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@LDXD I understand what you mean. It would be presumptuous of me to say that they could have figured something out. I do BELIEVE it would be possible but I can't know. All I am saying is that for me, the camera became an issue, and while I appreciate the co-op, this game just doesn't stand up to the standard of Mario 64 and Galaxy 1 and 2 in my opinion for the reasons I described above. I will never say 3D World isn't a good game, I just don't see it as deserving of the universal praise it has received.
@JaxonH I know about how to move the camera in 3D World, but it is hardly the same as a free moving camera, and doesn't even have that limited freedom when playing co-op. Obviously most games don't have stereoscopic 3D, but most 3D games do have a free moving camera. 3D Land worked with the limited camera angles because of the stereoscopic 3D in my opinion. This is why I think the structure of the game doesn't translate well from the 3DS to the Wii U, though I do think the multiplayer works. I just wish you could choose more challenging difficulty options such as not having a player return once he dies, or failing a stage unless all players make it through without ever dying. It takes a lot of the bite away when players can just take turns dying and coming back until the stage is finished.
Am I the only person disappointed with this game? Don't get me wrong, it's a good game, but too much of the platforming in this game seems familiar, and uninspired. But my biggest gripe is that the fixed camera without the stereoscopic 3D of 3D Land has made it very hard for me to judge depth. On more than one occasion, I have fallen simply because I wasn't able to judge just how deep into the screen and away from the camera I was.
Again, good game, but to me not the 10/10 it has received in so many reviews. To me, Pikmin 3 has been the Wii U GOTY. Sorry if that rubs anyone the wrong way, it's just my opinion.
I thought Fire Emblem: Awakening was incredible. That game already seems to be getting forgotten a bit after New Leaf, X and Y, and A Link Between Worlds. Awakening absolutely belongs in the best handheld game of the year conversation, and yet it is being overlooked even when it comes to nominations. I guess that's what it gets for coming out early in the year.
I never get tired of seeing those wheels turn sideways and glow blue. Shame we didn't get any new information on a release window. I would have been happy to have it narrowed down to a month at least.
I don't think any new game announcements at this point are particularly likely, though it would be amazing. I will be happy if we get firm release dates for every game coming out by the end of June.
I agree that Nintendo should avoid developing games for smart devices, nor should they bring their current games to those platforms. However, I don't see classic games originally released on the NES, SNES, GBA, etc. being released on smart devices posing a threat to Nintendo's own platforms. Will gamers stop buying 3DS's and Wii U's when Super Mario Bros. 3 is available on the iPhone yet games like Animal Crossing: New Leaf and Pikmin 3 are not?
The Virtual Console is a wonderful service, but probably not one that does a heck of a lot to drive hardware sales. I would argue that those who prefer their buttons would still buy those games on Nintendo platforms, and those who don't have that preference are in most cases not buying dedicated-gaming devices anyway. Additionally, Nintendo's franchises are still recognizable enough to succeed on smart devices where other properties fail.
I'm curious what the Nintendo Life staff's take on this strategy is.
@DStroke I believe you can still get yourself the Season Pass as long as you haven't purchased any DLC for the game yet. You should see it on the eShop for $19.99 if you're in the States.
Already got the season pass. I didn't care for the Millennium Pack skins nor Gotham by Gaslight, but I am genuinely looking forward to the Long Halloween skin (not that skins are really that important). Hopefully the Black Mask Challenge will be worthwhile, but the narrative DLC is where I'm hoping this will really shine. If it has as much value as Harley Quinn's Revenge then I'll be pleased.
I expect that Nintendo is waiting for the release of Super Mario 3D World and the start of the holiday shopping season before beginning a new marketing/messaging campaign for the Wii U. If the advertisements aren't more apparent at the end of November, I will be confounded.
@BulbasaurusRex Absolutely. Not sure if they can find a FPS control scheme that will work on the 3DS, but they are doing some interesting things. I'll pay attention to this one.
