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Topic: Nintendo should buy more companies!!! Why don't they?

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Endriu7777

I think the idea of nintendo buying out companies to produce more exclusives is quite old and has been mentioned here quite often. What strikes me as odd is how nintendo failed to capitalize on opportunities in the past. And no I dont mean they should have bought THQ

I am talking about Cing, the producers of several visual novel games for the DS. I havent played them yet, but many people apparently quite liked those games. Yet the company went belly up a couple of years back. I think that might have been a good opportunity for nintendo to increase their portfolio, especially in the more mature rated games section, or at least they could have hired the staff after they closed shop and set up a new developer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cing#Games_developed

What do you think? Is nintendo too lazy in that department? I think they might be! -

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Peach64

Nintendo's aim is to make money. If a company had gone out of business it suggests they're not a smart investment for those wanting to make money.

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6ch6ris6

i want them to buy capcom. i think it would totally make sense

PS: why is this in the wiiU section?

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skywake

Peach64 wrote:

Nintendo's aim is to make money. If a company had gone out of business it suggests they're not a smart investment for those wanting to make money.

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Xilef

Nintendo has stated that they are not interested in buying developers, since the talents often leave when this happens. They prefer to simply work with them, like they did with Platinum games on TW101 and Bayo 2. I'm not saying it will ever happen but i would not expect it.

It has nothing to do with lazynes.

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Bass_X0

6ch6ris6 wrote:

i want them to buy capcom. i think it would totally make sense

What makes you think Nintendo would be any better?

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Einherjar

Not buying out competitors has nothing to do with lazynes at all.
Just look at companies like EA and tell me, that their assimilation tactics have ever done any good for the industry as a whole...
Nintendos way of signing 2nd party contracts is a much more healthy way in the grand scheme of things.

A studio wont do any good if its worked to the ground with the ever same products because of their contract. Just look at Sonic Team. They gave several interviews of how sick they are of doing the same stuff over and over as a one trick pony.

A healthy partnership, in contrast to a hostile takeover, more often than not results in more passionate work. Look no further than Platinum games. Still not bought out by Nintendo, but working under a 2nd party contract, and theyve reached peak performance under these circumstances.
Theyve gotten free reign over what they want to doall the while having their back covered by Nintendos cash pool.

They always have the ability to part ways, should they feel they need something else to do, but from the looks of it, they seem to be quite happy with what they are doing now.

Capcom on the other hand is another story. The Company itself is as run down as it gets. Never has a company had such a streak of bad ideas in a row and lost pretty much everything they have build up in such a rapid succession.
For them, being assimilated as a 1st party development studio would benefit all of them,
Their talented devs would be freed of the current completely incompetent higher ups running Capcom to the ground and Nintendo would profit from one of the most iconic (and now infamous) studios out there.

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6ch6ris6

Bass_X0 wrote:

6ch6ris6 wrote:

i want them to buy capcom. i think it would totally make sense

What makes you think Nintendo would be any better?

capcom has some highly popular franchises. nintendo would especially benefit from the more mature titles like resident evil. sure the franchise is not as strong as in the past but revelations was a step in the right direction.

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Xilef

6ch6ris6 wrote:

Bass_X0 wrote:

6ch6ris6 wrote:

i want them to buy capcom. i think it would totally make sense

What makes you think Nintendo would be any better?

capcom has some highly popular franchises. nintendo would especially benefit from the more mature titles like resident evil. sure the franchise is not as strong as in the past but revelations was a step in the right direction.

Why would they benefit from more M-rated franchises? It's not like the Wii U is selling poorly because the lack of them. And they could, you know, create their own. Also i think you are overastimating how much money Nintendo has. Even if they have enough money to buy Capcom, or any other company that gets brought up here, it would not be a smart investment.

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Endriu7777

Einherjar wrote:

Not buying out competitors has nothing to do with lazynes at all.
Just look at companies like EA and tell me, that their assimilation tactics have ever done any good for the industry as a whole...
Nintendos way of signing 2nd party contracts is a much more healthy way in the grand scheme of things.

A studio wont do any good if its worked to the ground with the ever same products because of their contract. Just look at Sonic Team. They gave several interviews of how sick they are of doing the same stuff over and over as a one trick pony.

A healthy partnership, in contrast to a hostile takeover, more often than not results in more passionate work. Look no further than Platinum games. Still not bought out by Nintendo, but working under a 2nd party contract, and theyve reached peak performance under these circumstances.
Theyve gotten free reign over what they want to doall the while having their back covered by Nintendos cash pool.

They always have the ability to part ways, should they feel they need something else to do, but from the looks of it, they seem to be quite happy with what they are doing now.

Capcom on the other hand is another story. The Company itself is as run down as it gets. Never has a company had such a streak of bad ideas in a row and lost pretty much everything they have build up in such a rapid succession.
For them, being assimilated as a 1st party development studio would benefit all of them,
Their talented devs would be freed of the current completely incompetent higher ups running Capcom to the ground and Nintendo would profit from one of the most iconic (and now infamous) studios out there.

You have a point with EA but IMO nintendo seems to be a little bit different. EA is out for the quick cash-in, whereas nintendo is said to be out for quality and give developers ample time to finish their product.

