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@BlueOcean It's expensive, that's true. But it's a good controller, and I believe it's fairly sturdy, so I shouldn't need to buy a new one any-time soon. And why wouldn't one buy a pro-controller as a traditional gamer? That thing is the reason I've enjoyed many of my games.

@BlueOcean Hold the phone, limits as a handheld? Like what? It's currently the best handheld out there if we're going by that! If anything, it's limits as home-console, are because it can function as a handheld as well (limited power due to space, cartridges instead of CD because that's what will fit, etc)

It's been fairly good so far, but a ton of ports and few new games outside of Nintendo's own and Rabbids, plus a distinct lack of online co-op games.

I currently own a measly 6 games, that being MK8D/Zelda/Mario + Rabbids/Fate/Extella and Disgaea 5 (Which I find myself unable to properly finish) with Xenoverse 2 and One Piece being added this month. I'm also having trouble feeling much if any excitement for Xenoblade or Odyssey.

I use my Switch as home-console, only take it out of it's dock to check how it's doing and clean the dust off of it. Very rarely do I use the Joy-Con controller setup, since there's a great pro-controller hooked up for that.

@BlueOcean Let's hope the tide turns then, since I'd love to have a very successful Switch.

@BlueOcean Then why are they suddenly pulling a test upon test 180? I'd say Ubisoft/Bandai/SE etc do a better job of it, at least right now for sure.

It's as if Wii-U transformed into a club, and beat Capcom's executive senseless for 2 months straight. At that point, Nintendo was associated with pain for him

@BlueOcean Have you tried the pro-controller? Does the job just fine, and I've literally used the Joy-Cons in case thingy for about 5 minutes or so. So all my Switch time was with my pro, and that thing is just great

I'm still iffy on that story, but I'll give it a fair shake.

@rjejr " it will be used as a home console by me." Give me an E-high five for that one!

Fact is, it's getting more games then most other Nintendo consoles so far, and it still is an impressive piece of kit, even if it's weaker, it's not HORRIBLY weaker. Wii-U didn't get a 3D Dragonball fighter, and yet XV2 is about to release soon. At the end of the day, what matters is the games. You can have the best, strongest console in existence that can have you teleported to the moon while capable of performing like nothing else, without games, it's just a fancy machine.

@BlueOcean They had better make a good one from the ground-up for Switch, but it wouldn't surprise me if they end up doing nothing at all, since we are still talking Capcom, and they're as random as firing a bazooka blindfolded while sitting on a gigantic beyblade. Time will tell what they do, but I'll NEVER give them my faith again after E3.

@JaxonH To that, I must pop in and say "But nothing beats playing a game with a good pro-controller, for me at least "

I get you, and I did enjoy some motion-controls, but I'm an old fart, and thus I like my traditional controllers. Give me a pro over any Joy-Con or what-have-you any day of any week, but the key word for me is: Options. Let people choose the way they play, home-console or handheld, motion-control or traditional.

@rjejr You're not making this easy on me, but at the end of the day, it matters how one uses their Switch, not what it is. If Nintendo does end up going full handheld, I'll see by then what my judgement is.

@BlueOcean Aye, I'm aware and there are rumours of a ground-up Switch MH coming, but those are just that: Rumours, far from a certainty. I don't think XX will make it over, honestly, due to it's status as a expansion of a port, a quick and dirty one to tide over Japan, and it probably being next to irrelevant by the time it would release.

However, Capcom cannot afford to ignore the Switch with MH if it becomes big enough. Even the Wii-U got an MH game, and that's a failure. Capcom WILL bring something good, if they want their sales.

@rjejr I get what you're saying, and I was very negative about the Switch as a whole, firmly in the "It's a handheld, and they've caught me with false-advertising" camp, but I have to make a concession, and get somewhere at some point right? Fact remains that it can't be called a Switch, if it cannot Switch from handheld to TV MODE via dock. No dock, no Switch.

Graphics don't matter the world to me, and so I'll contribute my little bit to seeing the Switch receive good third-party support, and great Nintendo games, so it can be a great gaming console in it's own right, and not be second fiddle to the "big" boys.

@JaxonH That's not exactly all of it. I heard Nintendo has done a ton for Capcom in the MH space, help build the base here and all that, do the advertising yada-yada. The fact remains, Jaxon, that people like YOU, who love or can only play their game portably, are being left in the dust here.

@BlueOcean I mean the West not having any MH to even look forward to. An announcement, that's ALL people want! Who cares that it comes a while down the road? Just a guarantee would be nice! But no, can't have ANYTHING divert from their beloved World, to the point where they let Sony advertise World just before XX drops so as to cut even more off from it.

I have a fairly good PC, I'm sure I can run World, but I can't stomach the people that get left in the dust like this. That's not how you build and maintain a fan-base.

@BlueOcean That's all good and well, but to just ditch the base you've built in the West, isn't going to make them say "thanks, we'll buy your next game!" (or at least, it damn well shouldn't.)