For the non-computer scientists here, the fact that they coded the engine entirely in assembly is a pretty big deal. Coding in a higher level language like C gets translated in a "best attempt at efficiency" assembly code. Coding directly in assembly means a heck of a lot more work, but can result in a much more efficiently running engine, and one that is more tailor made to the hardware. I'm not sure how common this is in the industry, but I suspect it is quite rare. Intriguing.
Your advice was very helpful! Thank you for taking the time to respond to my comment. I will definitely be downloading this game, and it only took a few words from the developer to convince me I'm looking forward to it
And I appreciate your words as to why you like "real gamers." In response, I can say that many of us are truly grateful for developers like you who take their craft so seriously and work so hard to create games that you clearly have so much pride in.
I wish games like this had demos available on the eShop. While I am sure this is a great game, I'm not convinced it's a game for me. If I could have a 15 to 30 minute trial run with a digital download title, then I think I could decide if I wanted it.
Doesn't make much sense. The install base for the 3DS is already fairly high, so you would have to figure that the vast majority of people interested in this title already have it. As such, this doesn't seem like it can sell many copies, let alone be a Wii U system seller. Unless a Wii U version would have significant enhancements or bonus experiences to encourage double dipping, this probably wouldn't perform very well.
On the other hand, a remake of the original, or a digital re-release, could attract a lot of people who played New Moon (2) but didn't play the original.
"From a value perspective, it’s hard not to add up all these features and compare them against the full retail price that Nintendo is asking."
Is it different in the UK than it is in the US, because in the States, the Wind Waker's price is $49.99 and a full retail Wii U game is usually $59.99. Rayman Legends, for example, costs $59.99.
I'm not sure it matters. If I'm in Japan, I am aware of the price drop in North America and Europe and I am expecting that price drop in Japan any time now. It still makes sense to wait. Obviously the Wii U wasn't selling well before either. I am just suggesting that this may be why Wonderful 101 and Pikmin 3 aren't doing more to sell hardware now.
I preordered RL along with Pikmin 3 back when Best Buy had a buy 1 Wii U game, get a second for half price deal. I'm still not regretting that decision
Shouldn't Wonderful 101 be on the list of games that were dropped since the last article? Also, looking forward to all the first party titles immensely (except Fit and Party) and definitely think Lost World and Shovel Knight will be worth paying attention to. I hope both get demos to help me decide.
If Nintendo cuts the price of the Wii U before the holiday and sales don't markedly and permanently improve, there is no silver lining and there is no fix. The next six months are beyond critical. They will determine if the Wii U can be viable.
It might not be surprising how little video game industry analysts seem to actually know about video games, but it is perplexing how short sighted they can be.
I have been aware of the F-Zero franchise for a long time, but haven't played any of the games until the original was released on the Wii U eShop a few months ago. I can see why the series has so many fans and would love the opportunity to get my hands on some other games in the series. An HD remake would be very cool indeed.
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Re: Video: Please Don't Let This Wii U Star Fox Footage Get Your Hopes Up
@linksmash-z0-9 Who doesn't love Link
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Re: Video: Please Don't Let This Wii U Star Fox Footage Get Your Hopes Up
I don't think a new Star Fox game is that unlikely, but I think we'd see it on the 3DS rather than the Wii U.
Re: Feature: The Biggest Wii U Games of 2014
I hope the Wii U gets more first party games than that over the course of the year.
Re: Site News: How was 2013 for Nintendo Life?
Always a pleasure to visit NintendoLife. Keep up the great work, and Happy New Year!
Re: Game of the Year: Nintendo Life Readers' Awards 2013
The voters did a great job. I don't personally agree 100% with everything, but clearly everything that received recognition was deserving.
Re: Feature: 12 Days of Christmas - Super Mario 3D World Captures Hearts
@LDXD I understand what you mean. It would be presumptuous of me to say that they could have figured something out. I do BELIEVE it would be possible but I can't know. All I am saying is that for me, the camera became an issue, and while I appreciate the co-op, this game just doesn't stand up to the standard of Mario 64 and Galaxy 1 and 2 in my opinion for the reasons I described above. I will never say 3D World isn't a good game, I just don't see it as deserving of the universal praise it has received.
