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When someone uses the word simp it's a good time end the conversation. If being excited about NFTs wasn't the first good clue.

@TheAwesomeBowser Close. They're glorified links to jpegs (and other things) that use a tremendous amount of energy (i.e. carbon release) to make, and serve no real purpose. They don't confirm ownership and they don't seem to confer any rights.

The only people I've seen excited about them are speculative investors spending money on NFTs of really bad cartoons. It's very very strange. At least buying tulip bulbs got you some nice tulips.

@Daniel36 It's baffling.

And it's very bad-faith arguing.

People need to attack the ball not the man. But as the value proposition of the expansion pack is TOTALLY subjective it's not like there's going to be a right answer.

@johnvboy in the pay of 'Big VidjaGame?'

@BloodNinja All due respect (and I'm answering out of respect, the same reason I haven't answered another comment by another user), I have thought it through. But we're entitled to different opinions. Mine is that youtube is aimed at a very specific niche of Nintendo consumers, and as someone posted below, the backlash against Pokemon, seemed to have little effect on the bottom line.

What is likely to happen it seems to me, is that they will add more content, and some people will say this is caving to customer discontent and some will say it was always part of their weird plan (don't get me wrong, Nintendo has weird plans...).

On the degrees thread, I didn't actually get the Politics degree (credit crunch, needed money, etc...) but my point is I have studied statistics and I can assure you this is not a scientifically valid sample.

@johnvboy I wish Nintendo paid me for occasionally sticking up for animal crossing, or downplaying the significance of youtube dislikes, but I fear it would be less than my real job. Did they make you a better offer? /s

@Einherjar But you don't get it! The fact the option exists is too much to stomach! /s

@BloodNinja The form of feedback they will care about is whether they made more or less money than they expected.

If by this time next year they've added two more consoles maybe a couple more games for free, I think they'll have got a fair number on board. Youtube approval is about as real as metacritic review bombing though.

What we can agree on is that at least a moderate number of people were annoyed. Whether that matters or not is another question. If Nintendo were bothered by anything on the internet it would probably be the specific critiques of the service which they can either fix if valid or dismiss if not.

@Beaucine For all my anti-complaining rants, I agree there should be customise-able button mapping per game, and there should probably be filters (as well as rewind functionality a la snes). But some of that stuff did come later for the nes/snes emulators so there is hope they will fix it.

@BloodNinja It isn't a sample though. It's a self-selecting group of people that care enough to click an opinion on a relatively obscure youtube video. It's near to the definition of unscientific (source: my science degree and post graduate politics study)

@WhiteUmbrella Stats 101 is that correlation does not equal causation (i.e. it's likely that a game that gets a poor reception will have a poor youtube response, the other way around does not follow).

I'm not sure what you were trying to say with your reply to me. That a large number of Switch Online users care enough about the service to read about it or post about it on the internet?

I assume most people get the basic tier because they need it to play online, and then look at what the extended tier offers and decide whether that's something they want or not.

@XBontendo I got a lot of hours out of Mario's Super Picross but then I'm a nerd. Also I think I can speak Japanese fluently now.

@Sunsy But then they don't make hardware so they have to make money in another way.

@Agent_5 That's what makes the music switch on and off.

@Clyde_Radcliffe It's probably not aged as well as people remember, and Saturn and PS1 may be better consoles, but neither of them had Nintendo games...

This article actually kind of bothers me.

Despite the fact that it's NOT NEWS (Thanks, Al Murray) it's asking for comments that we've already had THIS WEEK.

Some people think it's good value, some don't. I'm even tired of listening to my own opinion!

@Agent_5 stop pressing the L button when you're racing.

@johnvboy And a massive percentage of Switch Online subscribers (at either tier) are not even going to be aware that Nintendo has a youtube channel...

Comparing Games As A Service (I'm thinking of Fortnite) with this is comparing Apples and Oranges.

Fortnite offers a great value proposition, in that you can get the whole game experience for free, but they're clearly making a lot on cosmetics, but on the other hand, ACNH has had loads of content added despite only paying once for the product with no requests for more money (unless you include sanrio amiibo cards). The DLC basically seems like a new game. But this was never a Game As A Service, and really if they'd not added anything to the game, you would have got exactly what you paid for (and with basically no bugs!).

