I love this game. The visuals are beautiful, with an almost hand drawn texture. The story is funny and charming. The world is fun to explore. Unfortunately the frame rate is a little rough, but it's not an action combat game so that mostly doesn't affect the gameplay. To me this is easily a 9/10, but because of the good vibes it's an essential switch game.
I picked up the deluxe edition, and this is one of my favorite RPGs on the switch. Great gameplay loop. Intriguing narrative. Meaningful upgrades. Graphics and sound are excellent and unique. Interesting world to explore. I agree with the review, but I'd give it a 9/10. In a year when Final Fantasy is too serious to add a fishing minigame, could a fishing RPG be the bigger fish?
Shin'en is one of my favourite developers, so this is a nice surprise. I'll wait for a sale, but will definitely check it out. I love how this developer continues to experiment with new game ideas.
@Realness Have you played golf story? It's one of the best Switch exclusives. I had no fear that it was cancelled because of the quality of their last game. Although, I did follow the studio pretty closely.
After playing Vice City for about 10 hours I have experienced it crashing 3 times. One time I was in the middle of doing the ambulance mission, which probably takes an hour to complete and there is no way to save your progress. As much as I can tolerate slow framerate, this is inexcusable. They need to patch it!
@Mrpiccolo
Thanks for doing that, that's good to know. I see where you are coming from. When these games were released, I don't remember any reviews talking about the framerate. However, there really is no excuse for this given that it's a 20 year old game. In 2001 I accepted the glitches because it was such an ambitious game, and I would say the same thing now. However, performance is another issue and that really shouldn't be an issue even on the switch.
@Kilamanjaro Yeah, we get to play GTA on the switch! I'd rather they port things badly then not at all. Good example is Kingdom Hearts. Even though I don't care to play it, it still would be better if they ported it and not done just a cloud version.
@buchu8oolong Great take on this. I'm playing docked mostly and it's ok, but not great. These are good games but they could be so much better. Review bombing is fine if it's sending a message, but otherwise it doesn't reflect the actual value of the game.
@Nintendo_Thumb The rating is based more on their expectations than the games actual content. If this was a new game by a small publisher it would have received an 8/10 or something. Since it's a big publisher and a remaster there are different expectations.
@Spiders When I said they were restrained in their marketing I was referring to them showing a short video without any gameplay very close to launch. Compared to Cyberpunk, which hyped it up for several years with Keanu Reeves, 40 minute contrived gameplay footage, false claims about game features.
Compared to Cyberpunk (the point of this article) their marketing was restrained.
@Spiders You said "You can't be definitive in some ways and not in others."
Websters: Something definitive is complete and final. A definitive example is the perfect example.
When they designed Dragon Quest for the PS4 they made the best possible version they could. Then they downgraded for the switch. In terms of graphics, the PS4 version is definitive (the perfect example of their vision for the graphics). In terms of soundtrack the Switch version is definitive.
I know it's not the perfect example, but GTA definitive edition has improvements (GPS, targeting, weapon selection) that are definitive, yet other aspects (rain, fog, framerate) that are not.
@Scapetti Could you do me a favor and check the original Vice City's motorcycle handling. I remember it being really sensitive and falling off easily. It seems they have changed that but it's been a while since I played it.
There is also some misinformation on twitter that keeps getting shared around. People should find their own glitches rather than just assuming that the glitches are real.
@Astral-Grain Well said. Finally someone with a balanced view of this. I'm enjoying exploring these massively detailed environments, finding the hidden packages and doing taxi missions. These games have so much to offer and the new improvements actually make a big enough difference that I wouldn't go back to the originals. Has anyone noticed that it's way harder to fall off your motorcycle in Vice City? You used to fall off every time you hit the tiniest thing. Such a small but significant improvement.
After Epic bought rocket league it's been a downward spiral of greed and empty updates. I have abandoned it and won't go back unless they do something dramatically innovative.
@Spiders I agree, it's just a dumb marketing term. Square Enix did the same thing with Dragon Quest 11, calling it definitive after downgrading the graphics so it would run on the Switch. It's just to get people to buy the game again if they already own it.
@DumbElder Well if you don't like sandbox style games then, it's not a bad game. That is your opinion from playing it, but sandbox games require your own creativity in making your own fun by playing with the tools they give you. My favorite things were always causing chaos and then seeing how all the scripted NPCs react or just taking a motorcycle through the most random places.
