A few months ago we did 'The Switch Report' for the system's first three months on the market, in which we went through aspects of the console's first quarter and looked at positives and negatives. Well, time has flown, and it's now over six months old and well settled into millions of homes, with plenty of gamers still eager to pick one up.
So, once again, let's have a look at the good, the bad and the potential improvements after six months of the Nintendo Switch.
Demand is High, and the Switch Keeps Bringing Great Games
The most important metrics for any gaming system, above all else, are having quality games to entertain owners and to also drive demand for the hardware. On both fronts it can be argued that Nintendo has continued its strong form, even if the retail scene has been more about quality rather than quantity to date.
The Summer months are typically relatively quiet in the retail scene, but Nintendo's strategy of a major release in each month has helped tide it over ahead of what will be a busy Autumn / Fall period. First up was ARMS, the colourful new IP that aims to do something different with the fighting genre, and a bit of a blast from the Wii past in terms of its focus on motion controls (though they're optional). Ultimately, our sense is that ARMS hasn't taken off in the same manner as the original Splatoon on Wii U - another bright new IP that tackled a popular genre in a very 'Nintendo' way - but it's not been a flop either. Sales seem to have been decent for the Switch fighter, and the company continues to support it with content and balancing updates. Only Nintendo knows whether it's met expectations in terms of sales and online playing numbers, but popular showings at the likes of E3 have at least got it on the map.
The other two major retail releases were Splatoon 2 and Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle. The former seems to have picked up pretty much where the original left off, and drove big demand for the hardware in Japan that was seemingly only partly met. The IP is hot business in Nintendo's homeland, but it appears to have continued its positive run in the West as well; the fact it's a fantastic sequel has helped secure the brand's status as a key part of the Nintendo picture. Ubisoft's Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle is a more recent arrival, so its success or otherwise is tough to judge; nevertheless it's been receiving plenty of praise and seems to have been picked up by a solid number of Switch owners (though more data is needed on that). Both games, we think it's fair to say, have enhanced and added variety and quality to the Switch library.
Outside of the retail scene, which also had a handful of smaller releases over the last few months, we've seen the eShop pick up steam. Not too long ago we shared an opinion that the Switch eShop is looking like the real deal, and that view has only been enhanced in recent times. The last few months have brought a number of excellent download games, making it harder to pin down our 'eShop Selects' awards, and the recent Nindie Showcase only highlighted how rapidly the store's library is set to improve. The Switch eShop is gradually receiving more varied games to suit all tastes through a mix of multi-platform ports, enhanced editions and the occasional exclusive.
All of this, importantly, looks to be achieving two things - demand for the console remains high, with stock still selling out quickly in territories like Japan and the US. In addition more developers and publishers, of various sizes, are eager to jump on board. We've seen a rapid acceleration in the past couple of months of Indie companies confirming games, with almost daily news on that front. Ubisoft also announced a couple more games during E3, while the likes of Bethesda and EA still have titles on the way. Unlike an equivalent period in the Wii U's history, when previously confirmed titles from big players sunk out of the limelight, there's the sense that - at the very least - there's growing intrigue around titles like FIFA 18 and The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim being around the corner on Switch.
Basically, the Switch is still doing rather well in its core goal of delivering varied, quality games, and that's only going to ramp up through the rest of 2017.
Mis-steps, Supply and Surprise Storage Demands
While our three month report naturally covered off launch issues, some that were notable and others overblown online, the past three months have been arguably much smoother. Nintendo's made occasional updates to the system and even introduced the early hints at 'SpotPass' of sorts for The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, and the system has essentially ticked along.
One release over the past months that drew some criticism and mockery, though, was the Nintendo Switch Online app. SplatNet 2.0, to be fair, is rather good - it allows you to buy gear online, track your stats, check upcoming stage rotations and more. While that's rather cool, the app's voice chat solution is not; in fact this writer thinks it's rubbish. It's functional, just about, but falls short in various ways as it's hard to actually communicate with friends and figure out if they're open to a voice chat invite. It's lacking fundamental, must-have features at present, and as a result has played into the not-always-fair accusation that Nintendo's "can't do online". Hopefully it will be improved in the next few months.
An ongoing sticking point is hardware availability in stores; while plenty of countries in Europe - for example - now have frequent restocks and availability, units can still be quite tough to find in the likes of the US and Japan. In Japan hundreds still queue at stores to enter ballots for the chance to buy one, and the story in North America varies from pictures of multiple units nestling behind counters to the system being particularly hard to acquire. While it's not been ideal, it's also fair to say that there have been visible efforts to improve supply. Officially Nintendo is still aiming to ship ten million units up to the end of March 2018, but a number of reports suggest the real number could eventually be higher as Nintendo aims to meet demand.
Arguably the biggest slip-up of the last three months came recently, with the somewhat baffling news that some boxed retail games will require downloads and a microSD card to access the full game. Switch is the only system that'll make expanded memory compulsory for some retail games, with NBA 2K18 being the first to fall into the category. For many reading these pages that bought a microSD long ago it won't likely be much of an issue, but it's an odd scenario that a cartridge game will require a download and extra storage just to access all the content. It's perhaps similar to how systems like PS4 and Xbox One operate as they dump disc content to install, or the way in which they let you play a small part of a download retail game while the rest installs. The difference with Switch, however, is that the system's on-board storage doesn't cover that requirement, potentially pushing some into buying a microSD card just to play a retail game.
