Overall I see this a being positive in most respects. It's a simple runner game that's perfectly suited to mobile—I'd much rather this than a game that forces virtual d-pad and button controls on these platforms that just aren't suited to them—and it gives Nintendo a chance to put its main character in front of even more consumers. And, I'm optimistic it won't have any major impact on the full Mario games coming to Nintendo's dedicated platforms. So, for now at least, I don't have any problems with this game. I just wish I could try the demo when it arrives, but my iPhone 4 sadly doesn't work with most new games now. That's Apple's fault, not Nintendo's.
Yes, it was really annoying. Just like when it made the cartridge slot so small it wouldn't take Game Boy games without them sticking out the top, which for OCD perfectionists like me was really frustrating. But, ultimately, the GBA SP is still one of the greatest little handhelds ever. And the GBA SP in black in just a thing of beauty imo:
PS. I really don't like the stupid looking wireless headphones on the new iPhone 7:
He's trying real hard to look cool . . . but he just doesn't look cool.
It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't look so daft. But Apple's design aesthetics have went downhill slowly but surely since the iPhone 4, imo, and certainly once Steve Job's guiding hand was no longer present.
Well, at least Super Mario Run is coming to mobile. . . .
Also, the situation doesn't seem quite as negative towards Nintendo's flop of a platform when it's made clear that the PS Vita version has also been cancelled. It makes the Wii U seem just a little bit less pathetic and a little bit less of the "only if I can really bothered" option or like the "mentally challenged cousin that no one talks about". Basically, The developer is pretty much just stopping with any further versions after getting it out on the main/obvious platforms of choice, and that seems fair enough to me.
As someone who works with Game Maker, I can totally understand the developer not wanting to spend another X months trying to force a version of the game onto the likes of PS Vita and Wii U, especially when these consoles are pretty dead at this point anyway and the game possibly won't even see enough downloads/sales to make the extra effort worthwhile.
Too big a gap from "it looks good" to "I'm not sure". It looks OK, although nothing special, and I'm sure it will do fine.
If your poll was a bit less confirmation biased, maybe with a clearer selection of great, good, OK/average, bad, terrible, it might be easier for me to vote.
Because "Hm, I'm not sure at the moment" really isn't the same as OK or average but with nothing particularly questionable about it to be unsure of. I'm pretty dang sure it's OK.
@BiasedSonyFan Well then, it's a real shame many of those modern gamers are enjoying lesser quality games and will never know how good gaming can actually get. If all they're playing is mobile stuff and some of the less than stellar games Nintendo's been throwing out of late, like Star Fox Zero, they've never enjoyed the best that gaming has to offer, and certainly not the best Nintendo has to offer. That's like them eating a chocolate dipped in mud and thinking they know how amazing chocolate is. They don't know how truly amazing chocolate is and can be, and I feel bad for them if that's the case—no one should miss out on tasting truly amazing chocolate. No one should miss out on playing games that truly represent the best gaming has to offer—if only they knew, if only they knew—and they're not gonna experience the best of the best playing Super Mario Run on iOS, which is genuinely and deeply personally really sad to me. Because, playing a game like Super Mario Run will never change anyone's life or inspire them to one day want to make their own videogames, or at least I very much doubt it will, and the right/best videogames absolutely have the power to do that. It's so sad to me that so many modern casual gamers will never understand this or feel it deep in their hearts like I absolutely do.
@AhabSpampurse On mobiles you're never going to get a "real" Mario game because the touch-screen controls just aren't suited to it. Sure, you could probably get a slightly more complex Mario game than this but it's about what I expected to be honest, which is low effort and likely high financial reward.
Well, it makes sense. Looks like a pretty barebones effort, even the background looks totally flat in the short demo footage I watched for example, but hopefully it should be decent enough fun for a few minutes at a time.
@TerrapinJess Yeah, I think what many modern gamers have forgotten is how much fun certain types of older games can be. They've become so obsessed with games being all realistic and simulationy that they don't even realise they're often nowhere near as much pure fun as just playing a more arcadey game. I mean, Sega Rally Championship was a joy to play; not that it was the same kind of top-down racer as this, but I'm just making a point about sometimes the more simple and arcadey games really can be a whole load of pure fun.
I actually like the look of this. I like the particular zoomed out view here (gives plenty view of the track ahead, which is really important in these top-down racers), and the controls/gameplay look solid/smooth too in the footage.
@aaronsullivan Yeah, ultimately, Nintendo's plan of using mobile to simply sell more of its own dedicated hardware and games seems to be working pretty much perfectly. So kudos to Nintendo for that at least.
@rjejr Yeah, I agree. I think Nintendo needs this thing to run smooth as butter. But these lives shows do carry a sense of importance and grandiose with them, which the NDs really don't in my opinion, and that's something that would be great for NX. So, it's a tough choice. Christ, just do ALL OF THEM!
What was the site maintenance or whatever that annoyingly stopped Nintendo Life working for half of the day and totally interrupted the flow of this conversation?
"The issue arises when it comes to actually playing anything on the app - for that, you need ROM files and these are naturally covered by copyright."
Not if it's original fan-made games that simply run on these emulators, of which there are actually quite a few.
As long as this App isn't breaking any laws and it's not supplying any Nintendo's ROM files directly, I think it would be extremely dodgy of Microsoft to start dictating that stuff like this isn't allowed on the store when it's legally and technically not breaking any rules whatsoever. That would be very much about these corporations serving their own best interests collectively at the corrosion of the laws that are supposed to be there to protect creative works/projects like this. It's not Microsoft's job or legal responsibility to pre-determine how such things may or may not be abused and pre-emptively strike them down before a single copyright crime has ever even been committed. If any copyright issues should arise then it can and should deal with them when they do. That's how the law should work to serve the best interests of everyone and not just the corporate agenda.
This also goes to why Tim Sweeney is worried about Microsoft's Windows 10 environment becoming more "unified" and becoming a more and more closed system and walled garden:
@ThanosReXXX Well, I think you'll at least get the handheld part. I'm not so sure about the home console part personally. But, you have your sources and if you really trust them then you might just get what you want.
@ThanosReXXX Well, yeah, I'm absolutely speculating, just as much as everyone else, and I'm ultimately just as clueless as everyone else as to what the hell Nintendo is doing with NX beyond some rumours.
So, were/are you disappointed with the 3DS? I consider that an all round pretty great handheld at this point, as was true with basically every other previous Nintendo handheld too, and I'm excited for Nintendo's next handheld almost by default as a result. Nintendo really hasn't given me any strong reason to doubt it's ability to deliver another great handheld going forward.
Ignoring what you would like NX to be for a second, is there a reason you would be disappointed if Nintendo's next handheld were as powerful as a Wii U+, let you play it through the TV when at home, allowed you to play all its previous console's games (both handheld and home console) with controls that feel basically perfect for each of those platforms, would see some of the most robust first party support to date, and was pretty much guaranteed to sell enough units to see strong third party support too?
Right now, and based on the rumours, that is NX to me.
@ThanosReXXX Well, funnily enough, the rumours have said that Nintendo is going to focus on the notion of the NX being about "gaming on the go" and "taking your games with you".
If this had been called Nintendo's next handheld from the get-go, rather than it being left ambiguous and everyone assuming it's a new dedicated home console, we wouldn't be having this conversation; you'd be hyped out your nut for it, as would all of us.
