Duke It Out In Kirby Fighters 2, Now Available On The Nintendo Switch

Maybe for free... But not for this price !!!

Happy it’s not free to play like super Kirby clash. Looks like fun, might pick it up sometime.

Really liked the Triple Deluxe subgame and its expanded eShop release, and the new abilities and characters seem like great picks. I think I'll buy it down the line

Hmmm, okay. Very ballsy move from Nintendo. Lol

We don't need Smash Bros. anymore

The amount of stages and abilities/characters is really good. The story mode looks similar to Smash's classic mode. Overall it looks great, but I think 19.99 is a little expensive. Maybe if it goes on sale for 14.99 or 9.99 I'll pick it up.

When you’re AAA, main franchise titles all work handheld already then the feature that made shelling out cash for smaller games kinda goes away. Not super into this myself but glad Nintendo is still making games like these, and trying to figure out where to peg the price at. Would love to see a 2D Zelda and it feels like Nintendo figuring out how to make DS sized games work on the switch is a prerequisite

@Lindhardt Unfortunately, Nintendo (so far) never discounts its published title below 33%. At least according to Deku Deals.

I think 20 bucks is to much for a game I will play for 10 minutes, say "This is cool" and than never play again

Alright cool, But where is Kirby Battle Royale 2?

Kirby Fighters was a fun minigame on 3DS. I would probably have fun with this but I'll wait for a sale.

This was very unexpected. Kept getting Smash vibes as I watched the trailer but I'm sure given the content that is expected. Interesting but I'll pass. This looks amazing for Kirby fans, though.

Nintendo shadow dropped a Kirby game at 9 p.m. EST/10 a.m. JST? That's really weird timing... Definitely doesn't follow the usual drop times for Nintendo. Did this align with something else? Another announcement?

Will download this now.

There he is!
He's the puffball we call Kirby and Dreamland's the place he defends.
He's so cute!
But he gets a little burpy, because he devours all his friends.
He's got an eating problem....

I will probably grab this at some point. Got way too many games right now to give it the attention it deserves

Will pick it up soon but money went to RCT3 this week. Shame that didn't get a midnight launch and need to wait til 2PM

hmm, stages look cool.

Where my puffheads at!

But I’d like to know how it differs from 3DS?

Not convinced the world needed cheerleader Kirby...

I'm seeing double! Four Kirbies!

I feel like the fan base of this game may be limited because of the price.

So online play is only against friends and not vs. random people?
Or do I just read this all wrong?

The random people thing was my main draw to Super Kirby Clash.

As for the price ... I dunno. I think thats a fair deal IF it has long term fun. Plenty of $20 games on the eShop that do not look nearly as polished.

There’s no way I’m paying $20.00 for this.

Why on earth would they not have added this to a Direct?!?! Such a weird choice.

I like Kirby games and all but I’m just gonna stick with Smash Bros.

Should’ve been free for NSO members. I mean it does look fun but hard to justify this when Smash is still very much alive.

i can't wait to get this next month. loved the first one on the 3DS.

Am I the only one who isn’t stressing about the $20 price point?? I can’t imagine it being any cheaper. Unless it was full of micro transactions..

Seems like there’s plenty of content for that price to me.

It looks like a decent enough game, I usually get eshop cards for my birthday/christmas, so maybe I'll get it in a few months time.

@neogyo Yeah I agree. I am actually confused by the backlash.

I'm only going to buy this if its like 10 to like 15 bucks 20 is asking a lot for a small game. I'm still going to get the game the first one was fun.

This should be a smash mini game instead. Not paying for this lesser smash game.

@premko1 Who says 'maybe for free'? Oh...you do lol.

@Franklin don't speak for me

@neogyo 20 bucks is perfectly good price. Not sure why ppl acting like this is a 60 dollar purchase x.x the levels have all had very nice visual upgrades. New stages, loads of abilities, there are boss battles, online matches, local matches, plenty to unlock, new music remixes, and various modes. Its robust enough for the price. I thought ppl would be less upset now that it doesn't have microtransactions but NOPE. I can understand ppl being strapped for cash during these times but I still don't think HAL is being unreasonable x.x

@Kirby_Girl

I didn't, I spoke regarding my level of conviction.

