@Beppeoioi
Seriously? if I were faced with the 3 consoles I would definitely buy a Wii U. Did you forget that Nintendo makes the best games out of the three? and most of the third party games on the other two consoles I will be able to play on my PC as usual... Nintendo is the real winner.
Its total idiots like this that make me glad EA isn't bringing their crap to the Wii U. EA has been going down for some time now, just give it a couple more years.
@LetsGoRetro I just don't think the problem is all about the games... there are some great Wii U games now that people are ignoring... and even when I mention Pikmin to people, most do not even know what that is. A brand new killer IP might help though...
Yet to bring out Mario? the Wii U had a new Mario game from the start and it didn't help.
Two screens on a console just wasn't a great idea, even Nintendo is struggling to find a good use for it. Tell me I can play my 3DS and DS games on it and I will like the idea much better.
I missed the old days when the game is all that mattered, no arguments over CPU speed, etc... this is ridicilous anymore... too many people that care about nothing but power, no matter how powerful the next xbox is, it will still pale in comparison to stuff out 10-15 years from now, so lets just worry about the games.
CPU and graphics do not make classic games! the game does! look at the NES, it has plenty of classic games and who gives a crap about how fast the CPU is!
Rockstar always has some excuse... now Nintendo has a powerful system it's going to be that the user base is too small... but I guarantee that they will jump on the Nextbox and next sony systems on day one. Lets just face it, they don't like Nintendo. Lego City is better anyway.
@Farmboy74
Yeah but out of the 280 games I own there are only 2 games that work with it (only 100 games out of hundreds of thousands supporting something isn't good support). There are tons of new games that would benefit with it but the developers usually just say "I'll think about it"....
@Farmboy74 No TV solution works well... airplay is just horrible for games, way too much lag. I do like the bluetooth controllers like the 8 Bitty (the NES like icade controller) but only a few games support it. Somehow adding 15 lines of code to your game to support it is too difficult for most developers.
I used to love EA but I really think it's time for them to go away... they have done nothing right lately (Sim City's DRM for example) and their future is scary...
Sony_70
If Microsoft were just a game/console company they would have been dead years ago. Sometimes I think they keep throwing money at their console business for just reputation alone, they want to be at the top regardless of the cost. Nintendo has to earn their success in the console world.
@aaronsullivan I've been reading Toucharcade for a couple of years. They do pick out some of the better games but for every good game there are about 100 bad games released that they don't bother with. People don't realize the huge amount of garbage released every day until you use appshopper or something that lists all the releases real time.
The few "quality" games release on Wednesday nights, most of those I don't even care for because I'm not into endless runners, etc... The rest of the week is mostly garbage that is made with game makers, etc...
Sure, IOS has a lot of good games, currently 1,181,386 apps total but with 99% of them being crap how many good ones will we really get? the major game publishers for ipad, EA, Rockstar, Gameloft, etc... are already able to make Nintendo games when they want to... so who exactly is Nintendo helping? hopefully some worthy companies. I also don't want all the fremium crap.
@Wiidsguy I disagree about "the more games the better". People complained about all the shovelware on the Wii, do you not realize that the IOS market is 99% shovelware? it could hurt the e-shop overall if we are flooded with crap. I have an ipad and there are definitely some good games but they are in the minority.
@snax007 I pointed out those games because they each have potentionally hundreds of hours worth of gameplay in them and they aren't ports to me. Just because a game is on another system doesn't make it any less of a game.
My point was that there is more than enough games to keep people busy on the Wii U, it's hard enough to find time to play the games I already have. The problem isn't with the Wii U library... it's with most of todays gamers... people see a review giving a game less than an 8 and write it off as garbage. I love Tank! Tank! Tank!
Unfortunately what attracts most people these days arent even the games themselves, it's "how good is Wii U Tvii?", I couldn't care less... or "can I play DVDs on the Wii U?" I say are you too cheap to buy a DVD player? or "what are the social features like"... umm, your cell phone, facetime, facebook, twitter, etc.. don't have you stuck up your friends butts enough already?
I'm beginning to think Nintendo will be the last true gaming company, I hope we never see the day where the next Mario game is an endless runner, or worse yet... released on a cell phone. Thats when I am finished with modern gaming and will just stick with Retro.
@ThomasBW84 I understand... I just have friends that whine about not having anything to play but I somehow cannot convice them that those really are good games they should give a chance.
I personally think they should have given us improved motion controls and not have done the whole two screen thing, it just makes things more confusing to casual gamers, my wife doesn't even want to touch the Wii U, heck, even my grandma bought the Wii.