All Nintendo has to do is bring the thinking back around to it basically being the next great handheld system, which you can additionally play on your TV—have an Ad showing kids playing it on the bus and in the park and then when they get home they plug it into their TV and continue playing from there—problem solved.
@ThanosReXXX The Wii U functionality would just be one function of the system, just as the Wii is a function of the Wii U but it's not a Wii. It's just as much a DS/3DS or Wii as it is a Wii U.
All Nintendo has to do is market it as its next-gen handheld, the most powerful handheld ever created (which can also play on your TV), and the problem of it being perceived as a Wii U is basically eliminated.
@ThanosReXXX Well, that's why it's not solely a Wii U with its most obvious issues addressed and decent sales numbers; that alone wouldn't be enough anymore. It's clearly far, far more than that. And, again, it's not a weak and underpowered home console; it's the most powerful handheld console of all time.
A handheld that also functions as a home console and that also allows you to play every single game from each and every one of the lineages of those Nintendo platforms (handheld and home console), in a way that actually controls basically perfectly with each and every legacy platform, is a step away from an underpowered home console that has a touch screen gimmick and requires a bunch of separate peripherals just to play some of the legacy games. And that's just the hardware; no one's talked about the software or firmware yet—just imagine if Nintendo did something like the creation suite I mentioned. Also, being something new and different obviously doesn't mean it can't also contain many familiar elements too.
@ThanosReXXX I know you are, and I know you're not. lol
If the rumours are true you'll get a home console that is basically the Wii U all over again in terms of power (just a little bit more powerful and with a few necessary tweaks/fixes here and there), but it will also be a Wii U that you can actually use as a proper Nintendo handheld and will likely see the kinds of sales numbers and third party support that Nintendo's handhelds usually see. So, it's basically the Wii U we all wanted in the first place (at least the Wii U I wanted), combined with the next-gen Nintendo handheld we could only dream of until now.
I think you will get excited . . . once you finally get it properly.
@ThanosReXXX Those detachable controllers are mostly just so it supports Wii games out the box, as I see it. It's basically Nintendo's slightly better solution to making a single console that happens to be able to play all of Nintendo's legacy games than my own solution, because I never managed to come up with a design that actually also included the Wiimotes. But, it's primary function is not being a Wii; it's being and awesome hybrid system that's a truly stunning handheld and a pretty great little home console too (basically a Wii U+, but this time surely with better sales and better support).
If this hybrid NX sells what I imagine such a system would sell you will get most of those games. Likely, they won't be as graphically impressive as the other home consoles, but I think with such a hybrid system that becomes mostly irrelevant.
I think sacrificing raw power on the home console end is the choice that has to be made, because no one is buying Nintendo home consoles anymore anyway, and the people that are are clearly fine with underpowered hardware, which the NX, as a home console, will continue that trend just fine and dandy.
@ThanosReXXX Again, that's only an issue if you think of the NX as being basically a home console that's competing directly with Sony's and Microsoft's home consoles, which, if it's a hybrid and primarily handheld as rumoured, it is not. As a handheld, getting a mobile port of Fifa 17 is not a negative; just like it wouldn't be a negative to 3DS owners to get a slightly less graphically intensive 3DS version of Fifa 17, and just as it wouldn't be a negative to see a slightly less graphically intensive version of Fifa 17 on Apple TV. The thing to keep repeating here is that NX is not a next-gen home console intended to directly compete with other next-gen home consoles graphically, at least as it's rumoured, it's the most powerful handheld ever created that can, as a total bonus, also play its games on your TV in a way that isn't just a total clunky gimmick. It is primarily a handheld but it does also function basically as a perfect Wii U when played at home, for all intents and purposes, and a Wii (with "Wimmotes" included), and a NES, SNES, N64, GC, possibly many other retro consoles . . . and maybe even a tablet too. And, it allows you to enjoy both handheld and home console gaming at a fraction of the prices of what two separate new handheld and home console systems would cost. That's all IF the NX is this rumoured hybrid but primarily handheld console with detachable "Wiimotes" and all the other stuff.
@ThanosReXXX You're right about the Wii; a lot of crap came to that system from third parties. We'd just have to hope that since this hybrid NX would not be primarily focused on a new type of control (even as versatile as it would be) that developers would see it's possible to simply put normal and popular games on there rather than mostly gimmicky casual junk.
Regarding Fifa 17 coming to NX: I personally don't think that says much about the power of the system. Fifa 17 is likely to come out on pretty much every platform in existence in one form or another, including even DS probably, so it could be anything on NX as far as I'm concerned. Yes, it probably will use Frostbite, but if NX is around the power of PS4 and Xbox One or just below, as rumoured, I'm pretty sure EA can make a decent version of the game for the system if it really wants to and it believes it will be financially worth it in the end.
@ThanosReXXX I think it's irrelevant that this game or that game wouldn't work on the system and probably wouldn't be down-ported; my whole point is looking at it in the same way the likes of Xbox 360 and PS3 saw down-ports of loads of current-gen games just because devs thought it made sense to do so (not all games but many games). I'm simply saying it would probably make similar sense with this rumoured hybrid NX, that's at a power level slightly more than a Wii U, to down-port a whole bunch of current-gen games, especially as the machine is supposed to support Unreal Engine 4 (which has down-porting, or downscaling, basically built into it). If the NX sells as many units as I imagine it could then I can't see any good reason why the big devs wouldn't want to support it with a bunch of down-ports, thinking of it primarily as Nintendo's latest cutting-edge handheld rather than an underpowered home console (which is where the Wii U failed, both in terms of not selling anywhere near enough units in year one and being an underpowered and under-featured home console).
PS. That list of rumoured titles means absolutely nothing to me; it could have been made up by a woman on the street for all I know. I certainly wouldn't use it to discuss what may or may not be the case with NX. I've seen a thousand such lists in my time, but I'll only believe whatever games are coming to NX when I see them officially announced.
@ThanosReXXX But they were for a long time, and I expect the same would be true of a brand new handheld with slightly more power than a Wii U. I expect a hybrid NX like this would get a whole lot of PS4 and Xbox One games down-ported to it (and both those systems are going to see new games for quite some time), especially if it's predicted to sell anywhere near as many units as any of Nintendo's previous handhelds (and I see no reason why it wouldn't). The Wii U basically had the same idea in the home console space but failed because it sold utterly crap. I really don't think Nintendo's brand new handheld needs to worry about that, however, particularly if it's also capable of being used as a home console too.
@ThanosReXXX I only tried to nullify the importance of Nintendo's current home console users (and their monetary equivalent) in terms of the loss of them not being a real "loss" as I see it, because I expect most current Wii U owners who are waiting for a new Nintendo console would simply get the hybrid NX, especially seeing as the majority of them are clearly hardcore Nintendo fans and the NX would be their only option of a new Nintendo console at that point. And, I believe NX by design would be a more attractive value proposition to more people than once again going with a separate handheld and home console model, so my predicted overall increased total sales (more than 3DS and Wii U combined) by being a hybrid system negates the loss of sales of the dedicated home console part of the business, and it also just makes everything easier for everyone involved too.
But, you are correct, it does and would take a lot to get it right—which is true whatever Nintendo decides to do—and it's Nintendo's job to make sure it gets it right.