It's an oddity, and hopefully it'll only affect a very small number of retail games in the years to come.
There's Still a Lot That Can Improve With the Switch
Perhaps this counts as something for the mis-steps category, or arguably patience is the key, but most of our thoughts from the 'room for expansion and improvement' section in the three month report are still the same. One response is to complain and question what Nintendo is doing with its time, but it's also fair to say that a little patience may bring the increased functions and personality we desire in the hardware.
So, to keep things succinct, below are bullet-point reminders from our last 'Switch report' on improvements that could boost the system in the near-to-mid term.
- HOME Themes and optional User Interface adjustments, such as music, alternate sounds etc. For those that love the clean look that's fine, but the ability to add more personality like we saw on the 3DS would be welcome.
- Improvements to the eShop layout. At the moment there are no clear sections for demos or discounts, and it lacks the useful 'categories' and similar areas that showcase older content on the Wii U and 3DS eShop. Product visibility, in other words, is pretty disappointing unless a game is either relatively new or in the charts.
- Streaming apps. We're yet to see Amazon Prime, Netflix, YouTube or any of the big hitters; so far we've just had niconico in Japan. More streaming apps are surely on the way, the question is when.
- Cloud saves. Because it's 2017.
Something we'd also like to see is new Joy-Con options to put the modular design to work; yes, we mean a left Joy-Con with a proper D-Pad.
Beyond those points, improvements can be made on the mis-steps. Data Management on the system could be far better, and the Nintendo Switch Online app's voice chat functionality needs to be greatly improved. The way it's going, we may also need to wait until 2018 and the proper launch of the Nintendo Online Service before we find out what sort of Virtual Console the Switch will have. Yep, the Virtual Console remains pretty high on the system's to-do list.
Overall, We Have Some Great Games to Play, With More On the Way
We'd suggest that, above all of that, the Switch is still in a rather good spot after six months. It seems to be in demand and it garners plenty of positive press and word of mouth, while there are varied games of all sizes and prices that are intriguing and worth a go. The next few months will be exciting, too, with the likes of Super Mario Odyssey, Xenoblade Chronicles 2, Fire Emblem Warriors, Breath of the Wild story DLC (assuming it's not delayed) and much more being joined by an ever-expanded eShop library.
Basically, the rest of this year should bring some awesome gaming on the Switch.
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Six months in and Nintendo is still doomed!
Still whining about a "proper" D-pad... Get over it. LOL
41 games on my console and counting! Keep bringing on the good stuff, developers!
And Nintrendo ffs bring Virtual Console.
Fair points all round. After 6 months I think the Switch is looking rather healthy with stock issues being the biggest gripe.
Even though I don't do online multiplayer, voice chat does need a complete do-over as well as sprucing up the eShop with genres and such; although I say keep it minimalist. Its fast, its clean and does what a shop is meant to do; show you the goods and allow you to buy them quickly.
The past 'free' months???
I own literally every single retail game available in North America for the switch save for Just Dance 2017. with only a few digital games to boot, I can say that this has been so far the best console release I've experienced in my 32 years of life. The wii may have had high demand like this, but I can recall only owning about five games by its first fiscal year.
Praying for the VC on Switch eShop. I'm really missing it. Yes, I could boot up the old Wii U, but it would be nice to play them on the nice shiny new system. I'd also like to be able to 'upgrade' them from Wii U to Switch for like a buck as with Wii to Wii U upgrade fees.
Not a lot coming for the rest of the year that interests me other than Rayman, Mario, and a few eShop games, which is fine as I've been neglecting responsibilities since getting Splatoon 2. Hoping Smash 4 Deluxe (with at least Inkling characters) is announced for Spring or Summer '18. Metroid 4 and Pokémon are also of high interest.
I think the future is healthy and I love my Switch though I haven't dabbled in as many titles as I would have liked due to time and money.
My only complaint (as the article highlights) really is the lack of visibility of where the console is going, particularly with updates like cloud save and more importantly the Virtual Console. I kinda feel that the SNES mini is actually a way to drum up interest for a 2018 VC release.
Other than that, I hope that Mario + Rabbids and other third party titles like Fifa do well as Third Party support is my only other concern.
The console is genuinely a great piece of kit, I think now it is just down to supply and software whether it becomes as big a hit as it deserves to be.
All the early concerns have gone unfixed.
- Memory limitations are still causing problems.
- Build quality stories have quieted, but weren't really addressed.
- and we're still in the same old "scaled back or skipped" for third party
- no one wants or needs HD rumble. coulda put that money into GB storage or processing or .....
that said, Nintendo always has the positives of
- 1st party
- SNES mini... er.. .well sorta
and... hm...
Absolutely concur with a better, more 'Nintendo' interface and home screen. Want that Nintendo soothing music! And of course we need Netflix, Amazon etc. I still use my Wii for Netflix FFS (I skipped the Wii U, the first time I've ever missed a Nintendo system in my life though, don't judge lol). And VC of course, the opportunity to tap into the craziness surrounding the NES and SNES Minis and drive people into the Switch's 'ARMS' is enormous!
