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JaxonH

I will never, ever buy a game on PS4/X1 that comes to Switch. It is quite literally my definition of paying for less. This game is the exact same price on Switch, runs full 1080p/720p, and you get three versions in one for your money. Don't give a rat's *** about 60fps. I play Monster Hunter in 30fps. I play DOOM in 30fps. I've played Dark Souls in 30fps. It makes no difference to me- it's all the same- and I'm certainly not going to give up 2 of those 3 versions in exchange for an extra set of frames that I can't even notice. It's flushing money down the toilet in my opinion.

This is going to make my brother so happy. He's the biggest dark souls fan I've ever seen, and all he's wanted is Dark Souls on Switch, Skyrim on Switch, Zelda and Xenoblade and 3D Mario and Metroid Prime 4 and Fire Emblem on Switch, and honest to goodness, I couldn't make this up if I wanted to- The World Ends With You on Switch. He's been telling me how awesome it would be if all these games were on Switch, and lo and behold here we are- every single one of them has made it to the system.

I of course also wanted DKC Tropical and Monster Hunter, so I can say both of us are really happy right now. Anyways, back to Dark Souls.

I always told my brother if they brought the game to Switch I'd play it through. He's trying to get me into the series for so long- I even sat down and played the third game while he watched and gave advice, I got pretty far into it too. But after he left I never played it again. I've got no excuses left now

NOW PLAYING
Switch: South Park, Fire Emblem Warriors
New 3DS: Radiant Historia
PS4 Pro: God of War
PSVR:
Vita:
X1X:
PC/Rift:

Jesus is Lord.

My Nintendo: JaxonH

KirbyTheVampire

@MisterMan I don't believe I called the PS4 version the best version at all. If I did, I simply meant it was the better version of the two from a technical standpoint. Obviously the PC version of any game will always be the best if we're talking pure performance.

Yes, I did play it on PS4, because I generally prefer PS4 exclusives and whatnot to the stuff that PC gets, and I simply don't have a super high-end PC. And yes, it was playable and generally fine. That doesn't mean 60 FPS isn't better, especially for me, because I tend to notice differences in framerate, and if I bought the Switch game knowing that it was 30 FPS while I could have bought the PS4 version which is 60, that would annoy me to no end, especially because I would be playing it docked all the time anyway and don't have much use for the portability. It may not be super logical, but that's just how I am.

Either way, I'm not saying it's wrong to want the portable version of the game. It would be kind of strange not to get it if you're a big portable gamer. All I was saying is that I'm not a portable gamer and thus have no reason to get the Switch version, and that I'm frustrated that third party Switch games don't generally run as well as they do on other platforms, because I would like to support Nintendo in this area.

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ilikeike

@JaxonH I absolutely agree with you on the value of Switch games. Don't get me wrong, I love high frame rates and nice graphics, but the portability of the Switch adds so much more value to me personally. As a full time college student I rarely have time to sit down in front of the TV for an hour and play video games. But the Switch means that I can continue gaming, even on campus. I'll gladly take that flexibility over 4k or 60fps or what have you.
I've never played Dark Souls, and while I'd love the higher performance of the other consoles, I don't think I'd ever finish it. The Switch would actually let me experience the whole game, and that is just so much more important to me.

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JaxonH

@ilikeike
Oh same. I appreciate graphical niceties and performance niceties as much as anyone else. But at the end of the day, they are niceties. What's important is that the game runs and it's not stuttering or anything like that. As long as it runs and it runs smoothly, I'm good. Skyrim on Switch was amazing. LA Noire was amazing. Resident Evil Revelations 2 was amazing. Even DOOM was amazing.

Of course I can appreciate those who simply do not play portably. For those people, I would expect them to get a different version. There's no sense buying it on Switch if you only play on console.

But reading Reddit, I see the entire Dark Souls thread filled by people saying, "oh it's on Switch... but it's 60fps on PS4? Well I won't be buying on Switch then" like get out... why are you even in the Switch sub if all you care about is 60 frames per second. This is a really bad choice of console for you, because I can guarantee almost every game on the system, barring 1st party IP (and even then not all will hit 60) is going to be 30fps. It's like people just come to gloat over how "inferior" every good game that comes to Switch is. Oh, another highly demanded game on Switch? Let me just drop in to tell everyone how I'm NOT buying it for Switch because of how inferior it is, even though I was demanding it every day for the last 3 months knowing full well it was never going to run with parity to consoles twice as powerful, and even though I played the original game in 30fps.

Look how many people bought 3DS versions of console games like Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, or Smash Bros or Hyrule Warriors. And those were watered down (or missing online entirely in the case of MH), and in 240p at that. How much more exciting it is to have real console games without such extreme handheld compromise (it may not be 60fps, but it's the full console game in full HD and every bit as good performance-wise as the original).

NOW PLAYING
Switch: South Park, Fire Emblem Warriors
New 3DS: Radiant Historia
PS4 Pro: God of War
PSVR:
Vita:
X1X:
PC/Rift:

Jesus is Lord.

My Nintendo: JaxonH

Swordsman83

Am i the only person who bought switch because of the exclusives or games from the nintendo family and not for the portability ?

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Ralizah

It's pretty rich to hear people trash the Switch version for being 30fps when the 360/PS3 version was sub-30 most of the time (and practically a slideshow in Blighttown). Didn't stop it from becoming a classic of the medium.