@aaronsullivan Yeah, that's possible too. But I was just meaning it was obviously heavily invested in mobile long before Pokemon Go came along (primarily with hardware), whether it was failing or not, and Pokemon Go is probably what convinced it simply to dive deeper into the dedicated mobile games aspect. But, I expect it would have eventually dipped its toes in those water regardless; I think Pokemon Go just acted as a [business] game changer for the company by making it a sure thing and an immediate thing. Basically, I'm just trying to say that this isn't a case of Sony just straight copying some genius move by Nintendo that Sony had hitherto never even considered or whatever, which is basically what a lot of people are going to now claim; it was clear Sony saw the future in mobile already (long before Nintendo even), and the success of Pokemon Go just cemented its original position that it was definitely worth pursuing, hard, and now. Or something like that.
@ThanosReXXX "Now, just for the sake of the argument, let's suppose that all the third parties that were interviewed and said they were positive and/or even enthusiastic about NX were actually completely honest, then how the heck would you see most of these kinds of games listed coming to a handheld or a "connect to TV" device that is considerably weaker than the other two current gen consoles?"
In much the same way I see a whole bunch of current-gen games coming to the likes of Xbox 360 and PS3 already . . . because developers actually see value in supporting those systems even though they're last-gen tech.
And, you seem to be obsessed with the idea that Nintendo will ultimately lose consumers and lose money if it doesn't make a dedicated home console as well as a handheld going forward; like the loss of the 13 million Wii U owners means the overall sales numbers can't possibly go up higher than they are now in general. But, let's just imagine if Wii never existed at all . . . the DS still ultimately sold more consoles than 3DS and Wii U combined thus far; and I'm predicting a hybrid NX would sell more like the DS plus a little bit of the Wii than the DS plus the Wii U. I'm trying to say that I think such a hybrid portable is setting itself up to be Nintendo's most successful handheld of all time, by virtue of being its best handheld ever PLUS basically a home console too. So, where you see a loss, I see a gain. I guess it's all about how we come at it.
I genuinely believe a hybrid NX, if handled properly, has the potential to be the biggest selling console of all time (handheld and home console)—again, IF it's handled right. And in that scenario it's basically irrelevant that it's a single console rather than a separate handheld and home console; in fact, it just makes things a whole lot simpler and more streamlined for both Nintendo and the consumer.
I fully believe Sony was already way down this path long before Pokemon Go, but I also have no doubt Pokemon Go has indeed been a game changer in many ways across the industry and has convinced Sony more than ever that mobile is to be taken seriously.
@ThanosReXXX I'll be honest and say that I don't really think home console gamers are entirely relevant to Nintendo anymore if it isn't going to properly compete with Sony and Microsoft in terms of graphical power and even entertainment/multi-media functionality with a new home console, and I really don't think it is. Other than a handful of the most loyal fans, no one is buying that new but still underpowered and under-featured Nintendo home console. That's why I personally don't think it's a major loss basically merging the home console aspect of its business into a hybrid portable device. And your mate might not have historically been interested in Nintendo's handhelds but I'd wager a Nintendo hybrid handheld like the NX, as I see it, would be a lot more interesting to him than any typical handheld, and especially if it is Nintendo's only console going forward (one that basically plays every single handheld and home console game it's ever made).
Personally, I don't see Nintendo losing consumers with this hybrid idea; I see it combining its handheld and home console consumers into one for the most part, and ultimately selling more units than both the 3DS and Wii U have so far combined to date. And, I expect any gamers who are really only interested in home consoles, most of whom are probably in Sony and Microsoft's camps now anyway, wouldn't be interested in a new Nintendo home console that once again was underpowered and lacked third party support anyway, which, if Nintendo continued down the same old separate handheld and home console path, it almost certainly would be. So, NX not being a hybrid isn't going to net Nintendo those consumers anymore than Wii U did.
So, again—and this is just me imagining Nintendo has went with the hybrid solution for NX—I personally don't see any genuine negatives to going down that path at this point in time. All I can see is ways it fixes Nintendo's currently problems, merging all the convoluted control solutions and whatever else into one single and neat device, and finally pulling itself out of Microsoft's and Sony's shadows in the home console space, where it's not really successfully competing anyway, while also doing its own thing in a way that I believe most gamers will ultimately find genuinely compelling in one way or another. I firmly believe that most home console gamers are getting the new PlayStation and Xbox consoles regardless of what Nintendo does with NX at this point. I firmly believe most handheld gamers are getting whatever Nintendo's next handheld is regardless of what Microsoft of Sony do in this space. The small handful of millions who were going to buy Nintendo's next home console were likely dedicated fans anyway, and I expect the vast majority of them would buy NX if it's a device that still allows them to play it at home on the TV while also being a portable too. I also think quite a few people who are getting an Xbox or PlayStation by default would consider a hybrid NX as a portable companion console to those systems too. By going down the hybrid route, NX answers all those considerations as far as I'm concerned.
Outside of people simply saying that it would make them unhappy if NX was only a hybrid device, before they truly understand just what such a hybrid system would actually mean, I really don't see the downsides of where Nintendo or gamers lose in any meaningful way here by making NX a hybrid.
I mean, in this theoretical scenario, is your friend seriously going to pass up a new Nintendo console (the only new Nintendo console available) that lets him play games from every single one of its handheld and home consoles ever made, both at home and on the go, that's the most powerful handheld ever built, and a pretty decent home console too (certainly at least the most powerful Nintendo home console ever, even if it's less powerful than the competition, which has been the case with Nintendo's home consoles for sometime now anyway), which will see some of the best first party support in the history of company now that the two divisions are merged and basically developing for a single system, reduces all the needless extra peripherals and attachments required to play various games, will almost certainly sell multiple tens of millions of units which basically ensures strong third party support (just like every previous Nintendo handheld), will likely half the current total cost of buying separate Nintendo handhelds and home consoles (if you want all that Nintendo has to offer) . . .
I'd call him both not a real Nintendo fan and kinda mental if he actually passed that up. The only people I'd expect to pass that up are hardcore and blindly loyal Microsoft and Sony fanboys, and they simply weren't buying Nintendo's new system whatever it did.
@ThanosReXXX I've no idea why you think Nintendo releasing its most powerful handheld ever, which also additionally happens to allow play on your TV at home too, would spell doom for third party support once again. I certainly haven't seen this major lack of third party support on any of Nintendo's previous handheld consoles, and this, by my measure, would be the most exciting and potentially lucrative handheld concept Nintendo has ever created. I don't see any good reason, as of yet, why third parties would suddenly choose not to support this new handheld from Nintendo, when they should be well aware that Nintendo's handhelds normally sell in multiple the tens of millions of units—that's a lot of potential consumers—which is ultimately all they really care about at the end of the day.
Again, I think the confusion here is that you think I'm talking about this NX hybrid idea as being Nintendo's next home console or something, a device which would naturally be competing against the likes of PS4 and Xbox One, but I'm clearly not. My whole take is that a "hybrid" NX—a handheld, which just happens to output to TV too—is ultimately designed to basically avoid that home console war for the most part, which is precisely what I think Nintendo needs to do here, because it's simply not going to win or even compete in the ongoing home console wars if it just keeps doing basically the same thing it's been doing in that space for a while now, imo.
@ThanosReXXX I don't think this handheld would stack up against the other home consoles in terms of graphics, and I don't think it would need to; it would still be the most powerful handheld ever created, and the most powerful Nintendo home console to date when running through your TV. If it were trying to be a home console then it would obviously have problems again right out the gate by being less powerful than PlayStation and Xbox, but I think the point is in trying to circumvent the need to even make that comparison—which Nintendo clearly is going to lose anyway because it's just not going to make a home console that competes on a graphics level anymore—much like no one really compares iPhone or Apple TV to home consoles.