@meltendo You realize that these games are massive and the reason they cut corners was because they didn't have a massive budget. These games were never going to appeal to the mass market unless they were remade completely. Rockstar hasn't made a new GTA in 8 years. They don't care about this trilogy or crafting new single player experiences because GTA5 online will make them more money in a few months.
@Spiders In some ways this is the definitive edition. The improvements they made to modernising the controls like the weapon selection wheel, gyro aiming and button mapping make the game so much more playable. Vehicle controls have also improved. It's a mixed bag for sure, but there is some good here. Obviously it's not definitive as there are missing songs. I finished GTA3 and had a great experience. I think the negativity is overblown, but there is nothing wrong with demanding better from these companies.
@DumbElder Obviously you can have your opinion, but on a fundamental level these are not bad games. They have some of the highest metacritic ratings of all time. For good reason.
Story: Interesting characters and narrative inspired by films Gameplay: Massive, detailed open world, vehicles, weapons Visuals: Diverse environments, iconic structures, colourful Audio: Variety of radio stations, great voice actors Value: 60 hours of story, many extra missions, collectibles
This is a scrappy port of a great trilogy of games. It's a shame that they didn't respect the source material, and the historical significance of these iconic games.
I just finished the story in GTA3 and really enjoyed it. I encountered no game breaking glitches. The framerate is the biggest problem but it’s no worse than the original release. I’m not sure what you meant about changing the brightness and contrast because that wasn’t a problem for me. I also don’t mind the graphical updates, and the controls are so much better (gyro aiming, button mapping and weapon selection wheel). This is nowhere near Balan Wonderworld. These are great games with a few glitches and framerate dips. My main concern is balancing the audio levels. I'd give it a 7/10 at least.
@mariopartyfan68 I agree that most fans are too impatient, but this trilogy remaster wasn't announced a long time ago. There were no fans that were impatiently complaining. This is just a matter of a company that doesn't have the care or consideration to deliver a refined game.
This is nothing close to Cyberpunk. At a fundamental level Cyberpunk is broken. For GTA the fundamentals are great, it's just that the presentation and polish isn't there. Also, they didn't hype it up or lie to us, they just were restrained in their marketing. It's a shame, but it's not a scam.
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Re: Poll: So, Will You Be Checking Out Switch Online's Virtual Boy Service?
If this works with the LABO VR set, maybe I'll try it
Re: Review: Citizen Sleeper 2: Starward Vector (Switch) - The Sci-Fi Hit Gets A Brilliant Follow-Up
@Yodalovesu
I found In Other Waters to be too slow too, but Citizen Sleeper and it's sequel are amazing games if you are ok with reading text.
Re: Review: Natsu-Mon: 20th Century Summer Kid (Switch) - A Pleasant Vacation, If You're Patient
I love this game. The visuals are beautiful, with an almost hand drawn texture. The story is funny and charming. The world is fun to explore. Unfortunately the frame rate is a little rough, but it's not an action combat game so that mostly doesn't affect the gameplay. To me this is easily a 9/10, but because of the good vibes it's an essential switch game.
Re: Review: Lil Gator Game - An Incredibly Charming Adventure With A Deep Message
@RupeeClock
Just got released as a physical game with SuperRare Games
Re: Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom: All Paraglider Fabrics - Full List, Locations, How To Change
My favorite is the Link's Awakening.
Re: Review: Dredge - A Haunting Lovecraftian Fishing Sim That Reels You In
I picked up the deluxe edition, and this is one of my favorite RPGs on the switch. Great gameplay loop. Intriguing narrative. Meaningful upgrades. Graphics and sound are excellent and unique. Interesting world to explore. I agree with the review, but I'd give it a 9/10. In a year when Final Fantasy is too serious to add a fishing minigame, could a fishing RPG be the bigger fish?
Re: Review: The Punchuin - A Pleasant, Punchy Puzzler That's Light On Content
Shin'en is one of my favourite developers, so this is a nice surprise. I'll wait for a sale, but will definitely check it out. I love how this developer continues to experiment with new game ideas.
Re: Sports Story Will Be Going For Gold On Switch This December
@JeanPaul The amount of games on switch is overwhelming. I'm still discovering amazing indies that came out years ago.
Re: Sports Story Will Be Going For Gold On Switch This December
Too bad it's releasing so late in the year. This is a clear challenger for Game of the Year.
Re: Sports Story Will Be Going For Gold On Switch This December
@Realness Have you played golf story? It's one of the best Switch exclusives. I had no fear that it was cancelled because of the quality of their last game. Although, I did follow the studio pretty closely.
Re: Talking Point: What's Your Favourite Music Track From A Nintendo Game?
