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Topic: How much do you actually use backwards compatability?

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JusticeColde

I use BC a lot, there are many times where I specifically need to do so just to play games.
Like now, my Wii currently needs to be repaired, but I currently don't have to money (or address) to get it repaired so I just use the Wii U. I've basically figured out a motion for starting Wii Mode without the TV on because of this issue.

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Press Power button on Gamepad.
Hold B on the Gamepad.
Select your user.
Turn a Wii remote on.
Play in Wii Mode, without having to turn your TV on.

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Rarely. I only use it to play Rhythm Heaven, and Smash Bros Brawl. If there was a way to transfer everything back to the Wii, even sending both system to Nintendo, I will. Its hard playing on a older system with limited saves and download.

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Phantom_R

brewsky wrote:

@Phantom_R
Press Power button on Gamepad.
Hold B on the Gamepad.
Select your user.
Turn a Wii remote on.
Play in Wii Mode, without having to turn your TV on.

I've tried that, but it still says the TV needs to be on. I didn't even know the system could detect that. >_>

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blaisedinsd

With Off TV play in Wii mode this is awesome....the only problem is that when Using HDMI you have to change your TV input to the Wii U in order to get in to Wii mode.

This means you still have to interrupt whoever is watching television. It would be more useful if it didn't have this problem.

Off TV Wii mode is awesome for catching up on some Wii games in my backlog. Off TV play really helped me complete Wind Waker HD while The Voice was in full swing. This is also the best way for me to play some of my N64 VC titles.

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blaisedinsd

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Phantom_R wrote:

brewsky wrote:

@Phantom_R
Press Power button on Gamepad.
Hold B on the Gamepad.
Select your user.
Turn a Wii remote on.
Play in Wii Mode, without having to turn your TV on.

I've tried that, but it still says the TV needs to be on. I didn't even know the system could detect that. >_>

You can either unplug the HDMI or turn it off in the system settings to get around this annoyance I believe. You just have to remember to put it back when you are done.

I hope they fix this in the summer update. I find it very annoying as well.

It is also annoying you have to type your password or even select a user when you quick boot in to Wii mode........

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Yoshi

blaisedinsd wrote:

It is also annoying you have to type your password or even select a user when you quick boot in to Wii mode........

Selecting a user really isn't a deal breaker. Having to type in your password is your own choice.

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blaisedinsd

brewsky wrote:

blaisedinsd wrote:

It is also annoying you have to type your password or even select a user when you quick boot in to Wii mode........

Selecting a user really isn't a deal breaker. Having to type in your password is your own choice.

Right, I figured to just have a user with no password eliminates that problem. However that it makes you select a user at all is pretty pointless.

It is not actually quick booting in to Wii Mode in my opinion. Rather it is simply auto selecting the wii mode after the Wii U boots up....it's not really saving you any significant time the way it works not.

Also it shouldn't even have to force you to have a wii controller connected at all.....the Wii would still boot with no controller connected. Let me worry about syncing my controller once I am in Wii mode. It should let me select Tv only or Tv and gamepad with my gamepad.

Quickboot now consists of picking up the gamepad, power button, b button, selecting a user if there are multiple ones, then putting down the gamepad, picking up a wii controller, if it's not syncd than sync it, make sure your sensor bar is set up if using a wiimote, point and select how to start wii mode.

That is pretty bad implementation a "quick" boot feature in my opinion. Pressing b should auto boot to Off TV mode and skip all the nonsense. If using a wiimote you should be able to press b and auto boot in to TV only mode.

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Yoshi

blaisedinsd wrote:

brewsky wrote:

blaisedinsd wrote:

It is also annoying you have to type your password or even select a user when you quick boot in to Wii mode........

Selecting a user really isn't a deal breaker. Having to type in your password is your own choice.

Right, I figured to just have a user with no password eliminates that problem. However that it makes you select a user at all is pretty pointless.

It is not actually quick booting in to Wii Mode in my opinion. Rather it is simply auto selecting the wii mode after the Wii U boots up....it's not really saving you any significant time the way it works not.

Are you the only user on your system? If that's the case, then it's very pointless.

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blaisedinsd

brewsky wrote:

blaisedinsd wrote:

brewsky wrote:

blaisedinsd wrote:

It is also annoying you have to type your password or even select a user when you quick boot in to Wii mode........

Selecting a user really isn't a deal breaker. Having to type in your password is your own choice.

Right, I figured to just have a user with no password eliminates that problem. However that it makes you select a user at all is pretty pointless.

It is not actually quick booting in to Wii Mode in my opinion. Rather it is simply auto selecting the wii mode after the Wii U boots up....it's not really saving you any significant time the way it works not.

Are you the only user on your system? If that's the case, then it's very pointless.

I have my own user account that is password protected so kids don't mess up my game saves and such and seperate user for my kids to use.

Selecting a user at all is completely pointless because in Wii mode the Wii U user that you select is irrelevant.

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almost never, when I had a Wii it was all the time(love my Gamecube games) but DS games look terrible on the 3DS.

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Smash and Dokapon Kingdom get alotta play on my wii u

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jasonbra

skywake wrote:

rockodoodle wrote:

Pretty much agree with you here..... Granted, I'm not sure how much of a drain this is on hardware. But I guess it's cool to have the option to play older titles.

jasonbra wrote:

Never use it at all. Something they shouldnt have even bothered with. Think without BC in mind, they could have made some better decisions hardware wise and could have saved some money. It really wasnt needed.