"free months" - clearly written in Essex!
It's not year one we should worry about. It's what Nintendo has to offer throughout 2018 other than the known Kirby, Yoshi and Fire Emblem games that will keep the sales high that's of concern.
@FragRed Don't be silly. 2018 isn't concerning. It's exciting coz they haven't revealed their games yet.
@FragRed - This is standard Nintendo marketing though. We rarely have much knowledge into the next year till the late quarterly Nintendo Direct. Which, obviously, is coming soonish.
But I am certain we can also add Mario & Sonic Olympics 2018 for the beginning of that year as well. Oddly enough that series sells well.
For the jokes that were made about how the best feature of Switch is that it can be played on the toilet, I find that I actually am playing it there the majority of the time. I can't remember the last time I played it docked for a long period.
If I had to grade it...
C+
Edit: Actually, I've been thinking. Perhaps a C- would be fairer - what with the dock scratching screens, joy con de-syncing and horror that is SFII Ultra 'issues'.
Still, I've always bought Nintendo and will continue to do just so long as it's 1st party software remains as strong as always.
I've had my switch for a little over a month the now, and I'm massively enjoying it. Best Nintendo system I've ever owned.
NINTENDO SWITCH released in downtime season, March... I wonder what the upcoming Holiday season will bring? What will people get on Xmas morning?
@Exy Maybe it was something you ate?
I'll be along just as soon as NOA announces a Switch with a Metroid Prime theme.
The Switch proved console gaming could still be relevant in 2017. That's definitely worthy of attention.
D-
My only real complaint is the lack of a virtual console. When I first got my Switch I was hoping I'd get to play Super Mario sunshine which would have filled the void until Mario Oddesy came out but I guess we're almost there now anyway
I can understand why people would want streaming apps but it's honestly not something I would use do doesn't bother me in the slightest. I'd possibly use a YouTube app but my phone is never more than a metre away and that has a perfectly good YouTube app and a Web browser
@speedracer216
I have to respectfully disagree on most of your points.
Memory problems? I bought a 64 Gig SD card for less than $30 - how is that a problem?
Build quality not addressed? Like the joy-con problem that was identified, and repaired for free within a week or two of discovering the problem? Almost anything else is anecdotal. A few Switches with problems out of Millions sold is to be expected.
HD Rumble? Nobody cares? It is one of the greatest features on the console! Try turning it off after using it - I bet you would miss it right away.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE To no ones surprise....
I'll get one eventually. The more time passes the less I want one tbh.
@Indielink I could have given it an F but that wouldn't have been fair.
Love the Switch, but I've played most of my games to death. Each campaign of Shovel Knight 3 times, LoZ BoTW 5 times, all parts in mario kart 8 excluding gold, played through hardest difficulty of Fast RMX, played through I am Setsuna, played through Metal Slug a dozen times, Splatoon 2 once, Aerofighters 2 twice with every plane, and hardest difficulty every fighter on Ultra Street Fighter II playing through once a day every day almost, all characters Mighty Gunvolt Burst, halfway through Shantae, Puyo Puyo Tetris a few dozen times, played through Sonic Mania, tried every demo available....waiting on Mario Odyssey, Kirby 2018, anything like Harvest Moon, Starlink, and definitely that Virtual Console.
I'm glad everyone with a Switch that is also enjoying it, is well, enjoying it.
But man... for me, the Switch and where Nintendo has gone over the last few generations is just sad. For the first time in my life, I do not own Nintendo's latest offering. I have for the first time in my life dabbled into non-Nintendo territory and found a nice home with an Xbox 1. It's basically everything I loved about old Nintendo minus the 3 or 4 must have Nintendo first party titles a year. That plus my New 2DS is suiting me just fine.
Agree with most of that, especially what needs to improve. I'm surprised that Media apps and cloud saves are absent, that the Data Management is still so primitive and there's no D-pad joycon option (though that's probably pretty low priority). I'm not particularly fussed about Online multiplayer but it's a poor offering considering they plan to charge. I'm holding off on the storage issue until we see the full picture and how many times this issue will occur.
Overall though it's a roaring success. Superb hardware, tons of great games and the flexibility that I originally marked down as a gimmick has proved hugely valuable, fitting perfectly into my lifestyle. In fact with a newborn in the house to help entertain our 3-year-old, I can only see Switch dominating what gaming time I have more and more.
The Switch has a decent amount of great games so far, but I'm in no rush to grab one just yet. I still own a Wii U, so the ports of Wii U games aren't going to encourage me to get a Switch. Most of the brand new Switch games like 1-2 Switch and ARMS don't particularly appeal to me either.
I imagine that I'll want a Switch eventually, but for now I'll wait until it has more games that really excite me.
@speedracer216
Memory limitations are still causing problems
Never caused problems for me, because it's not limited, thanks to games not mandating installs and SD expansion up to 2TB (in theory, 40gb in reality). Maybe one or two people have to cough up $10 to double their storage... that doesn't seem like something to be labeled "still causing problems". It would be a problem if they capped expandable storage at 32gb and charged $100 for it. That's what I consider causing problems.
