I empathise with the development team. You can see they're devastated, especially with all their recent effort. Other than that, Ubisoft still seems to remain rather arrogant about the situation. This statement rectifies nor addresses nothing, and we could've gone without it.
Honestly, a multi-platform release was ultimately inevitable. This alone is a somewhat trivial matter to fuss over.
However, delaying it for seven more months three weeks from its initial release date? Furthermore, delaying it to around the start of Q4? Around that season, we know we'll be getting GTA V, Madden, Pokémon, Wind Waker HD etc., two new consoles to be hyped about and, most importantly, not forgetting that it's now releasing post-E3?
And they say they did this so they could reach a wider audience. Talk about a shot in the foot.
Despite being great games, both Darksiders I and II didn't sell that well, which might explain why nobody seems keen to shell out on Vigil. Sad really.
Anyway, it'd be interesting to see this happen. With the fruitful partnership between Nintendo and Platinum, imagine if Darksiders became another exclusive for Nintendo. I say fat chance, though.
I hear this franchise bears some similarities to Zelda though, so if Darksiders becomes Platinum's own independent franchise, I'd be worried to see whether or not they'd be able to mold a viable plot for the next game. (I hearsay stories aren't exactly Platinum's strong point.)
I hear that this game was originally in development for the Wii before being upscaled to debut on the Wii U. It has a strong possibility of being true IMO, but rumours.
There's not a snowball's chance in the fires of hell that that'll shimmy its way into the mainstream market. This industry needs to stop being lazy and adapt to mobile gaming in its current form - it has much more potential for ingenuity as it is.
@Samholy: Maybe you missed the part where this was a third-party game. Whether or not it comes to the West has next to nothing to do with Nintendo; it's Square Enix's decision. Bloody hell.
I honestly don't see how this title is misleading, but that may be attributed to the fact that I'm used to ambiguity.
OT: I would've guessed as much for THQ anyway. They're in a dire financial crisis, and now is not the most certain time to make huge investments in the Wii U. Being a new console, there's no guarantee that it'll pay off as well as would be required to be considered a financial success.
However, this attitude will almost certainly change not too far down the line, when the Wii U has been adequately... familiarised.
I'm not in business, but I can understand the concept of marketing enough to know that Nintendo would be undermining itself if it leaked all of its secrets now before a major gaming event like E3 in which the press raises awareness to potential consumers. That's not how they work anyway. When the time is ripe, then Nintendo will announce the next 3D Mario, Zelda, and others and reveal new information for previously-announced games.
When the competition starts revealing their new consoles, that's when you'll see Nintendo open up with the kind of information fans go crazy over; the kind of information that doesn't come out whenever fans feel like it. A lot of time and effort gets put into these big games. This impatient lust for games from fans does not line up with Nintendo's game-making philosophy.
Here, have a cream doughnut. You're my new favourite person.
@Rapadash6: First of all, I didn't say it was Nintendo's "openness to future software" that caused the Wii's dearth. I said it was their unpaced strategy. And secondly, I didn't say you in particular didn't like what the launch line-up offered - I was being indirect.
Look, Nintendo doesn't want the entire lifetime sales of the Wii U to occur now. They'll need sales in future, and that's that. If you don't feel it's a good investment, don't buy it. If you feel this promises are "blank promises", then don't buy it. Then be pleasantly surprised in 2013, and sustain Nintendo's profitability further over that season.
Not everybody needs to be interested in the Wii U all at once. They're doing reasonably well with their sales as it is (exceptionally well, actually), and all they need to do now is focus on maintaining the console's vitality over time. Spoiling all the surprises doesn't help that, so with all due respect, if you don't like it, lump it.
@Rapadash6: They need to have their work cut out for them at E3, otherwise we'll see a repetition of the Wii's mid-life dearth. The longevity of a console depends on how well it manages to build a sustainable library that extends over a long period of time. The very argument you just brought up is the reason both the Wii and GameCube endured a premature death. That is what is unacceptable.