I would buy this as an SSBU expansion! The stages and extra Kirby powersups look right at home in Smash lol

@Wilforce It leaked, so they announced.

@premko1

Blowout Blast is around £6 right now. I think it was about 10 before. That seems to be a more reasonable price range to me.

Cool for fans who wanted it but id love a new mainline Kirby game.

I got the first one for 3DS, and it was.... Fun? You get tired of it after a half hour. It was super repetitive
It's like a Smash only with Kirby... It looks cool, but I'm not paying for it. Hope it turns free someday, maybe for NSO owners

(Sees Wrestler Kirby) "LUUUUUUUCCCHHHHAAAAA!"

Kinda wish they would have added a few more non Kirby characters. Bandana Dee and Gooey And Magalor (and the obvious two secret characters)Are cool, but I wish they’d throw in more with the full star allies treatment.

I hope there will be free dlc to go along with it in the next months! Maybe two more fighter choices and two new items or something. Just to keep it fresh! I’m sure it would get more people to buy it.

Also no way should this be free. Because then it would be filled with microtransactions, and we already know what a mt Kirby game looks like... it ain’t pretty. So shush, y’all.

Nice. Cadence of Hyrule 3rd DLC pack is out now, too.

@Yanina @neogyo While tye backlash us likely about the price, I think it's compounded by the shadow drop.

If Nintendo is making a $20 Kirby game why not show it a month in advance and explain to people why it's worth $20 when there is a free fighting game on Switch. And wasn't the original on 3DS like $8, or am I thinking of something else?

Anyway, point is, had they shown this off 2 months ago as a new Kirby game, then shown the price afterwards, people might have viewed the trailer, thought it was worth $40 or $30 and been fine with the $20. But you just release it BEFORE you announce, well they were just asking for trouble. Especially with free Kirby for comparison.

Sure, people still would have complained about the price, but at least more people would be fine with it, or not talking about it at all if they showed the game 2 months ago and announced the price today.

But we'll never know.

"I don't want to pay (the price the publisher asks) for it"

Are you guys for real? You guys whine about "not having any games" this year. Now Nintendo releases a game and you want to have it for free? Sorry, but that really sounds childish. If you don't want to play the game, that's fine. But don't start crying about the price.

Yeah I just picked it up and it's really fun, plays a lot like Smash Bros.

How is $20 expensive? I wonder if these are the same people that bought all those overpriced nintendo ports.

@sanderev

"I don't want to pay (the price the publisher asks) for it".

That's not crying is it? The customer is at liberty to decide if the cost is worth it or not.

@Yanina You can play against random people.

@Franklin It absolutely is. If you don't like the price, then don't buy it. Nobody is forcing you.
I just purchased and downloaded the game. It looks really good and absolutely has € 20 worth of content.

@sanderev Thanks! Yeah I saw a gameplay vid by now. Might give it a try.

As some of the sad people who have 100% in Super Kirby Clash, I kinda have to even.

too much money.

@rjejr yea that is a good point. It’s still kinda funny to me. I bet they would have given more lead time if it weren’t for the accidental leak.

@sanderev

Seems a bizarre attitude. People can express their feelings about the quality and worth of a product.
By the same token you could say, if you don't like such comments, don't read the comment thread. Nobody is forcing you to. You are of course allowed to express displeasure with, or disagree with comments.

To merely state that you think a product a little expensive is not crying by any sane definition.

@sanderev its look like a 10 dollar game, it was 5 on 3ds

Seems like a fair price for a decent looking game to me. I know which option I'd always choose in F2P versus paying for all the content right off the bat.

@Franklin "why isn't this free"
See the problem here? Even wanting a different price, just wait for an eShop sale. Most games have eShop sales of 10-30% or even more.

Also no game is truly free, if they made it free it would have had annoying microtransactions. I'd rather pay 20 euro one time for a game than 20+ times 1 euro for "hearts" to play a game. Or unlock stuff by forced ingame purchases.

@NintendoArchive it has more content. Has really nice full HD visuals. It runs really good. It has online battles and a story mode and more playable characters. Also the 3DS game is currently € 6,99 here.

@sanderev

You illustrate the differences between transaction models well, but your original strawman was:
"I don't want to pay (the price the publisher asks) for it" which is a very different statement.