Build quality stories have quieted, but weren't really addressed
Actually it was addressed. Joycon issue was resolved at the manufacturer, and the rest seemed to be outliers like any other system. There's the dock issue, which I haven't had problems with but I'll concede the fact it's unwise to go without a screen protector
and we're still in the same old "scaled back or skipped" for third party
And will continue to be. Nintendo made a hybrid console, not a power console clone. It has and always will play second fiddle with regard to 3rd party games (even if it wasn't a hybrid, it'd be the same story)
no one wants or needs HD rumble. coulda put that money into GB storage or processing
??? I love HD rumble. It's amazing. And alot of people here have said the same. So speak for yourself.
If you're gonna criticize Switch, at least use legit complaints like lack of cloud storage, data management, apps, and the worthless voice chat app.
Personally, I don't have a good feeling about the Switch. I imagine in the future it'll still be a constant debate between people over whether it's an economic failure.
At the moment though, the Switch is very much still a Nintendo console.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Not gonna lie, I expected that from you. Although, it probably has some fair logic behind it.
After six month I still enjoy my Nintendo switch but still I play with my 3DS ... ofc my ps4 pro gets all the love lol 💙 ... one question ! I take care of my consoles but the quality of the Nintendo switch is cheap ? Because i had to replace my left joycon since it keep slip down all the time ! And the new joy con I bought all the buttons are damaged some how not sure how and why !
I still don't get full wifi single even he router is next to me and it works fine for all my other devices
@JaxonH
I admit my play-time with Switch is limited. I still buy games for SNES more than anything. I think that's what I'm still looking for in a console and the world is passing me by.
SNES has no rumble, no internet, no apps, no voice-chat, no DLC, no VR, etc. etc. etc......... but it got every killer game.
I feel like Switch's library at this point is Zelda, ports, spinoffs, and indys. Not that those aren't great and I'm PUMPED that there are so many available... but it will ride or die based on Mario, Metroid, etc.
Still hard for me to accept that Nintendo can't be my "only" system anymore.
Best first party machine so far.
Zelda. Splatoon 2. Arms. Mk8 deluxe
Well, I love my switch. It needs apps, VC, and more games, but it has been the system I have been playing for the past 6 months. I am putting it away until I get the games I want. (JRPG)That being said, 3Ds is going to be killing it this month with Monster Hunter Story, the Metroid remake, an old-school Pokemon.I haven't played in years. Of course, I'm getting Mario Odyssey, but I want my Elder Scroll and Xenoblade. 2 now. I will most likely pick up Battle Chasers and Rime respectively.
I have no memory issues with the Switch because I was smart enough to buy one from the get go. (duh) I want more from Nintendo and I know how they operate so I'm not shocked or mad or even concerned. I know we will get updates, apps and VCs will get here eventually. This happened with the WII and Wii U. It is a great console and I love it.
I haven't owned a Switch yet but now I have 6 Switch games. Still waiting for December 2017 to buy Switch machine according to my plan.
I have a couple of Switch games (collector's editions) but no Switch yet. Despite how much I like the look of a lot of the games (Mario Odyssey, Mario+Rabbids) I just cannot justify the cost of the Switch, which for me would be at least £350 (Switch + Pro Controller), but likely more as I'd need to also get a D-pad centric pad (e.g. from 8bitdo), an SD Card, screen protector, case and another dock. It's just not worth that kind of money, as to me it's old tech. I don't care if it's "the most powerful handheld in the world", or smug sounding people retort with "good luck playing a PS4/XB1/PC on a train" (answer, I don't buy consoles to play on trains). For me it's a home console first, and it plays Wii U/PS3/XB360 games. So it's not worth the entry fee of £350+. I really hope Nintendo can bring the cost of it down in the near future, so I can get one. Otherwise my 2 Switch games will have been purchased for the sole reason of collecting.
All valid points about what the system is lacking (except for the joycon D-pad, which I think works pretty much perfectly). Still, I'm extremely happy with the things Nintendo did get right. The Switch is such a convenient machine that my PS4 and 3DS have been all but collecting dust. In fact, I think I use my Wii U more than those two combined, thanks to that system's excellent streaming app accessibility.
It's obviously very early in the console's life cycle, but it may just end up surpassing the SNES as my favorite of all time. I was optimistic with the concept before launch, now I'm completely ecstatic about it.
@JaxonH "And will continue to be. Nintendo made a hybrid console, not a power console clone. It has and always will play second fiddle with regard to 3rd party games (even if it wasn't a hybrid, it'd be the same story)" Third-parties can do well on Nintendo systems, as they're reporting pretty good sales so far, Rabbids, from what I've seen, is making a blast, and in the end, that's a third-party game, even if it has Mario in it.
I'm a home-console player, but I'm not blind. Handheld offers access to a market closed to PS4/Xbox One, make no mistake about it. The Switch will probably have less people like myself, that use it as a pure home-console, but have people in addition that buy it for the handheld part.
Nintendo are doing a damn fine job of supporting the system, and if third-parties can find ways to utilize the hardware for games like Rabbids, then I do not see why they can't have a good relationship. Sure, the multiplats won't be there, but if we get other games in their stead, that will probably run better and play just as well, then I'll be all aboard.