The launch line-up is clearly only a stop-gap for what we have to come, and so far, it's fulfilling its purpose well. They're not going to blow all the announcements they will need to stay relevant during the coming season just because you don't like what they have right now. That's not how business works, and it never will be.
@Rapadash6: You have the entire first quarter of 2013 covered for the Wii U. There's nothing "unacceptable" about that, unless you're palpably insatiable.
@Chunky_Droid: No, this isn't really much about how my parents raised me. They raised me just like normal, overprotective parents. I'm not attempting to somewhat "boast" that I'm rebellious or anything of the sort either; I'm saying it's more of "how I raised myself". My parents never let me loose or raised me indiligently - they raised me absolutely fine, and this isn't really anything to do with parenting (for me). I let myself loose, as most children often do.
Sure, I turned out fine. But much of that can't be said for others, hence the extra precaution. This is a day and age where a few lock-ups here and there really do nothing to hinder kids away from doing what they're allegedly not supposed to or need to be protected from. It's really more of a feeling of curiosity than being rebellious (well again, for me). When the cat's away, the mice will play. We'll just hope to God that the mice don't run into a mouse-trap.
However, I shan't really say whether or not it's within Nintendo's rights to be exhibiting this sort of precaution themselves. I'll just say that parenting alone, however determined or strict, isn't as effective as it was ten years ago.
It's up to parents to decide what kids can download.
Let me use this here statement as an example.
Personally, I've always been the kind of underage person Nintendo warned you about. Ever since I can remember, I can and will find a way to bypass security, settings or precaution on any service, and I can and will be sneaky enough to download it discreetly. It's not because my family is careless either - very much the contrary. I'm just one who was raised in a household as watertight as Soviet Russia, and it had adverse effects on me.
Not all children are submissive enough to parental controls, settings and whatever else have you, and I'm a glaring example. My saving grace is that I've been twisted inside-out well enough to tolerate adult themes as though I'm watching The Moomins - but that's far from what can be said about most other children.
Remember we're talking digital purchases here, which are still in the vast minority (it really won't affect much of the mature gaming population) - and are much easier accessible to children. Children can't walk into a game store and buy a GTA game like they're taking a stroll down 5th Avenue; the manager would have them up and out before they'd even finished saying the game's title. However, you don't have this kind of monitoring with digital purchases - that's why you need all the padlocks, shutters, laser beams and other thingamabobs.
Right now, I'm not taking sides on this argument (though I can provide you with quite a few reasons why this whole calamity isn't as big a deal as people are making it out to be), but these are just the considerable facts from me.
@TourianTourist: The Wii U? Innovative? I believe the term you're looking for is intuitive. It's also currently the best approach for both Nintendo and developers right now for multiple reasons, given the flawed audacities of the Wii.
Nintendo shouldn't be aiming to "emulate" (read: copy) Xbox Live or PSN either way - that'd lead to the most abysmal failure for them. They should be aiming to create their own original service that can still be regarded as competitive towards Xbox Live and PSN, and still integrates and improves upon the standard requirements of an online gaming network (i.e. online play, digital purchases, account management etc.)
From what I've seen so far, I'd say they're doing an outstanding job for a start. I just hope Nintendo are starting as they mean to go on.
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Re: Activision's Bobby Kotick Is Disappointed With The Launch Of The Wii U
I don't see how this qualifies as "hating on the Wii U." It's a genuine concern.
Re: Ubisoft Confirms Rayman Legends Delay Isn't Down To Development Issues
I empathise with the development team. You can see they're devastated, especially with all their recent effort. Other than that, Ubisoft still seems to remain rather arrogant about the situation. This statement rectifies nor addresses nothing, and we could've gone without it.
Re: Developer Interview: Rebellion On Why Sniper Elite V2 Wii U Is The Definitive Version
This looks pretty interesting. The GamePad sounds to have been thoughtfully integrated, enhancing real-time combat and such.
