Ever? You'd Better Believe It
@Damo Sorry to have offended you with my opinions of your writing. I'm willing to back down, if proven wrong. I even said so in my OP, that if enough people put their weight down on the game that I would retract my opinion and get on board with things. As it currently stands, I'm not sure I trust what the media outlets are saying. I recognize that that's on me. It's strictly personal, and in the end it's only affecting whether or not I choose to buy the game.
Re: Review: Astral Chain - Platinum's Best Game Ever? You'd Better Believe It
@antdickens I have years of basis to not fully trust in journalistic integrity in video games. There are great reviewers, and there are reviewers that tread upon that integrity by pushing a game a little too hard. Nintendo Life is a public website, with a public comments section. Why should it be above being questioned? Most of the time, I love the reviews from NL, but this one feels a little too pushy to me. I think you have just decided that you do not like me, based on what I wrote initially and my opinion of Astral Chain, in general. I respect your opinions and this website, but if something seems off I'm allowed to at least say something, especially in the civil manner I'm presenting.
Re: Review: Astral Chain - Platinum's Best Game Ever? You'd Better Believe It
@Quarth I'm not stopping anyone from enjoying the game. Please, go out and buy it and have fun. I'll wait and see how things go with the game in the future to see if I want to get it or not. Thanks!
Re: Review: Astral Chain - Platinum's Best Game Ever? You'd Better Believe It
@garfreek I'm open to having civil discussions about my opinion, but resorting to name calling doesn't encourage people to want to get into a conversation.
Re: Review: Astral Chain - Platinum's Best Game Ever? You'd Better Believe It
@joezilla83 A game that's not ho-hum to me would be anything from the Souls series, anything from classic legacy systems such as Mega Man X or Final Fantasy 3, things like Symphony of the Night or Castlevania Chronicles. Horizon: Zero Dawn.
Hopefully I'll be proven wrong about Astral Chain. As it stands I'm afraid that the hype is giving it more credit than it deserves. With games like this, I always wait for the hype to die down and see where it lies after that and form my own opinions from watching gameplay footage.
Re: Review: Astral Chain - Platinum's Best Game Ever? You'd Better Believe It
@HammerKirby Not sure what you mean. I played Bayonetta 2, and I was talking about watching footage of Astral Chain.
Re: Review: Astral Chain - Platinum's Best Game Ever? You'd Better Believe It
@Chunkboi79 Right! They definitely are not my cup of tea. When I played the Transformers game, I loved the action sequences, but the in-between stuff was just not for me, as it ruined the great pacing of the fights. I felt the same from Bayonetta. As I stated in my OP, I'm willing to be proven wrong. Not sure why everyone is getting butthurt about my opinion against the hype train. For example, I love Dark Souls, but I know that game isn't for everyone. I recently watched a great video of a guy deconstructing the game because he didn't like it and didn't understand the hype. I learned a lot from his dissenting opinion, and it was a cool video. In the end, I still love Dark Souls but I don't defend it so vehemently when someone dislikes it. I really hope you enjoy Astral Chain when you get your hands on it! Thank you, and have a great day.
Re: Review: Astral Chain - Platinum's Best Game Ever? You'd Better Believe It
@antdickens Thanks. I can read fairly quickly.
Re: Review: Astral Chain - Platinum's Best Game Ever? You'd Better Believe It
@antdickens Is it so hard to understand that I think the reviewer is coloring the review to be a little too positive? As in, I think he's lying a bit to push the latest Nintendo game, hence why I chose to phrase it that I don't believe the review. Sorry, but that was a weak attempt at deconstructing my opinion. I also ended my original post stating that if many people ended up enjoying the game, that it would give the review more weight, but as it stands right now it feels too good to be true. Is that better?
Re: Review: Astral Chain - Platinum's Best Game Ever? You'd Better Believe It
@HeroOfCybertron I would imagine that the R stick is used a lot to manage the camera. What's handicapping your right hand?
Re: Wrath: Aeon of Ruin Already "Up And Running At A Locked 60fps" On Switch
@vio Unless you’ve got some inside information we don’t need to listen to you. Doom 64 forever!
Re: Wrath: Aeon of Ruin Already "Up And Running At A Locked 60fps" On Switch
That's nice. Where's 'Amid Evil?' Been playing that on PC and having a blast. I heard a Switch port was incoming. Hopefully soon!
Re: Poll: Have You Played The Dragon Quest XI S Demo On Nintendo Switch Yet?
Dragon Quest 11 looks awful from what I’ve seen, so I’ll be skipping this one.
Re: Square Enix Confirms Final Fantasy VIII Remastered Will Be A Digital-Only Release
@graysoncharles Yep! Easily replaceable.
Re: Square Enix Confirms Final Fantasy VIII Remastered Will Be A Digital-Only Release
@rxchrisg You’ve never had an SD or HD crash, have you?
Re: Square Enix Confirms Final Fantasy VIII Remastered Will Be A Digital-Only Release
@Morfidplays That’s exactly what I think, and it is for this reason I stopped buying digital releases altogether. It’s not a business practice that I support, and it’s the reason I maintain a small collection of legacy systems.
Re: Review: Grandia HD Collection - Two Classic Games, Shoddily Remastered
According to a simple Wikipedia search, you will find that while Grandia was not released outside of Japan initially, it was extremely critically acclaimed and was getting near perfect scores from review sites at the time. To say it was a failure is just outright false.
Re: Yacht Club Games Broadcasting A Special Video Presentation Next Week
@OorWullie Good to know! Thanks.
Re: Square Enix Confirms Final Fantasy VIII Remastered Will Be A Digital-Only Release
@graysoncharles Also, it’s really hard to use death as an argument for “importance” because literally nothing would be important because of an individuals passing away. The point of it is to recognize that our actions matter a lot, and that everything we are doing right now is figuratively and literally passing the torch to the next group of people that will be here after we pass. You can argue that for the individual, death makes all things lose importance. Yet, here we are, with the capability to ENJOY wonderful things like games and such. Are games the penultimate of importance? Obviously not, but to come in and just call people idiots because they enjoy something that you don’t doesn’t push the conversation ahead. Don’t use death as an excuse to shut down arguments!