In terms of physical hardware cost it's really just the cost of a 512MB flash chip. The bigger impact is them choosing to use the same architecture as the Wii. That being a "drain"? Well it depends on how you look at it and who you are.

If you're a Nintendo only developer it having the same architecture as the Wii is the opposite of a drain. You're used to optimising for that sort of architecture so the similarities means that it's easier to make the jump to HD. They'll just take the engines that they already worked on for Wii and push them harder. Just look at how good Mario Kart 8 looks, if they had changed architectures they would have taken longer to get that far.

If however you're developing for PC/XBOne/PS4 then the Wii U being the same architecture as the Wii (and by extension fairly close to the 360) is a drain. That's why the third party support on Wii U only seems to be getting worse as the developers start to move to the PS4 and XBOne. 360 -> Wii U is much easier than PS4 -> Wii U. They could make it work if they thought it was worth it however. But it is an effort especially when PS4 and XBOne are basically the same machine.

Yup, thats exactly what I meant. Without BC in mind, they could have used an x86 cpu like MS and Sony. Would have made things much easier for 3rd party devs.
NIntendo really seemed to only think of themselves when they designed the wiiu. Sony on the other hand listened to 3rd party devs and designed the ps4 much differently then the ps3. And look at how well its paying off for them.

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I use backwards compatibility all the time. I regularly play GBA games on my DS Lite. And while I prefer to play my DS games on my DS Lite, if I'm traveling I'll just take the 3DS XL and play them on that. The reason I didn't consider buying the DSi was the lack of GBA compatibility.

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On my 3DS and 2DS, my most played game is a DS game, so I do use the backwards compatibility quite a bit. To me, the 3DS line so far is more durable than most of the DS line, so I feel better about playing my DS games on those systems because of their durability. That was an issue that bothered me with the DS Lite and DSi, both of mine having busted L buttons from playing Metroid Prime Hunters so much. One of the main reasons I even got on board with the 3DS to begin with was so that I could play Metroid Prime Hunters again on a well lit handheld.

The Wii U, in my opinion, makes backwards compatibility unappealing. I spent plenty of hours playing the games in my Wii library, and I didn't like the idea that I would have to start fresh or transfer. Thankfully, I still own my Wii and still have all of the saves on that console. It just seems really tedious to me to go through the process of transferring data when I continue to own and enjoy the console those games were made for.

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jasonbra wrote:

NIntendo really seemed to only think of themselves when they designed the wiiu. Sony on the other hand listened to 3rd party devs and designed the ps4 much differently then the ps3. And look at how well its paying off for them.

Not very well. They're selling to the same core audience of theirs, it has the same third party games, with same graphics and same mechanics, it's flopping in Japan, there is nothing very surprising there. They played it safe. It's selling to the same Sony fanboys. Will not ever reach Wii numbers. It's not like they did something new or innovative here.

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unrandomsam

brewsky wrote:

ghosto wrote:

I play Endless Ocean Blue World all the time on my Wii U. I think its a great feature plus I am sure the hdmi and Wii U hardware cleans up the visuals a bit which is nice.

Yes, this is most certainly the case. Analog signals degrade over distance whereas digital signals do not. That's the beauty of HDMI, you are always seeing what you're supposed to be seeing.

That is not true. Good TV / Good Cables / 1080p over component or HDMI doesn't make any noticeable difference. (At least definitely not compared to rendering at 720p and upscaling for example).

Audio is better over HDMI but that is all.

Less lag over component as well.

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Sean_Aaron

Phantom_R wrote:

I'd play Wii games on my Wii U way more often if off-TV play on the GamePad didn't require turning the TV on first. I don't get why I should have to turn the TV on to start off-TV play...

If I'm not mistaken it remembers the last option selected so as long as you choose to display on both Gamepad and TV it should carry on doing that when you boot it up subsequently.

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Yoshi

unrandomsam wrote:

brewsky wrote:

ghosto wrote:

I play Endless Ocean Blue World all the time on my Wii U. I think its a great feature plus I am sure the hdmi and Wii U hardware cleans up the visuals a bit which is nice.

Yes, this is most certainly the case. Analog signals degrade over distance whereas digital signals do not. That's the beauty of HDMI, you are always seeing what you're supposed to be seeing.

That is not true. Good TV / Good Cables / 1080p over component or HDMI doesn't make any noticeable difference. (At least definitely not compared to rendering at 720p and upscaling for example).

Audio is better over HDMI but that is all.

Less lag over component as well.

Yes, and I most certainly will not find the perfect TV and the perfect cables to make component more comparable to HDMI, when I can simply find a cheap, $5 HDMI and get the same exact quality as a $100 HDMI cable because of the point I just made above.

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Gerbwmu

We actually use the backwards compatible feature all the time. I think the amount we will use it will decrease dramatically starting tomorrow, unless my boys don't like the new Mario Kart as much as MKWii. I'm still working on Xenoblade and The Last Story as well, but admittedly I could still be playing them on the Wii. We have retired the Wii to the toy room so now we have the option of playing Wii games on either the big screen HD TV or the old 32 inch tube TV

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