There are lots of possible solutions... one example that would improve sales is if they need to announce that the Wii U can play DS and 3DS games. I don't know what they are waiting for, all the hardware is there. Just PLEASE give us a cartridge adapter and not expect us to repurchase the games.
I like the game though, the controls are just different... it adds to the challenge. If it controlled as well as Mario there would be zero challenge in the game.
@Nintendojuenger - Yes, I got it from Australia, only took 6 months to actually find someone in Australia that was willing to sell it to someone in the USA... had to pay someone like 4 times the price just to get it... just wait until those guys want some of our USA exclusives!
We have had some of the best games come out recently, Need for Speed, Monster Hunter and Lego City, no complaints here, I have more than enough to keep me busy. What important game are we missing at the moment? nothing I can think of...
Those games also wouldn't sell as well, just look at the lack of simulations on consoles... it's all about the money these days, no room for anything unique.
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Re: Talking Point: The Wii U's Next-Gen Challenge Starts to Take Shape
@Beppeoioi
Seriously? if I were faced with the 3 consoles I would definitely buy a Wii U. Did you forget that Nintendo makes the best games out of the three? and most of the third party games on the other two consoles I will be able to play on my PC as usual... Nintendo is the real winner.
Re: Shantae 3DS Virtual Console Release Date Creeps Ever Closer
Any chance for a Wii U release?
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Mixed Week With Wii U Third-Party Support
The best thing would be a price cut at this point, it helped to save the 3DS.
Re: Senior EA Employee Caught Out Criticising Wii U On Twitter
Focus on mobile? go ahead and release all your freemium crap there while real game companies like Nintendo are making the quality games.
They ruined Sim City, I bet part of them dropping support is that Nintendo won't support their DRM crap...
Re: Senior EA Employee Caught Out Criticising Wii U On Twitter
Its total idiots like this that make me glad EA isn't bringing their crap to the Wii U. EA has been going down for some time now, just give it a couple more years.
Re: Nintendo Confirms Smash Bros., 3D Mario and Mario Kart for E3 Nintendo Direct
Please be a BRAND NEW Mario! not Galaxy 3! those were great but do we really need more of the same? make it totally different!
Re: Nintendo Confirms Smash Bros., 3D Mario and Mario Kart for E3 Nintendo Direct
@Haxonberik
I kind of agree... it might be fun but to some if feels more like button mashing than strategy.
Re: Nintendo Confirms Smash Bros., 3D Mario and Mario Kart for E3 Nintendo Direct
That will be great if they come out this year... I'll believe it when I see it...
I planned on playing Pikmin and Wii Fit U long before now and that didn't happen...
Re: Peter Molyneux: If I were Nintendo, I'd Put Mario On The iPad
Sort of like saying... if I were Nintendo I'd make Mario controls suck?
Re: Industry Analyst: Nintendo Is "Positioned Perfectly" To Capitalise On Second-Screen Trend
@element187
It's easy... I (and a lot of other people) prefer the 2D ones...
Re: Industry Analyst: Nintendo Is "Positioned Perfectly" To Capitalise On Second-Screen Trend
@LetsGoRetro
I just don't think the problem is all about the games... there are some great Wii U games now that people are ignoring... and even when I mention Pikmin to people, most do not even know what that is. A brand new killer IP might help though...
Re: Industry Analyst: Nintendo Is "Positioned Perfectly" To Capitalise On Second-Screen Trend
@LetsGoRetro
Mario Paint is a great idea!!
Re: Industry Analyst: Nintendo Is "Positioned Perfectly" To Capitalise On Second-Screen Trend
Yet to bring out Mario? the Wii U had a new Mario game from the start and it didn't help.
Two screens on a console just wasn't a great idea, even Nintendo is struggling to find a good use for it. Tell me I can play my 3DS and DS games on it and I will like the idea much better.
Re: Insomniac Not Working On Wii U, Considers It More "Current Gen" Than "Next Gen"
I missed the old days when the game is all that mattered, no arguments over CPU speed, etc... this is ridicilous anymore... too many people that care about nothing but power, no matter how powerful the next xbox is, it will still pale in comparison to stuff out 10-15 years from now, so lets just worry about the games.
CPU and graphics do not make classic games! the game does! look at the NES, it has plenty of classic games and who gives a crap about how fast the CPU is!