Will be keeping an eye on this.
Re: Ubisoft: Nintendo Will Make "Necessary Changes" To Wii U
@Lopezdm: Obviously I wasn't referring to the Wii U line-up alone.
Re: Ubisoft: Nintendo Will Make "Necessary Changes" To Wii U
Honestly, a multi-platform release was ultimately inevitable. This alone is a somewhat trivial matter to fuss over.
However, delaying it for seven more months three weeks from its initial release date? Furthermore, delaying it to around the start of Q4? Around that season, we know we'll be getting GTA V, Madden, Pokémon, Wind Waker HD etc., two new consoles to be hyped about and, most importantly, not forgetting that it's now releasing post-E3?
And they say they did this so they could reach a wider audience. Talk about a shot in the foot.
Re: GPU Images Reveal Wii U Graphical Power
Let the familiar developers display what the Wii U is capable of.
Mere figures and values thrown about in a dodgy speculation mean next to nothing.
Re: This Gruesome Plague-Spreading Strategy Title Could Be Infecting The Wii U
The art-style is intriguing, that's one thing I'll say.
Re: Nintendo Hints At An Additional Platform In The Future
I call overthinking.
Re: Review: Ikachan (3DS eShop)
Oh, Nicalis.
Re: Ever Wondered What Downton Abbey Would Be Like As A SNES Game?
This is absolutely mental.
Re: Rumour: New Sonic Title Dashing To Wii U And 3DS
There's too much information here to not think of this as a likely rumour.
Re: Platinum Games Is Interested In Acquiring The Darksiders Franchise
Despite being great games, both Darksiders I and II didn't sell that well, which might explain why nobody seems keen to shell out on Vigil. Sad really.
Anyway, it'd be interesting to see this happen. With the fruitful partnership between Nintendo and Platinum, imagine if Darksiders became another exclusive for Nintendo. I say fat chance, though.
I hear this franchise bears some similarities to Zelda though, so if Darksiders becomes Platinum's own independent franchise, I'd be worried to see whether or not they'd be able to mold a viable plot for the next game. (I hearsay stories aren't exactly Platinum's strong point.)
Re: Take a Pikmin's Eye View with Pikmin 3's Camera Mode
Literally this announcement alone has peaked my interest in this game.
Re: Nintendo Unveils The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker HD for Wii U
Mother of Hyrule.
Re: Rumour: Today's Nintendo Direct To Focus On Wii U Virtual Console
Super Mario Sunshine, Kirby Air Ride, Eternal Darkness and Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door. Now.
Re: Wii U Direct Scheduled For Tomorrow
The Golden Rule of Expectation: No Zelda. No Metroid. No 3D Mario. No disappointments.
Re: Team Ninja: Wii U Is "Definitely Next Generation"
@Emaan basically wrote my comment for me.
Re: New Super Mario Bros. U's High-Definition Credentials Tested
I hear that this game was originally in development for the Wii before being upscaled to debut on the Wii U. It has a strong possibility of being true IMO, but rumours.
Re: Nvidia Unveils the Daunting Project Shield
There's not a snowball's chance in the fires of hell that that'll shimmy its way into the mainstream market. This industry needs to stop being lazy and adapt to mobile gaming in its current form - it has much more potential for ingenuity as it is.
Re: Game Freak: The Pokémon World Will Be Evolving In 2013
Expectations: An open-world 3D Pokémon MMO heading to the Wii U.
Reality: "No, folks, you have not actually caught them all."
Re: The Nintendo 64 Kids Recall The Christmas When Santa Knocked It Out Of The Park
Geonjaha wrote:
I lol'd.
Re: Wii U GamePad Lookalike On the Way
No. This is China. Clearly, the Wii U GamePad is the imposter here.