Re: Feature: 12 Days of Christmas - Super Mario 3D World Captures Hearts
@JaxonH I know about how to move the camera in 3D World, but it is hardly the same as a free moving camera, and doesn't even have that limited freedom when playing co-op. Obviously most games don't have stereoscopic 3D, but most 3D games do have a free moving camera. 3D Land worked with the limited camera angles because of the stereoscopic 3D in my opinion. This is why I think the structure of the game doesn't translate well from the 3DS to the Wii U, though I do think the multiplayer works. I just wish you could choose more challenging difficulty options such as not having a player return once he dies, or failing a stage unless all players make it through without ever dying. It takes a lot of the bite away when players can just take turns dying and coming back until the stage is finished.
Re: Feature: 12 Days of Christmas - Super Mario 3D World Captures Hearts
Am I the only person disappointed with this game? Don't get me wrong, it's a good game, but too much of the platforming in this game seems familiar, and uninspired. But my biggest gripe is that the fixed camera without the stereoscopic 3D of 3D Land has made it very hard for me to judge depth. On more than one occasion, I have fallen simply because I wasn't able to judge just how deep into the screen and away from the camera I was.
Again, good game, but to me not the 10/10 it has received in so many reviews. To me, Pikmin 3 has been the Wii U GOTY. Sorry if that rubs anyone the wrong way, it's just my opinion.
Re: Video: Just Look For The U On The Box, Nintendo's New Wii U Promotion Helpfully Suggests
This perfectly communicates what the Wii U is and what it offers, and only 1 year late!
Re: UK Magazine EDGE Names Nintendo Publisher Of The Year
I thought Fire Emblem: Awakening was incredible. That game already seems to be getting forgotten a bit after New Leaf, X and Y, and A Link Between Worlds. Awakening absolutely belongs in the best handheld game of the year conversation, and yet it is being overlooked even when it comes to nominations. I guess that's what it gets for coming out early in the year.
Re: Rosalina, Baby Characters, New Courses And Unique Rides All Confirmed For Mario Kart 8
I never get tired of seeing those wheels turn sideways and glow blue. Shame we didn't get any new information on a release window. I would have been happy to have it narrowed down to a month at least.
Re: Nintendo Direct Focusing On Wii U And 3DS Games Coming Spring 2014 To Air Tomorrow
I don't think any new game announcements at this point are particularly likely, though it would be amazing. I will be happy if we get firm release dates for every game coming out by the end of June.
Re: Feature: 12 Days of Christmas - Pikmin 3 Finally Ended the Long Wait
Probably my favorite game on the Wii U, though I still haven't finished 3D World.
Re: Aussie Pirate Sued For Illegally Sharing New Super Mario Bros. Gets Ganon Statue From Nintendo
Seems like he was asking to be sued bye Nintendo. Not really sure why he ended up with the Ganondorf figure, but whatever.
Re: Nintendo Confirms That Smash Bros. Isn't Lined Up for Spring
That's disappointing.
Re: Talking Point: Moving To Smartphones Is Not The Answer For Nintendo
I agree that Nintendo should avoid developing games for smart devices, nor should they bring their current games to those platforms. However, I don't see classic games originally released on the NES, SNES, GBA, etc. being released on smart devices posing a threat to Nintendo's own platforms. Will gamers stop buying 3DS's and Wii U's when Super Mario Bros. 3 is available on the iPhone yet games like Animal Crossing: New Leaf and Pikmin 3 are not?
The Virtual Console is a wonderful service, but probably not one that does a heck of a lot to drive hardware sales. I would argue that those who prefer their buttons would still buy those games on Nintendo platforms, and those who don't have that preference are in most cases not buying dedicated-gaming devices anyway. Additionally, Nintendo's franchises are still recognizable enough to succeed on smart devices where other properties fail.