Moreover, even "why isn't this free" is different to
"Maybe for free... But not for this price !!!", which I think is the comment you are in a very roundabout way addressing (it is difficult to tell when people construct strawmen for self indulgent purposes). The former is more of a demand, the latter a reaction to the product offered.

But in any case no, I don't see the problem. If someone doesn't feel that something is worth any (initial) expenditure, I don't have a problem with them expressing that opinion. I'm bewildered why anyone would. It is an opinion that I don't happen to wholly agree with, as can be seen by my previous comments.

I can only hope that the rest of the internet meets your requirements better.

@sanderev a story mode that is clearly just vs battles with AI. HD assets that are more than likely being reused, and I guess it has nintendo's bad online. Yay?
Buy it if you want, but it won't do well, more than likely, because its overpriced and shallow (more than likely). whatever it costs where you live, the dlc for triple deluxe was 5-7 canadian dollars.

@neogyo yea, That's how I feel about it .. I think $20 is a fair price point... it's got quite a bit of modes, they (thankfully) added online... and just a buncha other stuff that they added that ended up being so much more than what I wanted way back when the 3DS Deluxe version was initially released

@Franklin yes when I go to the supermarket I also start complaining that they set the price for the items there. It should all be free after all.

"Maybe for free... But not for this price !!!" is the same as "why isn't this free" Because any price would be to high for them.

@NintendoArchive even reused assets still need to be created, the game also needs to be programmed, music has to be composed, etc. There goes enough of work into creating even a small game. And making it HD means you'll need 2-4 times as much work than making it for a 3DS. Also it has online, the quality of the online it has isn't up for debate here. Because you haven't tried it yet.

It's not overpriced, and sure it's "shallow" yes. It's not a full featured 60 euro game. It has enough content for 20 euro's.

No physical release?

Not interested at all.

No love for Kirby games,.
No love for these stupid stealth drops.
No love for non physical games.

It takes a special game to make me break my 'Sub-£10 only' rule for digital purchases. This looks nice, but doesn't offer much that we haven't seen plenty of times before with Kirby games, so it's not getting my 'Special' tag for now. Bundle it with a Cadence of Hyrule-type rhythm game set in the Kirby universe and stick it on a cart and we might boogie.

@sanderev

This a website about games, so it is an asinine comparison. I expect on supermarket forums, if such things exist, similar comments could be found. People do, and should comment about a product's worth on dedicated industry sites after all.

Those quotes are not the same sentiments, as I explained previously. Always look both ways for nuance when crossing the street.

"why isn't this free" is arguably a complaint. Strictly speaking it is a question.

"Maybe for free... But not for this price !!!"
is a personal assessment of a product's value, and one which they are perfectly entitled to.

@gcunit

For better or worse, the days of physical games are drawing to a close. I think we might get 1 more generation before all games are digital. Either that or day 1 patches render physical games incomplete out of the box.

@Euler I’m not sure what’s going on in your post, are you singing?

Liking the Kirby love and the fighter games are actually good fun for the younger Switch Audience. I think Nintendo could have got in on a young Battle royale with Kirby too, everyone is Kirby and must suck up the other 99 Kirby's, with magic stars and copy abilities littered across the map to help. To suck a kirby, you weaken them with your copy ability then suck them up which gives you a brief spot of invulnerability. Pro players chain suck their way to Victory Royale.
Edit: also Dreamland would make for a fantastically varied map, with Kirby's zipping about on stars to get into advantageous positions.

@RustedHero i think i will stick to smash! But it does look good for kirby fans 🤔👍rock it hard! Strong

@Franklin Both are complaints, one-liners and opinions. Also they are comparable just phrased differently.

"Maybe for free... But not for this price !!!"

There is no assessment of the product here. Otherwise it would have been something like:

"This is not worth 20 dollars... this is not worth $0,01."

Which is still wrong.
It's simple, Nintendo believes there is 20 dollar worth of content here. And I agree.

I have save data for Kirby Star Allies and Super Kirby Clash, but I didn't receive the special costumes. Has anyone else had this problem?

@Nintendo_Thumb Looks to me that they use the Smash engine (camera movement etc.) so no suprise

@Fantasia I had the problem. Just start the other games, save ingame and then go back to Kirby Fighters 2

@Franklin I agree.