@UmniKnight
Yes, some 3rd party games will do well. But generally speaking, that market has shifted and will never return. That's just the reality of the situation. We'll see a nice selection of 3rd party games- likely more meaningful support than Wii or Wii U, but still only a small portion in the grand scheme of things- the "western AAA" segment of games will likely skip the system entirely barring a few exceptions.
And that's ok. Nowhere is there a written rule which states those specific games are needed to be a legit console. It doesn't and never did need those games, it just needs enough games, be it those or any other. And Switch is definitely getting games.
@Anti-Matter Keep to the plan, man!
I'm pretty happy with it so far!
@JaxonH It's not a good thing to get hung up on what you don't get. Better to look forward to what one can/does get, that's what I've accepted with the Switch.
Only real misstep I've seen so far is the voice chat (granted I don't use it but it should have been integrated into the system I feel.). The rest of it is a non issue (storage is a "issue" on the 4KTwins as well... just buy a microSD and let it go) and just waiting on VC but that isn't an issue so much as patience...and I can wait. I have too many games to play on the switch as is.
I still love my Switch even though I don't have that many games as I have no interest in Neo Geo games. During lunch at work it's been a life saver, I even have mini Mario Kart 8 tournaments with work colleagues which is a real time killer. PC is still my main platform, but the Switch is awesome, which is surprising as when I first heard the rumour that it was a hybrid I had no interest in it. Once they add video streaming like YouTube, Netflix and so on that will be great.
With all the back and forward there really are few legit gripes about the system unless you seek them out looking for more. The phone app is crap, the VC is still missing, why no app(netflix etc), and the wonky voice chat but it fairly well ends there. That is at least with the caveat of those who are into not owning games having to buy a bigger memory card for a download, but that's a choice and not forced.
Unlike the sorry WiiU and really kind of even the Wii, this system can very well stand on its own as both a specialized console and handheld without running out of stuff to do.
If you miss some of those 3rd party games that don't get converted, if you own a semi-solid PC that resolves itself anyway (which I do and I know others do as well.) Switch isn't a problem other than the shortages caused by the NAND issue between Apple getting most and Nintendo compared getting scraps. Once they get over that hump and can pump out hardware in force sales should get very interesting when there's a truly ready to walk in supply anywhere.
For all we know maybe they have resolved it and they're backlogging a heap of units for the holiday season to screw scalpers. Won't know until the end of the year happens and it's months away.
I still haven't seen enough to convince me it's time to buy one. BotW is fine on my wiiu, not a big fan of Splatoon, and I have XCOM2 in lieu of...rabbids. Nothing else really screams out at me as necessary gaming experiences yet. That might change depending on how Odyssey and XC2 shape up.
Loving it! Been playing Splatoon 2 and Sonic Mania as of late. After I finish Splatoon 2's campaign I'll pick up Mario + Rabbids, which should last for a while. Then I'll grab DB Xenoverse 2 and play that.
I think it's nicely poised. There are definitely some games that were great anyway but that have found a perfect home on the Switch. Like MK8.
Nintendo's very clear understanding of their new formats capabilities and audience are one of the biggest positives (and the biggest contrast to the Wii U).
A joy con with a proper d-pad and a system update to allow blue tooth headphones (don't care about voice chat - just want wireless headphones) would be at the top of my wish list.
Other than that add some media apps like the iPlayer and I (& many others) don't need to worry about ever buying another iPad.
This Christmas will be successful for Nintendo but it could be huge. Like the second coming of the Wii or the iPad at its peak.
It's a good system, but seems very overhyped and overrated at this point in time.
Not a lot of new games, but I suppose that is normal for a new system although I had hoped for a bit more six months in (although I've only had a Switch for about a month). Maybe after the developers catch up as I'm sure several were hesitant to see how sales went.
Doesn't seem to be much innovation on the Switch. Snipperclips is great, but seems like a Wii game. I haven't tried Arms or 1-2-Switch, however. Zelda is an awesome game, but seems to have been developed mostly for the WiiU.
The OS doesn't seem to be there for much of anything. I know it's supposed to be a gaming system, but a lot of people would like it to be more--at the very least it should have Netflix.
It'll certainly be interesting to see how things go in the next six months.
Can't believe the number of people posting that they have decided not to buy one yet. I respect your decision however as someone that loves video games I believe all current gen systems are worth buying. Your just missing out on some great games.
@speedracer216 Just out of curiosity, why is it a problem if a console is getting a lot of indie games? I'm not trying to point a finger at you as you're not the only one who has stated this. But I just don't get it. I can understand complaining about ports, but many indie games these days are just as good as a lot of AAA games. In fact, I feel that most Nintendo fans should feel more at home playing indie games than with the unnecessary bombast of most AAA games.
So far it's been pretty bad. Nintendo has released only AAA game six months in. That is not acceptable. There needs to be at least one AAA game per month.
@FiveDigitLP
Indy games are not a problem. I love a great many of them. The "problem" part is if I say "yay 100 games on switch!" and over half are indy type e-shop games that were on steam years ago or don't take advantage of the hardware etc.
I've remembered the other irritation I have-nots know of support for Bluetooth headphones and lack of headphone socket on the Pro Controller. Baffling oversight.
@gatorboi352 Ditto for everything you said except the Xbox 1. For me it's the PS4 pro. Amazing games (not COD or battlefield or any over hyped fps) with regular non insulting sales ala Nintendo.