I'm curious what the Nintendo Life staff's take on this strategy is.
Re: Wii U Console Sales Climb in Japan as 3DS XL Maintains Dominance
Why aren't 2DS numbers being included in these reports?
Re: VGX Award Ceremony To Include New Footage of an Upcoming Wii U Game
New Tropical Freeze footage. Now that Super Mario 3D Land and A Link Between Worlds is out, they need to start building hype for their next game.
Re: Video: Batman: Arkham Origins Initiation DLC Trailer Shows Off Challenge Maps With Story Elements
@DStroke I believe you can still get yourself the Season Pass as long as you haven't purchased any DLC for the game yet. You should see it on the eShop for $19.99 if you're in the States.
Re: New Batman: Arkham Origins DLC Arrives, Major Story-Based Content Coming in 2014
Already got the season pass. I didn't care for the Millennium Pack skins nor Gotham by Gaslight, but I am genuinely looking forward to the Long Halloween skin (not that skins are really that important). Hopefully the Black Mask Challenge will be worthwhile, but the narrative DLC is where I'm hoping this will really shine. If it has as much value as Harley Quinn's Revenge then I'll be pleased.
Re: Soapbox: Super Mario 3D World's Playful Whimsy is Refreshing, But Faces a Vital Commercial Test
I agree!
Re: Wii U System Update 4.0.2 Goes Live
I updated and then went to the eShop to download the Arkham City Millenium Pack. No issues.
Re: Paradise Lost: First Contact Makes Wii U A New Priority
Actually, this game DOES look pretty awesome...
Re: A Fresh Batch of Lovely Super Mario 3D World Screens is Ready
Man, these screens are spectacular. This game keeps looking better and better! Gotta finish Arkham Origins before Nov. 22...
Re: Marth Confirmed as the Latest Challenger in Super Smash Bros. Wii U and 3DS
I bet Chrom will join him.
Re: Poll: Is Nintendo's Wii U Advertising and Marketing Doing Enough?
I expect that Nintendo is waiting for the release of Super Mario 3D World and the start of the holiday shopping season before beginning a new marketing/messaging campaign for the Wii U. If the advertisements aren't more apparent at the end of November, I will be confounded.
Re: Super Mario 3D World's Team Highlights the Values of Accessibility and Empathy
Quite excited, actually.
Re: VD-Dev Aiming For 60 Frames Per Second For Gears Of War-Style 3DS Shooter IronFall
@WinterWarm
I'm surprised to.
Re: VD-Dev Aiming For 60 Frames Per Second For Gears Of War-Style 3DS Shooter IronFall
@BulbasaurusRex Absolutely. Not sure if they can find a FPS control scheme that will work on the 3DS, but they are doing some interesting things. I'll pay attention to this one.
Re: VD-Dev Aiming For 60 Frames Per Second For Gears Of War-Style 3DS Shooter IronFall
For the non-computer scientists here, the fact that they coded the engine entirely in assembly is a pretty big deal. Coding in a higher level language like C gets translated in a "best attempt at efficiency" assembly code. Coding directly in assembly means a heck of a lot more work, but can result in a much more efficiently running engine, and one that is more tailor made to the hardware. I'm not sure how common this is in the industry, but I suspect it is quite rare. Intriguing.
Re: First Impressions: Shovel Knight
Yup, looking forward to this one
Re: Interview: Image & Form CEO Brjann Sigurgeirsson Talks SteamWorld Dig And Working On The eShop
@imageform
Your advice was very helpful! Thank you for taking the time to respond to my comment. I will definitely be downloading this game, and it only took a few words from the developer to convince me I'm looking forward to it
And I appreciate your words as to why you like "real gamers." In response, I can say that many of us are truly grateful for developers like you who take their craft so seriously and work so hard to create games that you clearly have so much pride in.
