I don't think they're doomed but they have plummeted downhill. The last Nintendo console I loved was the SNES (Heck it is my favourite system of all time). GameCube had some great games too though. But N64 and Wii were meh IMO. Wii U is looking grimmer with each and every day. I have no reason to turn it on.
I don't mean any disrespect to the big N but I don't think they're anywhere near as good as their 8 and 16 bit self.
@Glare And Gyarados and Charizard don't have Dragon in them. Your statement of it being 'fake' is invalid. While these have not been confirmed by Nintendo they should be treated as a rumour, not fact, but not totally dismissed as 'fake' either.
Iwata wasn't the best choice for President of Nintendo IMO... If it does sell consoles (which I doubt) they will fall back into the category that the Wii was placed in, 'casual'.
@IKAY No, say "no" to digital full stop. You're just encouraging publishers to skip physical copies all together. I've refused to purchase every digital game ever. It's hard but put your money where your mouth is.
@SMT4Protag SMT4 - Nope not in my region. Etrian Odyessy just got released a few days ago so haven't gotten around to picking it up. Too busy with Hatsune Miku Product Diva F Monster Hunter - Got it on my Wii U Mario 3D - Great game, finished it 100% when I got it. But it's just amazing, it's the same thing as every other one. Mario 7 - Didn't like it. Has nothing on the other handheld ones, Super Circuit and DS. Luigi's Mansion 2 - Yeah pretty good Soul Hackers - Once again not in my region Project X Zone and KH don't interest me. I like main series KH though on PS2. Mario and Luigi DT - Got it just haven't gotten around to playing it.
@SMT4Protag Yep. No amazing games like The World Ends With You, 3D remakes of FF3 and 4, Phoenix Wright 1-3 (I don't support digital distribution so haven't played the 3DS one), Metroid Prime, Advance Wars, Radiant Historia, Ouendan, the first time PAL regions got Chrono Trigger and other heap of A+ titles. My 3DS is a Animal Crossing and Fire Emblem machine. That's all it's good for. Most games that look like my kinda thing I can't have because they are not released in my region. And you know, region locking is such a consumer friendly thing and makes sense even more so when you put it on a handheld. As much as I love my NES, SNES and GB to DS, I want Nintendo to go software.
All I'm reading is the comments of many angry people. The man has a point. The gaming market as a whole is moving away from what it's been for the last few years very, very fast and Nintendo refuses to do anything amazing but gimmicky nonsense, now they will feel the burn. I don't want Nintendo's handhelds to go away but the 3DS is a huge step down from the mighty DS. Both for games and region locking. With that being said I'm looking forward to the day Nintendo pulls a Sega and goes software.
I love it how people think this man's opinion is invalid because of Atari. I don't think anyone here is smart nor old enough to truly understand how much good the 2600 did for the industry. Arguably without them there would be no video games in the western world. Show some respect. Watch the insults please, your points stand just fine without them — TBD
@Senario Sadly you're correct. I know what Nintendo will do, but it's the wrong thing to do. Reggie said Nintendo will go down before selling or developing their IPs to other companies. Sega quit when they knew they couldn't recover, Nintendo is going until they're dead.
@Relias GameCube had 3rd party support. It had heaps from Capcom and a tad from Square and Konami. 64 on the other hand had... nothing.
@Krzysztof When was Nintendo for hardcore audiences? NES and SNES. The only A+ Nintendo consoles. NES advertised as some family friendly easy-going system. But bam and hit us with some of the hardest and iconic games of all time. Wii just has crap like those horse games and what not.
I just don't see why they picked WW. It still looks fine due to the cell shading which was an excellent choice for a Zelda game. They should have redone MM in my opinion. The graphics have aged the worse.
@feline2 Absolutely not. Shipping bluray/dvd cases with a manual and disk is about 7-8 dollars. Considering games are $59 more here on average. And if the game wasn't released here if people really want it they will take on shipping fees. It will be cheaper than a game on our shores.
@feline2 My point exactly. Many niche publishers don't bring games down here. So if things were region free I can import. That's my whole point, you just summed up why we need region free systems.
@feline2 Now let me bring you back to reality. I live in Australia where the Recommended Retail price (RRP) is $119 for console games, and $69 for handheld. Consoles are also very expensive, the PS3 was $999 (lucky its region free though). On top of being screwed over from pricing we get a very limited selection. Our Nintendo systems have far less third party titles than the NTSC-U/C audience. We get no Atlus titles with some very few exceptions for instance. When we get something that can be considered slightly niche it will be in our retail stores for about a month then you will never see it again.