Re: Square Enix Working On 3DS Game Featuring Transforming Cars
@Samholy: Maybe you missed the part where this was a third-party game. Whether or not it comes to the West has next to nothing to do with Nintendo; it's Square Enix's decision. Bloody hell.
Re: ZombiU Producer "Disappointed" By Early Reviews
Those reviews weren't sabotage. Most were rushed. Plain and simple.
Re: Japanese 3DS Lifetime Sales Overtake PlayStation 3
PinkSpider wrote:
Can we just not, please? Just... please, no.
Re: System Faults Didn't Stop THQ From Bringing Metro: Last Light To Wii U
I honestly don't see how this title is misleading, but that may be attributed to the fact that I'm used to ambiguity.
OT: I would've guessed as much for THQ anyway. They're in a dire financial crisis, and now is not the most certain time to make huge investments in the Wii U. Being a new console, there's no guarantee that it'll pay off as well as would be required to be considered a financial success.
However, this attitude will almost certainly change not too far down the line, when the Wii U has been adequately... familiarised.
Re: Talking Point: Time to Adjust Nintendo Direct Expectations
DestinyMan wrote:
Here, have a cream doughnut. You're my new favourite person.
Re: Talking Point: Time to Adjust Nintendo Direct Expectations
@Rapadash6: First of all, I didn't say it was Nintendo's "openness to future software" that caused the Wii's dearth. I said it was their unpaced strategy. And secondly, I didn't say you in particular didn't like what the launch line-up offered - I was being indirect.
Look, Nintendo doesn't want the entire lifetime sales of the Wii U to occur now. They'll need sales in future, and that's that. If you don't feel it's a good investment, don't buy it. If you feel this promises are "blank promises", then don't buy it. Then be pleasantly surprised in 2013, and sustain Nintendo's profitability further over that season.
Not everybody needs to be interested in the Wii U all at once. They're doing reasonably well with their sales as it is (exceptionally well, actually), and all they need to do now is focus on maintaining the console's vitality over time. Spoiling all the surprises doesn't help that, so with all due respect, if you don't like it, lump it.
Re: Talking Point: Time to Adjust Nintendo Direct Expectations
@Rapadash6: They need to have their work cut out for them at E3, otherwise we'll see a repetition of the Wii's mid-life dearth. The longevity of a console depends on how well it manages to build a sustainable library that extends over a long period of time. The very argument you just brought up is the reason both the Wii and GameCube endured a premature death. That is what is unacceptable.
The launch line-up is clearly only a stop-gap for what we have to come, and so far, it's fulfilling its purpose well. They're not going to blow all the announcements they will need to stay relevant during the coming season just because you don't like what they have right now. That's not how business works, and it never will be.
Re: Talking Point: Time to Adjust Nintendo Direct Expectations
@Rapadash6: You have the entire first quarter of 2013 covered for the Wii U. There's nothing "unacceptable" about that, unless you're palpably insatiable.
Re: Wii U Is The "Greenest" HD Console
Clearly, Nintendo is the answer to global warming.
Re: Feature: We've Unboxed A Wii Mini So You Don't Have To
Portable console gaming?
Re: Petition Started To Get Dark Souls II On The Wii U
I honestly can't see this being ported either, as @CactusJackson said.
...Eh, I'll sign it either way.
Re: Capcom Announce Street Fighter X Mega Man
The article wrote:
Interested.
Re: Feature: Our Staff's Thoughts on Wii U - Part One
Looks like Miiverse has really hit it big.
Re: Talking Point: Time for Wii U to Treat Us Like Adults
@Chunky_Droid: No, this isn't really much about how my parents raised me. They raised me just like normal, overprotective parents. I'm not attempting to somewhat "boast" that I'm rebellious or anything of the sort either; I'm saying it's more of "how I raised myself". My parents never let me loose or raised me indiligently - they raised me absolutely fine, and this isn't really anything to do with parenting (for me). I let myself loose, as most children often do.