I think a lot of you guys struggle to separate the idea of a home console from the idea of a portable. Taken as a portable alone, it would be crazy to not see how this basically isn't the best handheld Nintendo has ever created; so the notion it wouldn't sell tens of millions seems a bit daft to me, seeing as all the historical evidence of Nintendo's handheld success says otherwise. And, this would really just be its best handheld ever, which also happens to work as a home console TOO. There basically is no real home console to compare directly to Microsoft's and Sony's machines anymore, and that's the angle that I think allows this design to play to its strengths rather than its kind of non-weaknesses.
Sony any Microsoft would be left battling for the dedicated home console/entertainment centre space, and Nintendo goes off and totally dominates the handheld space once again plus captures at least the same number of sales in the "home console" space as Wii U just by virtue of the fact the thing can be played on a TV anyway. It's win win for Nintendo as far as I'm concerned. But, I think some people are stuck in the mindset of Nintendo continuing to compete in the same red ocean it's slowly but surely losing to the competition, and that's a bigger mistake than trying to carve out a slightly different path this time around imo, because I really don't see anything Nintendo can realistically do anymore to not lose the same old home console war once again—and, certainly, not a single idea I've seen in here about it about it releasing basically yet another typical home console has me believing differently, so why the hell would any developers or publishers believe any differently either.
So, the point is that this hybrid handheld with home console capability actually is a game-changer to a large degree, for Nintendo at least, as its Nintendo's shot at genuinely breaking away from the home console battle that it's almost certainly not going to win anymore, maybe not even compete anymore, while focussing its strengths in an area its historically dominated—and, as of yet, I really don't see much of a negative to that if it does this hybrid NX idea right.
But, you have your sources and you believe what they're telling you, and I simply believe a site like IGN when it tells me its confirmed the hybrid NX more than I believe any single other source I've read thus far, be that Eurogamer, Nintendo Life, you, whomever. I guess we'll all know soon enough which of these sources is more in the loop, and maybe from it we can learn some lessons, or not. . . .
And, if we're just broadly talking about Nintendo thinking it needs to protect it's ideas from the likes of Sony and Microsoft:
One could claim that Nintendo would consider that as Sony basically seeing how Nintendo decided to get into mobile gaming, and having such "game-changing" success with Pokemon Go, decided to copy it; and maybe it thinks of that as being something it wishes it could have protected from being copied by the competition. Maybe it thinks even things like this might be underlying ideas and ideals that are evident if you see the full NX picture, and maybe it wants to keep that full picture hidden from the competition for a long as possible. Just throwing out thoughts here. The point is that Nintendo clearly thinks something about NX needs to be protected from the competition, and I don't seen any reason whatsoever why the hybrid NX concept we've seen floating around couldn't be considered as containing multiple things/ideas/concepts that Nintendo might consider important enough to want to protect, be it in hardware, software, or services (probably all three).
@ThanosReXXX "I do have to wonder though, why you seem to think (even besides the whole EuroGamer rumor) that NX being a handheld is the best thing logically, or is that just a personal wish you have?"
Both, basically. And, to be clear, a handheld that also functions as a home console (just without the physical console-under-the-TV part).
"Just ask yourself this: what in the name of whoever is so very special and secret about the things that the rumor mentions, that Nintendo would be so protective of it out of fear that the competition would steal ideas from it?"
You can find the answer to that question in the comment I made on PlayerEssence's video (I'm iNCEPTIONAL):
Yeah, the upcoming lineup for 3DS is actually pretty good, and overall it's turned into a really compelling system. It's probably due for another price drop soon though, I'd suggest.
And, as I've said before, if Nintendo could really sort out that Virtual Console and get Game Boy, Game Boy Color, Game Boy Advance, DS, NES, SNES, and even Virtual Boy titles, as well as some non-Nintendo systems like Master System, Game Gear, Genesis, PC-Engine, etc., on there, basically as many retro titles from as many retro consoles as possible (and certainly all of Nintendo's handheld and home consoles until the SNES/DS at least), the 3DS really could turn into one of the most all-round satisfying Nintendo consoles ever.
As much as I'd love all the specs I've suggested to be true, it doesn't even need to have some of them to still be basically the exact same machine: I say 1080p, but the reality is that the Wii U is 1080p yet you can still see and play the games perfectly well on the much lower resolution GamePad screen, so a 720p screen (as is rumoured) would be totally fine for my idea too (even emulating the two DS/3DS screens on that single screen still works at that resolution). And this is actually true of the stereoscopic element too: If that's removed you can still play all the 3DS and even Virtual Boy games on a simple 2D screen, just as you can on the 2DS right now.
So, the point is that even though I think my idea is awesome, it can in fact be cut down slightly to maybe make it a bit more realistic in terms of the cost of the hardware, and it would still be basically the same system I'm talking about.
This makes me even more hyped for the real NX as it's rumoured to be, this hybrid console, because now in my mind it can be totally in line with my own idea with only the detachable controllers really being the main thing I didn't have.
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Re: Wii U Version Of Hyper Light Drifter Is Officially Cancelled
Well, at least Super Mario Run is coming to mobile. . . .
Also, the situation doesn't seem quite as negative towards Nintendo's flop of a platform when it's made clear that the PS Vita version has also been cancelled. It makes the Wii U seem just a little bit less pathetic and a little bit less of the "only if I can really bothered" option or like the "mentally challenged cousin that no one talks about". Basically, The developer is pretty much just stopping with any further versions after getting it out on the main/obvious platforms of choice, and that seems fair enough to me.
As someone who works with Game Maker, I can totally understand the developer not wanting to spend another X months trying to force a version of the game onto the likes of PS Vita and Wii U, especially when these consoles are pretty dead at this point anyway and the game possibly won't even see enough downloads/sales to make the extra effort worthwhile.
Re: Poll: Share Your Thoughts on Super Mario Run and the Delays to Animal Crossing and Fire Emblem on Mobile
Too big a gap from "it looks good" to "I'm not sure". It looks OK, although nothing special, and I'm sure it will do fine.
If your poll was a bit less confirmation biased, maybe with a clearer selection of great, good, OK/average, bad, terrible, it might be easier for me to vote.
Because "Hm, I'm not sure at the moment" really isn't the same as OK or average but with nothing particularly questionable about it to be unsure of. I'm pretty dang sure it's OK.
Re: Nintendo Appears at Apple Conference to Announce Super Mario Run
@BiasedSonyFan Well then, it's a real shame many of those modern gamers are enjoying lesser quality games and will never know how good gaming can actually get. If all they're playing is mobile stuff and some of the less than stellar games Nintendo's been throwing out of late, like Star Fox Zero, they've never enjoyed the best that gaming has to offer, and certainly not the best Nintendo has to offer. That's like them eating a chocolate dipped in mud and thinking they know how amazing chocolate is. They don't know how truly amazing chocolate is and can be, and I feel bad for them if that's the case—no one should miss out on tasting truly amazing chocolate. No one should miss out on playing games that truly represent the best gaming has to offer—if only they knew, if only they knew—and they're not gonna experience the best of the best playing Super Mario Run on iOS, which is genuinely and deeply personally really sad to me. Because, playing a game like Super Mario Run will never change anyone's life or inspire them to one day want to make their own videogames, or at least I very much doubt it will, and the right/best videogames absolutely have the power to do that. It's so sad to me that so many modern casual gamers will never understand this or feel it deep in their hearts like I absolutely do.