There isn't 1 advantage for the consumer when it comes to region locking. Not, ONE.
@feline2 Are you trolling? I can't tell if you're seriously brainwashed by corporal nonsense or are smart enough to tell that there isn't a single benefit from region locking and it's all anti consumer.
Let's be honest. Nintendo was the top dog with the NES and SNES. Sega and others couldn't compete. Nintendo had A+ first and third titles pouring out left, right and centre.
Then the N64 hit and Nintendo did everything they could to drive away 3rd party developers. Using non-standardized media formats, N64 cart, mini DVD and a Wii U disk. Wacky controllers which won't work with most games not made by Nintendo. Poor online support and sub-par system specs. Compare Nintendo to every generation Sony has been in; Sony trumped Nintendo every round for good reason. Sony used standard media formats; CD-Rs, DVDs and Bluray. A traditional control. PSN. And competitive system specs.
Nintendo is doomed and I'm glad. I've supported from the NES days and since the N64 they found more and more ways to screw up. They should do what Sega did and pull out of the hardware business and become a 3rd party dev.
This is absolute rubbish. If they want to limit the sales to certain countries due to cencorship they can, and legally by not officially publishing or giving out licences to publishers to distribute to certain countries. BUT that is the whole point of region freeing, to give people access to their games REGARDLESS of their unfortunately policies of the country in which they reside.
I'm fast getting sick of their business model and on the verge of supporting the Vita in place of Nintendo.
I hope you go out of business and become a 3rd party dev.
@Peach64 Irrelevant. That was speculation on behalf of a spoke person from EA. Also, they haven't had a single good game since PS1 days. They're poopiedoodledingdongs, get over them.
@Burning_Spear It was delayed for all the wrong reasons. They decided to not go exclusive Nintendo and multi platform instead. Micro$oft however won't accept anything that is late to their system. At the time of launch they haven't yet made a PS3/360 port.
@KnightRider666 I'm a moron? I have the money to "waste" on the cartridge, manual, box, scratch and sniff cards and a acrylic case to protect it. I have a job and the finances to fund my hobby. I'm happy with my purchase and do not regret it the slightest. Have you ever thought that gaming is my biggest passion. That I love the 16 bit era (as I grew up in it) and JRPGs? Probably not. Don't think just because it will be a waste of your money that it's a waste of mine.
And no, I didn't make my initial comment because he didn't buy the cartridge such as myself and many others. I replied to him because he came off harshly and basically said that Nintendo owes it to him. He only deserves it if he is willing to pay for whatever it's going for. I don't decide the market value for collectables, but I choose to accept it and don't whine like a little school girl because it costs too much for me. Get a job and learn to spend money wisely and you won't need to act like a poor fool on the internet.
@KnightRider666 "Get a life" when I have some 34 year old man from the other side of the world having a go at me, hah. I don't care who I may offend or agitate, sir. I come here to express my opinion. You may take it or leave it. It won't be changing any time soon.
@KnightRider666 Yes there was good reasoning, marketting. They are a business and they release things when it suits their pockets best. They do NOT owe you anything apart from what they promise. Saying they owe you something makes you sound like a child.
@dragon_rider It's not overpriced if that's what the community is willing to pay. And why the hell would you touch the SRAM? You need to replace the battery that powers it. And you don't need to solder it, just tape one in. I bought it for $350, and do not regret it.
@bahooney Trust me, I understand completely what you're saying. I just didn't like his attitude and the others that attempt to demand things from developers and publishers.
I already own a complete in box copy but will buy this to show that EarthBound fans exist and ready to support them if/when they decide to translate MOTHER1 and MOTHER3.
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Re: Video: Experts Believed Nintendo Was In Trouble Back In 1990, Too
I don't think they're doomed but they have plummeted downhill. The last Nintendo console I loved was the SNES (Heck it is my favourite system of all time). GameCube had some great games too though. But N64 and Wii were meh IMO. Wii U is looking grimmer with each and every day. I have no reason to turn it on.
I don't mean any disrespect to the big N but I don't think they're anywhere near as good as their 8 and 16 bit self.
Re: Rumour: Hacker Unlocks Three New Legendary Pokémon in X & Y
@Glare And Gyarados and Charizard don't have Dragon in them. Your statement of it being 'fake' is invalid. While these have not been confirmed by Nintendo they should be treated as a rumour, not fact, but not totally dismissed as 'fake' either.
Re: Iwata: Wii Fit U's Free Trial Period Will Improve Wii U Sales Momentum
Iwata wasn't the best choice for President of Nintendo IMO... If it does sell consoles (which I doubt) they will fall back into the category that the Wii was placed in, 'casual'.