Re: Insomniac Not Working On Wii U, Considers It More "Current Gen" Than "Next Gen"
Insomniac must be delusional from lack of sleep
Re: Rumour: The Recent Wii U System Update Has Boosted Clock Speeds
@hms
720 IS HD but there are also 3D 1080 games on the Wii U that run just fine, Skylanders Giants for example...
Re: SEGA Planning Seven Releases for Wii U in the Coming Year
@Pixelroy
YES!!! We better get Castle of Illusion!
Re: Rumour: Rockstar Won't Be Bringing WWE Or Grand Theft Auto To The Wii U
Rockstar always has some excuse... now Nintendo has a powerful system it's going to be that the user base is too small... but I guarantee that they will jump on the Nextbox and next sony systems on day one. Lets just face it, they don't like Nintendo. Lego City is better anyway.
Re: Activison Anticipating Rough End To 2013, Wii U Partly Responsible
@dizzy_boy
umm... Skylanders
Re: Delta Six Gun Controller Starts A Kickstarter Campaign
ummm... I'm already using the Activision Top Shot Elite rifle with Call of Duty on the Wii U, this isn't anything new...
Re: Feature: Ten Smartphone and Tablet Games We'd Like to See on Wii U
I found something even better a couple of weeks ago, I Dig It HD. One of the best ipad games I've played.
Also worth mentioning...
Across Age HD (like a SNES RPG), House of the Dead Overkill: The Lost Reels, Boulder Dash XL, Space Miner HD, Air Mail, Star Command
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Helping Developers to Convert Smartphone Games to Wii U
@Farmboy74
Yeah but out of the 280 games I own there are only 2 games that work with it (only 100 games out of hundreds of thousands supporting something isn't good support). There are tons of new games that would benefit with it but the developers usually just say "I'll think about it"....
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Helping Developers to Convert Smartphone Games to Wii U
@Farmboy74
No TV solution works well... airplay is just horrible for games, way too much lag. I do like the bluetooth controllers like the 8 Bitty (the NES like icade controller) but only a few games support it. Somehow adding 15 lines of code to your game to support it is too difficult for most developers.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Helping Developers to Convert Smartphone Games to Wii U
I used to love EA but I really think it's time for them to go away... they have done nothing right lately (Sim City's DRM for example) and their future is scary...
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Helping Developers to Convert Smartphone Games to Wii U
Sony_70
If Microsoft were just a game/console company they would have been dead years ago. Sometimes I think they keep throwing money at their console business for just reputation alone, they want to be at the top regardless of the cost. Nintendo has to earn their success in the console world.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Helping Developers to Convert Smartphone Games to Wii U
@aaronsullivan
I've been reading Toucharcade for a couple of years. They do pick out some of the better games but for every good game there are about 100 bad games released that they don't bother with. People don't realize the huge amount of garbage released every day until you use appshopper or something that lists all the releases real time.
The few "quality" games release on Wednesday nights, most of those I don't even care for because I'm not into endless runners, etc... The rest of the week is mostly garbage that is made with game makers, etc...
Sure, IOS has a lot of good games, currently 1,181,386 apps total but with 99% of them being crap how many good ones will we really get? the major game publishers for ipad, EA, Rockstar, Gameloft, etc... are already able to make Nintendo games when they want to... so who exactly is Nintendo helping? hopefully some worthy companies. I also don't want all the fremium crap.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Helping Developers to Convert Smartphone Games to Wii U
@Wiidsguy
I disagree about "the more games the better". People complained about all the shovelware on the Wii, do you not realize that the IOS market is 99% shovelware? it could hurt the e-shop overall if we are flooded with crap. I have an ipad and there are definitely some good games but they are in the minority.
Re: Super Retro Trio Plays SNES, Genesis, NES and GBA Games
No mention of save states... that's why I want the Retron 5.
Re: Talking Point: Lessons to be Learned, Again, From the Wii U Games Drought
@mch
I totally agree, that would have wrecked Lego City Undercover.
Re: Talking Point: Lessons to be Learned, Again, From the Wii U Games Drought
@snax007
I pointed out those games because they each have potentionally hundreds of hours worth of gameplay in them and they aren't ports to me. Just because a game is on another system doesn't make it any less of a game.
My point was that there is more than enough games to keep people busy on the Wii U, it's hard enough to find time to play the games I already have. The problem isn't with the Wii U library... it's with most of todays gamers... people see a review giving a game less than an 8 and write it off as garbage. I love Tank! Tank! Tank!