@neogyo I agree, $20 seems pretty fair for what you get with this game.

@TimboSlice That is what I am thinking! They might be having trouble fixing something that was hard to know when would be ready. But that doesn't justify also, just say it would be released without a specific date.

Where's "Giant Old Man Feet" Kirby?

I think the price is pretty justified, but people can think differently, we all have different criteria in terms of value.

I'm too addicted to smash though, I don't want another fighting game commitment right now. Watch street fighter 6 be announced, bye bye free time.

@sanderev

"Maybe for free... But not for this price !!!"
Is an assessment of the product. "Maybe for free" indicates that the person believes that the product is worth playing free of charge. "But not for this price" indicates that they don't believe that the product is worth 20 dollars. An assessment of the worth of the product.

"It's simple, Nintendo believes there is 20 dollar worth of content here. And I agree."

If only that were true. Instead you seem intent on branding dissenting opinion as childish'.

@NintendoArchive this is ***** lol. This game dies not look like 10 dollar 3ds games. Its loaded with more features and graphically updated too. I get if you don't have 20 bucks atm but dont go over board.

@GilbertXI the price is totally justified. 20 bucks is not breaking the bank and there are plenty of features, additions, modes, graphical updates, musical updates, local and online play x.x I really think the backlash is ridiculous lol. Look, if your moms can't give you 20 dollars now then fine. Keep playing something else or if you don't want to buy another party fighter then don't lol. This game is an excellent budget smash for those who may have recently gotten a switch for something like AC and already threw down for the console and the AC but still want another multiplayer game. Especially one for a younger audience. For the 20 bucks they get a very robust if less immense experience. Its perfectly fine.

@NintendoArchive @NintendoArchive well looks can be deceiving I guess, it actually costs $20, but that's a lot of money to some people; fortunately it's still available for cheap on the 3ds eshop and hey if video games are too expensive for you, there are cheaper hobbies out there.

@neogyo Accidental leak or not, the game was ready to RELEASE yesterday. Even if it only took them 6 months to go from concept to completed game that leaves them months to announce it.

They didn't announce a new game early b/c of a leak, they released a game they hadn't even announced yet. But we'll be waiting on Metroid Prime 4, Bayonetta 3 and BotW 2 for years.

#NintendoLogic

@Deanster101 That's just the first verse. There's more here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR6k5ZPezeE

Seems really cool, but sad to see no Mirror ability. Especially since it won the the popularity contest last time I believe.

@Kirby_Girl It was a actually a free side mode in Kirby triple deluxe, and it was good for that.

@Nintendo_Thumb I recall some years back, (4 or 5) what 20 dollars could buy you, and it was a lot better than this game. Nintendo has been overcharging on everything this generation: controllers, ports, dlc, ac adapters. As for your dig on my lack of funds, I'm just better with money than you are.

@sanderev no, reused assets don't need to be created again, especially if they're already from an HD game (Kirby Star allies), as far programming, most of that is being reused as well.
every other game out there is now in HD and they're still expected to have meaningful content in addition to they're shiny look.

Got to laugh at some of the comments complaining that it should be free or it's too expensive,bunch of tight fisted whingers.

@NintendoArchive it wasn't free. To play it you paid the price of a full priced 3DS game AT THE TIME. This is more robust version with additions, updates, and improvements. You pay less then a Full Priced Switch game at this time.

@NintendoArchive its not running in the Star Allies engine.

@NintendoArchive 20 bucks is not outrageous for this game at all. LOL

@NintendoArchive ok you want to talk new content. The addition of online multiplayer with friend or random players, new stages, new abilities and playable buddies, new boss battles, load of new game music remixes, new modes, and new items. Story mode is co-op. Now playable handheld and docked. New grab mechanics and Moveset imeprovemets, runs at 60 fps. I guess the programmers still don't deserve to get paid tho

@Kirby_Girl No, you were paying that for the main game, and it was a nice addition

@Kirby_Girl @NintendoArchive sure looked like it was running that engine, and all the new content looked awfully familiar. also, no one is going to be playing a shallow game for very long, so its online will be a ghost town in no time unless other rabid fans like you exist.
enjoy your purchase

I think this would have worked a lot better as an early Switch game before Smash Ultimate released. By now this just feels like a demo/lite version of a game we already got.