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ilikeike

@JaxonH Not to mention that some games have had their definitive versions on Nintendo Switch. Rocket League, for example, is absolutely phenomenal on Switch. It's also a prime example of the advantages of portability and of how specs aren't everything. The resolution can get pretty low in some stadiums, and a lot of textures can look frankly ugly. But the performance is a near-flawless 60 fps, and when you're scoring incredible aerial goals without a single frame stutter, you don't notice that the resolution isn't as high as it is on PS4 or XBONE. And then you add in the portability and the flexibility it offers, and once you experience smooth online Rocket League on the go, it's pretty clear that the Switch version of Rocket League is one of, if not the absolute best version of the game IMO. Switch haters will fixate on the resolution or that 1 time out of 100 that the framerate dips, but you can't beat portability and the quality of a good port.
All that is to say that it's not likely that Dark Souls Remastered will be ruined by its 30 fps. Like you, I value consistent performance over high performance--I'll take a locked 30 over a stuttering 60 any day. So if Dark Souls can hit that constant 30, and maintain that wonderful 1080/720p docked/handheld, I will be more than happy. It's Dark Souls on a friggin' handheld, for Pete's sakes! And like @Ralizah said, the original had a pretty middling framerate and was still considered a masterpiece, so the Switch version will likely still be well-received regardless.

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MsJubilee

@Ralizah We're not in 2012 boyo. This is a remaster of a very old game it should be running better on new hardware and it is. But not on the Switch.

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Imerzion

As an owner of the Xbox One, a PS4 and a fairly decent gaming rig. I’ll still be picking this up on the Switch over all the other platforms.

Honestly. Performance doesn’t bother me. 30 FPS, I’ll take that. No problem. I notice frame drops in games that I currently play and honestly, they’ve never bothered me. I’ve bigger things to gripe about than a little stutter on video games.

My commuting to and from work is going to be fantastic with this little added addition.

Hell, I would probably get the Switch version if I never had the commute because I’m in love with the little console.

The only reason my other consoles and / or PC will get any love this year is due to MH: World.

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Ralizah

@MsJubilee If the game hovers around the 30fps mark, then it will be running better on the Switch than it did on last gen home consoles. Even though it's being redesigned in a newer, more demanding engine and is running on a tablet that's roughly the size of a large chocolate bar.

So, Switch for good performance and portability, and PS4/Xbone/PC for great performance and no portability. It's nice to have options.

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Vinny

Is this game hard like people say it is? Never played it.

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Vinny wrote:

Is this game hard like people say it is? Never played it.

Until/unless you fully get the timing of dodging attacks, absolutely.

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Dezzy

Vinny wrote:

Is this game hard like people say it is? Never played it.

To start with yes.

The game kinda teaches you by killing you quite a lot in the first quarter. It builds death into your character leveling though so it kind of teaches you whilst improving you so that you can overcome the varies tough points.

Converted from Sony to Nintendo during 7th gen and never looked back.

Ralizah

@Vinny It's quite challenging, but not randomly hard. It's not hard to be hard, or hard for the wrong reasons. And the more you play, the less overwhelming it seems.

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Lethal

JaxonH wrote:

I'm certainly not going to give up 2 of those 3 versions in exchange for an extra set of frames that I can't even notice. It's flushing money down the toilet in my opinion.

Actually the difference between 30fps and 60fps is night and day. One being ultra smooth while the other is not. You can clearly see the differences in Doom if you watch a side by side comparison with the PS4 or XB1 vs Switch.

Frame rate is more important than anything else when it comes to games. I always choose the options for higher frame rate over resolution bumps or higher textures.

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Dezzy

Lethal wrote:

Frame rate is more important than anything else when it comes to games. I always choose the options for higher frame rate over resolution bumps or higher textures.

When it comes to SOME games. Some games it's definitely a massive boost. Dark Souls is probably one of them. DOOM is another one.
But something like Xenoblade or Fire Emblem? 30fps is just fine.

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Roamer

Vinny wrote:

Is this game hard like people say it is? Never played it.

I only played 3. I say ‘played’, I actually never got past the first battle! I was never going to get on with it though and should never have bought it. I don’t like these kind of boss battles generally, my aged reaction times are too slow and you can’t even grind up levels before it to make it easier. So there was no way into the game for me.

If you’re younger and like quick reaction boss battles you might like it though!

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Swordsman83

Vinny wrote:

Is this game hard like people say it is? Never played it.

if you can't read the enemy's attack pattern and just button mashing.. yes it's damn hard.

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KirbyTheVampire

@Vinny It's basically like other third-person video games with combat, except you're not a mega-hardcore guy that can just slash through everything, and the combat has a lot of nuance, because it's the primary focus of the game. It's all about being smart and waiting for an opening, striking as much as you can, and then getting out before the bad guy can attack you again.

I would look up a few minutes of it on YouTube, and you'll get a decent feel for what the game is like.

If you've ever played Monster Hunter, it's kind of like that, although some might argue that it's not quite as forgiving.

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Zuljaras

This thread should be called Doom Switch FPS 2.0

The same stupid argument again. People asking "hurrr duur why would I play at 30 when I could play it at 60 fps. Huuurrrr duuurrr". Same over and over.
Why asking when you already know the answer? Just be glad you have the option.
The worst part is that this will be repeating for every damn port of older game on to the switch.

Cant wait to see the GTAV, Fallout and Wolfenstein threads with the same crap again.

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