Not sure what I should say about the 2nd bit. I'm sure there are plenty of people that are annoyed at having to buy Nintendo's machines for their games, and in my case portability just doesn't do anything extra. I sit at home most of the time, with jack sht to do, so my TV gets maximum use and I've no need for portability.

But I've accepted the Switch for what it is, and embraced that the name is false without the dock. It may not be part of the machine that truly can be considered "The Switch" but without it, the entire message, the name, and half of the power behind it is meaningless.

@JaxonH Heh, I'm much the same way, but I WILL boycott if I see something that really gets my angry juices flowing (Microtransactions in Middle-Earth: Shadow of War).

If you don't put your foot down sometimes, they'll keep driving over it and it won't hurt any less

@JaxonH Get sincerely angry with Capcom for being such lunkheads where Switch is concerned! Sharpen those pitchforks damnit! But on a more serious note, there isn't anything one can do with such a fickle company. I've already girded my loins to be playing MH on PC from now on.

@HAL9000 Scuse me brother, but there's another thing here. If you want Nintendo IP, you don't have a choice and must buy whatever hardware it's on. Get me all of my loved Nintendo IP on PS4, and I'll go out and get one.

@JaxonH Imagine yourself sitting at home for a couple of years with no reason to play anything handheld (Aka nowhere to go where you'd really want to use the Switch that way, or maybe I just use my 3DS instead and don't want to risk my home-console).

Also weren't you going to buy Monster Hunter World? There's no portable mode for you there!

@rjejr Personally, I've concluded that my Switch is a home-console, for without it's dock, it is no Switch. A home-console that has handheld purposes for other people, so that they can join me in their way to play online. If anything, at least the online will be vibrant, because people can participate however they wish.

@JaxonH "Tv only" Don't be hatin on TV mode! My Switch serves well as a home-console machine!

@Ralizah I'd settle for that, but the Switch has absolute crap internal storage, and I want to keep my stuff physical for as long as humanely possible. Next we know, we'll have 5 external drives lying around to keep all the games on, that's ridiculous!

@electrolite77 Hm, but I've got a feeling that the Switch is attracting a different crowd beyond those who have that "Nintendo machine = Nintendo games" mentality is what I've been seeing. Personally I've got only 2 Nintendo games and 3 third-party (Yes rabbids, you have Mario, but you're still Ubisoft's brain-child.) and 3 third-party, and I'm hoping there's enough people who care to buy what they like of third-party to change things around. And, perhaps it wasn't just Nintendo who were shook-awake with Wii-U, but the people who usually buy Nintendo's stuff as well.

The 3DS is hard to say, it's still here, and will continue to be here for at least a while. Nintendo will be 80% Switch 20% 3DS is my guess, but there's just too many 3DS people to drop just like that. It'll take a steady build-down over-time.

Can't exactly do more than one's own contribution, now can we?

@electrolite77 I'm sadly aware that those days are gone, but Nintendo needs third-parties, they can't keep banking off their own IP, that's just not possible. It'd last them for a couple of years, sure, but it'll become Wii-U again otherwise, and I'm sure Nintendo has had more than enough of that.

I've had major issues with the Switch at first, and how many people perceive it as handheld, the sacrifices it made to what one expects of a home-console, and how the machine itself is, technically, a handheld. I'm still not 100% onboard with this being the home-console success to the Wii-U's failure, but I've no choice if I want Nintendo IP, so might as well go with it. That, and the entire name of Switch has no meaning without a dock, so I'll confide some paltry faith in that.

As for third-party games being sold, what's your take on all this "water-testing" then? A ton of people are annoyed by it, and rightfully so, but what is one to do? Suck it up and buy whatever game to "hope" for more support? Or just ignore it and keep demanding W game over X that is being offered? (Xenoverse 2 and FighterZ) I honestly don't know anymore. I've supported third-party whenever I could and their games enthralled me, and I'll continue doing so to hopefully make a tiny, bit of difference.

@electrolite77 Oh I'm well aware, and I'd like to see it avoided, but, whenever I take a read around the internet, for every bit of enthusiasm I see, I'm also reminded of the fact that Nintendo is missing out on so much, and in some of these cases, it seems a lost cause to expect anything else. If a successful test, is met with just more tests, then how can one ever please a third-party? Is the Switch doomed to become a Nintendo machine yet again? Is Rabbids a one-off? It seems that way. I'd just like to know where I can have some faith in, but all I get is that I was right to drop any and all faith I had, when Capcom showed off World, and denied XX's localization.

@electrolite77 Actually, let me ask you something. Do you own a 3DS? And if so, did you buy it because of the 3D/DS feature, or because you've had no choice to play some of those games? I'm firmly in the 2nd camp with all of Nintendo's machines. The Switch doesn't offer me this spectacular feature of portability, because I couldn't care less. It'd actually benefit me if Sony were to beat Nintendo out of the competition, and get them to make games for PS instead.

A dockless Switch... not like the current Switch has much home-console to it...

@electrolite77 "That's what I mean. They're not great at selling home Consoles but their handheld sales are consistently very good. 3DS approaching 70 million sales in the current market is remarkable." Welp, guess I should start accounting for a dockless Switch in the future.