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6ch6ris6

Xilef wrote:

6ch6ris6 wrote:

Bass_X0 wrote:

6ch6ris6 wrote:

i want them to buy capcom. i think it would totally make sense

What makes you think Nintendo would be any better?

capcom has some highly popular franchises. nintendo would especially benefit from the more mature titles like resident evil. sure the franchise is not as strong as in the past but revelations was a step in the right direction.

Why would they benefit from more M-rated franchises? It's not like the Wii U is selling poorly because the lack of them. And they could, you know, create their own. Also i think you are overastimating how much money Nintendo has. Even if they have enough money to buy Capcom, or any other company that gets brought up here, it would not be a smart investment.

because there is a lot less m-rated stuff on nintendo consoles? i love mario and all the nintendo stuff but i want some variety. it is hard to get that with only nintendo consoles. nintendo could create there own but they aren't doing it!! and they won't do it any time soon. they said that many times.
of course they dont need to buy capcom but they should do more to get their games onto nintendo consoles. or games from other publishers like they did with bayonetta 2.
yes these games do not sell super good on nintendo consoles but that is because nintendo did everything to make people who want those games to not buy their console.

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Ralek85

6ch6ris6 wrote:

capcom has some highly popular franchises. nintendo would especially benefit from the more mature titles like resident evil. sure the franchise is not as strong as in the past but revelations was a step in the right direction.

What's the point right now?, the WiiU will not make a dent with the "mature" demographic, no matter what Nintendo does at this point. I think it's smart that they decided to abandon that segment more or less completely (no idea what Devil's Third is about, but it will definitely be a huge commercial failure anyways, and that will be that.)
Now, as for the next system, buying out Capcom for the IPs might make some sense though ... On the other hand, as you alluded to, RE is compromised right now, while Revelations was a "step up" so to speak, it was not all that great either. I mean the enemy design was rather atrocious most of the times and variety in enemies just did just not exist at all, it felt like about 4 types were included :-/ This might change with the RE1 re-remake this month and RE:Rev2 next month tough ... time will tell.
I feel like MegaMan is well on the way of fading out of the collective consciousness anyways, and it's not like Nintendo is in desperate need for some more platforming IPs. They can't be bothered with Metroid, why would the be bothered with the even more "obscure" MegaMan IP.
They already "have" Ace Attorney ... also that is not really a big hitter, globally speaking. The best argument for such a deal would properly be Monster Hunter. It looks to be crucial for them in the Japanese market, which is struggling as it is. Other than MH I don't see the big appeal tbh, maybe Street Fighter, but that is locked to PS4 right now anyways ...
Would I just love to see Onimusha, Viewtiful Joe and Breath of Fire revived? Sure, but is there any reason to believe that is more likely under Nintendo control? Doubtful, very doubtful indeed.

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6ch6ris6

it is not about the momentum now with the wiiU. they need to start to bring 3rd parties back to nintendo. it sure will not make a difference for 1 or 2 generations but they have to start somewhere

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arojilla

Mmmm... I think they need to buy games, not companies. Like if they they think a game could have decent sales on Wii U or fill a niche, but the company behind doesn't want to take the risk or make a dedicated or downgraded version, Nintendo should just pay for it. This could be the case for some sports games (FIFA, Madden, NBA2K...) and maybe, just maybe, one or two "hardcore" games.

And then keep working with other studios as they did with Platinum.

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rockodoodle

6ch6ris6 wrote:

it is not about the momentum now with the wiiU. they need to start to bring 3rd parties back to nintendo. it sure will not make a difference for 1 or 2 generations but they have to start somewhere

while nintendo has a great line up, it is barely more than a dozen games. they are quality, but if you are a kid looking at systems side by side at Walmart, nintendo's selection is going to be very small and it will be hard to win customers over. nintendo needs new IP or to take over popular existing ones, especially if they are going to go the same route (w out third party devs the next gen).

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Inkling

Nintendo should buy Capcom. They would have Mega Man, Resident Evil, Phoenix Wright and Monster Hunter under their belt. If played right, it could be very successful for Nintendo in the long run.

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CanisWolfred

I agree with the people who say they should just stick with partnerships. It's cheaper, both companies get a good say, and at some point if things don't work out, they could break off with a lot less risk involved and money lost, and they just go back to doing what they used to do.

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SirQuincealot

if nintendo really wanted a certain game on there console they could just make it themselves, tweak it a bit and change the name, nintendo doesnt need to waste millions aquiring unkown IPs when they have in house developers who are more than capable of creating there own works

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Dizzy_Boy

Tbh, I've always thought that Nintendo needs to have develpment studios under control of NoE and NoA. Why should everything just be down to NoJ to deal with.
Games like 1080, wave race, f-zero and many others that people having crying out for for years would probably have been dealt with by now. 3rd party devs bought up by Nintendo would just put more pressure on Nintendo to use those extra I,P's.

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Jmaster

Inkling wrote:

Nintendo should buy Capcom. They would have Mega Man, Resident Evil, Phoenix Wright and Monster Hunter under their belt. If played right, it could be very successful for Nintendo in the long run.

Why not just buy the IP instead of the whole company, then?

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