Re: Nintendo Appears at Apple Conference to Announce Super Mario Run
@AhabSpampurse On mobiles you're never going to get a "real" Mario game because the touch-screen controls just aren't suited to it. Sure, you could probably get a slightly more complex Mario game than this but it's about what I expected to be honest, which is low effort and likely high financial reward.
Re: Nintendo Appears at Apple Conference to Announce Super Mario Run
Well, it makes sense. Looks like a pretty barebones effort, even the background looks totally flat in the short demo footage I watched for example, but hopefully it should be decent enough fun for a few minutes at a time.
Re: Grand Prix Rock 'N Racing Gets Close to the Finish Line on Wii U
@samuelvictor Yeah, after all the comments I'll not jump the gun too much.
Re: Grand Prix Rock 'N Racing Gets Close to the Finish Line on Wii U
@TerrapinJess Yeah, I think what many modern gamers have forgotten is how much fun certain types of older games can be. They've become so obsessed with games being all realistic and simulationy that they don't even realise they're often nowhere near as much pure fun as just playing a more arcadey game. I mean, Sega Rally Championship was a joy to play; not that it was the same kind of top-down racer as this, but I'm just making a point about sometimes the more simple and arcadey games really can be a whole load of pure fun.
Re: Grand Prix Rock 'N Racing Gets Close to the Finish Line on Wii U
I actually like the look of this. I like the particular zoomed out view here (gives plenty view of the track ahead, which is really important in these top-down racers), and the controls/gameplay look solid/smooth too in the footage.
Re: Pokémon GO's Success Has Convinced Sony To Perform About-Face On Mobile Gaming
@aaronsullivan Yeah, ultimately, Nintendo's plan of using mobile to simply sell more of its own dedicated hardware and games seems to be working pretty much perfectly. So kudos to Nintendo for that at least.
Re: Pokémon GO's Success Has Convinced Sony To Perform About-Face On Mobile Gaming
@aaronsullivan Exactly.
Re: ESL Go4Splatoon Tournament Winners Will Get A Nintendo NX Console
So bizarre to offer this as a prize when no one actually knows what NX is.
I hope they're happy with their prize.
Re: Interview: Will Dubé on Mythology, Art and Big Bosses in Jotun: Valhalla Edition
Yeah, it looks pretty cool.
Re: Niantic Already Working On New Apps As Pokémon GO Passes The $440 Million Mark
Obviously.
Re: Talking Point: What Approach Should Nintendo Take With Its NX Reveal?
@ThanosReXXX Then hear, hear!
Re: Talking Point: What Approach Should Nintendo Take With Its NX Reveal?
@rjejr I don't hate it . . . but boy do I wish they'd just frikin' show it. lol
Re: Talking Point: What Approach Should Nintendo Take With Its NX Reveal?
@rjejr Yeah, I agree. I think Nintendo needs this thing to run smooth as butter. But these lives shows do carry a sense of importance and grandiose with them, which the NDs really don't in my opinion, and that's something that would be great for NX. So, it's a tough choice. Christ, just do ALL OF THEM!
Re: Talking Point: What Approach Should Nintendo Take With Its NX Reveal?
@rjejr Seeing Space World return would be awesome.
Re: The Xbox One Might Be Getting A NES Emulator
What was the site maintenance or whatever that annoyingly stopped Nintendo Life working for half of the day and totally interrupted the flow of this conversation?
Re: The Xbox One Might Be Getting A NES Emulator
"The issue arises when it comes to actually playing anything on the app - for that, you need ROM files and these are naturally covered by copyright."
Not if it's original fan-made games that simply run on these emulators, of which there are actually quite a few.
As long as this App isn't breaking any laws and it's not supplying any Nintendo's ROM files directly, I think it would be extremely dodgy of Microsoft to start dictating that stuff like this isn't allowed on the store when it's legally and technically not breaking any rules whatsoever. That would be very much about these corporations serving their own best interests collectively at the corrosion of the laws that are supposed to be there to protect creative works/projects like this. It's not Microsoft's job or legal responsibility to pre-determine how such things may or may not be abused and pre-emptively strike them down before a single copyright crime has ever even been committed. If any copyright issues should arise then it can and should deal with them when they do. That's how the law should work to serve the best interests of everyone and not just the corporate agenda.
This also goes to why Tim Sweeney is worried about Microsoft's Windows 10 environment becoming more "unified" and becoming a more and more closed system and walled garden:
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/04/microsoft-monopolise-pc-games-development-epic-games-gears-of-war
http://venturebeat.com/2016/05/06/epic-games-ceo-tim-sweeney-still-opposes-microsofts-universal-windows-platform/
Re: Lost Nintendo 64 Racer Rev Limit Rolls Out Of The Garage
It's a shame they never saw fit to finish this because what's there is a very solid foundation for a potentially great little racer.
Re: Wall Street Journal Reports That Nintendo NX Will Indeed Use Flash-Based Game Cards
@ThanosReXXX Well, I think you'll at least get the handheld part. I'm not so sure about the home console part personally. But, you have your sources and if you really trust them then you might just get what you want.
Re: Wall Street Journal Reports That Nintendo NX Will Indeed Use Flash-Based Game Cards
@ThanosReXXX lol
Good for you.
Re: Wall Street Journal Reports That Nintendo NX Will Indeed Use Flash-Based Game Cards
@ThanosReXXX Well, yeah, I'm absolutely speculating, just as much as everyone else, and I'm ultimately just as clueless as everyone else as to what the hell Nintendo is doing with NX beyond some rumours.
So, were/are you disappointed with the 3DS? I consider that an all round pretty great handheld at this point, as was true with basically every other previous Nintendo handheld too, and I'm excited for Nintendo's next handheld almost by default as a result. Nintendo really hasn't given me any strong reason to doubt it's ability to deliver another great handheld going forward.
Ignoring what you would like NX to be for a second, is there a reason you would be disappointed if Nintendo's next handheld were as powerful as a Wii U+, let you play it through the TV when at home, allowed you to play all its previous console's games (both handheld and home console) with controls that feel basically perfect for each of those platforms, would see some of the most robust first party support to date, and was pretty much guaranteed to sell enough units to see strong third party support too?
Right now, and based on the rumours, that is NX to me.
Re: Talking Point: What Approach Should Nintendo Take With Its NX Reveal?
@rjejr Or are we. . . .
Re: Wall Street Journal Reports That Nintendo NX Will Indeed Use Flash-Based Game Cards
@ThanosReXXX It's not actually funny; it just is what it is. lol
Re: Wall Street Journal Reports That Nintendo NX Will Indeed Use Flash-Based Game Cards
@ThanosReXXX Well, funnily enough, the rumours have said that Nintendo is going to focus on the notion of the NX being about "gaming on the go" and "taking your games with you".
If this had been called Nintendo's next handheld from the get-go, rather than it being left ambiguous and everyone assuming it's a new dedicated home console, we wouldn't be having this conversation; you'd be hyped out your nut for it, as would all of us.
All Nintendo has to do is bring the thinking back around to it basically being the next great handheld system, which you can additionally play on your TV—have an Ad showing kids playing it on the bus and in the park and then when they get home they plug it into their TV and continue playing from there—problem solved.