I've been pleased as punch with my Switch since the 3rd of March. I have nine retail games for it and about as many downloads, and I've seen it go from "that toy that plays Zelda and Fast RMX" to a genre-spanning box of wonders that occupies a place near the center of my family life.
My eldest daughter has really only caught the bug with BOTW, but she has put a good 180ish hours into that game. She also plays a little Mario Kart with us, has taken the Switch to sleepovers , and is looking forward to Stardew Valley and Skyrim.
My youngest is completely Switch crazy. From Street Fighter 2 to ARMS, Fast RMX and Snipperclips, she devours games on the Switch as one of the best outlets for her boundless energy. She gets in over her head sometimes with strategic gameplay, but is excellent at the physical side and a stone killer in fighting games. We play together ALL the time; ARMS "round robin" sessions, MK8, SF2, Snipperclips, Bomberman, taking turns at Shantae. ARMS has been the absolute best. We fight for an hour or so with her using motion controls and me on pro controller. We play that you have to change fighter with every match, so usually we play once through the roster and then a few repeats.
We play on TV, tabletop in hotel rooms and restaurants, handheld in the break room at my hospital, and she plays in the car.
I have found so many games worth spending dozens of hours in. Zelda. Disgaea 5. MK8, Splatoon 2, ARMS. Until June or so you could still make the argument that there wasn't a ton of innovation or any must-have exclusives. ARMS and Spla2oon changed all that.
We have never had a single technical problem. Our Switch has not warped, scratched or disconnected. It does not freeze, it does not overheat. It had a single weird memory issue. It has survived drops. Its battery hasn't failed us. The Joy-Con haven't glitched at all.
I could easily spend twice as much money on games and not buy any bad ones. So far I only have a couple of games that didn't really justify their cost. Even those weren't bad games, just not amazing ones.
I wish the Switch had themes, and some amount of customization and interaction. I miss the Streetpass/Spotpass pickups. Some more interaction with friends online would be good. I'd love to see some new communication options in future games, and not through some stupid phone app. (I really, really don't need more phone apps). But aside from those little extras, I love my Switch. I expect that by this time next year it will have taken a spot next to the Gamecube and 3DS as my favorite gaming systems of all time.
Bring on Skyrim!
I really do not think the SD card requirement is really at all even an issue. It's 2017, they aren't expensive. Most other devices require you to bloody install the game to the hard drive! Other devices don't even allow you to add more storage(Apple).
Otherwise I agree with your points.
I love the the Switch. It is by far the best console I've ever own (well, that might be not true as I still think the Super NES was beyond awesome) but, honestly, since I completed Breath of the Wild I haven't touched it except for the occasional Mario Kart or ARMS quick play.
It all comes to games and Japan simply hasn't got as many games as the West, specially eShop releases.
Mario + Rabbids? No
Rayman Legends? Nope
Snake Pass? Sorry, that one isn't available
Maybe Overcooked? Oops, that game isn't anywhere to be seen either
The list goes on and on... and, as much as I love it, my Switch keeps accumulating dust because of it.
I bought a New 2DS XL last July (my first DS system ever!) because of Metroid: Samus Returns, and that system is giving me loads of fun instead.
I know that the games will come eventually to the Switch but, so far, they haven't yet, and many of them (specially many western games) will never come.
My relationship with my Switch is bittersweet right now.
So far I've bought:
BotW
Minecraft
MKD8
Disgaea 5
Splatoon 2
Sonic Mania
Mario+Rabbids
That's a whole lot of gaming right there. Hopefully we get Pokemon, Animal Crossing, Fire Emblem, Castlevania and Metroid in the next few years.
I'd like VC asap, especially GameCube, DreamCast and SegaSaturn.
Add a left joy-con with a D-pad and I'm sorted. 😊
The other improvements listed I can live without, even Virtual Console, but the thing I want most is cloud saving. It's essential when cartridges are not writable.
I have a few minor complaints (and most of them mirror the ones in the article), but all in all I'm having a great time with the console. You'll notice the only commenters who are giving it a poor review don't actually own a Switch. That should tell you something.
@Exy Opposite. I have never played the thing in "handheld mode" for more than a few minutes. It is either on a TV, a monitor or in tabletop mode.
@OGGamer i mean i kinda like COD lol...
All I play is NEO GEO games, and I'm completely fine with that
As someone who actually OWNS the system in question (unlike a portion of the people commenting here) I have to give it a solid A-. Needs more app support, it's bare bones. One might say it's inadequate in that regard, and they'd be right. Other than that, the software is great, and switching between play styles is a breeze. Can't ask for a system to do much more than advertised.
No internet browser, Video player and image viewer - is BAD.
@Anti-Matter that's a fine plan!
I have just started to see Switches on the shelf at the Wa-Mart where I am in Canada. I'm tempted to buy one, but my backlog is to big right now. I think I'll wait for Mario and possibly a Black Friday bundle. It would have been nice if Nintendo had learned from the Wii U though, 32GB is nowhere near enough. Also has the system been patched so saves can be moved to the SD card from the internal storage?