Unfortunately what attracts most people these days arent even the games themselves, it's "how good is Wii U Tvii?", I couldn't care less... or "can I play DVDs on the Wii U?" I say are you too cheap to buy a DVD player? or "what are the social features like"... umm, your cell phone, facetime, facebook, twitter, etc.. don't have you stuck up your friends butts enough already?
I'm beginning to think Nintendo will be the last true gaming company, I hope we never see the day where the next Mario game is an endless runner, or worse yet... released on a cell phone. Thats when I am finished with modern gaming and will just stick with Retro.
Re: Talking Point: Lessons to be Learned, Again, From the Wii U Games Drought
@ThomasBW84
I understand... I just have friends that whine about not having anything to play but I somehow cannot convice them that those really are good games they should give a chance.
I personally think they should have given us improved motion controls and not have done the whole two screen thing, it just makes things more confusing to casual gamers, my wife doesn't even want to touch the Wii U, heck, even my grandma bought the Wii.
There are lots of possible solutions... one example that would improve sales is if they need to announce that the Wii U can play DS and 3DS games. I don't know what they are waiting for, all the hardware is there. Just PLEASE give us a cartridge adapter and not expect us to repurchase the games.
Re: Talking Point: Lessons to be Learned, Again, From the Wii U Games Drought
The Drought has already ended. If you haven't bought Lego City, Monster Hunter or Need for Speed then do it, you couldn't ask for better games...
If you have them and beat them already then... umm... get a life?
Re: Smartphones And Tablets To Be "Primary Screen For Gamers" By 2017
It should read... Gaming will suck by 2017...
Re: Review: Ice Climber (Wii U eShop / NES)
I like the game though, the controls are just different... it adds to the challenge. If it controlled as well as Mario there would be zero challenge in the game.
Re: Super Mario Bros Crossover Hitting Version 3.0 This Year
I'd be more excited about this if we could play it on an actual console....
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Changing the Media Game at E3
@Burning_Spear Sony and Microsoft didn't skip E3 last year when they had no hardware announcements...
This would have been the perfect time for a huge announcement... something like "now the Wii U can play DS and 3DS games!"
It's a huge mistake to not do anything, it will only make people just write them off more than they already do...
Re: Hyperkin: Nintendo Hasn't Contacted Us About the RetroN 5
Save states for ANY game and HDMI output... it's MINE!!!
Re: Rumour: Take-Two To Reveal Next-Gen Versions of Grand Theft Auto V At Investor Call
it's overrated anyway... I hardly touched GTA IV.... Lego City Undercover is better
Re: Interview: Marc Franklin - Nintendo of America
wow, nice vague answers...
Re: First Impressions: Animal Crossing: New Leaf
Please get rid of the tube-like scrolling... I loved Animal Crossing on Gamecube but cannot stand how it's been ever since...
Re: Vote: Pick Your Favourite NES Games
you guys know that the voting isn't here right? you have to e-mail it...
Re: Vote: Pick Your Favourite NES Games
@Nintendojuenger - Yes, I got it from Australia, only took 6 months to actually find someone in Australia that was willing to sell it to someone in the USA... had to pay someone like 4 times the price just to get it... just wait until those guys want some of our USA exclusives!
Re: Vote: Pick Your Favourite NES Games
Why only licensed games? some of my favorites are not licensed, Micro Machines, Fantastic Adventures of Dizzy, Crystal Mines, etc...
Re: Pachter: Price Cut Unlikely To Help Wii U Without Software Support
We have had some of the best games come out recently, Need for Speed, Monster Hunter and Lego City, no complaints here, I have more than enough to keep me busy. What important game are we missing at the moment? nothing I can think of...
Re: Details and Figurines Continue to Evolve for Pokémon Rumble U
Skylanders is a great game, I would be quickly be bored with this game, it's not worth buying toys for.
Re: Review: NAM-1975 (Wii Virtual Console / Neo Geo)
After watching some videos, it honestly does not look that good to me... maybe a 4 out of 10...
Re: Hardware Review: 3DS Circle Pad Pro XL
How are you supposed to use the right control and fire buttons at the same time?
Re: Talking Point: Warren Spector Asks, Where Are Gaming's Grown-Ups?
@GreenDream - wow, I didn't realize any of that, I just remember killing things...
Re: Talking Point: Warren Spector Asks, Where Are Gaming's Grown-Ups?
Those games also wouldn't sell as well, just look at the lack of simulations on consoles... it's all about the money these days, no room for anything unique.
Re: Talking Point: Warren Spector Asks, Where Are Gaming's Grown-Ups?
It sound to me like he just wants to make a very boring game.