Re: Wall Street Journal Reports That Nintendo NX Will Indeed Use Flash-Based Game Cards
@ThanosReXXX The Wii U functionality would just be one function of the system, just as the Wii is a function of the Wii U but it's not a Wii. It's just as much a DS/3DS or Wii as it is a Wii U.
All Nintendo has to do is market it as its next-gen handheld, the most powerful handheld ever created (which can also play on your TV), and the problem of it being perceived as a Wii U is basically eliminated.
Re: Wall Street Journal Reports That Nintendo NX Will Indeed Use Flash-Based Game Cards
@ThanosReXXX Well, that's why it's not solely a Wii U with its most obvious issues addressed and decent sales numbers; that alone wouldn't be enough anymore. It's clearly far, far more than that. And, again, it's not a weak and underpowered home console; it's the most powerful handheld console of all time.
A handheld that also functions as a home console and that also allows you to play every single game from each and every one of the lineages of those Nintendo platforms (handheld and home console), in a way that actually controls basically perfectly with each and every legacy platform, is a step away from an underpowered home console that has a touch screen gimmick and requires a bunch of separate peripherals just to play some of the legacy games. And that's just the hardware; no one's talked about the software or firmware yet—just imagine if Nintendo did something like the creation suite I mentioned. Also, being something new and different obviously doesn't mean it can't also contain many familiar elements too.
Re: Wall Street Journal Reports That Nintendo NX Will Indeed Use Flash-Based Game Cards
@ThanosReXXX I know you are, and I know you're not. lol
If the rumours are true you'll get a home console that is basically the Wii U all over again in terms of power (just a little bit more powerful and with a few necessary tweaks/fixes here and there), but it will also be a Wii U that you can actually use as a proper Nintendo handheld and will likely see the kinds of sales numbers and third party support that Nintendo's handhelds usually see. So, it's basically the Wii U we all wanted in the first place (at least the Wii U I wanted), combined with the next-gen Nintendo handheld we could only dream of until now.
I think you will get excited . . . once you finally get it properly.
Re: Wall Street Journal Reports That Nintendo NX Will Indeed Use Flash-Based Game Cards
@ThanosReXXX Those detachable controllers are mostly just so it supports Wii games out the box, as I see it. It's basically Nintendo's slightly better solution to making a single console that happens to be able to play all of Nintendo's legacy games than my own solution, because I never managed to come up with a design that actually also included the Wiimotes. But, it's primary function is not being a Wii; it's being and awesome hybrid system that's a truly stunning handheld and a pretty great little home console too (basically a Wii U+, but this time surely with better sales and better support).
If this hybrid NX sells what I imagine such a system would sell you will get most of those games. Likely, they won't be as graphically impressive as the other home consoles, but I think with such a hybrid system that becomes mostly irrelevant.
I think sacrificing raw power on the home console end is the choice that has to be made, because no one is buying Nintendo home consoles anymore anyway, and the people that are are clearly fine with underpowered hardware, which the NX, as a home console, will continue that trend just fine and dandy.
Re: Wall Street Journal Reports That Nintendo NX Will Indeed Use Flash-Based Game Cards
@ThanosReXXX Again, that's only an issue if you think of the NX as being basically a home console that's competing directly with Sony's and Microsoft's home consoles, which, if it's a hybrid and primarily handheld as rumoured, it is not. As a handheld, getting a mobile port of Fifa 17 is not a negative; just like it wouldn't be a negative to 3DS owners to get a slightly less graphically intensive 3DS version of Fifa 17, and just as it wouldn't be a negative to see a slightly less graphically intensive version of Fifa 17 on Apple TV. The thing to keep repeating here is that NX is not a next-gen home console intended to directly compete with other next-gen home consoles graphically, at least as it's rumoured, it's the most powerful handheld ever created that can, as a total bonus, also play its games on your TV in a way that isn't just a total clunky gimmick. It is primarily a handheld but it does also function basically as a perfect Wii U when played at home, for all intents and purposes, and a Wii (with "Wimmotes" included), and a NES, SNES, N64, GC, possibly many other retro consoles . . . and maybe even a tablet too. And, it allows you to enjoy both handheld and home console gaming at a fraction of the prices of what two separate new handheld and home console systems would cost. That's all IF the NX is this rumoured hybrid but primarily handheld console with detachable "Wiimotes" and all the other stuff.
Re: Wall Street Journal Reports That Nintendo NX Will Indeed Use Flash-Based Game Cards
@ThanosReXXX You're right about the Wii; a lot of crap came to that system from third parties. We'd just have to hope that since this hybrid NX would not be primarily focused on a new type of control (even as versatile as it would be) that developers would see it's possible to simply put normal and popular games on there rather than mostly gimmicky casual junk.
Regarding Fifa 17 coming to NX: I personally don't think that says much about the power of the system. Fifa 17 is likely to come out on pretty much every platform in existence in one form or another, including even DS probably, so it could be anything on NX as far as I'm concerned. Yes, it probably will use Frostbite, but if NX is around the power of PS4 and Xbox One or just below, as rumoured, I'm pretty sure EA can make a decent version of the game for the system if it really wants to and it believes it will be financially worth it in the end.
Re: Talking Point: What Approach Should Nintendo Take With Its NX Reveal?
I dunno, just ******* reveal it already! lol
Re: Wall Street Journal Reports That Nintendo NX Will Indeed Use Flash-Based Game Cards
@ThanosReXXX I think it's irrelevant that this game or that game wouldn't work on the system and probably wouldn't be down-ported; my whole point is looking at it in the same way the likes of Xbox 360 and PS3 saw down-ports of loads of current-gen games just because devs thought it made sense to do so (not all games but many games). I'm simply saying it would probably make similar sense with this rumoured hybrid NX, that's at a power level slightly more than a Wii U, to down-port a whole bunch of current-gen games, especially as the machine is supposed to support Unreal Engine 4 (which has down-porting, or downscaling, basically built into it). If the NX sells as many units as I imagine it could then I can't see any good reason why the big devs wouldn't want to support it with a bunch of down-ports, thinking of it primarily as Nintendo's latest cutting-edge handheld rather than an underpowered home console (which is where the Wii U failed, both in terms of not selling anywhere near enough units in year one and being an underpowered and under-featured home console).
PS. That list of rumoured titles means absolutely nothing to me; it could have been made up by a woman on the street for all I know. I certainly wouldn't use it to discuss what may or may not be the case with NX. I've seen a thousand such lists in my time, but I'll only believe whatever games are coming to NX when I see them officially announced.
Re: Wall Street Journal Reports That Nintendo NX Will Indeed Use Flash-Based Game Cards
@ThanosReXXX But they were for a long time, and I expect the same would be true of a brand new handheld with slightly more power than a Wii U. I expect a hybrid NX like this would get a whole lot of PS4 and Xbox One games down-ported to it (and both those systems are going to see new games for quite some time), especially if it's predicted to sell anywhere near as many units as any of Nintendo's previous handhelds (and I see no reason why it wouldn't). The Wii U basically had the same idea in the home console space but failed because it sold utterly crap. I really don't think Nintendo's brand new handheld needs to worry about that, however, particularly if it's also capable of being used as a home console too.