Re: Assassin's Creed IV DLC Looks Set to Sail Past Wii U
Oh well. I don't buy Nintendo systems for 3rd party. That's what my PlayStation is for.
@Jellitoe FE:A was complete at launch... in Japan. But for whatever reason they didn't treat North American and PAL gamers very well.
Re: Ubisoft Explains Wii U Watch_Dogs Visuals as "In Between" Current and Next-Gen
Looks like I'm still getting the PS4 version as I planned.
Re: Nintendo Cleared in Wii Patent Dispute With Creative Kingdoms
@Snkfiend Please ignore @yuwarite
Every post of his just makes him look an immature Nintendo fanboy.
Re: Capcom Expects A Significant Decline in Packaged Games Come 2017
@IKAY No, say "no" to digital full stop. You're just encouraging publishers to skip physical copies all together. I've refused to purchase every digital game ever. It's hard but put your money where your mouth is.
Re: Capcom Expects A Significant Decline in Packaged Games Come 2017
Not physical = no sale from me. Digital is rubbish. I rather own my game, not have a licence to run some code.
Re: Atari Founder Nolan Bushnell Claims Nintendo "Could Be On The Path To Irrelevance"
@SMT4Protag
SMT4 - Nope not in my region.
Etrian Odyessy just got released a few days ago so haven't gotten around to picking it up. Too busy with Hatsune Miku Product Diva F
Monster Hunter - Got it on my Wii U
Mario 3D - Great game, finished it 100% when I got it. But it's just amazing, it's the same thing as every other one.
Mario 7 - Didn't like it. Has nothing on the other handheld ones, Super Circuit and DS.
Luigi's Mansion 2 - Yeah pretty good
Soul Hackers - Once again not in my region
Project X Zone and KH don't interest me. I like main series KH though on PS2.
Mario and Luigi DT - Got it just haven't gotten around to playing it.
Re: Atari Founder Nolan Bushnell Claims Nintendo "Could Be On The Path To Irrelevance"
@SMT4Protag Yep. No amazing games like The World Ends With You, 3D remakes of FF3 and 4, Phoenix Wright 1-3 (I don't support digital distribution so haven't played the 3DS one), Metroid Prime, Advance Wars, Radiant Historia, Ouendan, the first time PAL regions got Chrono Trigger and other heap of A+ titles. My 3DS is a Animal Crossing and Fire Emblem machine. That's all it's good for. Most games that look like my kinda thing I can't have because they are not released in my region. And you know, region locking is such a consumer friendly thing and makes sense even more so when you put it on a handheld. As much as I love my NES, SNES and GB to DS, I want Nintendo to go software.
Re: Atari Founder Nolan Bushnell Claims Nintendo "Could Be On The Path To Irrelevance"
All I'm reading is the comments of many angry people. The man has a point. The gaming market as a whole is moving away from what it's been for the last few years very, very fast and Nintendo refuses to do anything amazing but gimmicky nonsense, now they will feel the burn. I don't want Nintendo's handhelds to go away but the 3DS is a huge step down from the mighty DS. Both for games and region locking. With that being said I'm looking forward to the day Nintendo pulls a Sega and goes software.
I love it how people think this man's opinion is invalid because of Atari. I don't think anyone here is smart nor old enough to truly understand how much good the 2600 did for the industry. Arguably without them there would be no video games in the western world. Show some respect.
Watch the insults please, your points stand just fine without them — TBD
Re: Video: There's A Fan-Made Final Fantasy VI Movie In The Works
FF6 is my favourite game of all time. But this... oh God no.
Re: Talking Point: The Wii U May Be Playing Catch-Up With Some Developers, But Money Always Talks
@Senario Sadly you're correct. I know what Nintendo will do, but it's the wrong thing to do. Reggie said Nintendo will go down before selling or developing their IPs to other companies. Sega quit when they knew they couldn't recover, Nintendo is going until they're dead.
@Relias GameCube had 3rd party support. It had heaps from Capcom and a tad from Square and Konami. 64 on the other hand had... nothing.
@Krzysztof When was Nintendo for hardcore audiences? NES and SNES. The only A+ Nintendo consoles. NES advertised as some family friendly easy-going system. But bam and hit us with some of the hardest and iconic games of all time. Wii just has crap like those horse games and what not.
Re: Video: Want To See Just How Much Better Zelda: Wind Waker Looks In HD?
I just don't see why they picked WW. It still looks fine due to the cell shading which was an excellent choice for a Zelda game. They should have redone MM in my opinion. The graphics have aged the worse.