Sure, I turned out fine. But much of that can't be said for others, hence the extra precaution. This is a day and age where a few lock-ups here and there really do nothing to hinder kids away from doing what they're allegedly not supposed to or need to be protected from. It's really more of a feeling of curiosity than being rebellious (well again, for me). When the cat's away, the mice will play. We'll just hope to God that the mice don't run into a mouse-trap.
However, I shan't really say whether or not it's within Nintendo's rights to be exhibiting this sort of precaution themselves. I'll just say that parenting alone, however determined or strict, isn't as effective as it was ten years ago.
Re: Talking Point: Time for Wii U to Treat Us Like Adults
Chunky_Droid wrote:
Let me use this here statement as an example.
Personally, I've always been the kind of underage person Nintendo warned you about. Ever since I can remember, I can and will find a way to bypass security, settings or precaution on any service, and I can and will be sneaky enough to download it discreetly. It's not because my family is careless either - very much the contrary. I'm just one who was raised in a household as watertight as Soviet Russia, and it had adverse effects on me.
Not all children are submissive enough to parental controls, settings and whatever else have you, and I'm a glaring example. My saving grace is that I've been twisted inside-out well enough to tolerate adult themes as though I'm watching The Moomins - but that's far from what can be said about most other children.
Remember we're talking digital purchases here, which are still in the vast minority (it really won't affect much of the mature gaming population) - and are much easier accessible to children. Children can't walk into a game store and buy a GTA game like they're taking a stroll down 5th Avenue; the manager would have them up and out before they'd even finished saying the game's title. However, you don't have this kind of monitoring with digital purchases - that's why you need all the padlocks, shutters, laser beams and other thingamabobs.
Right now, I'm not taking sides on this argument (though I can provide you with quite a few reasons why this whole calamity isn't as big a deal as people are making it out to be), but these are just the considerable facts from me.
Re: Pachter: "I think Nintendo becomes completely irrelevant"
@TourianTourist: The Wii U? Innovative? I believe the term you're looking for is intuitive. It's also currently the best approach for both Nintendo and developers right now for multiple reasons, given the flawed audacities of the Wii.
Re: Little Inferno Developer Looking Into Enabling User-Created Content
That'd actually be a very fitting addition, from what I've been hearing about the game's impressions.
Re: Here's How PlayStation Boss Shuhei Yoshida Lovingly Trolled Nintendo
Report violation.
Re: How A Modified Wii Zapper Inspired The Wii U
Interesting to know about the 3DS.
Re: Pachter: "I think Nintendo becomes completely irrelevant"
"Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!"
Re: Nintendo Vs. Zombies: 28-Bits Later Mixes Metroid, Mario And ZombiU
This is beautiful.
Re: Panorama View And Google Maps Confirmed For Western Release
I like this. I really do.
Re: Nintendo Direct: Watch The European Presentation Live
Nobody remembers Fantasy Life?
Re: If Nintendo Ever Made A Mature Zelda, This Is What It Would Look Like
The Legend of Zelda: Skyrim Sword.
Re: Nintendo Has No Plans To Launch Wii Mini In The UK
Starting a prayer service for Canada.
Re: Hacker Claims To Have Deciphered Wii U CPU and GPU Speeds
And so the showdown will begin.
Re: Iwata: We Don't Want To Emulate Xbox Live and PSN
Nintendo shouldn't be aiming to "emulate" (read: copy) Xbox Live or PSN either way - that'd lead to the most abysmal failure for them. They should be aiming to create their own original service that can still be regarded as competitive towards Xbox Live and PSN, and still integrates and improves upon the standard requirements of an online gaming network (i.e. online play, digital purchases, account management etc.)
From what I've seen so far, I'd say they're doing an outstanding job for a start. I just hope Nintendo are starting as they mean to go on.
Re: Game Designer Says "Wii U Isn't Sure of Itself, and That's its Greatest Virtue"
@luminalace: That is effectively what he was saying.