Re: Wall Street Journal Reports That Nintendo NX Will Indeed Use Flash-Based Game Cards
@ThanosReXXX I only tried to nullify the importance of Nintendo's current home console users (and their monetary equivalent) in terms of the loss of them not being a real "loss" as I see it, because I expect most current Wii U owners who are waiting for a new Nintendo console would simply get the hybrid NX, especially seeing as the majority of them are clearly hardcore Nintendo fans and the NX would be their only option of a new Nintendo console at that point. And, I believe NX by design would be a more attractive value proposition to more people than once again going with a separate handheld and home console model, so my predicted overall increased total sales (more than 3DS and Wii U combined) by being a hybrid system negates the loss of sales of the dedicated home console part of the business, and it also just makes everything easier for everyone involved too.
But, you are correct, it does and would take a lot to get it right—which is true whatever Nintendo decides to do—and it's Nintendo's job to make sure it gets it right.
Re: Pokémon GO's Success Has Convinced Sony To Perform About-Face On Mobile Gaming
@aaronsullivan Yeah, that's possible too. But I was just meaning it was obviously heavily invested in mobile long before Pokemon Go came along (primarily with hardware), whether it was failing or not, and Pokemon Go is probably what convinced it simply to dive deeper into the dedicated mobile games aspect. But, I expect it would have eventually dipped its toes in those water regardless; I think Pokemon Go just acted as a [business] game changer for the company by making it a sure thing and an immediate thing. Basically, I'm just trying to say that this isn't a case of Sony just straight copying some genius move by Nintendo that Sony had hitherto never even considered or whatever, which is basically what a lot of people are going to now claim; it was clear Sony saw the future in mobile already (long before Nintendo even), and the success of Pokemon Go just cemented its original position that it was definitely worth pursuing, hard, and now. Or something like that.
Re: Wall Street Journal Reports That Nintendo NX Will Indeed Use Flash-Based Game Cards
@ThanosReXXX "Now, just for the sake of the argument, let's suppose that all the third parties that were interviewed and said they were positive and/or even enthusiastic about NX were actually completely honest, then how the heck would you see most of these kinds of games listed coming to a handheld or a "connect to TV" device that is considerably weaker than the other two current gen consoles?"
In much the same way I see a whole bunch of current-gen games coming to the likes of Xbox 360 and PS3 already . . . because developers actually see value in supporting those systems even though they're last-gen tech.
And, you seem to be obsessed with the idea that Nintendo will ultimately lose consumers and lose money if it doesn't make a dedicated home console as well as a handheld going forward; like the loss of the 13 million Wii U owners means the overall sales numbers can't possibly go up higher than they are now in general. But, let's just imagine if Wii never existed at all . . . the DS still ultimately sold more consoles than 3DS and Wii U combined thus far; and I'm predicting a hybrid NX would sell more like the DS plus a little bit of the Wii than the DS plus the Wii U. I'm trying to say that I think such a hybrid portable is setting itself up to be Nintendo's most successful handheld of all time, by virtue of being its best handheld ever PLUS basically a home console too. So, where you see a loss, I see a gain. I guess it's all about how we come at it.
I genuinely believe a hybrid NX, if handled properly, has the potential to be the biggest selling console of all time (handheld and home console)—again, IF it's handled right. And in that scenario it's basically irrelevant that it's a single console rather than a separate handheld and home console; in fact, it just makes things a whole lot simpler and more streamlined for both Nintendo and the consumer.
Re: Pokémon GO's Success Has Convinced Sony To Perform About-Face On Mobile Gaming
I fully believe Sony was already way down this path long before Pokemon Go, but I also have no doubt Pokemon Go has indeed been a game changer in many ways across the industry and has convinced Sony more than ever that mobile is to be taken seriously.
Re: Wall Street Journal Reports That Nintendo NX Will Indeed Use Flash-Based Game Cards
@ThanosReXXX I'll be honest and say that I don't really think home console gamers are entirely relevant to Nintendo anymore if it isn't going to properly compete with Sony and Microsoft in terms of graphical power and even entertainment/multi-media functionality with a new home console, and I really don't think it is. Other than a handful of the most loyal fans, no one is buying that new but still underpowered and under-featured Nintendo home console. That's why I personally don't think it's a major loss basically merging the home console aspect of its business into a hybrid portable device. And your mate might not have historically been interested in Nintendo's handhelds but I'd wager a Nintendo hybrid handheld like the NX, as I see it, would be a lot more interesting to him than any typical handheld, and especially if it is Nintendo's only console going forward (one that basically plays every single handheld and home console game it's ever made).
Personally, I don't see Nintendo losing consumers with this hybrid idea; I see it combining its handheld and home console consumers into one for the most part, and ultimately selling more units than both the 3DS and Wii U have so far combined to date. And, I expect any gamers who are really only interested in home consoles, most of whom are probably in Sony and Microsoft's camps now anyway, wouldn't be interested in a new Nintendo home console that once again was underpowered and lacked third party support anyway, which, if Nintendo continued down the same old separate handheld and home console path, it almost certainly would be. So, NX not being a hybrid isn't going to net Nintendo those consumers anymore than Wii U did.
So, again—and this is just me imagining Nintendo has went with the hybrid solution for NX—I personally don't see any genuine negatives to going down that path at this point in time. All I can see is ways it fixes Nintendo's currently problems, merging all the convoluted control solutions and whatever else into one single and neat device, and finally pulling itself out of Microsoft's and Sony's shadows in the home console space, where it's not really successfully competing anyway, while also doing its own thing in a way that I believe most gamers will ultimately find genuinely compelling in one way or another. I firmly believe that most home console gamers are getting the new PlayStation and Xbox consoles regardless of what Nintendo does with NX at this point. I firmly believe most handheld gamers are getting whatever Nintendo's next handheld is regardless of what Microsoft of Sony do in this space. The small handful of millions who were going to buy Nintendo's next home console were likely dedicated fans anyway, and I expect the vast majority of them would buy NX if it's a device that still allows them to play it at home on the TV while also being a portable too. I also think quite a few people who are getting an Xbox or PlayStation by default would consider a hybrid NX as a portable companion console to those systems too. By going down the hybrid route, NX answers all those considerations as far as I'm concerned.
Outside of people simply saying that it would make them unhappy if NX was only a hybrid device, before they truly understand just what such a hybrid system would actually mean, I really don't see the downsides of where Nintendo or gamers lose in any meaningful way here by making NX a hybrid.
I mean, in this theoretical scenario, is your friend seriously going to pass up a new Nintendo console (the only new Nintendo console available) that lets him play games from every single one of its handheld and home consoles ever made, both at home and on the go, that's the most powerful handheld ever built, and a pretty decent home console too (certainly at least the most powerful Nintendo home console ever, even if it's less powerful than the competition, which has been the case with Nintendo's home consoles for sometime now anyway), which will see some of the best first party support in the history of company now that the two divisions are merged and basically developing for a single system, reduces all the needless extra peripherals and attachments required to play various games, will almost certainly sell multiple tens of millions of units which basically ensures strong third party support (just like every previous Nintendo handheld), will likely half the current total cost of buying separate Nintendo handhelds and home consoles (if you want all that Nintendo has to offer) . . .
I'd call him both not a real Nintendo fan and kinda mental if he actually passed that up. The only people I'd expect to pass that up are hardcore and blindly loyal Microsoft and Sony fanboys, and they simply weren't buying Nintendo's new system whatever it did.