Re: Talking Point: The Wii U May Be Playing Catch-Up With Some Developers, But Money Always Talks
@Mytoemytoe I hope that was a joke. Apple's last good bit of hardware was the Apple 2 home computer.
Re: Talking Point: The Wii U May Be Playing Catch-Up With Some Developers, But Money Always Talks
Nintendo needs to either:
1. Rethink their strategy. It's been all down hill since the N64.
2. Pull a Sega and back out of hardware.
Re: Bethesda: Wii U Is "Not On Our Radar" Right Now
Nintendo sucks for 3rd party support, what did everyone expect?
Re: Capcom: If You Want Games Like E.X. Troopers, You Need To Speak Up
Capcom has lost it. They're ruined every great franchise. Mega Man, Resident Evil and Street Fighter mainly. Let them die off.
Re: SEGA Reportedly Interested in Acquiring Atlus' Parent Company
Nah Nintendo will screw it up as usual. Let's hope Sony or SEGA pick them up.
Re: Satoru Iwata - "There Are Some Reasons Behind" Region Locking
@feline2 Absolutely not. Shipping bluray/dvd cases with a manual and disk is about 7-8 dollars. Considering games are $59 more here on average. And if the game wasn't released here if people really want it they will take on shipping fees. It will be cheaper than a game on our shores.
Re: Satoru Iwata - "There Are Some Reasons Behind" Region Locking
@feline2 My point exactly. Many niche publishers don't bring games down here. So if things were region free I can import. That's my whole point, you just summed up why we need region free systems.
Re: Satoru Iwata - "There Are Some Reasons Behind" Region Locking
@feline2 Now let me bring you back to reality. I live in Australia where the Recommended Retail price (RRP) is $119 for console games, and $69 for handheld. Consoles are also very expensive, the PS3 was $999 (lucky its region free though). On top of being screwed over from pricing we get a very limited selection. Our Nintendo systems have far less third party titles than the NTSC-U/C audience. We get no Atlus titles with some very few exceptions for instance. When we get something that can be considered slightly niche it will be in our retail stores for about a month then you will never see it again.
There isn't 1 advantage for the consumer when it comes to region locking. Not, ONE.
Re: Satoru Iwata - "There Are Some Reasons Behind" Region Locking
@feline2 Are you trolling? I can't tell if you're seriously brainwashed by corporal nonsense or are smart enough to tell that there isn't a single benefit from region locking and it's all anti consumer.
Re: Pachter: Nintendo Has Lost Its "Mojo"
Let's be honest. Nintendo was the top dog with the NES and SNES. Sega and others couldn't compete. Nintendo had A+ first and third titles pouring out left, right and centre.
Then the N64 hit and Nintendo did everything they could to drive away 3rd party developers. Using non-standardized media formats, N64 cart, mini DVD and a Wii U disk. Wacky controllers which won't work with most games not made by Nintendo. Poor online support and sub-par system specs. Compare Nintendo to every generation Sony has been in; Sony trumped Nintendo every round for good reason. Sony used standard media formats; CD-Rs, DVDs and Bluray. A traditional control. PSN. And competitive system specs.
Nintendo is doomed and I'm glad. I've supported from the NES days and since the N64 they found more and more ways to screw up. They should do what Sega did and pull out of the hardware business and become a 3rd party dev.
Re: Video: This Shin Megami Tensei IV Limited Edition Set is a Thing of Beauty
Please come to EU.
Re: Satoru Iwata - "There Are Some Reasons Behind" Region Locking
This is absolute rubbish. If they want to limit the sales to certain countries due to cencorship they can, and legally by not officially publishing or giving out licences to publishers to distribute to certain countries. BUT that is the whole point of region freeing, to give people access to their games REGARDLESS of their unfortunately policies of the country in which they reside.
I'm fast getting sick of their business model and on the verge of supporting the Vita in place of Nintendo.
I hope you go out of business and become a 3rd party dev.
Re: Review: Super Mario World (Wii U eShop / Super Nintendo)
@undead_terror You should get the GBA game then. I think it's called SMB Advance 4 from memory.
Re: Resident Evil: Revelations Wii U Demo Scares Its Way Across Europe
@GamerJunkie Are you serious? RE6 is a complete joke. RE:R is amazing. -_-
Re: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Dual Destinies Confirmed For This Fall in the West
I was really looking forward to this but I only support physical copies.
So nope, I'll happily keep my money.
Re: DICE Tested Its Frostbite Engine On Wii U, Wasn't Enamoured With The Results
@Peach64 Irrelevant. That was speculation on behalf of a spoke person from EA. Also, they haven't had a single good game since PS1 days. They're poopiedoodledingdongs, get over them.