@Zach ($20 per year, surely?)

@Friendly And we don't really know the full story. Did they take decisions as a result of Covid, and wanting to get a working game out to people? I'm happy they did. The game made a massive difference to our household over lockdown. And now after a break we can get back into it.

@Beatley82 In fairness the last year and a half has been a bit of a blur...

@ObeseChihuahua2 It's so inconsequential. It's a video game that gives hours of enjoyment, and the only people complaining about lack of features are the people that ALREADY OWN the other game.

I mean the state of things happening in the world!

@TDCinFL But like people have said it totally misses the point of the portability of the switch. I don’t mind stadia I’ve got one but don’t really use it, but it’s a much better system for cloud gaming. And you can play loads for ‘free’ with a pro subscription. Getting a stadia set up or even an x box series s is pretty cheap. If people want those next gen aaa games that’s a far better way to play them (streaming or not).

@JohnnyC unless they have a better portable experience. Like Tetris Effect. Or many Indies or retro games.

@Gwynbleidd Agreed. And same arguments with people saying Nintendo needs to improve their hardware! All the first party games I want to play play great, as do decent third party games. But half the point of Nintendo is their first party exclusive games. You don’t buy it to play Assassin’s Creed (or whatever).

@blockfight but when half the point of playing console games is consistency of experience, it’s not exactly confidence-inspiring that two people with fast internet will get different experiences for (!) £60 (or that your experience will be consistent from one day to the next).

@CharlieGirl Time flies! Thanks everybody for the schooling!

I've never played, but what's the reason they released a new game so soon, instead of DLC? Seems like it will kill sales of the other game.

@sanderev "million and first"

@BlackenedHalo Please tell me that 'evil' quote was ironic.

@BoostPower Oh, to live your nightmares.

@Kieroni But the people guessing were totally clueless. Of course they wouldn't have a $5 add on... In that case they would just raise the price across the board! If you're an ACNH fan, then the addition of the DLC made it good value. Especially for people with family subscriptions (I AM paying an extra £4 per year). But no one has to buy it. No one is penalised for not buying it. They've not raised the price of the base subscription. So it's hard to see what the complaint is.

All the people touting rom emulation (and I've got no massive problem with emulation of decades old games), can you honestly describe a system cheaper than a Switch that emulates N64 well? Even a homebrew switch wasn't emulating N64 well.

@1UP_MARIO If you start each game with the konami code, you'll be issue-free. IYKYK.

@faint So... In summary...

@riccyjay It is a little awkward, but for people that are that bothered, they can buy the controller. It's not too expensive.

@oconnoclast There's different mapping in different games, c buttons aren't mapped to the right stick in sin and punishment.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-01-22-mario-kart-64-doesnt-have-ghost-data-on-wii-u

So this has been a known issue, FOREVER.

@Scapetti and you can just use the a-button to strafe right. There's about three reasons why it's not an issue.

How does this compare with VC versions? (i.e. how likely is it to be fixed quickly?)

(edit: it is the same)

@Nuclearpineapple it’s not the majority though. It’s the vocal minority of a Nintendo fan site.

@johnvboy For a braindead fan, I'm doing all right for myself.

Business lesson everyone: why are Nintendo offering these games for rent rather than purchase? Because every console offers a subscription model it's a guaranteed way to keep income coming in. And they need to offer more value than just the online play features. So this is how they do it. And most people are fine with it. Because it's super cheap!

@johnvboy That's what I mean... you wouldn't get a meal at McDonald's for £4.17 I just paid!

@chiefeagle02 Not today.

@FatWormBlowsASparky They are free, but presumably it checks your membership type to see if you're actually allowed to play them.

@johnvboy Not even for the price of a McDonalds meal out!

I'm so excited that eventually we'll get an update about nso where people stop whining about the price, or comparing it to completely different offerings from Microsoft and Sony. Let me say it for the 47th time. Make 7 friends and you only pay about £7/year (yes, that's less than Microsoft costs per month).

In my great generosity, I've even allowed my group members who don't see the value to avoid paying for the upgrade (this year... then they either shape up or get kicked...).

In the wise words of Dakota Fanning, 'Whiners are wieners'.

Hi all, go make 7 friends (It's a big internet). And then you pay about £7.50/year.

If, like most Switch owners you play ACNH, it's a decent deal.