A Boss Approaches (super mario 3D world)
It's just so groovy and memorable and menacing.
Re: Review: Jack Move - A Short, Sharp, And Utterly Gripping Cyberpunk RPG
Should have been in the direct. This looks amazing!
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@Solomon_Rambling
Positive reviews on Steam, but only 2 hours in length
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In Canada GameStop is significantly less generous in its sales
Re: Review: Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy - The Definitive Edition - Three Classics In One Shocking Package
After playing Vice City for about 10 hours I have experienced it crashing 3 times. One time I was in the middle of doing the ambulance mission, which probably takes an hour to complete and there is no way to save your progress. As much as I can tolerate slow framerate, this is inexcusable. They need to patch it!
Re: GTA Trilogy Is Very Close To Receiving The Worst Ever Switch User Review Score On Metacritic
@Mrpiccolo
Thanks for doing that, that's good to know. I see where you are coming from. When these games were released, I don't remember any reviews talking about the framerate. However, there really is no excuse for this given that it's a 20 year old game. In 2001 I accepted the glitches because it was such an ambitious game, and I would say the same thing now. However, performance is another issue and that really shouldn't be an issue even on the switch.
Re: GTA Trilogy Is Very Close To Receiving The Worst Ever Switch User Review Score On Metacritic
@Kilamanjaro
Yeah, we get to play GTA on the switch! I'd rather they port things badly then not at all. Good example is Kingdom Hearts. Even though I don't care to play it, it still would be better if they ported it and not done just a cloud version.
Re: GTA Trilogy Is Very Close To Receiving The Worst Ever Switch User Review Score On Metacritic
@buchu8oolong
Great take on this. I'm playing docked mostly and it's ok, but not great. These are good games but they could be so much better. Review bombing is fine if it's sending a message, but otherwise it doesn't reflect the actual value of the game.
Re: GTA Trilogy Is Very Close To Receiving The Worst Ever Switch User Review Score On Metacritic
@batata
I completed GTA3 without any game breaking glitches, just some framerate dips. What do you mean by unplayable?
Re: GTA Trilogy Is Very Close To Receiving The Worst Ever Switch User Review Score On Metacritic
@Scapetti I meant to check the original on the PS2 or whatever you have it on. I got rid of my PS2 a few years ago, so I'm just going based on memory.
Re: GTA Trilogy Is Very Close To Receiving The Worst Ever Switch User Review Score On Metacritic
@Nintendo_Thumb
The rating is based more on their expectations than the games actual content. If this was a new game by a small publisher it would have received an 8/10 or something. Since it's a big publisher and a remaster there are different expectations.
Re: GTA Trilogy Could Be This Year's 'Cyberpunk 2077' As Rockstar Is Flooded With Refund Requests
@Spiders
When I said they were restrained in their marketing I was referring to them showing a short video without any gameplay very close to launch. Compared to Cyberpunk, which hyped it up for several years with Keanu Reeves, 40 minute contrived gameplay footage, false claims about game features.
Compared to Cyberpunk (the point of this article) their marketing was restrained.
Re: GTA Trilogy Could Be This Year's 'Cyberpunk 2077' As Rockstar Is Flooded With Refund Requests
@Spiders You said "You can't be definitive in some ways and not in others."
Websters: Something definitive is complete and final. A definitive example is the perfect example.
When they designed Dragon Quest for the PS4 they made the best possible version they could. Then they downgraded for the switch. In terms of graphics, the PS4 version is definitive (the perfect example of their vision for the graphics). In terms of soundtrack the Switch version is definitive.
I know it's not the perfect example, but GTA definitive edition has improvements (GPS, targeting, weapon selection) that are definitive, yet other aspects (rain, fog, framerate) that are not.
Re: GTA Trilogy Is Very Close To Receiving The Worst Ever Switch User Review Score On Metacritic
@Scapetti Could you do me a favor and check the original Vice City's motorcycle handling. I remember it being really sensitive and falling off easily. It seems they have changed that but it's been a while since I played it.
Re: GTA Trilogy Is Very Close To Receiving The Worst Ever Switch User Review Score On Metacritic
There is also some misinformation on twitter that keeps getting shared around. People should find their own glitches rather than just assuming that the glitches are real.
Re: GTA Trilogy Is Very Close To Receiving The Worst Ever Switch User Review Score On Metacritic
@Astral-Grain
Well said. Finally someone with a balanced view of this. I'm enjoying exploring these massively detailed environments, finding the hidden packages and doing taxi missions. These games have so much to offer and the new improvements actually make a big enough difference that I wouldn't go back to the originals. Has anyone noticed that it's way harder to fall off your motorcycle in Vice City? You used to fall off every time you hit the tiniest thing. Such a small but significant improvement.