Re: DICE Tested Its Frostbite Engine On Wii U, Wasn't Enamoured With The Results
@Jaz007 Please tell me who won the reward of worst company for 2 years in a row again, I forgot.
Here's a little hint:
http://au.businessinsider.com/ea-voted-worst-company-in-america-2013-4
Re: Mutant Mudds Developer Muses on Wii U Design
@jpfan1989 Sorry no, it's only a mock up from someone at Zeldainformer or some other site.
Re: Satoru Iwata: Nintendo Has No Plans To Adopt Cloud Gaming
I see nothing offered by cloud storage except problems, so meh.
Re: Rumour: GTA V Has Been Tested On Wii U Dev Kits For Some Time
I will get it on Wii U if it's out on it. If not PS4 if it makes that. My last option would be PS3.
Re: Mutant Mudds Developer Muses on Wii U Design
Re: Video: Ace Attorney 5 Trailer Shows Its Own Brand of Wacky Courtroom Drama
Day 1 purchase. Love the DS games.
Re: Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers Arrives in Europe This Fall
I contacted their support and they said Australian retailers will have physical copies.
Score.
Re: Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers Arrives in Europe This Fall
I love you NIS.
Re: Rayman Legends Release Brought Forward to 3rd September in North America, 30th August in Europe
@Burning_Spear It was delayed for all the wrong reasons. They decided to not go exclusive Nintendo and multi platform instead. Micro$oft however won't accept anything that is late to their system. At the time of launch they haven't yet made a PS3/360 port.
Re: EarthBound Delay May Not Have Been Caused By Music Licensing Issues After All
@BennyFresh Of course not. I just didn't like his manners, he came off as childish. That's what I've been trying to get across.
Re: Event: Nintendo UK 3DS Showcase
I'm happy 3DS is really picking up.
Now just do the same with the Wii U. Please Nintendo. :
Re: EarthBound Delay May Not Have Been Caused By Music Licensing Issues After All
@KnightRider666 I'm a moron? I have the money to "waste" on the cartridge, manual, box, scratch and sniff cards and a acrylic case to protect it. I have a job and the finances to fund my hobby. I'm happy with my purchase and do not regret it the slightest. Have you ever thought that gaming is my biggest passion. That I love the 16 bit era (as I grew up in it) and JRPGs? Probably not. Don't think just because it will be a waste of your money that it's a waste of mine.
And no, I didn't make my initial comment because he didn't buy the cartridge such as myself and many others. I replied to him because he came off harshly and basically said that Nintendo owes it to him. He only deserves it if he is willing to pay for whatever it's going for. I don't decide the market value for collectables, but I choose to accept it and don't whine like a little school girl because it costs too much for me. Get a job and learn to spend money wisely and you won't need to act like a poor fool on the internet.
Re: EarthBound Delay May Not Have Been Caused By Music Licensing Issues After All
@KnightRider666 "Get a life" when I have some 34 year old man from the other side of the world having a go at me, hah. I don't care who I may offend or agitate, sir. I come here to express my opinion. You may take it or leave it. It won't be changing any time soon.
Re: EarthBound Delay May Not Have Been Caused By Music Licensing Issues After All
@KnightRider666 Yes there was good reasoning, marketting. They are a business and they release things when it suits their pockets best. They do NOT owe you anything apart from what they promise. Saying they owe you something makes you sound like a child.
Re: EarthBound Delay May Not Have Been Caused By Music Licensing Issues After All
@dragon_rider It's not overpriced if that's what the community is willing to pay. And why the hell would you touch the SRAM? You need to replace the battery that powers it. And you don't need to solder it, just tape one in. I bought it for $350, and do not regret it.
Re: EarthBound Delay May Not Have Been Caused By Music Licensing Issues After All
@BennyFresh I paid $350AUD for a complete in box copy. Don't see me complaining.
Re: EarthBound Delay May Not Have Been Caused By Music Licensing Issues After All
@bahooney Trust me, I understand completely what you're saying. I just didn't like his attitude and the others that attempt to demand things from developers and publishers.
Re: EarthBound Delay May Not Have Been Caused By Music Licensing Issues After All
@MikeDanger And there was no reason for you to wait when you could have got the SNES cart. You make it sound like they owe you it.
Re: Shigesato Itoi Thanks EarthBound Fans For Their Support
I already own a complete in box copy but will buy this to show that EarthBound fans exist and ready to support them if/when they decide to translate MOTHER1 and MOTHER3.
Re: Talking Point: Fire Emblem: Awakening - The Big Casual Mode Debate
Classic.