@NintendoArchive lol you are talking while being misinformed. Just because at a glance something seems familiar does not mean it is. I already shared all the things that are new which disproves its just some port. If you think the game is shallow then that's fine. I'm not going to argue its as deep smash lol. I have been enjoying it but its not going to have a smash style scene. Still that's a whole other topic and matter of opinion. You can dislike THAT all you want. Doesn't matter to me but your other claims are inaccurate. Dataminers have confirmed the game is running on something else and new features and upgrades have been confirmed by the trailer and players. That's all.

@NintendoArchive no you were paying for the cart and everything on it which includes the campaign and other games. The only way to even play it is by buying the cartridge in the first place x.x its not free admission lol.

@Kirby_Girl do send a link with all this new information

@NintendoArchive huh? What do want? Descriptions of the new modes, abilities, stages, music, and the online mode? A lot of that IS featured in the actual trailer. I'm sure more is available online. I bought the game and have been playing it for hours so I can confirm these are things added.

@Franklin Got the game and its definately worth the price. Especially when compared to the deluxe version

Join The Kirby Fighters 2 Discord channel to find 1v1 matches, people with better WiFi, share/discuss tech and strategy and meet other Kirby fans! New and old fans are welcome! https://discord.gg/eNV7wsw

@NintendoArchive "As for your dig on my lack of funds, I'm just better with money than you are."

You seem to think that Nintendo is terrible, so, go ahead and tell us which console and games you think are so good and totally not a waste of money. I can't wait to hear that, lol. And I was completely serious about video gaming as a hobby. If you can't afford to spend $20 for a good AAA online game, then maybe this isn't the hobby for you. If console gaming is too expensive for you, why not try something else, like if you have a PC, there's tons of free indies https://www.freegameplanet.com/ or they have free beta's here: https://www.alphabetagamer.com/

And if you really just don't like the game itself, why are you here in this comment section? I don't like Call of Duty, but you'll never see me wasting my time commenting in a Call of Duty thread, there are far too many games I'm actually interested in than to waste my time like that. What's the point? Do they not make games that you like?

These Kirby games are great. I have them all on 3ds. How can anyone dislike??

@rjejr ha I know right! They love keeping their games so close to their chest as long as possible these days. I’d personally prefer some time to build some hype! Tho it can be painful to wait so long, cough cough the 3 you mentioned..

• Glad to see more people are defending the price tag. I’d prolly be complaining at a $40 price but $20, come onnnnn

@Nintendo_Thumb I do think Nintendo is terrible as a matter of fact. I'm sure by the end of the switch's life cycle they will have accumulated enough original titles to make the machine worth it, but at this present time, their original 1st party library is garbage. In terms of 3rd party support, its a lot of ports, and repackaged products that are readily available elsewhere, and for better prices. There are also indie games, which the switch does have a good supply of, but I don't put much stock in the majority of independent titles.
Really the fault of Nintendo's lackluster development is as much on the consumers as it is on Nintendo, since at the end of the day it's the consumers that are defending nothing titles like this game. The fact that boxboy was five dollars and this is 20 is laughable,(I'm aware that boxboy is minimalist in its assets). Also this other game looks really familiar:

https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/kirby-fighters-deluxe-3ds/

As for why I am in these comments, I am looking for other individuals with good taste.

So you don't even like video games? I like reading game comments too, but, I don't think I'd be here if I didn't like playing Nintendo games. What a waste of time. So do you crap on all of the other game company fansites for charging money for games or just Nintendo? Because I swear you better not look on Steam, or the MS or Playstation Store or the eShop because surprise surprise, Nintendo isn't the only company that sells games for $20 that you may or not approve of! You'll probably have a heart attack when you see how widespread it is, and if you look into the history of it all, I have some very bad news to tell you: this isn't anything new at all, people have been making games of varying quality to audiences that are not directed at you for $20 or more since video games were invented. Sounds like you've got a lot of complaining to do, you'll probably have to hire a team just to send out all of those complaints. Good luck with that.