Re: Interview: Image & Form CEO Brjann Sigurgeirsson Talks SteamWorld Dig And Working On The eShop
I wish games like this had demos available on the eShop. While I am sure this is a great game, I'm not convinced it's a game for me. If I could have a 15 to 30 minute trial run with a digital download title, then I think I could decide if I wanted it.
Re: US Retailer Lists Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon For Wii U
Or a Wii U sequel would obviously be a hit, though it seems a little early to expect that...
Re: US Retailer Lists Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon For Wii U
Doesn't make much sense. The install base for the 3DS is already fairly high, so you would have to figure that the vast majority of people interested in this title already have it. As such, this doesn't seem like it can sell many copies, let alone be a Wii U system seller. Unless a Wii U version would have significant enhancements or bonus experiences to encourage double dipping, this probably wouldn't perform very well.
On the other hand, a remake of the original, or a digital re-release, could attract a lot of people who played New Moon (2) but didn't play the original.
Re: Video: Let's Play DuckTales: Remastered - Episode II: The Amazon
Man, watching this is better than playing yourself
Re: Super Mario 3D World Brings New Power-Ups to the Mushroom Kingdom
This game now now has my attention, though it still looks very 2.5 D to me.
Re: Toon Link Adventuring Onto Smash Bros. Wii U and 3DS
He doesn't look cel-shaded to me. Looks odd.
Re: Feature: Why Zelda: Wind Waker HD Is The Perfect Game For Families
Very cute!
Re: Review: The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD (Wii U)
No mention of hero mode?
Re: Review: The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD (Wii U)
"From a value perspective, it’s hard not to add up all these features and compare them against the full retail price that Nintendo is asking."
Is it different in the UK than it is in the US, because in the States, the Wind Waker's price is $49.99 and a full retail Wii U game is usually $59.99. Rayman Legends, for example, costs $59.99.
Re: The Wii U Continues to Struggle in Japanese Charts
@Koto
I'm not sure it matters. If I'm in Japan, I am aware of the price drop in North America and Europe and I am expecting that price drop in Japan any time now. It still makes sense to wait. Obviously the Wii U wasn't selling well before either. I am just suggesting that this may be why Wonderful 101 and Pikmin 3 aren't doing more to sell hardware now.
Re: The Wii U Continues to Struggle in Japanese Charts
Nintendo just announced a price cut that hasn't taken effect yet. Why would anyone buy a Wii U between now and then?
Re: Rayman Legends Sells More Copies In The UK On Wii U Than Any Other Format
I preordered RL along with Pikmin 3 back when Best Buy had a buy 1 Wii U game, get a second for half price deal. I'm still not regretting that decision
Re: Feature: The Biggest Wii U Games of 2013 - Autumn / Fall Edition
Shouldn't Wonderful 101 be on the list of games that were dropped since the last article? Also, looking forward to all the first party titles immensely (except Fit and Party) and definitely think Lost World and Shovel Knight will be worth paying attention to. I hope both get demos to help me decide.
Re: Super Mario 3D World and Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze Dated for Holiday Bonanza
Getting both, but not necessarily right away.
Re: Video: UK Comic Rufus Hound Explains The Wii U Difference
That is seriously Nintendo's best effort at explaining the Wii U to date by far!
Re: IGN Editor: If Wii U Doesn't Pick Up, Nintendo Should Look To New Hardware
If Nintendo cuts the price of the Wii U before the holiday and sales don't markedly and permanently improve, there is no silver lining and there is no fix. The next six months are beyond critical. They will determine if the Wii U can be viable.
Re: Nintendo Feels That Working On Smartphones And Tablets Would "Decrease Brand Value"
It might not be surprising how little video game industry analysts seem to actually know about video games, but it is perplexing how short sighted they can be.
Re: Talking Point: F-Zero GX HD Could Boost the Franchise onto Wii U
I have been aware of the F-Zero franchise for a long time, but haven't played any of the games until the original was released on the Wii U eShop a few months ago. I can see why the series has so many fans and would love the opportunity to get my hands on some other games in the series. An HD remake would be very cool indeed.