I own a PS4 & Xbox One S and my favorite console, due to its dynamic nature of being portable and dockable, is the Switch. Zelda, Mariokart & ARMS are great to play and I've also enjoyed Ironcast quite a bit. It's also been fun playing SFII, outside with buddies, while BBQing.
That being said, he online voice chat is a joke. What are they smoking at Nintendo??? Put down the crack, this is a problem that shouldn't exist. The VC also needs to make an appearance pronto.
Overall, the killer design of the console plus Zelda have enabled it to overcome mistakes and errors that only Nintendo could manufacture.
@maruse
Yeah but you could buy those games due to the Switch being multiregion. Fair enough if you don't want to but that's not really a mark against the Switch.cyoure choosing to maintain the 'bitter' part of the bittersweet relationship.
The first few months have been lacklustre for me in terms of game releases, with none of the big titles having any appeal. However things are ramping up over the next couple of months with the likes of Fire Emblem Warriors, Steamworld Dig 2, Wulverblade and Axiom Verge.
I think Switch is set for a good Christmas season and will but it's stride next year if Nintendo maintains a steady stream of middling to big releases.
@electrolite77 Although you are right in that it is "relatively" easy to buy games from other stores (either digitally or importing) you seem to fail to understand that not everyone speaks English.
I don't have any problem with a game being in English only, but I have kids and they only understand Japanese, so buying a game in English would mean that they can't play it while enjoying it to the fullest unless there is a game where language is almost non existent.
Also, not everyone wants the hassle to keep several different accounts with all the problems that arise from that (specially adding funds to that accounts since Japanese credit cards aren't accepted)
That could be easily solved if all (or at least, most) games were to be released simultaneously (or within acceptable timeframes) globally. After all, now developers only need one build of the game for all regions (as opposed to one build for each region, like with the 3DS) and there are many games that require little to no localization at all.
Take as an example Snake Pass. Is that a game heavy on dialog or anything? I think not. I asked the developers on Twitter when they were going to release the game in Japan (way back in April or May) and, to my surprise, they actually answered. Their answer was that they were busy translating the game into Japanese... Like I said, is that a game with such an overwhelming amount of text that translation takes months? I don't know the reason why most games don't come to Japan, but I'm sure localization is not one of them, that is just a poor excuse.
Anyway, I wouldn't have a problem if I were to buy the games just for me, but I want my kids to play them as well.
Realised I never really "graded" the system so here we go!
A solid B+ so far. Whilst it may not have had the impact of the Wii, I feel the Switch's first 6 Months have been good. The portability and the opportunities for quick play have really helped the system shine in my eyes and I see it as Nintendo's best system since the Wii. Nicely designed, feels good, Kickstand is not the best though. A second one on the other side to stabilise the system would have been nice.
A steady stream of titles and an ever expanding library, yet never overwhelming to keep sensible wallets happy and good times on the horizon. The Christmas season looks good with at least 3 high end Nintendo offerings for me.
Like anything a few niggles like the Voice Chat (which impacts different people in different ways) and the barebones eShop bring it down from A-ranking territory but overall a great start in my book.
And skyscrapers above Nintendo's previous console the Wii U, which over time I'm seeing more and more as a poorly designed product with some high quality titles.
@maruse
Ah fair enough. Yeah I didn't get that. I can understand some of the Indies not having the resource to easily get translation's done but Ubi Soft/Nintendo don't have that excuse. Maybe you can try some of the games that aren't text-heavy - your kids might finish up like me as a youngster playing through imported SNES games like Contra Spirits with Japanese text. There wasn't much of a story anyway 😜
My least favorite thing about the Switch: using the dark theme does not carry through to the eShop. Going from a late night game session to checking the shop is an unpleasantly dazzling experience.
So simple to fix.
So far the only games I want are some indies, Odyssey and some other 3 1st party games. No way I'm buying 3rd party stuff on Switch.
As for a ranking , I'd say B+
So much is right (hardware, games) but without VC, Media apps, decent headphone options when docked it's not an A yet.
Main plus is that it's not another Wii U. Another Console of that standard and I'd have stayed clear of Nintendo this gen.
This has been one of my favourite console launches. The quality of games has been amazing so far I find my self struggling not to buy more and more.
There are still things to be fixed, improved and introduced yet but overall I'm loving the system so far. 8 out of 10.
It shouldn't be called the Switch at all. It should be called;
The GameBoy XL with TV adapter.
And the slogan should be;
Indies on the Go ☺️
I just upgraded to a PS4 last week so I'm scooping up some great AAA games for cheap. I can wait until Switch 2.0 since I've got a Wii U so it just looks like ports and old franchises. I'd love one in 18 months though when they've sorted VC, the library is deeper and My Nintendo has been scrapped.
One thing that really strikes me when reading the comments is that most of the Switch's detractors don't own one.
Obviously, the comeback to that is that they don't own one because they don't want one! That said, I think once you actually use a Switch you really realise its worth in a way that isn't always apparent from just reading about it.
Personally, it's my favourite console in a long time.
@maruse
That's odd given that Japan usually gets more games than the West and Western gamers are usually the ones upset about many Japan only releases. We are still waiting for Mother 3 and Japanese Switch gamers have access to Secret of Mana Trilogy.