@Nintendo_Thumb I like video games that are worth liking, and I pay for games that justify their own price. Nintendo used to have such titles, now they do not. I have good taste, and I purchase games that are ambitious, creative, and well put together.
This game has none of those qualities, so I'll toss stones at it.

@neogyo I actually got around to watching the trailer last night - saw it up in the Switch news section - and it basically looks like Smash to me. Which I suppose is what they were going for.

Anyway the trailer looked good enough they could have put it up on the Switch news section a month or so ago, maybe even let people pre-order it starting last week. Maybe do those % off promotions the first week, and get people interested in the game, before announcing the price.

Whole thing is weird. Pokémon Smile got shown in a Direct.

@NintendoArchive "I have good taste, and I purchase games that are ambitious, creative, and well put together."

Such as?

@rjejr good ideas, yea that would have been very sensible. This has been such a non sensible year for Nintendo but I guess it has in general, so it can be excused ha. I hope next year they return to a more typical reveal/promotional style.

@neogyo Things going back to normal would be nice. And yeah, I suppose we have to cut Nintendo a little slack for the lack of full blown Nintendo Directs this year, and in retrospect when we look back on 2020 Switch won't look too bad as far as games go - Paper Mario, ACNH, HW: AOC - but they could do a little better job on their timing dropping trailers on tweets. I like getting hyped for games and having something to look forward too. Not 3 or 4 or 5 years, but 3 or 4 or 5 months works for me. This one may have been 3 or 4 or 5 weeks worthy, but it deserved something.

I actually do feel bad for the devs. Not the company, the actual folks who make the game. This game will be forgotten by next week, if it hasn't' already. At least they could have enjoyed the promotional phase, why deny them that? Let them gloat a little.

@Nintendo_Thumb breath of the wild while certainly not a favourite of mine, falls into that category, all of retros offerings safe for Metroid Prime 2, every 3d mario game safe for odyssey, and most of the 2d mario games. Outside of some exceptions, the zelda franchise, smash bros melee, smash bros brawl smash bros 3ds, warioware, Wii sports resort, Nintendo Land, Pikmin 3, Mario Kart 8, Double dash, Mario kart 64, diddy kong racing, Red steel 2, Rabbids go home, No more heroes (specifically the 1st one), Halo 3, Wolfenstein New Order, Rise of the tomb raider, Shovel Knight, Ori and the blind forest, affordable space adventures, Runbow, Super Metroid, Super Castlevania, Earthbound, Resident evil 4, Mega man 2, Mega man 4, mega man 3, Punchout, Punchout Wii,

If I bought the kirby fighters 2, id probably have some fun, but not 20 dollars worth of fun, it would feel remiscent of my purchase of arms which was 80 dollars(Canadian), and i still feel burned by that purchase, which is probably why I buy older titles second hand now. Got sunshine for 30 dollars, no more heroes for 20, a wii for 50 bucks, thousand year door for 30, excite truck for 7 dollars, epic yarn for 20. When you can afford one switch game a month, its all opportunity cost.

For xbox and ps4, i think their 1st party exclusives are fairly priced, despite some dlc nonsense, and i don't care for their games, but their pricing is fair.

@rjejr don’t forget Clubhouse Games!

Yea even with the covid situation, I don’t see why they couldn’t have announced the Mario collection sooner at least. It would’ve saved some of the despair of feeling completely in the dark this year. And why wasn’t Paper Mario announced in that very sad Direct Mini way back— that would’ve made it a pretty good presentation and would still have only been a few months from release.

Agree with the devs not getting to enjoy the excitement too. Once a product is out, so much energy is deflated on the part of the creators especially. It’s hard not to get depressed after releasing something enough as it is, let alone something not given proper promotion.

@neogyo I read Clubhouse Games as one of those websites were you pay $5.99 per month to play match 3 games. I was a member of a couple of those when my kids were like 5 and 7. We still quote Granny in Paradise 2 a decade later. Real Games? BigFish Games? Can't recall exactly, it's been awhile.

We skipped Clubhouse Games, we have a house full of board and card games. Joke is still funny though.

@rjejr ah I’ve never heard of such sites that’s cool. Definitely much better to play physical board games and cards. If you don’t have people around to play with tho, Clubhouse is awesome. I’ve been playing solitaire the most which come to think of it, that’s one I can easily play in physical form...doh