Re: GTA Trilogy Is Very Close To Receiving The Worst Ever Switch User Review Score On Metacritic
I gave it an 8. Unlike most reviewers though, I actually played it.
Re: Rocket League Season 5 Lands This Week With A Space Theme And Grimes Music
After Epic bought rocket league it's been a downward spiral of greed and empty updates. I have abandoned it and won't go back unless they do something dramatically innovative.
Re: GTA Trilogy Remaster Music Tracks Confirmed By Rockstar
@Gerald I was just about to post this.
Re: GTA Trilogy Could Be This Year's 'Cyberpunk 2077' As Rockstar Is Flooded With Refund Requests
@Spiders
I agree, it's just a dumb marketing term. Square Enix did the same thing with Dragon Quest 11, calling it definitive after downgrading the graphics so it would run on the Switch. It's just to get people to buy the game again if they already own it.
Re: Review: Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy - The Definitive Edition - Three Classics In One Shocking Package
@DumbElder
Well if you don't like sandbox style games then, it's not a bad game. That is your opinion from playing it, but sandbox games require your own creativity in making your own fun by playing with the tools they give you. My favorite things were always causing chaos and then seeing how all the scripted NPCs react or just taking a motorcycle through the most random places.
Re: GTA Trilogy Could Be This Year's 'Cyberpunk 2077' As Rockstar Is Flooded With Refund Requests
@meltendo You realize that these games are massive and the reason they cut corners was because they didn't have a massive budget. These games were never going to appeal to the mass market unless they were remade completely. Rockstar hasn't made a new GTA in 8 years. They don't care about this trilogy or crafting new single player experiences because GTA5 online will make them more money in a few months.
Re: GTA Trilogy Could Be This Year's 'Cyberpunk 2077' As Rockstar Is Flooded With Refund Requests
@Spiders
In some ways this is the definitive edition. The improvements they made to modernising the controls like the weapon selection wheel, gyro aiming and button mapping make the game so much more playable. Vehicle controls have also improved. It's a mixed bag for sure, but there is some good here. Obviously it's not definitive as there are missing songs. I finished GTA3 and had a great experience. I think the negativity is overblown, but there is nothing wrong with demanding better from these companies.
Re: Review: Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy - The Definitive Edition - Three Classics In One Shocking Package
@DumbElder
Obviously you can have your opinion, but on a fundamental level these are not bad games. They have some of the highest metacritic ratings of all time. For good reason.
Story: Interesting characters and narrative inspired by films
Gameplay: Massive, detailed open world, vehicles, weapons
Visuals: Diverse environments, iconic structures, colourful
Audio: Variety of radio stations, great voice actors
Value: 60 hours of story, many extra missions, collectibles
This is a scrappy port of a great trilogy of games. It's a shame that they didn't respect the source material, and the historical significance of these iconic games.
Re: Review: Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy - The Definitive Edition - Three Classics In One Shocking Package
I just finished the story in GTA3 and really enjoyed it. I encountered no game breaking glitches. The framerate is the biggest problem but it’s no worse than the original release. I’m not sure what you meant about changing the brightness and contrast because that wasn’t a problem for me. I also don’t mind the graphical updates, and the controls are so much better (gyro aiming, button mapping and weapon selection wheel). This is nowhere near Balan Wonderworld. These are great games with a few glitches and framerate dips. My main concern is balancing the audio levels. I'd give it a 7/10 at least.
Re: GTA Trilogy Could Be This Year's 'Cyberpunk 2077' As Rockstar Is Flooded With Refund Requests
@mariopartyfan68
I agree that most fans are too impatient, but this trilogy remaster wasn't announced a long time ago. There were no fans that were impatiently complaining. This is just a matter of a company that doesn't have the care or consideration to deliver a refined game.
Re: GTA Trilogy Could Be This Year's 'Cyberpunk 2077' As Rockstar Is Flooded With Refund Requests
This is nothing close to Cyberpunk. At a fundamental level Cyberpunk is broken. For GTA the fundamentals are great, it's just that the presentation and polish isn't there. Also, they didn't hype it up or lie to us, they just were restrained in their marketing. It's a shame, but it's not a scam.
Re: GTA Trilogy Dev Responds To Fan Frustrations, Says Updates Are Already In The Works
My main issue is the audio levels. How did they mess that up?