Re: Wall Street Journal Reports That Nintendo NX Will Indeed Use Flash-Based Game Cards
@ThanosReXXX I've no idea why you think Nintendo releasing its most powerful handheld ever, which also additionally happens to allow play on your TV at home too, would spell doom for third party support once again. I certainly haven't seen this major lack of third party support on any of Nintendo's previous handheld consoles, and this, by my measure, would be the most exciting and potentially lucrative handheld concept Nintendo has ever created. I don't see any good reason, as of yet, why third parties would suddenly choose not to support this new handheld from Nintendo, when they should be well aware that Nintendo's handhelds normally sell in multiple the tens of millions of units—that's a lot of potential consumers—which is ultimately all they really care about at the end of the day.
Again, I think the confusion here is that you think I'm talking about this NX hybrid idea as being Nintendo's next home console or something, a device which would naturally be competing against the likes of PS4 and Xbox One, but I'm clearly not. My whole take is that a "hybrid" NX—a handheld, which just happens to output to TV too—is ultimately designed to basically avoid that home console war for the most part, which is precisely what I think Nintendo needs to do here, because it's simply not going to win or even compete in the ongoing home console wars if it just keeps doing basically the same thing it's been doing in that space for a while now, imo.
Re: Wall Street Journal Reports That Nintendo NX Will Indeed Use Flash-Based Game Cards
@ThanosReXXX I don't think this handheld would stack up against the other home consoles in terms of graphics, and I don't think it would need to; it would still be the most powerful handheld ever created, and the most powerful Nintendo home console to date when running through your TV. If it were trying to be a home console then it would obviously have problems again right out the gate by being less powerful than PlayStation and Xbox, but I think the point is in trying to circumvent the need to even make that comparison—which Nintendo clearly is going to lose anyway because it's just not going to make a home console that competes on a graphics level anymore—much like no one really compares iPhone or Apple TV to home consoles.
I think a lot of you guys struggle to separate the idea of a home console from the idea of a portable. Taken as a portable alone, it would be crazy to not see how this basically isn't the best handheld Nintendo has ever created; so the notion it wouldn't sell tens of millions seems a bit daft to me, seeing as all the historical evidence of Nintendo's handheld success says otherwise. And, this would really just be its best handheld ever, which also happens to work as a home console TOO. There basically is no real home console to compare directly to Microsoft's and Sony's machines anymore, and that's the angle that I think allows this design to play to its strengths rather than its kind of non-weaknesses.
Sony any Microsoft would be left battling for the dedicated home console/entertainment centre space, and Nintendo goes off and totally dominates the handheld space once again plus captures at least the same number of sales in the "home console" space as Wii U just by virtue of the fact the thing can be played on a TV anyway. It's win win for Nintendo as far as I'm concerned. But, I think some people are stuck in the mindset of Nintendo continuing to compete in the same red ocean it's slowly but surely losing to the competition, and that's a bigger mistake than trying to carve out a slightly different path this time around imo, because I really don't see anything Nintendo can realistically do anymore to not lose the same old home console war once again—and, certainly, not a single idea I've seen in here about it about it releasing basically yet another typical home console has me believing differently, so why the hell would any developers or publishers believe any differently either.
So, the point is that this hybrid handheld with home console capability actually is a game-changer to a large degree, for Nintendo at least, as its Nintendo's shot at genuinely breaking away from the home console battle that it's almost certainly not going to win anymore, maybe not even compete anymore, while focussing its strengths in an area its historically dominated—and, as of yet, I really don't see much of a negative to that if it does this hybrid NX idea right.
But, you have your sources and you believe what they're telling you, and I simply believe a site like IGN when it tells me its confirmed the hybrid NX more than I believe any single other source I've read thus far, be that Eurogamer, Nintendo Life, you, whomever. I guess we'll all know soon enough which of these sources is more in the loop, and maybe from it we can learn some lessons, or not. . . .
And, if we're just broadly talking about Nintendo thinking it needs to protect it's ideas from the likes of Sony and Microsoft:
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-ceo-says-pokemon-go-is-a-game-changer-talks-c/1100-6443302/
http://gonintendo.com/stories/264475-sony-making-bigger-push-into-mobile-cites-pokemon-go-s-success
http://www.polygon.com/2016/9/4/12792548/sony-ceo-citing-pokemon-go-says-theyre-aggressively-pushing-into
One could claim that Nintendo would consider that as Sony basically seeing how Nintendo decided to get into mobile gaming, and having such "game-changing" success with Pokemon Go, decided to copy it; and maybe it thinks of that as being something it wishes it could have protected from being copied by the competition. Maybe it thinks even things like this might be underlying ideas and ideals that are evident if you see the full NX picture, and maybe it wants to keep that full picture hidden from the competition for a long as possible. Just throwing out thoughts here. The point is that Nintendo clearly thinks something about NX needs to be protected from the competition, and I don't seen any reason whatsoever why the hybrid NX concept we've seen floating around couldn't be considered as containing multiple things/ideas/concepts that Nintendo might consider important enough to want to protect, be it in hardware, software, or services (probably all three).
Re: Wall Street Journal Reports That Nintendo NX Will Indeed Use Flash-Based Game Cards
@ThanosReXXX "I do have to wonder though, why you seem to think (even besides the whole EuroGamer rumor) that NX being a handheld is the best thing logically, or is that just a personal wish you have?"
Both, basically. And, to be clear, a handheld that also functions as a home console (just without the physical console-under-the-TV part).
"Just ask yourself this: what in the name of whoever is so very special and secret about the things that the rumor mentions, that Nintendo would be so protective of it out of fear that the competition would steal ideas from it?"
You can find the answer to that question in the comment I made on PlayerEssence's video (I'm iNCEPTIONAL):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaDNNYvwKGs&lc=z12qfpxx2ya2vfc21222u5uyosmodfsw204
Re: Talking Point: The 2017 Role of the 3DS Was Established in its Nintendo Direct
Yeah, the upcoming lineup for 3DS is actually pretty good, and overall it's turned into a really compelling system. It's probably due for another price drop soon though, I'd suggest.
And, as I've said before, if Nintendo could really sort out that Virtual Console and get Game Boy, Game Boy Color, Game Boy Advance, DS, NES, SNES, and even Virtual Boy titles, as well as some non-Nintendo systems like Master System, Game Gear, Genesis, PC-Engine, etc., on there, basically as many retro titles from as many retro consoles as possible (and certainly all of Nintendo's handheld and home consoles until the SNES/DS at least), the 3DS really could turn into one of the most all-round satisfying Nintendo consoles ever.
Re: Wall Street Journal Reports That Nintendo NX Will Indeed Use Flash-Based Game Cards
Hey, I've just had a thought regarding my own idea for NX.
http://www.inceptional.com/2015/06/26/heres-the-gist-of-my-idea-for-nintendos-nx/
As much as I'd love all the specs I've suggested to be true, it doesn't even need to have some of them to still be basically the exact same machine: I say 1080p, but the reality is that the Wii U is 1080p yet you can still see and play the games perfectly well on the much lower resolution GamePad screen, so a 720p screen (as is rumoured) would be totally fine for my idea too (even emulating the two DS/3DS screens on that single screen still works at that resolution). And this is actually true of the stereoscopic element too: If that's removed you can still play all the 3DS and even Virtual Boy games on a simple 2D screen, just as you can on the 2DS right now.
So, the point is that even though I think my idea is awesome, it can in fact be cut down slightly to maybe make it a bit more realistic in terms of the cost of the hardware, and it would still be basically the same system I'm talking about.
This makes me even more hyped for the real NX as it's rumoured to be, this hybrid console, because now in my mind it can be totally in line with my own idea with only the detachable controllers really being the main thing I didn't have.