@electrolite77 There's another spanner to throw into these works, that being PS VR. They're really going in hard on that, and a weaker hybrid won't be able to offer good VR is my guess, so they'll probably continue along their lines all things considered.

You're safe for now, Nintendo, better work hard to maintain it.

@electrolite77 So you're kinda like me then? Buy Nintendo's hardware, because you've no choice when it comes to wanting their games?

At any rate, we'll see what Sony does, but it'd get Nintendo to scramble and get something done real quick, though arguably there's nothing they can do against something like that, save for exit stage right. Maybe Sony will get their wish of a monopoly in the Games Industry.

@iamthesunset Dunno about that one. I honestly can't see the hype to be frank.

@electrolite77 And in the face of a Sony hybrid, with unanimous support due to their deals and such, will see Nintendo's Switch sales dwindle severely if not completely. Zelda has been used to start Switch off with, Mario Odyssey will soon follow, along with Pokemon and FE. They're firing all their bullets hoping this succeeds, but their IP is finite. They'll lose to Sony with all their third-party backing, no question about it.

@electrolite77 Well, let's hope that Sony doesn't do a hybrid then, because that would crush the Switch and drive Nintendo out of the business is my guess. What could they possibly leverage against a stronger, far better supported hybrid?

@-Green- If Sony does decide to contest the Switch with their deals, and a much stronger hybrid, then I'd share a bleak outlook with you. As for support and games, I can only say hardly on support. Switch is getting water-tested all around, and even if the sales are good, it just gets more testing instead of solid support. The only ones to pledge that are NIS/NISA.

Games, eh, It's hard for me to see that. I've got a grand total of 5 games, where I see some people with 10-20+, and I can imagine a lot of those being Indies (nothing wrong with those, but their scope is limited)

@-Green- How come you've got a bad feeling then?

@electrolite77 And yet Nintendo has finite IP at the end of the day, and they're not all for everyone, let alone fatigue of overuse being a thing. They need the thirds to lend a hand soon, or they'll start dropping the quality of their games due to having to crank them out to sustain the Switch.

Rabbids is a great start, but that's all it is: A start. More is needed if the Switch is to remain relevant, and that cannot wait for long. It's getting quite a few games, but a lot of those are A. old ports and B. indies. Not to say they're bad, but their appeal is very limited.

@electrolite77 (puts on Devil's Advocate hat) Because the Switch may be attractive enough to be people's only console for once, instead of playing second fiddle to PS4/Xbox One. It has always miffed me greatly that Nintendo allows themselves to be shoved to the back-seat and remain there, if you catch my drift.

@electrolite77 I've yet to find proper replacements for Nintendo's IP, so I guess I'm stuck to their hardware for now.

@BraveFencerZan Can't have a release everywhere though, gotta think of poor ol' World and the wind in it's sails. It's honestly pathetic that Capcom is afraid XX would do anything more then a slight scratch on the surface of World. An expansion of a 3DS port, or a whole new next-gen game...

@Si2k78 We'd need to fill their carecup with more money than Sony is dropping in their face first.

@retro_player_22 Might as well write them off entirely then, since they seem hell-bent on not giving a F about the Switch.

@readyletsgo I'm guessing it's because Derpcom's sales estimates were too high for what is effectively a niche game. Horror is usually hit or miss with people.

@electrolite77 Oh, yes possibly. But aside from Odyssey, and maybe FIFA for the interested, I don't see much that really gets people moving. Xenoblade is still very much niche.

@electrolite77 You mean that many copies sold for Odyssey? Seems like a tall-order to me...

@electrolite77 Let me guess, Mario Odyssey? Damn man, if I'm to believe all these people that are jumping out of their roof for this game, it's set to be the best game ever or something. I don't see what all the hype is for....

@electrolite77 But then why put it so cryptically, and not just allude to those games instead? I'd have understood that!

@electrolite77 "Currently, it’s popular among the early adopters, but there needs to be one more step to attract a wider audience. I see more potential in Switch, but one shouldn’t overestimate its potential." What wider audience? It has games for a ton of people already, and has access to both handheld and home-console market.

What this man needs, is retirement.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE He should've thought this through more carefully. Those words, from one in his position, weigh heavily and they're far from enthusiastic and positive, with the whole "Overestimate potential" thing. I know this message has severely dampened my excitement for Pokemon Switch, because I know this... suit, is involved in the creative process.

"I told Nintendo that Switch wouldn’t be a success before it went on sale because I thought that in the age of the smartphone, no one would carry out a game console." Are these the words of a man, who is the CEO of a such a big company and seriously good selling series across the world? Those are the words of someone who is ready to ditch traditional gaming for a phone in the blink of an eye. I can't stomach someone like that being in the position of CEO.

@electrolite77 On a more positive tone, I look forward to seeing what devs can do with the hardware, and arguably the access to Nintendo's IP. Rabbids was a very pleasant surprise.

"There does still seem to be a shortage of Christmas launches"

I'm sure a good direct can rectify that, pokes Nintendo