@electrolite77 I've yet to find proper replacements for Nintendo's IP, so I guess I'm stuck to their hardware for now.
@UmniKnight
There aren't any. And just like Nintendo are staying clear of the Western AAA battle, there's nothing to be gained from Sony or MS trying to be Nintendo.
I wish they'd use some of their franchises more. I miss Advance Wars, F-Zero, Wave Race, but if concentrating on one machine allows them to leverage all their franchises Switch will have a great library.
After 6 months, some issues:
1. joy-cons
too small and uncomfortable, left joy-con connectivity problems
2. screen
outdoor visibility is horrible if sunny
3. headset
no bluetooth headset support, no built in voice chat
4. internet
Demo videos lags to slideshow and MK8 Deluxe online disconnecting all the time, meanwhile Wii U online works fine. Speedtest 40M/20M ping 30ms, don't know what's wrong
@electrolite77 And yet Nintendo has finite IP at the end of the day, and they're not all for everyone, let alone fatigue of overuse being a thing. They need the thirds to lend a hand soon, or they'll start dropping the quality of their games due to having to crank them out to sustain the Switch.
Rabbids is a great start, but that's all it is: A start. More is needed if the Switch is to remain relevant, and that cannot wait for long. It's getting quite a few games, but a lot of those are A. old ports and B. indies. Not to say they're bad, but their appeal is very limited.
@-Green- How come you've got a bad feeling then?
@UmniKnight More or less just a gut feeling, and the past trends not being very good for Nintendo. I do hope it succeeds. It's always nice to see people get the games and support they wished for.
@-Green- If Sony does decide to contest the Switch with their deals, and a much stronger hybrid, then I'd share a bleak outlook with you. As for support and games, I can only say hardly on support. Switch is getting water-tested all around, and even if the sales are good, it just gets more testing instead of solid support. The only ones to pledge that are NIS/NISA.
Games, eh, It's hard for me to see that. I've got a grand total of 5 games, where I see some people with 10-20+, and I can imagine a lot of those being Indies (nothing wrong with those, but their scope is limited)
@UmniKnight
They have more than enough IP and more than enough development capacity to support one machine, they just struggle to support two. Between 2012 and 2015 they were putting out over 20 games a year across different formats. They can manage one a month on one platform, easy.
Third-party support (especially Japanese support) will come as long as it keeps selling. The reason it will sell its first 20 to 30 million is Nintendo's own software (see 3DS). The variety third-party support gives will provide momentum to go beyond that but it isn't anywhere near as important as Nintendo getting their full roster of IP on there.
@-Green-
Past trends for Nintendo handhelds are very good
@electrolite77 And in the face of a Sony hybrid, with unanimous support due to their deals and such, will see Nintendo's Switch sales dwindle severely if not completely. Zelda has been used to start Switch off with, Mario Odyssey will soon follow, along with Pokemon and FE. They're firing all their bullets hoping this succeeds, but their IP is finite. They'll lose to Sony with all their third-party backing, no question about it.
@electrolite77 I mean more along the downward trend Nintendo consoles have in terms of sales. Except for the Wii, of course.
@UmniKnight
Maybe. But what would a Sony hybrid actually be? They struggled to carry that third-party support over to PSP and Vita.
Why would they want to divert their focus away from the home Console market where they're consistently successful? Supporting more than one machine has historically been difficult for Sony and Nintendo.
If it's just a miniature PS4 what will it cost? What will battery life be like? What's the revenue stream in terms of software over and above what they would sell/have sold on PS4? Maybe they could lock people further into their ecosystem and knock Nintendo out of the market but it's a gamble.
It sounds an appetising prospect but I'm not sure it will happen. Too many questions and too much potential diversion from their real battle ahead which is PS5. I'd be happy to be wrong though.
@-Green-
That's what I mean. They're not great at selling home Consoles but their handheld sales are consistently very good. 3DS approaching 70 million sales in the current market is remarkable.
@electrolite77 There's another spanner to throw into these works, that being PS VR. They're really going in hard on that, and a weaker hybrid won't be able to offer good VR is my guess, so they'll probably continue along their lines all things considered.
You're safe for now, Nintendo, better work hard to maintain it.
@electrolite77 "That's what I mean. They're not great at selling home Consoles but their handheld sales are consistently very good. 3DS approaching 70 million sales in the current market is remarkable." Welp, guess I should start accounting for a dockless Switch in the future.
@UmniKnight
"You're safe for now, Nintendo, better work hard to maintain it"
Agreed. They tend to get complacent. Hopefully not this time.
"guess I should start accounting for a dockless Switch in the future."
IMHO that's what will 'replace' 3DS in 2019.
@electrolite77 Actually, let me ask you something. Do you own a 3DS? And if so, did you buy it because of the 3D/DS feature, or because you've had no choice to play some of those games? I'm firmly in the 2nd camp with all of Nintendo's machines. The Switch doesn't offer me this spectacular feature of portability, because I couldn't care less. It'd actually benefit me if Sony were to beat Nintendo out of the competition, and get them to make games for PS instead.
A dockless Switch... not like the current Switch has much home-console to it...
6 months in and i own 5 games on my Switch, i thought id be stuck with Zelda for at least till Winter. All the good games i want are on the way though so i expect to have another 10 games before year 1.
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